Angels offense comes to life, ends losing streak against Padres

Angels 10, Padres 2

UFC star Francis Ngannou visited Angel Stadium Saturday afternoon. But in the game that followed, it was indeed the Angels offense that did the heavy hitting, carrying the team for what seems like the first time in forever.

The Angels had a Major League starter on the mound Saturday in José Suarez, but it did not seem to matter. Suarez didn’t get out of the fourth inning, and although Joe Maddon seemed to have a relatively quick hook, at this level, the starter cannot be putting the manager in situations like that. Lately, the starting pitching has been absolutely atrocious.

But it didn’t matter tonight, for once. The Angels scored in five straight innings, putting up a ten-spot as they ran rampant over the dregs of the Padres pen.

First, Jared Walsh and Jack Mayfield bopped homers.

Walsh would also crack a run-scoring double and single to cap off his impressive three-hit, 3 RBI night. Shohei Ohtani stole his 20th base, giving him a 40-20 season, and Jack Mayfield, David Fletcher, and Brandon Marsh (!!) also added multi-hit games in addition to Walsh.

Jo Adell threw a guy out.

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Eric_in_Portland
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27 days ago

and in a related story, Tampa Bay just swept Baltimore so the O’s have now lost 22 of their last 24.

WallyChuckChili
Super Member
27 days ago

Who gave them 2 wins?

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Super Member

Andrew

Twebur
Super Member
27 days ago

Lot of rushed throws, lots of infield hits, have fun trying to double him up.
https://twitter.com/TaylorBlakeWard/status/1432109623469694976?s=20

Last edited 27 days ago by Twebur
Cowboy26
Super Member
27 days ago
Reply to  Twebur

Is that fast?

Eric_in_Portland
Super Member
27 days ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Jaguars can run 50 mph. So if Jo can run just about twice as fast as that then yeah, that’s really fast!

Twebur
Super Member
27 days ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

I think it’s the equivalent to 99 MPH! Ha!

Adell, Sho, Trout, Marsh and Goose…….should create more runs.
If it doesn’t, give them a Baton and let them be a relay team.

Last edited 27 days ago by Twebur
Cowboy26
Super Member
27 days ago
Reply to  Twebur

Unfortunately someone would probably drop the baton.

trAdition

WallyChuckChili
Super Member
27 days ago
Reply to  Twebur

The big question is how many Stolen Bases does he have with that speed?

Twebur
Super Member
27 days ago

It is an art form…..you’d think it will come with time.

But the speed from first to home is F’ing amazing.

Twebur
Super Member
27 days ago

Ky Bush was treated rudely tonight for Tri-City…2.2 innings, 5 hits, 5 earned. 48/32 pitch count.

Mia
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Mia
27 days ago
angelslogic
Super Member
27 days ago
Reply to  Mia

Noooooooooooooooooooooooo!!! Alex is as much a part of the Angels as the players themselves. I will truly miss her. 🙁

Last edited 27 days ago by angelslogic
Cowboy26
Super Member
27 days ago
Reply to  angelslogic

Was always impressed how she was able to sidestep & avoid all those POTG gatorade dunks. Although I would’ve much rather had some wet T shirt collateral damage.

WallyChuckChili
Super Member
27 days ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

I was impressed in how fast her face grew back after being burnt off in that Weaver gif

Angels2020Champs
Super Member
27 days ago
Reply to  Mia

Contract just came up? Always seems off during the season but then again business as usual.

Mia
Super Member
Mia
27 days ago

She got a new host gig on FS1. Moving on up…

Twebur
Super Member
27 days ago
Reply to  Mia

Might be getting a call up to the major leagues.
She could be looking at a larger network gig. She has filled in on a few National shows this year.

Cowboy26
Super Member
27 days ago
Reply to  Twebur

Lets hope this is a promotion for her.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Super Member
Reply to  Mia

OK. Time to find a new team.

Twebur
Super Member
27 days ago

I’m sure 2002 will post pictures of her when she makes the big time….
Point out how Arte wouldn’t pay her, the one that got away, talk about how well she is doing on her national show, post a picture of her agent too.

FungoAle
Super Member
27 days ago
Reply to  Mia

That is too bad .The fact she has not been around too much there last couple of years, soften the blow. I liked her on Angel Weekly.

She is leaving for FS1 to play second fiddle to the sports talk show hosts? Such a meh job. Hope it was not something the Angels initiated.

rosstrade
Member
27 days ago

Damn, who is pitching tonight….?

Two hours from game time, Joe’s got to know.

It’s got to be Kyle Tyler? Right? Who else could it be?

Cowboy26
Super Member
27 days ago
Reply to  rosstrade

Here’s a picture I got of tonight’s starter from 2002:

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Last edited 27 days ago by Cowboy26
Senator_John_Blutarsky
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Reply to  Cowboy26

Crap. How can Joe keep batting ‘ ‘ in leadoff? Idiot.

Last edited 27 days ago by Senator_John_Blutarsky
MikeSalmon
Trusted Member
27 days ago

That throw from Adell from right to nail Myers at 3rd was why I still watch baseball.
I’m olde. I’ve seen a 30,000 homers. THAT’s one of the plays that can still take my breath away.

Effing awesome.

rosstrade
Member
27 days ago
Reply to  MikeSalmon

Adell’s throw a thing of beauty @ over 91 MPH.

Reminds me of Vladdy;s and Ichiro’s frozen rope throws from right to third to nail a runner.

The kids are starting to grow on me.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  MikeSalmon

Yeah. It looked great. The thing is I’ve been told his arms not that good, so no, it must not have been a very good throw.

2002heaven
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28 days ago

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We should get these two guys and make the PO’s in 2022!!! 💪  💪 
Marcus Semien at SS, Avasail Garcia in RF and GOAT in CF and Bubba in LF
Garcia has a cannon ( of course he’s big dude and fast for his size ).

Fansince1971
Super Member
28 days ago
Reply to  2002heaven

So basically get rid of Marsh and Adell?

Eric_in_Portland
Super Member
28 days ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

in the above scenario we keep Adell and get rid of Marsh and also pay a bunch of money that would have gone to pitching.

2002heaven
Trusted Member
27 days ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

Nope keep Marsh in LF and trade Adell.
These two guys will cost the same as one Trout, Pujols or Rendon.
Forget about hoping the owner will pay for pitching because he won’t…….y’all know it and I know it. Hopefully we can get a good BP arm for Adell and maybe Reid Detmers will break out next year.

2pints
Trusted Member
27 days ago
Reply to  2002heaven

So the guy who never stops shitting on the Halos’ talent evaluators is stating that according to his talent evaluations, the Halos should be able to hopefully get a good BP for Adell? How funny

Eric_in_Portland
Super Member
27 days ago
Reply to  2002heaven

you need to get Bubba and Gump clear in your mind. Bubba is Adell. Gump is Marsh.

Twebur
Super Member
27 days ago

Again, who’s Lt. Dan? Trout?

Cowboy26
Super Member
27 days ago
Reply to  Twebur

After his Calf is amputated?

Twebur
Super Member
27 days ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Remember the piss poor medical staff on the Angels….
Amputate the wrong calf by mistake and then amputate the one that is necessary……then he becomes Lt. Dan.

Cowboy26
Super Member
28 days ago
Reply to  2002heaven

Waste of money. I want infielders who can play defense and outfielders that aren’t prone to offensive regression

Cowboy26
Super Member
28 days ago
Reply to  H.T. Ennis

Maybe at second base. We already got a pretty good one.

Cowboy26
Super Member
27 days ago
Reply to  H.T. Ennis

go look at his 2019 & 2020 numbers. i think we need to expect better.

Cowboy26
Super Member
27 days ago
Reply to  H.T. Ennis

The same metric that generated a 3.8 dWar for Javy Baez in 2019 ? Yeah I guess so.

Cowboy26
Super Member
27 days ago
Reply to  H.T. Ennis

I have no idea whats mainstream anymore.

2002heaven
Trusted Member
27 days ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Yeah and I’d like the whole AL All Star starting lineup…….Do you actually think before you type? Reggie Jackson has 5 WS rings and was never a gold glover and neither was Manny Ramirez with Boston who has 2, is JD Martinez a good defensive OF?. How good a player was Scott Spezio who was our 1B on the 2002 WS team? BR says he averaged .255 15hr’s and just 70rbi’s during his 12 yr career. Semien’s FP according to BR is in the mid 980’s this year…….this ain’t 2016 or 2015 anymore and his improvement on defense is huge since 2018 when the A’s started their playoff run. The outfield defense was a clown show with Taylor Ward, Jered Walsh, Juan Lagares, Luis Rengifo and yes J-Up still sucks out in LF and will continue to be a bane to our team payroll until he isn’t. I love this statistic…….in 2019 the KC Royals were the second best fielding team in MLB second to only the St Louis Cardinals and lost 103 games….LOL!!!
Jose Iglesias sucks this year in the field and he’s a lot worse than Semien too, maybe he’s like Upton who can’t field anymore. Outfielders who are prone to offensive regression? LOL ( like Upton who’s raking in $21M from us! ).

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  2002heaven

I ACTUALLY AGREE WITH 2002! Semien’s developed into a solid SS and he can hit. If we could get a pile of pitching and him I’d be happy. I just don’t think we can.

Cowboy26
Super Member
27 days ago

So because of Semien’s recent play in 2021 where he has only started 14 games at shortstop we can conclude that he has now developed into a solid option there? His 2020 defensive metrics were abysmal and 2019 numbers wasn’t exactly stellar-At least not to the level that PTP has claimed that the team is looking for. Even utilizing the Lyle Spencer quality grade in-person eye test for the recent Angels Blue Jays double header he did not look that comfortable at 2B (although he played slightly better on the road than he did at home)

I would much rather the Angels sign Javy to a 1 year pillow contract since he would be motivated to rebuild his value and despite a down year at the plate his defense really hasn’t suffered , Or maybe even Chris Taylor. His defensive numbers at SS or still very good he’s solid at the plate and gives us versatility at other positions.

Cowboy26
Super Member
27 days ago
Reply to  H.T. Ennis

Rtot (-1) Rtot/year (0) those are kind of average don’t you think?

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Super Member
Reply to  Cowboy26

I think you mistake the term solid for super… or strident… or something. I didn’t say he’s good, he’s just solid, not a major liability, like a -1 Rtot.

I’d be fine with Baez too. The thing is Semein’s gonna have had 2 seasons over 6 WAR out of the last three after this year. Baez is also still a pretty good player. I know a single reporter said maybe it’s an option, but I’m not so sure BAez will sign a one year deal and Semein’s not coming cheap either.

So meh. Sign me Raisel and two other solid pitchers and I’ll take Jonthan Villar or Freddy Galvis.

matthiasstephan
Trusted Member
28 days ago
Reply to  2002heaven

Can they pitch?

rosstrade
Member
27 days ago
Reply to  2002heaven

I am ok with an 2022 outfield of Trout, Adell, Marsh, and J-Up.

My concern is with SS and back-up catcher. Not comfortable with Jose Inglesias’ defense. Maybe Taylor Ward can back-up Max Stassi and play an occasion OF position. It sucks he got sent down and then got injured.

The biggest issue is the pitching. Esp the bullpen.

2002heaven
Trusted Member
27 days ago
Reply to  rosstrade

I’m not cool with J-Up at all, he’s been a disaster and lets just say he was probably part of the reason for why Perry’s here now. I’d like to see us go after Garcia or Schwarber who also is having a good year in WAS/BOS because right now were down to just Walsh and Ohtani for power and run production and that’s it.

matthiasstephan
Trusted Member
27 days ago
Reply to  2002heaven

In no universe do we pay an additional pile of money for a 4th OF. If we have Adell, Marsh and Trout, J-up can ride the pine to earn his 21M.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Super Member

But what if I just don’t like Upton at all? THEN can we just release him and pay him to crush the universe on some other team? Added bonus, then you can forget all about how I demanded we cut Upton and listen to me complain about how PTP cut Upton and now he’s killing it in Cleveland or what ever.

Cowboy26
Super Member
27 days ago

Excuse me. You mean his $28,000,000

matthiasstephan
Trusted Member
27 days ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

I guess. Does that change anything? Still means to me it is better to pay him to be a 4th OF than to pay for him to play for the Guardians while we pay Lagares or Eaton or somebody to sit on the bench.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Super Member
Reply to  2002heaven

If we could get those two guys AND a gaggle of pitchers and a back up catcher I’d be fine with it. They’re good players and probably won’t be TOO expensive. Garcia though…. he’s streaky AF, like Upton streaky.

Cowboy26
Super Member
28 days ago

Good luck to you Sluggo. I’m sure some other team can fix you.

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2021/08/angels-outright-aaron-slegers-select-kyle-tyler.html

I can’t say we’ll miss you.

2002heaven
Trusted Member
28 days ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

If he does well for somebody else I promise not to say anything about it!

Cowboy26
Super Member
28 days ago
Reply to  2002heaven

Not sure I really care about what you do regarding Sluggo.

rosstrade
Member
27 days ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Should of happened a lot sooner.

red floyd
Super Member
27 days ago
Reply to  rosstrade

At least PTP took away one of Joe’s toys.

Angels2020Champs
Super Member
28 days ago

Last night sure was fun!! We don’t get those dimes dropped often

steelgolf
Super Member
28 days ago

Nice win, but this continuing problem with the starter not going at least 6 innings is disturbing. Unless the new CBA calls out for a 65 man roster, with 35 active, then you can probably stick a fork in the 2022 season too. You can’t put that much load on a bullpen throughout the season and expect good things to happen.

Twebur
Super Member
28 days ago
Reply to  steelgolf

It’s a pitching “Viral Load”.

steelgolf
Super Member
27 days ago
Reply to  H.T. Ennis

So disgustingly true.

2002heaven
Trusted Member
28 days ago

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Nick Krall Red’s GM since 2018
Tyler Mahle Red’s SP 10-4 WHIP1.196 WAR 4.0 7th rd 2013 MLB Draft by CIN and from Westminster CA !!!!! another OC guy who we overlooked. 😭  😖 

Last edited 28 days ago by 2002heaven
Senator_John_Blutarsky
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Reply to  2002heaven

OK, Captain Hindsight – JeDi was the GM. Be sure to let him know he fucked up.

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Last edited 28 days ago by Senator_John_Blutarsky
gitchogritchoffmypettis
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AHHHHH shit! I actually loaded up this GIF when I logged on, all ready to fire it off and POOP! you dropped it in already! Here’s a closer look at 2002….
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matthiasstephan
Trusted Member
28 days ago
Reply to  2002heaven

Could have had Kendall Graveman 10 picks later, too.

What is your point? A guy in his 5th MLB season is having a breakout year. Well done him.

I guess call Dipoto and tell him what a lousy job he did? And call Dusty Baker and give him credit (Nick Krall, as you note, didn’t draft Mahle).

Last edited 28 days ago by matthiasstephan
steelgolf
Super Member
28 days ago
Reply to  2002heaven

Dipoto payed 942k for Hunter Green.

matthiasstephan
Trusted Member
28 days ago
Reply to  steelgolf

Injuries suck

h27kim
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27 days ago
Reply to  2002heaven

I think we had Mahle’s brother in our system once. He looked good for a bit, fell hard, then disappeared, iirc. No way to tell how young(ish) pitchers (actually, pitchers generally) might turn out (I speak as someone who had high hopes gor Felix Pena once). One should always have a surplus of young pitching, to mix and match if necessary.

Cowboy26
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27 days ago
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Senator_John_Blutarsky
Super Member

Second win in the last eight games feels great. Nice offensive performance by Walsh and Marsh

Rahul Setty
Admin
Trusted Member
28 days ago

Adell looking very solid in the field is a nice surprise 🙂

Senator_John_Blutarsky
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Reply to  Rahul Setty

It’s shocking.

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matthiasstephan
Trusted Member
28 days ago
Reply to  Rahul Setty

Almost like he was a top 10 draft pick, with a reputation for a great glove, plus arm, and whose only (supposed) weaknesses were with the bat. Hmm.

(I know, but great to see him living up to his potential)

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Super Member
Reply to  Rahul Setty

Yup. He was a solid OF before last year when he got his brain lit on fire. I figured he’d be fine out there, I am more worried about him ending up with a 30% K rate in the MLB.

Twebur
Super Member
28 days ago
Cowboy26
Super Member
28 days ago
Reply to  Twebur

Brandon Marsh has now played 40 Big league games which is of course one quarter of the season . In his first 20 games he hit..143/.229/.206 with In his last 20 games including last night he slashed an incredible .409/.466/.576. His K rate per AB has actually increased 37% to 41% (although there have been slight improvements in the last 10 games) and I would like to see him steal more bases ( he has 3 SB in 4 Attempts)

Also right now Marshy has averaged 4.16 pitches per plate appearances which ties him with teammate Shohei Ohtani who is 17th highest in the league. Conversely Fletch is only averaging 3.22 pitches per PA. The League leader is Matt Olson at 4.30. The league average is 3.91 and as a team the Angels rank near the bottom at 26th averaging an anemic 3.80 pitches per Plate Appearance.

So I think Marsh could definitely he could be our answer at leadoff.Maybe starting off in a platoon role . He would be dropped down in the lineup against tough lefties as he continues to grow into the role.

Last edited 28 days ago by Cowboy26
rosstrade
Member
27 days ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Interesting idea and makes sense.

Marsh looks to be the best alternative leading, better than Fletch, Sho, or J-Up.

It would be interesting to see how Marsh adjusts to the extra pressure of leading-off with such limited MLB experience.

I have a feeling he’ll do fine.

Only one way to find out.

tommyshalo
Trusted Member
27 days ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Stoked for 2022 if this happens.

Marsh
Trout
Ohtani
Rendon
Walsh
Adell
Stassi
SS
Fletch

There will be injuries but Upton as depth is not bad and yes please invest money in pitching instead of a expensive SS.
I hope that draft of 20 pitchers is a sign that finally Arte has consented spending on pitching.

matthiasstephan
Trusted Member
27 days ago
Reply to  tommyshalo

YES! Mid-Tier SS. Bench of Upton, backup C, some inexpensive (hopefully from our farm) IF.

All the rest of the money on getting 1-2 starting pitchers and shoring up the pen.

Twebur
Super Member
28 days ago

Cuban catcher signed with the Angels this past February and has shown impressive skills on both sides of the ball during his pro debut here in the United States in the Arizona Complex League with the ACL Angels.
MLB Pipeline: One surging prospect from each club
https://www.mlb.com/news/prospects-on-rise-every-major-league-team

Eric_in_Portland
Super Member
28 days ago

95-67 might do it

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Super Member

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tanana40
Trusted Member
28 days ago

It is certainly possible.

FungoAle
Super Member
28 days ago

Nice multi-hit game Walsh. Hoping for a September repeat of last year with his power stroke working.

WallyChuckChili
Super Member
28 days ago

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nishiogawakun
Trusted Member
28 days ago

🙂

Cowboy26
Super Member
28 days ago

2022 edition.

max
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max
28 days ago

Let’s not jinx it!

red floyd
Super Member
28 days ago

[insert Jim Mora GIF]

Senator_John_Blutarsky
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