Angels Shutout A’s for Once

Jaime Barria is on the bump vs the A’s in the 3rd game of the series. With the injuries and trades, his time to shine is now. And shine he did. 6 and 2/3 shutout innings against a very great A’s team. Gave the Angels a chance to win. The offense however, did not seem to want to win, scoring just 1 run. The pitchers would have to be perfect to win.

Recap

Golden Barria

The game started with a HBP by Barria. That did not go anywhere, however, and he got out of the inning no problem. Offensvely, Cole Irvin went through 1-3 1-2-3. Scoreless after 1.

Barria shut down the A’s in order in the second. The Angels gave Irvin some trouble in the bottom of the inning, but alas, continued to not score. 0-0 after 2.

A scary 3rd with 2 on and 2 outs for Barria ended with relief as he kept the A’s off the board. Then, after literal games of not scoring, the Angels finally put a run across vs Oakland. Ohtani doubling in Thaiss! 1-0 Angels after 3.

NOT SHUT OUT!

Jaime Barria had a lead and acted like it, shutting down the A’s in the 4th. The Angels got action going in the bottom of the 4th, but were unable to capitalize. Still 1-0 Angels after 4.

For the 5th, Jaime seemed to be cruising, and got through the inning quickly to send the offense back out there. Unfortunately, the offense didn’t like being out there and went down easy. Still 1-0 Angels after 5.

The 6th came and the 6th went, with Jaime Barria still on the mound. While he did give up a double, the lead was still there. Not that it seemed to be appreciated, as the offense went down in order. Still 1-0 Angels after 6.

7th time and Barria was still out there. Well, it may have been too much. With 2 outs, he loaded the bases, unable to find the zone. Still, 6 and 2/3 scoreless innings vs one of the best teams in baseball was a great outing!

Don’t Blow it please

Unfortunately, anyone besides D-Cell would be a bad move and he couldn’t pitch THIS much. So Maddon put in his favorite, Cishek. He immediately gave up a line drive right on the screws. Luckily, it was caught by Gosselin.

Even the Angels’ subreddit knows it

Now the Angels had to face their old friend Petit. A pitcher they just let walk for some reason.

Of course it is Cishek in first…

He shut down the Angels, keeping it at 1-0 After 7. 6 outs to go for the bullpen, an insurance run or 5 would have been handy.

Quijada was now in and it did not go pretty. He let one on, but got a double play. So far not bad, except Laureano was up. The A’s player who has single handedly wrecked the Angels. And he scorched one, almost a home run. A ball that would be a home run in 25 other parks. Maddon pulled him for D-Cell for the 4 out save. He got the out of it with a flyout. Exhale.

Ohtani was up first in the bottom of the 8th. He struck out. Gosselin up next, he flew out. Churches grounded out to end the inning. Still 1-0 Angels after 8.

9th inning time, 3 outs to go. No room for error. First batter, strikeout. Second batter, a flyout. Third batter, strikeout. Angels win!

Upcoming

The Angels face Oakland again tomorrow at 1PM. July is in the books now, 2 months to go. No Waiver trade deadline, the team is what it is now. Drink responsibly.

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WallyChuckChili
Super Member
2 months ago

Angels draft Kumar Rocker 2022

Eric_in_Portland
Super Member
2 months ago

also, kind of exciting, recent interviewee (thank, Jeff!) Ryan Smith made his AA debut yesterday and took the loss, 6 IP, 3 ER. The pen then gave up 7 more in the 11-1 loss. Davis Daniel was the hard luck loser in the 2nd game, 2 runs, 1 earned. I believe it was mentioned elsewhere (maybe here in this thread) that he whiffed 10, walked nobody. So the Trash Pandas got swept but those pitching performances continue our reasons for optimism.

Eric_in_Portland
Super Member
2 months ago

my memory ain’t what it used to be. I dimly recall some Seattle pitcher (I think it was Seattle) who came up and was rudely treated by us. This year, too, so it’s not like I’m going way way back. Some heralded Seattle (if it was Seattle) guy.

Anyway, my hope for Detmers is 6 innings, 2 runs or less, which would be outstanding, and we get 3 runs or more.

Eric_in_Portland
Super Member
2 months ago

turns out it was KC. Jackson Kowar. So that’s about the worst that Detmers can do. It’s the low bar. But as stated, I hope he looks good, if only for his self-confidence.

eyespy
Super Member
2 months ago

They were talking about this same type of situation on the TBS game today and the White Sox pitcher.

You just don’t pull up someone because of numbers in a situation like this, you are also looking for the hot hand, a pitcher that is on a roll.

Do Detmers recent outings reflect that?

Eric_in_Portland
Super Member
2 months ago
Reply to  eyespy

you know they do. One AAA game, which he aced.

eyespy
Super Member
2 months ago

Fresh off the grill

Eric_in_Portland
Super Member
2 months ago
Reply to  eyespy

Spicy, I hope

eyespy
Super Member
2 months ago

This day did happen back in 1981. I watched this live on too much valium and vodka

https://youtu.be/PJtiPRDIqtI

Last edited 2 months ago by eyespy
Twebur
Super Member
2 months ago
Reply to  eyespy

Alternative programming for todays certain 12-2 Angels victory …..who wants to watch a blowout win.
Should be a mandatory watch for the youth here at CTPG.

Eric_in_Portland
Super Member
2 months ago
Reply to  eyespy

as I saw on Facebook, 40th anniversary celebrating 10 years of music.

eyespy
Super Member
2 months ago

ouch

red floyd
Super Member
2 months ago

MTV is now the “Shiny Things” network.

Cowboy26
Super Member
2 months ago
Reply to  red floyd

too many commercials even back then.

Cowboy26
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FungoAle
Super Member
2 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

It’s never materialized for Rengifo, he’s had his chances. Now, we can get frustrated with Wong.

Twebur
Super Member
2 months ago
Reply to  FungoAle

Get frustrated with Wong, while Rengifo plays everyday in AAA, does well and gets recalled to replace a struggling Wong……..rinse and repeat.

eyespy
Super Member
2 months ago
Reply to  Twebur

Rack up them miles kids to use on the long Winter vacation

Cowboy26
Super Member
2 months ago
Reply to  FungoAle

Time for the Stefanic era to begin.

FungoAle
Super Member
2 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

I welcome that vs Wong, for sure.

Last edited 2 months ago by FungoAle
TapatioMan
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2 months ago
Reply to  FungoAle

Never imagined Rengifo would be THIS bad. Was so hopeful he could be a solid (and cheap) utility player, which this team is really going to need for next year.

Last edited 2 months ago by TapatioMan
FungoAle
Super Member
2 months ago
Reply to  TapatioMan

After the Angels acquired Luis for Cron, Fangraphs had listed Rengifo as a fringe prospect, basically a guy who might really make in impact. On that same list one could also find David Fletcher.

TapatioMan
Member
2 months ago
Reply to  FungoAle

Yea, I remember that. I also remember thinking we sort of stole him from TB since i was so over Cron. Hasn’t worked out yet though

Last edited 2 months ago by TapatioMan
Eric_in_Portland
Super Member
2 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

I had zero confidence in Hoyt. Pitched poorly here, pitched poorly in Salt Lake.

angelslogic
Super Member
2 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

If I were Rengifo I’d consider myself lucky. I thought for sure his extended stint riding the pine was a set-up for being DFA’d.

Cowboy26
Super Member
2 months ago

And one of our other last hold outs signed. I guess Perry made him an offer he couldn’t refuse.

https://twitter.com/CarlosACollazo/status/1421849831975407618

TapatioMan
Member
2 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Heck yes.

Twebur
Super Member
2 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Sounds like they were less than certain he’d sign, projecting as a starter.

So many new pitchers now, we’ll start asking if he “can hit” instead of “can he pitch?”

Cowboy26
Super Member
2 months ago
Reply to  Twebur

What a great problem to have.

eyespy
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2 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

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Twebur
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2 months ago
Reply to  eyespy
eyespy
Super Member
2 months ago
Reply to  Twebur

His real screams haunt me.

Cowboy26
Super Member
2 months ago
Reply to  eyespy

First there was the Ninja ( Del Taco style) Then there was the JeDi, (Not sure what Billy was) But now we maybe seeing the birth of The Godfather.

eyespy
Super Member
2 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26
gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  Cowboy26

This is good news. I like him a lot.

FungoAle
Super Member
2 months ago
Reply to  Twebur

Nice! How many picks are still left unsigned?

Twebur
Super Member
2 months ago
Reply to  FungoAle

far as I know 19 of the 20

The #Angels signed 11th round RHP Chase Silseth for $485K.
#MLBDraft

Cowboy26
Super Member
2 months ago
Reply to  Twebur

Who is the lone hold out? Maybe Perry can threaten to break his kneecaps or something.

TapatioMan
Member
2 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

The 20th round selection, RHP Marcelo Perez

Twebur
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2 months ago
Reply to  TapatioMan

2002 will post his big mug shot in another 3 years after he becomes a stud with Jerry’s Kids……..and of course ranting about Cheap Arte.

Cowboy26
Super Member
2 months ago
Reply to  Twebur

At this point I think they can only offer him close to the minimum at about $135K without losing a draft pick.

They have about 2 more hours to sign him. Knowing Perry he better take it if he knows what’s good for him.

Last edited 2 months ago by Cowboy26
FungoAle
Super Member
2 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

LOL. Or maybe give him an Ohtani autograph PSA 10 baseball card to sweeten the pot.

Eric_in_Portland
Super Member
2 months ago
Reply to  FungoAle

coincidently I looked up Ohtani cards last night and saw some high prices so that offer you mention would be a good one.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Super Member
Reply to  Twebur

NIce! I thought with Silseth signing he may be lost to us.

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Super Member
2 months ago

Although a last minute deal could be put together, it doesn’t look like the Mets will sign Rocker.

It might be dumb luck that the Angels passed over him to overslot the later picks, but the decision sure looks astute right now. Can’t imagine the vitriol that would be hurled at Perry right now if he drafted a lame Rocker.

eyespy
Super Member
2 months ago

Vitriol, on this site, from Angels fans?

h27kim
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2 months ago

It’s good to see Barria (and Sandoval) emerge as legit starting options for 2022, but it’s probably still a bit risky (at least) to expect that they can be reliably expected to fill starting roles next year. As per excellent points raised by FS1971, the team has a few important holes to fill, for respectability in 2022 (no one really should expect much this year, I think–Perry is being wise to punt as he did on deadline). Given that Ohtani probably won’t be a a “full time” pitcher in the foreseeable future, a six-man rotation has to be planned for and a full time top of the rotation pitcher and a couple of veteran mid-to-back of rotation arms (someone like Cobb for instance) would still be needed. Ohtani can take the 2nd spot and a combination of Barria, Sandova, Suarez, Rodriguez, and Detmers could probably take the 2 remaining spots, plus fill-in for injuries and some of the bullpen roles. Resigning the Church Battery is probably important (barring an opportunity to sign a comparable closer cheaper–i.e. something that probably won’t happen) if we want to restore any hope of stability in the bullpen, coupled with hopefully better dumpster diving plus creative use of all the “interesting” arms with options that we have suddenly stockpiled. Add a good (but not necessarily excellent) replacement shortstop, a good “backup/halftime” backstop and a defensively capable backup CF, and suddenly, we should be back in business for 2022. Many of the pieces are already on hand: Church Battery and Cobb are already in the fold and hopefully can be resigned within reason. Adding an extra back of the rotation veteran hopefully won’t be too difficult and at any rate, not as important as having a front of the rotation arm. I would not actually mind bringing Joe Churches back, if it is more economical than going after one of the premier FA SS’s. Eaton and Lagares would make for good defensive 4th OF and retaining either or even both, would be helpful in either relieving Trout (wherever he plays next year) and backing up/insuring for Marsh and/or Adell. Trading one of Adell or Marsh, plus Canning and one other prospect, as per FS1971’s suggestion, for a youngish potential top of the rotation starter with future control seems very doable, if a bit costly.

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Super Member
2 months ago
Reply to  h27kim

I agree Sandoval has shown a lot this season, but I still have my doubts about Barria.

If a staff ace emerges internally (Detmers?), we’ll be in a great position. If not, we’re going to need to acquire.

h27kim
Trusted Member
2 months ago

I don’t think we can rely too much on internal resources, period. So out of 6 possible rotation spots, I’d figure that a combination of the 5 prospects we have can fill only 2. Acquiring a potential top of the rotation arm with future control is a must, I think, even if the price involves Adell or Marsh and Canning, plus a longer term prospect like Adams (as per FS1971’s thoughts), and we’d still probably need to add 1 or 2 veteran arms with mid rotation potential (depending on whether we keep Cobb).

TapatioMan
Member
2 months ago
Reply to  h27kim

Kim, I 100% agree with you regarding the need to add more SP.

It’s easy to get excited (I definitely am) about the progress some of our young starters have made, but it would be a mistake not to add more starting pitching.

My cousin and I were discussing this very topic yesterday. I told him that, in my opinion, you always have to assume that roughly 2-4 (at minimum) of your starting staff will either 1)underperform, 2)regress, 3)face injury, and in Ohtani’s case 4) will he be able to keep up the pace? + he often has his turn in the rotation skipped.

So while something like …
Ohtani
Sandoval
Cobb
Detmers
Rodriguez
Suarez
Barria
Canning
…. is definitely a nice core, there absolutely are question marks there with each one of them.

I would want to add maybe 2 starting pitchers to go directly into the rotation, and add another 2-3 that can be in the minor leagues. This would give us a ton of depth, and even (probably) make our bullpen better because some of those starters can be stashed in the bullpen a la the dodgers.

Last edited 2 months ago by TapatioMan
Cowboy26
Super Member
2 months ago
Reply to  TapatioMan

Ironically when we looked at that same list before the beginning of the season we would say it was trash.

TapatioMan
Member
2 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Oh for sure.

But, with the exception of Canning, they’ve all shown nice/unexpected growth this year.

FungoAle
Super Member
2 months ago

I as well. We’ve seen this before from Barria. Sharp outings then regression. Suarez as well. I do however think highly of Sandoval.

Fansince1971
Super Member
2 months ago

Excited to see Detmers. That was a surprise win yesterday! Would have given 100-1 against a 1-0 Angeks win with Barria on the mound.

FungoAle
Super Member
2 months ago

This might be a repost but happy Perry did not select Kumar Rocker. The velocity drop was a red flag to me and he did not look good through the regionals and WS. Plus, the Boras aspect.

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2021/08/mets-agreement-with-draft-pick-kumar-rocker-in-jeopardy.html

h27kim
Trusted Member
2 months ago
Reply to  FungoAle

Probably a very bad combination: someone who was extremely highly touted before his stock fell a bit, but is still represented by Boras who wants him to be signed as if he’s still a top 3 pick, if not the top pick. :/

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Super Member
2 months ago
Reply to  h27kim

Bet he has elbow damage – wait and see what’s said in the next few weeks

red floyd
Super Member
2 months ago

Off Topic: Happy Day That Never Happened, guys!

tanana40
Trusted Member
2 months ago
Reply to  red floyd

For the past 9 years, I also commemorate the Day That Never Happened.

Cowboy26
Super Member
2 months ago
Reply to  tanana40

I’m not going to celebrate non existence, In fact I never wrote this post.

eyespy
Super Member
2 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Where didn’t it go?

eyespy
Super Member
2 months ago
Reply to  red floyd

What are you talking about? Nothing is marked on my calendar. What is today’s date? Why does my tummy feel like burning?

Designerguy
Super Member
2 months ago
Reply to  red floyd

Can’t celebrate something that never happened. Nope. Not gonna happen.

eyespy
Super Member
2 months ago
Reply to  Designerguy

[stuffs cork back in] don’t ask

red floyd
Super Member
2 months ago
Reply to  Designerguy

Do you have the calendar?

Designerguy
Super Member
2 months ago
Reply to  red floyd

No such date exists. Nope. Nein, Nyet.
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Commander_Nate
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Trusted Member
2 months ago

Just noticed Ohtani’s current WAR is 6.9…

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Barria. Apparently the man wants a job in 2022.

The sour mope “we just let Petit walk!” is second only to the “we could have had Vlad Jr right now!” bullshit.

Yes we “let” the pitcher who was no longer under contract with us “walk” back to the Bay Area where he’d played all his seasons accept one with us and where he still owned a house that he still lived in. He signed a contract with the A’ss at the literal start of the off season to boot.

You fellas do realize that sometimes a guy just doesn’t want to be on your team, right? Not because your team did something wrong, but because he misses Casper Dog and the view from his back porch or any number of other reasons. Why find weak ass stuff to bitch about when there are plenty of ACTUAL things to whine like a ten year old girl over with this team?

eyespy
Super Member
2 months ago

This comment belongs on the free Angels fan site at https://www.halosheaven.com/

You should go and enjoy yourself over there, where the grass is greener.

2002heaven
Trusted Member
2 months ago
Reply to  eyespy

Not even Halo’s Heaven, but Halo’s Hangout.
https://halohangout.com/

Last edited 2 months ago by 2002heaven
HalosFanForLife
Trusted Member
2 months ago

Yeah, but Detmers is pitching today. Tell the truth, you are hoping he does well. Tell the truth. LOL

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Super Member

I was hoping he’d do well. He didn’t, but that’s OK. I think he’s a good prospect, it was just his first crack at it…. let the learning begin!

Cowboy26
Super Member
2 months ago

Yusmiero signed a 3 year $14.5 Million contract with the A’ss No way Billy would have ever paid that kind of coin or made that length of a commitment to a middle reliever. Considering the A’ss lack of financial resources its interesting that Beane’s would allocate this amount of their budget to a set up guy but it has definitely paid off for them.

But relative to V Jr., I cant pet your Gritch on this one gitcho. I don’t see any similarities between Petit and the Baldoquin fiasco. If they define success as when preparation meets opportunity, dumping $11 million on a completely unheralded nobody prevents the utilization of either of these important ingredients and just makes us look like the biggest dump asses that ever ran a professional baseball team. With this lack of preparation I’m sure Jerry would have tried to make a trade for Sidd Finch given the opportunity.

red floyd
Super Member
2 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Didn’t 2002 try to spin Baby Vlad a few months ago with the picture shit?

I bet 2002 doesn’t realize that part of the reason we DON’T have Baby Vlad is because of his beloved Jer-Jer.

eyespy
Super Member
2 months ago
Reply to  red floyd

And my Dreamboat, Baldoquin, all $8,000,00.00 of him. made getting VJr not possible. Thanks DerPoto

red floyd
Super Member
2 months ago
Reply to  eyespy

Exactly.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Super Member
Reply to  eyespy

If it helps you sleep better, even though Baldo was a total piss puddle, there were teams, like the Jays, who had a lot more money to spend than we did. We weren’t landing Vlad Jr even with Baldo’s money available.

max
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max
2 months ago

I guess the Angels picked a good day to score a run. Score one run and are 1-2 in the series, unbelievable. Excellent pitching, though.

Eric_in_Portland
Super Member
2 months ago

I went looking for our 104 game w-l records since we started losing, which mean starting in 2016. What really stands out is how horribly we finished in 2019 when Ausmus was our manager. If it’s of any interest to you, here are some numbers

2016: 47-57. From that point we were 27-31, finishing 74-88
2017: 50-54. Then 30-28 to finish 80-82
2018: 52-52. Then 28-30 to finish 80-82
2019: 54-50. Then (yikes) 18-40 for a 72-90 record.

This year’s 52-52 fits in nicely with the last three full seasons. I’d take 30-28 like in 2017 and a final 82-80 record. It’d be a lot of progress from 72-90 (and 26-34).

eyespy
Super Member
2 months ago

How do I give this comment a thumbs down. I do not need to be reliving these nightmare seasons anymore. The past is the past and don’t look back.

steelgolf
Super Member
2 months ago
Reply to  eyespy

The only reason to look at the past is to see “why” it happened, like history is meant to learn from. Every season was because the pitching sucked, and it took all the way from 2015 to 2021 PTP, to address this system wide issue. After this years draft I finally have hope for the future of this team.

eyespy
Super Member
2 months ago
Reply to  steelgolf

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Cowboy26
Super Member
2 months ago
Reply to  eyespy

Can he pitch?

eyespy
Super Member
2 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Sales, budgets, and deals. All the damn time, no mound needed.

Eric_in_Portland
Super Member
2 months ago
Reply to  eyespy

Why would you thumbs down my superfine comment? I guess its not clear that I’m saying that as a season this one isn’t much different from previous ones but at least it doesn’t look to finish as badly as 2019.

That’s some excellent analysis, if you ask me. Or not.

eyespy
Super Member
2 months ago

Great numbers Eric.

I’m joking at the fact that you are reviving my shoort term memory that I tried to lose. But I guess losing it comes as hard as losing comes easy to this team we follow. You can only give a thumbs up on this site, I really don’t want to give you thumbs down, I want to give it to the answer your hard work provided.

nishiogawakun
Trusted Member
2 months ago

Fair point. I just don’t see this as a linear thing unfortunately. More like a sin wave, or an ebb and a flow better yet. I just am worried that this was actually supposed to be a flow, and maybe it is a flow but the weakest of flows, and soon the ebb is coming.

Twebur
Super Member
2 months ago
Reply to  nishiogawakun

Weak flow, stopped and started several times, ebbing frequently at night?
TJS surgery on the prostate or a prostatectomy.

eyespy
Super Member
2 months ago
Reply to  Twebur

You need a screen name like jack Frost to write so eloquently on this site.

FungoAle
Super Member
2 months ago

For me, if we don’t finish in the playoffs, lousier finish the better. Need a tank commander to drive to a Top 10 pick. Ausmus did his duty.

No other sport, maybe NHL, where you can go from last to the World Series like baseball as it is a collection of individual stats.

Last edited 2 months ago by FungoAle
MikeSalmon
Trusted Member
2 months ago

1 run for the Angels over the last 28 innings.

I’m thinking we’re gonna need MOAR than that on Sunday. A lot moar.

matthiasstephan
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2 months ago
Reply to  MikeSalmon

Are you suggesting that one needs to score runs to win a baseball game? Whodovthunkit?

2002heaven
Trusted Member
2 months ago

Hooduvthunkit is duh koreckt spelleeng. 😀 

Twebur
Super Member
2 months ago

Trash Panda new guy has already reported for duty…….

“Davis Daniel (L, 0-2). In his fourth Double-A start, the former Auburn Tiger gave up two runs, one earned, on seven hits with no walks and 10 strikeouts. But he would be the tough luck loser in the nightcap. 
Trade deadline acquisition Jose Marte came on for Rocket City in the seventh and pitched a scoreless inning to keep it a one-run game.”

FungoAle
Super Member
2 months ago
Reply to  Twebur

Rooting for Davis Daniel. No walks and 10Ks, nice.

Brent
Trusted Member
2 months ago
Reply to  Twebur

I just need Junk to make 1 start for the Trash Pandas.

red floyd
Super Member
2 months ago
Reply to  Brent

Do you think that the Angels will be posting pictures of their Junk?

WallyChuckChili
Super Member
2 months ago
Reply to  red floyd

Here’s a pic of the Angels Junk.
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2002heaven
Trusted Member
2 months ago

We didn’t draft this guy in the 8th round back in 2015 from the Alaskan Yukon?

Last edited 2 months ago by 2002heaven
Senator_John_Blutarsky
Super Member
2 months ago
Reply to  red floyd

Didn’t work out good for Callaway

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Super Member
2 months ago
Reply to  Brent

Classic. Let the Junk memes flow!

Brent
Trusted Member
2 months ago

Watched it on the regular tv today (FS1) and it was going well so I didn’t want to jinx it by hoping on the computer/CTPG… and it paid off with the win.

eyespy
Super Member
2 months ago
Reply to  Brent

You need to upgrade your cable package to the $10,000/m Supurbium Package+ to guarantee us a World Series ring this season.

Jim Atkins
Trusted Member
2 months ago

Huge improvement after last night, and I wonder if Rich Waltz signed his contract before he knew about Pornstache Weekend.