In view of the recent interest in minor league players in the Angels system, I decided to mine a couple of Rex Fregosi’s photos of the 2017 Arizona League. Perry Minasian says he will look into the issue of their living conditions and address it. I am not sure how he plans to address it.
Mike Trout is undergoing tests to determine why he can still feel something in his right calf when he runs hard. The tests apparently showed no bad news. Not really really bad, anyway.
Good news! Reid Detmers fanned nine in his AAA debut over six scoreless innings.
Perry Minasian talks here about those pitchers the Angels just drafted.
Links From Around Baseball
Hey! The Mets are looking for rental pitchers.
The majority of the Dodgers players don’t want Trevor Bauer back. He had his restraining order hearing on Friday but it was continued to a three day evidentiary hearing to be held on August 2, 3, and 19. It looks like he is going to end up having to take the Fifth Amendment.
Speaking of Dodgers players, Mookie Betts is on the ten day injured list with right hip inflammation.
The Padres are considering moving Eric Hosmer. Thanks, but no thanks.
Meanwhile, the Marlins have some relief pitchers for sale.
The Pittsburgh Pirates continue to sell. They traded relief pitcher Clay Holmes to the Yankees for minor league prospects Diego Castillo and Hoy Park.
Cleveland pitcher Nick Wittgren had a tough outing and as a result received hate emails including a death threat. He said it happens to 90% of the players he knows. Relax people! Is it really worth going to jail over a baseball game?
Photo credits: Rex Fregosi
Soooo…. Mariners trade away their closer for a 1st base prospect…. then trade prospects to get 2 months of Tyler Anderson from the Bucs. I’m confused.
Happy Ground hog day.
https://twitter.com/SamBlum3/status/1420161914311639043
https://www.cedars-sinai.org/programs/undiagnosed-patient-center.html
day one of the Walsh injury dance
https://twitter.com/jphoornstra/status/1420166346642366466?s=20
I think I liked the other lineup better.
Wow the Mariners just traded their closer to The Asstros.
https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2021/07/mariners-trade-kendall-graveman-astros-abraham-toro-joe-smith.html
2002 will need a big head shot of Toro, do you have one? All I can find is lawn mower adds.
He’s like a lawn centaur.
That will work👌
Is their bullpen that deep, simple as moving guys up? Or another deal coming…..
Trader Jerry’s favorite time of year.
While the article suggests the Mariners are throwing in Joe Smith, I am pretty sure what they mean is that the Mariners are also receiving Joe Smith.
The wording is a little ambiguous.
Graveman is a FA coming up, but this is still a big Wow!!
The M’s have indeed been extremely lucky, but nonetheless they are still “in it.”
They must feel the offensive help is more important, and maybe also that Graveman can’t continue that type of dominance.
He’s never had a season like this before. Looks like selling high.
https://twitter.com/TaylorBlakeWard/status/1419944839009865730?s=20
Crazy stat…
The Mariners have a -49 run differential and a 55-46 record this season through 101 games That’s the lowest run diff for any team with 55+ wins thru 101 games since at least 1901
I guess when they lose they lose very badly
I am not somebody who believes that run differential is the end all and be all, but this stat shows that with a little luck, and a little “help” an unbalanced and actually poor team can still win games.
The hard to believe record in 1 run games that we talked about previously now stands at 23-3, and is frankly almost impossibly good.
What is going on here? I do not believe that their manager Servais is that much better than his managerial opposition. One runs games are normally where managers play the biggest role.
Is Servais that good?
I don’t think so.
Graveman has been amazing for them. While he has saved only 10 games he has an ERA under 1 ( 0.82 to be exact) and likewise a WHIP under 1. But it is a comparatively small sample. For us Raisel has appeared in 45 games while Graveman has only appeared in 30 games. So, they don’t overuse him. This could be one of the big reasons for his success.
But Graveman alone cannot explain that ridiculous record in one run games.
IIRC, the Angels also beat the hell out of Pythagorus back in the day (late 200x’s?). I think it has to do with a lockdown bullpen but also a bullpen (or starters) that allow a few games to completely get away (blowout losses).
*Pythagoras for the cocks in the house.
https://www.lookoutlanding.com/2021/7/27/22596243/the-2021-mariners-are-the-most-clutch-team-in-mlb-and-franchise-history
Angels #19….
Anybody heard anything about Walsh?
Only the dreaded Joe Maddon words “It’s nothing serious.”
The Memorial service is scheduled for 10 AM tomorrow
Ha ha. Yes, the less serious they SAY it is, the MORE serious it really is !!!
I thought he used a different word than serious.
He doesn’t think is anything “horrible”
https://twitter.com/BallySportWest/status/1419891001326440448?s=19
To him death is not horrible.
I don’t agree btw.
We should try to stay alive as long as we can.
Bullet dodged?
https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2021/07/mets-agreement-with-draft-pick-kumar-rocker-in-jeopardy.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvUZijEuNDQ
all I need to know… “…his advisor Scott Boras…”
This is all Boras
Boras is all this.
Is all this Boras?
All Boras this is
Boras, is this all?
^THIS^
And Boras isn’t even making a fuss about this. If Rocker’s elbow was in any way healthy, he’d be all over the place making the Mets look bad.
I was leery when they said he had a velocity drop. The Bachman pick is looking better all the time.
Perry is a God!
Anxious to hear MarineLayers take.
I was one of the few at the time that wasn’t drinking the “Draft Rocker” kool aid. Knew this would happen.
At least a lot us have admitted that we were totally wrong and Perry did his homework
I never liked Rocker, always liked Bachman. Love our draft class, especially if they can get Silseth to sign.
Only issue is, can we get these kids through our MiLB system without them dying of Ricketts, Scurvy or Dysentery? You know, the Oregon Trail passed through the Tri-Cities and Salt Lake areas….. coincidence?
Some of them have extra GRIT and the will to survive……Like the Donner Party.
So if the entire Angels team was stranded and had to eat two or three team members to survive who would that be?
It would not be Marsh ; not enough meat on his bones.
Aaron Sleggers?
I said it after we passed on Rocker: he will be the first pitcher in the 2021 draft class that will have TJS.
I previously sent the referral to Dr. Nick.
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Wow. How could cheap Arte and stupid Perry pass on this guy? He’s obviously worth a 1st pick and well over slot, especially if you want to improve your pitching right away.
While we’re at it, is anyone still pissed at cheap Arte for not making a bigger effort to sign Steven Strausburgh, who OBVIOUSLY wanted to come back to So Cal if Arte had just ponied up the cash for the guy?
Not with Arte.
Prawbly the Father Serras since he went to Aztec University.
I found a guy on YouTube who Arte’s probably pals with ( Dan Pena ). 😆
Talking about “looking into” the Angels minor league reporting is a non-responsive non-answer, exactly what I would expect from a weak-kneed puppet of Moreno.
And let’s get Detmers up today. Experience trumps service time.
Hey Marine Layer, why do you always seem so overcast and gloomy?
I’m not. I love many recent developments — Sandoval, Marsh, Detmers, Captain Jack, among the recent upgrades. I just see Rendon as Pujols 2.0. Do you think there’s a possibility I’m right?
Whoosh. I think that was a joke.
Yep. “Overcast” etc…
I didn’t see the game, but 4:12 is mindbogglingly unlucky
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpvW2u6cj6U
Took the game from at minimum a bases loaded with one out situation, to 3 outs and no runs across. Sometimes it is truly better to be lucky than good.
they’re all really good
Would just like to say that softball diamond squeezed into a baseball field looks tacky. They completely phoned it in on this one.
These ladies are the best in the world. They deserve a decent field.
Ohtani seems to never walk an opposing hitter where all the other pitchers on the staff love to give a free pass to the first batter up or with two outs and most of the free passes end up scoring. Shohei Ohtani is really Baseball’s version of Superman. There will never be anybody like him ever again. For just one week I would love to have his energy levels even if it killed me, man what a way to go. If he continues this output he is, with respect to Toronto writers, the MVP as we have never seen before.
Sorry guys, but Japan’s ace #17(Ueno) brings the gold medal home in the softball finals.
It took 13years to have the game back in the olympics and the SP matchup in the finals was exactly same(38yo Osterman vs 39yo Ueno) as it was 13years ago at the finals in Beijing.
Pity we won’t have the game again in Paris2024, but hopefully in 2028 it will be back.(Maybe at the new Big A?)
So the Mets are looking for rentals? We can sell them Q and Cishek….
I liked “Not all those pitchers are necessarily healthy or effective, but we’re casting a wide net.” MLBTR telling it like it is.
We should pay them to take Q off our hands !
We could never afford that
RenDone too, or anyone else who would take him.
I’m pretty sure they want guys who are actually good
It’s an interesting thought experiment on what it would take in additional prospects to have someone absorb Hosmer’s contract.
A team that had the revenue streams and urgency to rebuild their farm system would probably find a way to do it. Not all that different than paying bigger salaries to Cuban and Japanese players that had no MLB experience. You’d think that would be us but Arte never would in a million ears.
Would the Padres ever attach someone like Gore in order to move Hosmer and get under the luxury tax?
So Hosmer is approximately the same age as Rendon (31). But unlike the Angels who backload contracts, Hosner’s deal was frontloaded. He’s got one more $21 million season and then three at $13 million.
By contrast – nearly $200m is still owed to Rendon with several $38 million seasons upcoming.
In a never-will-happen situation, if the Pads would take Rendon straight up for Hosmer, that would be a good trade for the Angels. It would cut payroll significantly (almost $20 mill per season) and the Angels would still have a very good third baseman.
I would personally not touch that with a ten-foot bat, $20 mil savings per year notwithstanding. Just leaves us with a lot of problems.
Why? Is Walsh’s injury from last night career threatening? Or Is Shohei going to play RF full time when he’s not pitching? A Hosmer trade makes zero sense to me.
BTW who is this very good third baseman you speak of? Captain Jack? he’s still a 30 year old career .183 batting average with a Looooooong way to go to even be considered replacement level. Over the last 130 years of professional baseball the game has been littered with these type of guys.
So, he’s trash? Our trash.
I’m your Trash. I’m your Trash.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvOPucs7dC0
On the other hand, keeping Rendon is an even bigger long term problem as it gives cheapskate Moreno an excuse to never sign the needed SP1. There must be an expiring contract elsewhere to match up.
Who is this SP1 on the market you are talking about?
Well, Scherzer for one.I don’t know who other rebuilding teams might make available. Not exactly sure who the sellers are.
👍 Just checking
we will see how Scherzer performs vs. contract. I feel about as equally confident in Scherzer over the next few years as I did Rendon pre-signing
The Mariners
Hell, I’m waiting for someone to tell me who we were all set to sign over the last three or four years, you know, that SP1 that was like “I’m pretty interested in LAA”, who Arte didn’t sign due to financial limits. I guess, if we’re desperate enough to be butt hurt on this point, Cole?
Every SP1 that came to market was inundated with a tidal wave of money from either The Dodgers or Yankees, and in most cases both. Those pockets are far deeper than Arte’s. Also, The Yankees and their fans are having buyers remorse on Cole since he can’t use the sticky stuff anymore.
More not wanting to be an Angel I feel
Yeah, I got the sense Cole wanted to be a Yankee and we got in the bidding war… which I don’t really mind. If we wanted Cole, which we did, and we want any other team to pay as much as possible for him if he signs there, then fine, bid up on Cole. Yankees “won”. Theeee Yankees “won”.
Understood – as you know it’s only theoretical. If the Pads would do it, it would save approximately $125m off payroll over 5 seasons and the team would have a viable 3rd baseman in Hosmer. To me that would be too good to be true. $13m per season versus almost $40m per season.
Yes! Just depends how you view them. Hosmer would either bump Walsh to the outfield or just sit on the bench.
Rendon is still a $27M/year player for me.
Don’t know why I thought Hosmer played 3B with KC. That was where my thought process came from.
That’s Moustakas you were thinking about
He was Mistakas about Moustakas
Ah okay, now if Hosmer played 3B, that would actually be a pretty interesting discussion…
Hosmer is not good, very average and expensive. AJ Preller just grabbed and overpaid to get someone to come to his team. We have no 3rd basemen in the pipeline. Don’t let Captain Jack fool you.
Well we know Captain Jack will at least get us by tonight.
It might also help us figure out what it would take to unload Rendon who might still have some perceived value.
We’re all frustrated with how Rendon’s season has developed, but I’m, probably one of the few, who are a bit baffled by the hardline negative positions people are aiming at him. The Pujols situation had/has nothing to do with Rendon, and saying it does is silly.
I’m with you. Many players have had a season lost due to injury. This is Rendon’s.
Unlike Albert we actually know Rendon’s age and he’s a plus defender who depends more on contact than power. I don’t expect us to get peak Rendon, but I don’t expect him to fall off a cliff as quickly as the 35 year old Pujols did after a year.
Don’t think. Just be hardline negative because it distracts you from how much you suck. It totally works for me, it’s why I think all Beagle puppies are assholes and you can’t talk me out of it or make me try to prove it.
Look at that jerk.
There are reports the Padres would attach a top 4 prospect in the deal. In that case, I’d do it if I was Perry as long as I got at least one MLB player next year. And I’d immediately DFA Hosmer as he’s redundant on our roster.
We’re going to pick over the pile of meh for a lot of parts next year, many of them costing $5-10 million each.
We’re probably not going to land Gore, but let’s say we go with Campusano and Ethan Elliot. That’s a stud catcher to pair with then take over for Stassi and a rotation piece with youth and upside.
Would I rather have 2 young players plus Hosmer costing me $14 million next year or two meh veterans costing the same? I’ll take the youngsters.
Hell, while our outfield sucks, play Walsh out there, Hoz at 1B, get the two prospects. Hoz is overpriced, but he’s basically a 100 OPS+ guy worth around 1 WAR. We’ve had worse. Next year have a Trout/Upton/Walsh OF with Hoz at first, trade one of Adell or Marsh for a good SP….. if we got a catcher, a pitcher and say German Marquez (or some good starter) out of all of this and the (dreaming big) signed a guy like DeSclafani…. that’s just not the end of the world.
PLUS, all the grumpy smurfs around here can bitch about Hoz all the time.
If the Angels have been drafting Pitcher heavy for a few years now, why are we not seeing more of them? It is just plain flat out stupid to e-mail death threats, but you can’t fix stupid. What a waste Trevor Bauer is, so glad he worked up the 5.
Good Morning Gang, last night was another win and tonight ditto. Sweep Rox and win the series with Oakland. Trouty will not be flying in to save the day anytime soon as leaping over tall buildings in a single bound can’t be done except for Shohei.