We knew it. Subconsciously or not, the amount of time Rendon was missing was worrying. He is now out for the season. See you in 2022, Rendon, hopefully a Rendon of old and not Old Man Rendon. This is yet another instance of Joe Maddon downplaying injuries. Shocker.
Rendon, 31, hit .240/.329/.382 in 249 plate appearances this season and was worth -0.1 bWAR. Rendon had a fine first season with the Halos in 2020, but in the second year of a seven-year deal, he struggled. The Angels hope he will be back in time to start 2022.
Jack Mayfield, Phil Gosselin, and prospects such as José Rojas and Luis Rengifo look take a swath of the ABs at third base with Rendon out.
Notes:
One suspects this is just load management for Chris Rodriguez, who should be back for the Tuesday double-header on Tuesday.
I feel really bad for the guy. But, I gotta say, this sure happens a lot with this team since Arte bought it. Injuries are always downplayed until we find out surgery is required and we won’t see a player for the rest of the year. Am I the only one waiting for a similar announcement regarding Trout? Why the bad info all the time? Is our medical staff inept? Or is Arte afraid ticket sales will plummet? I don’t see this happening with other teams so frequently, so it leaves me to say hmmmm.
The most worrisome thing to me is that these injuries to Rendon and Trout would on most AL teams resign them to DH duty at least a few times a week in future years to keep their legs/hips etc. a little fresher.
Ohtani being a beast is going to make the 30’s for Trout and Rendon a real adventure when it comes to nursing injuries.
My objection to him was never that he was lazy or flaky. I objected to spending so much money on a player of his type/age for his past accomplishments with another team It is clearer now that we will get MoVaughn/Pujols levels of performance from him if we’re lucky,plus Moreno will use it as a excuse to not spend money elsewhere as needed.
Wow, Tommy John surgery on his hip. Not surprising since he had basically fallen off the grid recently with no sightings or info. See ya in mid May of 2022.
Having a hamstring issue, is, kind of close to the hip, but it isn’t the hip.
These guys are strange
FUBAR
SNAFU!
Should have signed Machado the year prior to signing Dumpy Drawers. Much better athlete and younger.
Hip Impingement can be a frustrating and debilitating injury. Super sensitive, can’t stand or sit without pain. I just had the surgery about 5 weeks ago, so I feel you Anthony Rendon. Good luck on to him!!
Wow. Hope you’re back to 100% soon.
Typical 3B season ending injury apparently
https://www.athleticsnation.com/2020/9/15/21438158/elephant-rumblings-oakland-as-matt-chapman-injury-update-torn-hip-labrum
one month before Matt Chapman’s injury diagnosis but then again everybody’s different.
Was yours done arthroscopically? How are you feeling?
Get better and keep us updated, you’re our official Rendon Hip corespondent.
Scioscia, Ausmus and now Maddon. I don’t think it’s fair to say this is a case of Maddon downplaying it. There’s clearly an order to that effect coming from higher up in the org.
This is more an “us problem” than a “them problem”. Most of us know just as much about knee injuries as Joe Maddon or past managers. Yet some press guy always asks them about it, and then we take the answer seriously.
I swear to God, most of us have had some sort of injury before right? Did your doctor EVER really know how long it was going to take for you to heal up all the way? Accept for broken bones? Most of the time they guess at the time of injury, then after the swelling, then after treatment, then when rehab starts, then half way through rehab and THE GD DOCTOR IS WRONG HALF THE TIME. And that’s with no setbacks at all. How often does that happen?
But we’re all supposed to be gobsmacked and butt hurt because the team is vague and never accurate when it comes to injuries? Here, Ill make life easy for you. When a guy gets hurt just assume you won’t see him anytime soon until you hear he’s on a rehab assignment. If you start wondering what’s going on in the meantime the answer is the guy is still hurt. That’s pretty much all you need to know, you can get on with your life now.
I mean there is a difference of “we don’t know for sure” and saying he’s good for the next series only to not be anymore and gone for the year. I mean that happened right away with a knee contoursion and not serious turned into a gone for the year for our right fielder.
Yeah. Our managers need to just say “we don’t know.” cause they don’t… though I know other MLB managers do the same thing. I think they get a text from the trainer at game’s end that say “limb still intact” and then the manager tells the press he’ll be OK soon.
Fowler, probably a bruise. Hopefully out for just a couple of days.
Upton, back got a little tight. We’re not worried about it. Probably back Friday in Tampa Bay.
Rendon, he felt a little something in his hamstring. Hopefully just aggravated it a little bit. I don’t think he’ll miss significant time.
Exactly. How does Maddon or even a trainer actually know this 45 minutes after it happens? I said this earlier in the week, they need to be more like football coaches and just say “We’ll see how he looks in a few days….”
Really, the reporters should not even be asking the question if the injury happened that night/day. If it has been a couple of days that is something else…
But it takes time for that information to filter down to the manager, even if xrays were taken right after the game.
Fly by night garbage occupational medicine facilities?
There’s scores of them in the OC on some certain major boulevards. The same ones that drug and alcohol test you when you get injured on the job and a company defense lawyer to lowball you or look for a loophole to get out of paying. 💩 💩
My doctor did. He said “you can’t rebreak it. And you will know how much you can do. Everyday will it get better, until it doesn’t hurt anymore. No restrictions.” The whole point is to understand how long recovery will take.
He has operated on many pro athletes, including Love, and a few Dodgers.
This is the upper level. They do not want to lose fan interest. They do not lose money in sunk costs. “Are you sure.” must be a popular saying from up top.
Huh?
What don’t you understand?
I said that, in most injury cases, the doctor gives a timeline for recovery that is pretty shifting based on what they know at different stages accept for broken bones, which knit fairly reliably most of the time. At the actual time of the injury they are often very vague since they don’t even know everything that might be damaged.
You replied…. “My doctor did. He said “you can’t rebreak it. And you will know how much you can do. Everyday will it get better, until it doesn’t hurt anymore. No restrictions.” The whole point is to understand how long recovery will take.”
I can’t even tell if you’re agreeing or disagreeing with me. All I can tell is that you’re talking about a broken bone, I think. So I said huh?
Ha, ha. Yeah. I recently fractured my wrist, a month before a week-long bike ride. Would I be able to participate? Maybe. Maybe not. We’ll see. Spent two weeks in a cast, and then the hand specialist said he thought maybe I hadn’t fractured my wrist in the first place, that it was a sprain. Or maybe I had. Hard to know for certain. Anyway, wear this brace for a while and see me in a month. I still don’t know if it was a fracture or a sprain. The PT says my stiffness comes from the weeks in the cast, not the original injury. I’ll try to remember this experience next time we’re treated to shifting diagnoses from the Angels. The human body is a mysterious machine.
You mean like Richards having a bicep cramp then TJ?
Hmm.. interesting development for a player maligned here for not having “fire and desire” and just collecting a paycheck.
Blog suggestion/question
When looking at a post from the home page, is there any way to implement the “50 comments/32 new” feature like we had at the old place?
Hope I’m not asking for too much.
Thanks
Alas, it’s on our wish list but just not possible at this time.
All good! Thanks for the response
2021 is toast. Get Rendon and Trout healthy for next year. See what the young pitchers have down the stretch. Hopefully watch Marsh and Adell blossom into real MLB’ers.
Could have a worse dead August/Sept.
I’m actually liking this. So many years we’ve played out the guys we knew weren’t part of the future. This year we get to play couch GM as we watch the kids.
This is actually a super solid point. Wonder how much that has to do with actually having some players with potential instead of organizational filler. Too GA to go back and check. But agreed – it is nice that they’re letting the kids play, as you said.
This might be where Joe can shine at managing.
Young, wide eyed, and gullible to anything said because anything is possible.
Could help with BuhBuh, and Forest. No pressure, jus press
https://youtu.be/FZI2tKHPI2U
Just think of the September call ups.
We could get a good looks see at some of the more advanced 2021 draftees.
https://youtu.be/NCIUf8eYPqA
Doubt we’ll see any.of them. Longshot.
Finally, some clear communication!
If they had said from the beginning of this go-around that he was dealing with something that might require surgery (literally that’s as much detail as they would’ve needed) most of the fanbase would’ve understood.
Instead they played coy for a month and now there are memes and jokes of varying levels of seriousness implying Rendon is a flake and the Angels are medically incompetent.
Just an utter failure of PR and external comms all around.
I hope Rendon heals well over the offseason and the Angels become more honest soon.
They probably didn’t know he had a hip injury that bad until the other stuff healed enough to find out. Like I just found out my hip is more messed up than my back was because my back was too messed up to figure it out till recently.
This. Some folks would be amazed to find how easily serious injuries can be masked by other injuries.
And they build on each other.
You have to look at all the factors and double check everything. No sit and wait.
That is $Millions$ that are just sitting there being uncomfortable, and not being productive.
Unacceptable and unexcusable.
You guys are being too easy on this thinking these are the same professionals that you visit at the Kaiser Permanente conveniently near the freeway exit that you have to visit because that was the a you given by your employer because it was cheap.
No. I’m actually thinking more about guys who play for the Raiders, Bengals, Rockies and Marlins as well as a few MiLB, college and semi pro-team guys.
You can have the best doctors in the world, a hurt guy is still gonna sleep weird, or favor an injury when he sits down, etc. There are a thousand ways new problems can happen in the injury, or a related part of the body, or on the other side of the body. They do their best to monitor it, but problems creep up.
No, not at the level of medical expertise. No.
Really? They don’t actually do any kind of testing or have any kind of experience?
Yep, the staff of Dr Nick and Associates.
Meanwhile up north players keep coming out of the woodworks to join. Here players just look for excuses to sit out. Annoyed to say the least. Time to change your drawers poopie pants Rendon
😂
So let me see if I can get this straight. first it was his Groin, then it was his knee. Then came the shoulder injury and finally a strained hamstring since early July.
Now out of the blue he is having season ending right hip surgery. Are they sure it’s not his left Tricep or his right ankle? or maybe its Plantar facsciitis ?
Not sure any of the Angel quacks can even help him if nobody knows WTF is really wrong with him
They better mark the correct hip with a Sharpie before surgery, don’t get confused by any tattoos around there.
….and then quadruple check it. Better have the best Dr doing this, probably going in near his groin. Protect your Junk Tony and come back in 2023 when Junk is pitching for us.
When I was being prepped for knee surgery a few years ago, the surgeon came back and asked me at least 20 times which leg it was. He marked it with a sharpie, signed my leg, and then when we got to the operating room he asked me one more time before they knocked me out, lol.
That sounds crazy. Like I’d flip out and go nuts crazy.
Then they give you the good drugs and you don’t care about anything, lol
No for Rendon ! We don’t want another Skaggs on our hands !!
Count back from 10.
I think I got to 9 😂
Serious? Haha, I guess a surgeon with OCD isn’t the worst thing? Wonder if that’s common practice (haven’t had surgery befo’)
I’d actually be happy they were checking over and over again. Every now and again you read about them amputating the wrong limb on someone. Could you imagine that? You’re supposed to lose your left leg only to wake up and they removed your right one? Then they still gotta remove the left one anyway.
Oh no, I’d be super happy that they were checking again and again. As long as I could tell they were just making sure, instead of because they’re distracted or something
He definitely wasn’t distracted, was just doing his due diligence. I had a full recovery, so he did something right.
I have had the same experience as Mia with my two knee surgeries. Likely standard practice.
We’ll always have our stained yellow legs and ice machines 😘
100%
It’s definitely common to confirm the limb being operated on, but I wouldn’t be surprised if different surgeons had different routines.
It is amazing how often surgeries are botched.
You hear the stories about the wrong kidney being removed etc..
Just horrible stuff. Scary. This is why malpractice insurance is so expensive for doctors.
July of this year…….happens more than we know
https://www.npr.org/2021/07/13/1015750282/a-patient-got-a-kidney-meant-for-someone-else
Wow.
Had to be trolling
I had to do that with my hernia operation. Doctor asked if it was the right side, I replied no, and he gave me the sharpie. I marked with many arrows pointing South and to the left.
Angels dark hole at 3rd base since freese wasn’t retained. We finally get a stud and he’s hurt while getting paid big $. Tradition.
So you’re saying it’s a curse?
Better call the witch doctor then.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYgOlqinH7A
That’s funny because I considered freese part of the 3b black hole since figgins left.
We need Robb Quinlan back
The Mighty Quinn!!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K13hH0pJx5s
And yes, I know it’s a Dylan song.
Freese was serviceable. ~2.3 WAR in each of his years with us.
2.3 WAR is definitely serviceable but it’s hardly memorable. Perhaps black hole is a bit harsh, but i expect more than .257.323.420 and .270.352.412
from a 3B. Those are soft hitting 2B and SS stats. And yes I know figgy was light hitting but he was a helluva lot better at everything else than freese ;-). Freese to me just gets lost in the noise of our third baseman being forgettable with Wood, Valbuena, Marte, Cowart, et al. It’s funny Callaspo was actually worth 3 and 3.6 WAR in his 2 full seasons with us and is mostly forgotten by everyone, myself included. Good Ol’ hot dog, I should have appreciated him more while we had him i guess.
Black hole is actually appropriate to describe where Figgy went after he left us …..
7 years $245 million
pain.
We gotta win a ring in the next 5 years
And backloaded.. ouch
Surgery? Dang, he’s really committed to being lazy to collect his huge check. I bet they cut him open, pull some things out, then just put them back in so he has a cool scar in the event anyone ever questions it.
It’s what I’d do. Best part is, Arte will go along with it since I already put some butts in seats and he doesn’t actually care about winning.
Thinking about it, I have yet to see a single person wearing a Rendon jersey at a game. and I’ve been to around 10 games this season. Seen a bunch of Fletcher ones, to go along with the obvi Trout and Ohtani. But no Rendon. Wonder if Arte is regretting that signing, even before this injury filled season.
I have seen several shirtseys
So its just my blind eyes then. I stand corrected
But I agree … No high dollar jerseys at all. Seen more Hamilton gear than Rendon gear!!!
blasphemy
Been to 1 game this year. Saw Hamilton gear. I was like…. huh?
Wonder if that’s the only option they had, were trying to be funny, or personally know the dude.
guy probably just likes to party
I was tempted to ask him. But he seemed … stuck up? Not nice? So I was like nehh
Probably bought it before he ever played a game. I got an ohtani jersey before he had ever played a game for instance. Also got a Hunter jersey as soon as they signed the contract.
Yea that’s possible. What’s your “funniest” jersey you own?
Mo Vaughn?
Greinke? Etc
I don’t own any that are particularly bad, I’ve gotten lucky on that front. I have a pujols Jersey i got as a gift before he ever played a game at the big A, maybe that counts ;-). I have some that didn’t turn in to super stars like Richards, etc. I have a friend that has a Jose Guillen jersey, that’s probably the “funniest” one I know of.
Dang man, jerseys ain’t cheap. I’m too non-committal to buy a jersey until I know if I like him and he’ll be around for a while. I respect your ability to just jump right in on a player.
Saw one Sunday. My first thought was “really?”
Best one I ever saw was a Jose Guillen jersey, circa 2009 or so.
For some reason I remember vividly years ago a guy sitting in front of me with a Bootcheck jersey. I’m guessing he knew Bootcheck or was family, right?
Have they done a giveaway of Rendon shirts? Or were they shirts that people actually went out and purchased? I got a pretty cool Ohtani shirt last weekend at a game, otherwise I would literally never own an Ohtani shirt.
I’ve seen the ones at the store. Says Angels in front then has Rendon and 6 on the back. You know, the old tried and true they’ve done for several players.
Seen a handful of fans wearing them. Come to think of it I might have seen one guy wearing an actual jersey. He was a huge Rendon fan sitting near us.
Same. Shirts but no real jerseys.
It’s like the Upton trade/signing. I never see Upton stuff, not even in the store. Rendon at least has gear in the store and I occasionally see a shirt.
I’d want a Marsh or an Adell, maybe a Detmers
Detmers likely has the least risk of getting traded, but Marsh/Adell I’d give it another season before buying their jersey. I still think one of them could get traded for pitching. I’ve been cruising all season in my Simba jersey, mainly because its the best one I have, but it does hurt to have a name of a guy playing for another team.
I own a rendon jersey, but I have worn other ones this year because he hasn’t been on the field much.
how many jerseys do you have?
I don’t want to go count, but a lot ;-). Granted they go back to the 70’s with ones that my father and uncle gave me from before i was born. At a guess i would say 35ish. I usually get one whenever we sign a big player or one signs an extension. I bought a fletch jersey this year for instance.
wow! 35?? thats awesome, respect. I only have two, Trout and Simmons. Ones white and ones red. been thinking about getting a new one from the ’94-’96 seasons as I really like the style from that era.
That’s a solid collection. I have a red Trout, white Trout, throwback looking Hunter one.
Like “Operation” man and his nose lights up if the tweezers hit the sides
THIS, like the lack of MiLB investment, is just bad business. I’m not outraged, or insisting on some lame ass show of accountability or contrition. I’m don’t actually need someone to blame for this. Injuries happen, and unless it’s from being in terrible shape or roid damage I’m OK with that.
But f*** Arte! What did you lose, 60-70 million dollars to injury this year? What did hurt assed Pujols cost you? Bruh! At this point I’d spend spend more than ANY other team on medical staff…. I’m talking the army of internal medical staff that a major soccer team has. Spend 5 mil a year on it. It will save you tons of money in the end.
And for f*** sake find out where the dead indians are buried under your stadium and pull those suckers out of there!
they’re dead guardians, not Indians. jeez
2pints wins today’s interwebz.
Genuine laugh here.
If he was rushed back early from the knee thing, that’s concerning. I would try and see what that process is like for clearing players.
PS. Yeah, I know the contracts are insured, but he ties that money up in those players. The interest alone on that money sitting in his bank is sizable. He invested 30+ M in a player to hopefully make an extra 100 M winning games and selling shirts, etc. Arte’s got to do more to protect his investment in players, even if his training staff is actually OK, at this point he needs to go balls to the walls overkill on it.
Eric_In_Portland was right all along.
Happy for him.
Just get right for 2022, Tony
Who?