LA Angels Tuesday News Crash: Q Is Gone!

The Giants claimed Josέ Quintana off waivers.  That’s right folks. Q is gone!

In case you missed it, Aaron Slegers was outrighted to the minors on Saturday but elected free agency.

A lot of people are getting dumped now in various ways.  Rick Eckstein was fired from his job as Pirates hitting coach.  

The Mets released right hander Zack Godley, who is now a free agent.  They also released Josh Reddick

Meanwhile, the Phillies released right hander Chase Anderson.

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Wilson Ramos tore his ACL and will have season ending surgery on his left knee. 

The Michigan team won the Little League World Series

Sleaze Bag Of The Day

Ex-Major Leaguer Juan Encarnacion Is in jail in the Dominican Republic for sexually assaulting his daughter. 

Trevor Bauer’s administrative leave was extended to September 3, 2021.  He is still under investigation by both Major League Baseball and the Pasadena Police Department.

Job posting:  Major League Baseball Full Stack Software Engineer (Baseball Data)

Photo credit: Rex Fregosi. (This is from the ACL and was taken on August 24 if memory serves me correctly).

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Eric_in_Portland
Legend
11 months ago

just reading about Bauer.

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/32119416/will-trevor-bauer-ever-pitch-again-next-los-angeles-dodgers-mlb

I think he should do some cutesy videos asking fans of different teams which city he should be tried in.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Super Member
11 months ago

Yes!

Jim Atkins
Super Member
11 months ago

Slegers signed a two year minor league contract with the Rays today. Maybe they can fix him.

Twebur
Super Member
11 months ago
Reply to  Jim Atkins

I bet when agents call TB Devil Rays front office…the hold music is Fix You by Coldplay…. on a continuous loop.

If they fix him this year? Wise will have some explaining to do.

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Super Member
11 months ago
Reply to  Jim Atkins

Of course they will fix him. Then they will trade him for a couple of useful prospects. This is the way.

Eric_in_Portland
Legend
11 months ago

can someone explain this to me?

“The Reds acquired outfielder Delino DeShields from the Red Sox for cash considerations on Tuesday and assigned him to Triple-A Louisville.”

If the hard dealine is the end of July how is this possible?

Cowboy26
Legend
11 months ago
Reply to  Charles Sutton

It may also have to do with allowing the trading of players that are not on the trading teams 40 man roster.

Eric_in_Portland
Legend
11 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

thanks to both of you!

h27kim
Trusted Member
11 months ago

You know, Quintana with the White Sox was thought to be a young up and comer who was mentioned in the same breath as Chris Sale (and cost the Cubs enough to ransom a couple of emperors to acquire).

With the Cubs, Quintana was just OK, trending towards mediocre or worse at times.

Now, with the Angels, he was strictly mediocre or worse (in fact, usually worse than mediocre.). A cautionary tale about projecting future performance of young pitchers, even after a few good seasons. Will Giants discover something magical? I’ll be surprised if they do: they just need bodies ftm. Still, l’m often surprised, fwiw

Last edited 11 months ago by h27kim
2pints
Trusted Member
11 months ago

That was a great game to be at last night. Yankees fans tears are still the most tasty. I was pretty worried those first few innings since the halos had no hits and the yanks fans were loud as hell. But man that grand slam was sweet to watch as it shut them all up immediately. Good to see this team fight a bit.

The season as a whole is trash but games like last night are why I’m still interested. We may lose the war, but some battles are crazy fun.

Last edited 11 months ago by 2pints
tommyshalo
Trusted Member
11 months ago

Ohtani and Mayfield are tied for the team lead with nine home runs since the All-Star break.

As I am an advocate for non-expensive SSs, I am starting to like this current experiment with Mayfield at SS.
Please keep SS low budget and allocate funds for PITCHING!!!

MarineLayer
Super Member
11 months ago
Reply to  tommyshalo

I like the idea of keeping Mayfield at 3B and moving Rendon’s contract for some more pitching, or help at SS.

matthiasstephan
Super Member
11 months ago
Reply to  MarineLayer

You want the guy with a career OPS of .600 over the guy with the career OPS of .850 at roughly the same ages?

(the idea of ‘moving’ Rendon’s contract, even if one thought he was a Pujols drain on the lineup, is also farcical).

MarineLayer
Super Member
11 months ago

Yes. It’s the $240,000,00 I’m interested in recovering. Do you think Rendon is .850 from here? Does it hurt to shop it and see if there are any takers. There may be someone out there who thinks this season is a fluke and willing to take a chance on this player’s past performance prior to his Angels tenure. I’m not expecting 100%. I think it would be great to replace Rendon with someone with a much lower salary.

Cowboy26
Legend
11 months ago
Reply to  MarineLayer

I do* but also know no one else will want that contract while also negotiating a waiver of his NTC AND attaching significant prospect capital. Get over it and embrace the Rendon. He’ll be fine . Remember how the hip impingement surgery benefitted Max Stassi’s offense. With Rendon’s better talents and a clean bill of health I expect great things from him next year and the years to come.

*Note: that was not an acceptance of marriage since we’ve barely dated

El_Duderino
Trusted Member
11 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

> Remember how the hip impingement surgery benefitted Max Stassi’s offense

That’s a positive thought I hadn’t even considered.

MarineLayer
Super Member
11 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Like I have a choice. I’m so over the Arte overpay and Rendon is just the latest version of that. Plus, I hate the excuse we can’t sign anybody significant because of the cap and we keep going to the well on the Jose Quintana’s of the world. Other than that, I’m totally good with Rendon. FYI, I can pretty much tell how things will go midway through the first date.

H.T. Ennis
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11 months ago
Reply to  MarineLayer

Yes I think Rendon is .850 from here, lol. I’ll put $100 on it, name your terms

Twebur
Super Member
11 months ago
Reply to  H.T. Ennis

Assuming he heels and the Angels didn’t Botch his hip surgery….
taking bets that by the end of next April all of the “Negative Redon Rage” is gone, a distant memory. He will be close to his old self.

Over/Under April 30, 2022.
Even money.

Also will post future odds on who will be the next CTPG
“Whipping Boy”….we need a whipping boy here.
Early favorite? An unknown signed free agent pitcher. Or one of the holdovers from this year.

Cowboy26
Legend
11 months ago
Reply to  Twebur

Fletcher?

AKA_rmhalofan
Member
11 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Trout’s calf muscle.

Jim Atkins
Super Member
11 months ago
Reply to  Twebur

Guessing we will have a new Most reviled, direct from the MLB dumpster dive.

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Super Member
11 months ago
Reply to  Twebur

2022: Upton
2023: Walsh
2025: Sandoval
2026 – 2028: Trout

Cowboy26
Legend
11 months ago

So 2024 we win the pennant?

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Super Member
11 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Yes – its all unicorns, rainbows, s’mores and seldom is heard a discouraging word on CTPG

Fansince1971
Legend
11 months ago
Reply to  MarineLayer

That would be something between zero and no chance at his current salary commitment.

If Angels were willing to absorb 50% of the monies owed then maybe. But if you’re going to do that – why not see if he gets right when healthy?

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Super Member
11 months ago
Reply to  MarineLayer

You really want to get depressed – think about Trout being hobbled by the alleged “muscle pull” for multiple seasons….

Cowboy26
Legend
11 months ago

So lets bite the bullet cut it off now so he can grow a new one for 2023

Cowboy26
Legend
11 months ago
Reply to  MarineLayer

I like neither option as Mayfield as a starter. Keep the captain as a backup for all 4 infield positions. He’s a low OBP guy even with his new found power surge. He’s not eligible for arbitration until at least 2023 and will have at least 1 option left for 2022.

The only starter that needs to be moved is Upton Funk. I really don’t care if he has a NTC and an immovable contract. DFA his ass and let’s get on with it. We have competent backups in case the kids struggle in Gosselin and Lagares and sooner or later the GOAT will get over his Cooties and get back to normal (in right field of course)

MarineLayer
Super Member
11 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

We’ve only got one year left on Upton’s contract. Far more palatable than the other one, but yes, I’d love to move him too.

Fansince1971
Legend
11 months ago
Reply to  MarineLayer

Hahaha. Good luck with that.

I’ve got an old beat up truck for $300,000 if you’d like it.

Twebur
Super Member
11 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

this ^

Laying a bet with Alex’s new book…$10,000 Upton is moved before opening day next year, eating most of his contract. Keep Gold Glove and Goose if they will stay……Goose might be in line for a lot of AB’s at first with Walsh difficulty with Lefties. Goose hits lefties, defense is tolerable.

The “Salt Lake Express” next year will be full of utility players in those seats and not pitchers.. Mayfield, The Plumber, Rojas, Ward if he’s around. Ride the hot hand, it will work itself out. Maybe even a platoon at SS if we don’t sign one.

rosstrade
Trusted Member
11 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Absolutely agree….. Lagares is proving he is a much better option than J-Up. And, the Goose can play OF as well.

J-Up has also been prone to long stretches of injury the last 2 seasons.

It’s time to move on

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Super Member
11 months ago
Reply to  MarineLayer

I still want more transparency. What did Rendon do to you? We need to get you a box of crayons or something so we can get to the bottom of what Montoya has done… or is it that you have six fingers on your right hand?

There are some facts you just have to live with in life. Rendon isn’t going anywhere any time soon, Dodge is never bringing the Stratus back, etc. I mean, your Rendon Derangement Syndrome is to a point where you’d rather have Jack F***ing Mayfield?

2002heaven
Trusted Member
11 months ago

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Anymore of those expensive long term deals that do way more harm than good from the owner or Perry’s predecessor in J-Up’s case? Hope not! 😭  😭 

Cowboy26
Legend
11 months ago
Reply to  2002heaven

Hey 2002 why are you posting your family photos here now?

H.T. Ennis
Admin
Super Member
11 months ago
Reply to  MarineLayer

Rendon is not getting moved.

Fansince1971
Legend
11 months ago
Reply to  H.T. Ennis

No way, no how. And neither is Upton.

Twebur
Super Member
11 months ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

Odds on Upton being moved….he will…you’re on for a $1.00?

It’s what they do. Arte is ok with it, it will happen….unless they trade one of the “OUTFIELD TWINS”……Then he might stay.

Fansince1971
Legend
11 months ago
Reply to  Twebur

Are you saying someone will take him and his salary off the Angels’ hands or that Angels will trade him and pay most of the salary?

Last edited 11 months ago by Fansince1971
Cowboy26
Legend
11 months ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

Yes That team called the Waivers from D.F.A. land

Twebur
Super Member
11 months ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

Eat some of it or all of it…

Jeff Joiner
Editor
Super Member
11 months ago
Reply to  Twebur

For Upton we will eat all of it. Justin’s defense is atrocious and his bat is below average. He’s below replacement value.

Justin is likely to join the legions of Gary Matthews Jr. and Vernon Wells and collect his final pay checks from the comfort of his home.

2002heaven
Trusted Member
11 months ago
Reply to  Twebur

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I can help you get rid of Justin Upton. 💪 
https://youtu.be/TkK59DL52zk

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Mia
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Mia
11 months ago
Reply to  MarineLayer

This coming from the dude that called Perry an “idiot GM” last night in the GT.

Nice to see the ideas *can* get worse!

RexFregosi
Trusted Member
11 months ago
Reply to  MarineLayer

don’t mistake Rendon for Gaetti or Hobson

Jeff Joiner
Editor
Super Member
11 months ago
Reply to  tommyshalo

I like the idea of role players being able to step up and help when needed. I also like the idea of depth.

My goal would be to keep Mayfield in the utility role and fill SS with an actual MLB caliber player. That way when inevitable injuries and off days occur, we have an MLB caliber guy in Mayfield ready.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Super Member
11 months ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

Chef’s kiss. This is something I am so stoked on. If they get a decent back up catcher having a bench of that fella and various optionables like Mayfield, Adell and Marsh plus The Goose, Lugares and what ever we have left of Ward/Thaiss in March? It sucks that we had to basically start those guys almost all year, but as bench depth, we have hardly ever had guys this solid to hold down a spot for 10 games before. It’s great…. just don’t get stuck starting 3 of them a game for months.

RexFregosi
Trusted Member
11 months ago
Reply to  tommyshalo

Speaking of our future at SS, hey that’s Arol Vera in today’s photo.

Last edited 11 months ago by RexFregosi
Eric_in_Portland
Legend
11 months ago

excellent video of Ohtani getting screwed by the umps

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcrviN7Tscg

Fansince1971
Legend
11 months ago

Send this to the league offices!

Fleckstein
Trusted Member
11 months ago

In 20th century Japanese baseball this was the treatment for the best players, particularly ones aiming to break records. I don’t watch enough NPB to know if that is still how umps work today.

JackFrost
Super Member
11 months ago

That was the infamous Mariners series right before the All-Star break, I believe.

The umps really targeted us that series… Some of the worst ball/strike calls (if you can call them that) that we’ve seen all season.

Twebur
Super Member
11 months ago

ACL pitching 
Mason Albright, 2021 Round:12, 18 year old out of High School, first start at ACL 
2 innings, 2 hits 0 runs, 1 walk 0 K’s

Mason Erla, 2021 Round:17, first 2 appearances, 5 innings, 2 hits, 0 runs, 9 K’s 0 walks
Whip .040

Nick Jones, 2021 Round:8, 5 appearances, 5 hits, 1 run, 1 walk, 12 K’s, 0.75 whip
hitting .172 against him…..6’6 lefty.

Eric_in_Portland
Legend
11 months ago
Reply to  Twebur

thanks. This is great info.

Cowboy26
Legend
11 months ago
Reply to  Twebur

One of the 2021 draft alum that maybe hasn’t been talked about enough is Nate Murphy, the former Vandy closer. He last pitched on Saturday recording his second save in 3 scoreless outings. Considering the unprecedented nature of the Angels last draft where they took all pitchers and many of those strictly as relief pitchers instead of first trying to convert them as starters guys like Murphy may shoot the organization very fast. Some of these guys may see debuts in Anaheim by late next year.

rosstrade
Trusted Member
11 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Good to know. I’ll check up on him.

Jeff Joiner
Editor
Super Member
11 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

he’s a guy I think will help at some point next year. They won’t waste 3 years trying to make him a starter. he’s a reliever, he’ll get promoted quickly.

Based on pitching in the SEC he’s already been facing High A to AA level competition.

rosstrade
Trusted Member
11 months ago
Reply to  Twebur

Really like this Albright kid. What a great signing….!

RexFregosi
Trusted Member
11 months ago
Reply to  Twebur

Speaking of ACL….

Today’s photo – from L to R:

Vera, Blakely, Ramirez, Calabrese

Rahul Setty
Admin
Trusted Member
11 months ago

Glad Quintana is gone and we can watch Joe Pitcher give up grand slams instead. Lovely!

Jessica DeLine
Admin
Super Member
11 months ago
Reply to  Rahul Setty

Fun!

Cowboy26
Legend
11 months ago

First it was Claudio, Then Sluggo and now The Q. Come on Perry don’t stop there. Ted Bundy is on the IL so lets make it season ending. Also The nightmare of Gene Autry Way the Gas Can and the cheese Shit ( not necessarily in that order) should also be shown the door once the COVID finishes running through Anaheim

Assuming Cobb & Detmers return is imminent, with the development of the A & W brothers, Jose Marte & some extended looks at Elvis & Sam Selman and maybe a late season call up for youngster Oliver Ortega lets make the rest of the season productive towards some 2022 success

Last edited 11 months ago by Cowboy26
rosstrade
Trusted Member
11 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Spot on….. Time to open the floodgates and see who is hungry and who may be ready for 2021.

Giving more mound time to Bundy, Junior, Hoyt, Petricka, doesn’t help the cause.

Jeff Joiner
Editor
Super Member
11 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Perry needs to consider options, service time, etc for years beyond this one. We don’t need to start those processes too soon.

Cowboy26
Legend
11 months ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

In the case of the A & W twins, Jose Marte-party & Selllowman they’re already on the 40 man as well as the 26 man rosters. So not sure that will start any clocks early since options will still remain. the 2021 draft picks should definitely not be elevated to the 40 man anytime this year or early next year.

Fansince1971
Legend
11 months ago

A win this evening and Shufflebot will come out to play!!

WallyChuckChili
Super Member
11 months ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

CHP

Can He Pitch?

Cowboy26
Legend
11 months ago

How do you know its a he?

matthiasstephan
Super Member
11 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Can they pitch?

steelgolf
Super Member
11 months ago

7 pitchers to get through a 9 inning game, and Guerra tried his best to gift the Yankees a win. Yankee tears and memories of crappy 80s teams that would somehow always have The Yankees number and present them with losses.

GrandpaBaseball
Super Member
11 months ago

Scary (Meyers) got tagged for runs, Q2 got tagged, Seashells was hit hard and Guerra got nailed in a Bullpen start to finish and we won. But how did we go from having a fine starting staff to not having but one Shohei and he won’t even start today?

Heaney……….Released
“Q”…………….Released
Detmers……..Salt Lake City
Canning……..Injured by way of Salt Lake City
Bundy…………Lost his fastball and his way
Barria…………Maybe he is not a major league starter
Cobb………….Injured
Ohtani………..Burned out and also dinged (Wrist)

Every Year since I can remember for 15 years we run out of starters. We have signed already washed up guys, traded for young and cost controlled too. We have signed expensive Guys (Wilson) and we’ve had some of our own work out, but we just can’t seem to make the Key work the lock.

And then there is the October Bullpen (They are flat out spooky). We have Scary, Cisshit (Or Seashells), Pet Trick (or Treat), Guerra, and more matter who we get to pitch there they fail. Sure I’ve missed a few but we all get the picture with the tune for the Addames Family playing in the background. How have we won so many games with all the injuries, ouch, pinched my finger, is there a Dr. in the house? Has to make a house call at the Big A you say, well I’ll need 2 or 3 months to recover then.

bigviz
Member
11 months ago

Don’t forget Bundy also lost his lunch

matthiasstephan
Super Member
11 months ago

Didn’t San Diego trade/deal for every possible starter that didn’t get bought by the Dodgers? How is that working out?

AnAngelsFan
Trusted Member
11 months ago

I wonder what the Dodgers will do when the Pasadena police department decides not to press charges. Will they let him pitch again or release him and pay his contract anyway? If the latter, I wonder what team will pick him up and how long they’ll wait to do it. The Astros have no shame, they might take him next spring.

I say when because it seems unlikely a DA will recommend pursuing charges when a judge, applying a lower burden of proof (preponderance of evidence) than criminal charges (beyond a reasonable doubt), found that Bauer respected the boundaries set in the sexual encounters.

MarineLayer
Super Member
11 months ago
Reply to  AnAngelsFan

It’s just wrong the way this has been handled. At the least, give the guy a trial and let a jury decide. I’m sure that’s what would’ve happened to a non-celebrity.

H.T. Ennis
Admin
Super Member
11 months ago
Reply to  AnAngelsFan

found that Bauer respected the boundaries set in the sexual encounters.”

I don’t believe that was at all the conclusion reached? Sorry if I missed something, but please inform me if I did.

AnAngelsFan
Trusted Member
11 months ago
Reply to  H.T. Ennis

Apparently the judge stated that in open court. See https://www.latimes.com/sports/dodgers/story/2021-08-19/trevor-bauer-restraining-order-denied-dodgers

I was surprised, because I had assumed the denial of the restraining order would be based solely on lack of evidence that Bauer is a threat of future harm.

H.T. Ennis
Admin
Super Member
11 months ago
Reply to  AnAngelsFan

bleh, okay

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Super Member
11 months ago
Reply to  AnAngelsFan

It gauls me to say it cause I have never liked the guy and I sure don’t like the situation, but I’ve done my best to read about the laws Bauer is being investigated for breaking and unless there’s a ton of other stuff to incriminate him I just don’t see him being guilty of much more than being a huge creep.

Not to get too graphic, but a lot of the consent issues get blunted a lot if the lady agreed to being choked out…. knowing that part of the act would be possible loss of consciousness. Then knowing that other bad stuff was on the table and agreeing to that. She wasn’t impaired when she agreed to this stuff and drove two hours to have it done to her. Also, remaining in contact with Bauer and going back again is questionable…. it’s yuck, but I don’t want to start bending the law to convict a guy just because he disgusts me.

Maybe I’m missing something, I know there are some actual legal professionals around here who may know better.

GrandpaBaseball
Super Member
11 months ago

Rick Eckstein should be hired here in our organization as we certainly are weak in hitting up and down our teams. Sorry Arte that it will cost some money.

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Super Member
11 months ago

Does anyone know why he was fired?

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Super Member
11 months ago

Because he sucks. I think gramps just likes the last name. Most of the Pirates line up has sucked under Fletcher 1.0’s brother. But I bet the Pirates were very intense and gritty while they sucked ass at hitting baseballs.

The official word was that he was fired because of a difference in “vision moving forward”. As in, he wanted to keep working, they wanted him to stop.

BushLeague
Member
11 months ago

Is Upton hurt or has he been relegated? I don’t think I’ve seen him play in at least a week.

GrandpaBaseball
Super Member
11 months ago
Reply to  BushLeague

Hurt, probably has a grade 2 hurt feelings.

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Super Member
11 months ago

So his feelings are torn.

matthiasstephan
Super Member
11 months ago

It is a relatively new version of TJS

Cowboy26
Legend
11 months ago

Think of it as Tommy John Surgery for the soul.

John Henry Weitzel
Editor
Super Member
11 months ago

Ah Q, we had… hopes for you. I actually had an image ready for a postgame but then he never did end up being good enough to be worthy of it.
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DaveChalk
Trusted Member
11 months ago

He had me at I don’t have to see Slegers or Quintana again this year!

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Super Member
11 months ago

I’m shocked. Completely shocked.

https://www.ocregister.com/2021/08/30/angels-mike-trout-is-still-sore-stalling-rehab-again/

The Los Angeles Angels are reconsidering whether to shut Mike Trout down for the remainder of the 2021 MLB season.

Manager Joe Maddon said the star center fielder is approaching a point at which the team will have to make a decision, per MLB.com’s Rhett Bollinger:

“He had another good day working out and we were optimistic but he came back sore. So we keep going back to that. It’s a possibility [he’ll get shut down]. And probably getting closer to having to say something like that. But he still wants to continue the fight and we’re going to honor his wishes. However Mike sees this, we’re going to go that way.”

Earlier this month, general manager Perry Minasian ruled out the idea of ending Trout’s season early.

A Grade 2 right calf strain has cost Trout most of this year, initially sidelining him May 17. This is already his worst injury.

Injuries have pestered Trout recently. He had missed at least 20 games in three of the four seasons entering 2021. It’s the only thing that has slowed him down since he entered the league.

ihearhowie3.0
Super Member
11 months ago

This entered Rendon territory where it’s becoming increasingly possible that something else is wrong that will require surgery.

The Angels need to completely overhaul their medical/training staff. The fact Rendon had to get his issue diagnosed personally was a bit concerning.

Rahul Setty
Admin
Trusted Member
11 months ago
Reply to  ihearhowie3.0

Enough things have happened over the last half decade where we’ve gone from coincidental to systemic pretty quickly! Them lying about these injuries doesn’t help either.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Super Member
11 months ago
Reply to  ihearhowie3.0

They need to put the entire Angels medical and training staff in an escape room where they don’t get any food or water and will eventually run out of air if they don’t figure out a problem together.

Then they need to go out back and dig a big hole.

MarineLayer
Super Member
11 months ago

I wonder if he will be dogged by injuries the rest of his career. I hope not.