Shohei Ohtani Shuts Down the Best Team in the American League

Angels 5 Red Sox 3

The narrative going into tonight would be that the Japanese phenom who couldn’t get out of the 1st inning in his last start would be taking on his hardest assignment all season. The Boston Red Sox were still in town with the most wins in baseball, and many casual viewers had already turned on the stud.

And for a minute, Ohtani still looked human. A leadoff double was surrendered to Kike Hernandez, who would later come around to score on a sacrifice fly. But the end of the inning did come this time on an impressive or lucky (or both) snag from the mound, and then the game started.

David Fletcher pushed the first pitch he saw from fireballer Nathan Eovaldi down the line to extend his hitting streak, matching the Red Sox half of the inning. Shohei Ohtani had an opportunity to make up for the run he allowed and two pitches later, he cashed in.

With 2 outs, Max Stassi stepped up and did not hesitate to bring the Angels their first lead of the series.

When Ohtani stepped back up on the mound in the 2nd, he was a different man. In typical fashion, he buckled down after the “shaky” first (in which he didn’t allow a hit with runners in scoring position) and cruised until the 6th with efficient placement of his pitches and a focus on inducing catchable contact instead of trying to whiff every guy seen.

Speaking of a notable difference in pitching strategy, Ohtani had a different catcher for the first time in a few months. Magically, 65 of his 89 pitches would be strikes. Must be some kind of coincidence.

But in the 6th, JD Martinez would dump an RBI single into left before Xander Bogaerts stepped up to bat. Ohtani served one up that seemed to spell doom for the night until it didn’t.

This wasn’t your cheapy little Kike Hernandez robbery like last night. This was a running yellow-line leaping robbery. With all of the momentum on the Angels’ side, they would then sort of luck into a few more runs, but the Red Sox were done in spite of a Hunter Renfroe meaningless solo shot in the top of the 9th.

David Fletcher went 4-4, Max Stassi was a triple shy of the cycle, and Ohtani went 7 innings with NO walks allowed. This was precisely the kind of game the Angels needed to make a statement, and make a statement they did.

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bradllee424
Trusted Member
3 years ago

Ohtani is one of the best players I have ever seen in my lifetime.

Simba
Trusted Member
3 years ago
Reply to  bradllee424

One of?

JackFrost
Super Member
3 years ago
Reply to  bradllee424

“One of the best?”

Can you name anyone you’ve seen not named Mike Trout who you think is better ?

AnAngelsFan
Super Member
3 years ago

The only disappointment in this game is Ottavino didn’t get to bat.

Jim Atkins
Super Member
3 years ago

Anybody else think it’s really weird that Fletch still doesn’t have a home run this year? I’m guessing that he is so zeroed in on swinging for contact that that whole modern home run swing mode is just not an option. Not complaining, mind you. Love me some serious Fletch doubles, oh yeah. Just this is a pretty weird statistical anomaly.

MikeSalmon
Super Member
3 years ago

Ohtani was facing Danny Santana in the top of the 5th tonight, and threw a 67 mph curve that Santana looked at for a strike, followed by a 97 mph heater that he swung at and missed.

Tales From the Supernatural.

TheCheetah
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3 years ago
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eyespy
Super Member
3 years ago
Reply to  TheCheetah

When you originally posted the video, I only got a wall of code, but no video. That is why I posted the video below.

Except for the speed of the ball, everything is samesies.

Eric_in_Portland
Legend
3 years ago

Headline of the recap over at “Over the Monster”.

Red Sox 3, Angels 5: This Shohei Ohtani guy seems pretty good

Twebur
Legend
3 years ago

Appreciate your efforts in gathering enemy intel. Always interesting to see that the evil doers are thinking. Well done, look forward to your briefing on those hippy bastards in Seattle.

F**k the Red Soxs!

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Here’s a tough idea to chew on. Say Ohtani is probably able to get 25-32M a year as an FA right now if the season plays out kind of like it has now for him. He’s an FA in 2024. Do you try to extend him now while love is in the air at say 30M AAV? What if he only hits and pitches as often as he does for 2-3 more years? How long do you extend him? While Pujols and Upton come off the books, it is doubtful the Angels can pay Rendon/Trout/Ohtani all that cash and still spring for a single 30M a year pitcher (other than Shohei)… is keeping Ohtani worth having fairly bargain rate pitching and/or betting on developing cheap pitching down the line?

Of coarse the dream is “Extend Ohtani, buy out his remaining pre-arb and arb year at a high rate plus two of his FA years at an AAV of aroun 18-20!” but if that’s your plan then you better hope Ohtani has the worst agent ever or REALLY wants to play here. That’s not a plan, it’s a hope.

So what would you do with this awesome beast?

Chap24
Trusted Member
3 years ago

#1 thing I’d do with him is I’d have him slap Joe for benching Rojas for Ward tonight…🤷🏽‍♂️

Last edited 3 years ago by Chap24
eyespy
Super Member
3 years ago

“A deal is a deal” Mr Moreno

Nothing happens until Spring Training 2023, there is no need to do anything right now.

Shohei will make what ever he earns, and Arte won’t pay until he has to.

Shohei gets traded during ST 2023, and we never need to have him sign a contract.

Eric_in_Portland
Legend
3 years ago
Reply to  eyespy

I don’t like that scenario

JackFrost
Super Member
3 years ago
Reply to  eyespy

Not sure I agree with the final conclusion.

I do however agree with the other points;

a) Arte will not pay until he has to b) nothing significant will happen prior to Spring 2023.

Last edited 3 years ago by JackFrost
2002heaven
Super Member
3 years ago
Reply to  JackFrost

He won’t pay and will let him walk ( can you say Zack Greinke? I knew you could! ).

Fleckstein
Trusted Member
3 years ago

Awesome dilemma to have!

Eric_in_Portland
Legend
3 years ago

If Arte is serious about winning with his major league team he will spend more money.

Other teams blow past the cap and figure out how to play it. Arte can, too.

Or he can hire competent scouts and we can build a farm system to complement Trout and Ohtani.

Senator_John_Blutarsky
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Arte is 74. Respectfully, it’s not unrealistic to give thought to the post-Arte years and what that could mean for the franchise. His day to day involvement will begin to change in the not too distant future

Twebur
Legend
3 years ago

Give him a generous portion of extra cheese before it’s required, hope that will make Sho’ Mo’ likely to want to hang with us at a reasonable rate longer term. It doesn’t exactly seem like his #1 motivation is money, he knows he’ll get paid. Lucky for us Arte seems to be willing to sign off on big contracts to stars. As you stated, probably will limit a big ticket pitcher, might not be a bad thing.

2002heaven
Super Member
3 years ago
Reply to  Twebur

Which is why we need to be like the D-Rays and Indians and grow our own pitchers and let them all walk when they turn 30 as FA’s. Giants found Gausman and DeSclafani by dumpster diving. Yes Farhan Zaidi came from the Oakland A’s and was mentored by none other than Billy Beane.

Eric_in_Portland
Legend
3 years ago

Also…he’ll make $5.5 mil in 2022 and then probably $30 mil in 2023 before he gets to UFA.

WallyChuckChili
Legend
3 years ago

Trade Rendon and Trout

Senator_John_Blutarsky
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The issue for this franchise remains contract durations not AAV. Ohtani is 27. If he can be locked up through his age 32 or 33 season, do it.

Trout is 30, Rendon is 31. We’re already seeing the injuries are more frequent and heal slower for both.

eyespy
Super Member
3 years ago

Them injuries come from years of constant competition to become major leaguers. The abuse on their bodies has finally caught up.

2002heaven
Super Member
3 years ago

And BTW Jered Walsh is already 27.

2002heaven
Super Member
3 years ago

Arte should spend all that money on poaching Farhan Zaidi away or stoop low and go after Jeff Luhnow. Or else he just doesn’t want to win. Waiting for all those rich people to buy season tickets and get in their expensive European SUV’s ( MB, Bayerische Motoren Werke, Volvo, Land Rover ) and go to Cost Plus World Market or Williams Sonoma after losing on Sunday afternoons. Bye!!!!

Last edited 3 years ago by 2002heaven
Chap24
Trusted Member
3 years ago

Oh yea and I might’ve missed it on the game thread…but how disgusting was it that Maddon sat Rojas for Ward after his night last night. Was speechless….unless he got hurt and I missed it.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  Chap24

All it takes is not starting Jose Friggin Rojas to make you speechless?

eyespy
Super Member
3 years ago
Reply to  Chap24

We discussed it on the thread, I was like you but put in my place.

Lefties are batting .040 points higher than righties against Eovaldi. .280ish to .240ish, but in the end, it made no diff.

https://youtu.be/2xAJVri2a1U

Chap24
Trusted Member
3 years ago
Reply to  eyespy

Yea I figured it was Sosh Jr. overthinking it again. Ward has been struggling. Rojas looked locked in last night. Try and ride it out man..🤦🏽‍♂️Anyways got the win. So whatever.

Senator_John_Blutarsky
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Reply to  Chap24

Any team that has to choose between either Ward or Rojas in the starting lineup is not expecting to play into October.

Chap24
Trusted Member
3 years ago

Nice win boys! Ohtani impressed me even more today. Seemed like it was his B stuff and he battled. Love to see it. Taking the kid tmmrw. He was disappointed that it might be a scheduled loss with Heaney but can’t miss a chance to see the SHO live!

Twebur
Legend
3 years ago
Reply to  Chap24

Hope he hits tomorrow, talk of day off, combining it with the off day Thursday. He’s a machine, doesn’t need any rest!

Him DH’ing everyday saves a lot of wear and tear. Don’t think they should ever try to get him in the field other than to extend his hitting when pitching. Definitely get him more comfortable in the OF but save his energy at DH.

Eric_in_Portland
Legend
3 years ago

A great game for two way sensation Shohei Ohtani.

That’s what I’m calling him now, like the national media does.

eyespy
Super Member
3 years ago

Shohei rolls both ways, nothing wrong with that, unless you are on the other team

DowningDude
Legend
3 years ago
Reply to  eyespy

That must be so hard to deal with … glad i don’t have to worry about that.

Brent
Super Member
3 years ago

Fuck yeah (july). Watched from a bar in Phoenix where all but one tv was on the suns game. So fun.

eyespy
Super Member
3 years ago

Being that Ohtani saved some for tomorrow, maybe he will be able to face that Boston Biotch and sho him who’s daddy

Rallymanatee
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3 years ago

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DowningDude
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3 years ago
Reply to  Rallymanatee

The Jawa at the right is posting on Crashing the Pearly Gates?

eyespy
Super Member
3 years ago
Reply to  DowningDude

rez?

Christianhanson
Trusted Member
3 years ago

Also Boston sb nation called Otto’s words last night classless, respect

Eric_in_Portland
Legend
3 years ago

I remember when we were average. Now we’re a winning club.

...Rev Halofan
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Trusted Member
3 years ago

Score one for Perry:

JUAN LAGARES OF
February 11, 2021: Signed as a Free Agent with the Los Angeles Angels.

WallyChuckChili
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3 years ago
Reply to  ...Rev Halofan

Lagares Bogarting Xanders HR

red floyd
Legend
3 years ago

You stole that, you thief!!!  😆 

Christianhanson
Trusted Member
3 years ago

Did it just occur to anyone else that Ohtani doesn’t speak English so he didn’t hear Ottavino yesterday? Is that a possibility? Just wondering friends

Eric_in_Portland
Legend
3 years ago

Ippei does

Christianhanson
Trusted Member
3 years ago

yeah but he wasn’t on the field when it was said

DowningDude
Legend
3 years ago

There’s a mini-Ippei who sits on Shohei’s shoulder … he was there.

eyespy
Super Member
3 years ago
Reply to  DowningDude

Nah. Shohei is so good, he sits on his own shoulders, both the right and left, and both are unbelievably great.

eyespy
Super Member
3 years ago

Shohei speaks and understands on the field English just fine. Ippe is there for the interviews so he doesn’t get is quoted.

Eric_in_Portland
Legend
3 years ago
Reply to  eyespy

Then screw that Ottavino!

WallyChuckChili
Legend
3 years ago

Trout said Ohtani speaks English

Christianhanson
Trusted Member
3 years ago

gotchu

LanaBanana
Super Member
3 years ago

What did Ottabino say? I missed it.

red floyd
Legend
3 years ago
Reply to  LanaBanana

He yelled “Happy Birthday, bitch” to Ohtani.

LanaBanana
Super Member
3 years ago
Reply to  red floyd

Whoa. Extremely classless.

Eric_in_Portland
Legend
3 years ago
Reply to  LanaBanana

Ottavino had just pitched poorly, almost blew the game, was saved by the shift, having had his pitch to two way sensation Shohei Ohtani blasted where there’d normally be a hole, and, feeling his own manhood threatened, acted like he did something good.

Last edited 3 years ago by Eric_in_Portland
John Henry Weitzel
Editor
Super Member
3 years ago

Ohtani knows English, he learned it at school. He has an interpreter because he isn’t fluent and it makes sure that there isn’t any miscommunications in vital situations.

Fleckstein
Trusted Member
3 years ago

To be fair, all Japanese “learn” English at school, but it is taught about as well has high school Spanish in the States. But yeah, if he heard him over the screaming Sux fans I’m sure he understood that simple phrase.

I like ground-ball Shohei! Made for a quick game, and he pitched late In a game for once.

John Henry Weitzel
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Super Member
3 years ago

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DowningDude
Legend
3 years ago

Lost in all of this was some Fletch awesomeness.

WallyChuckChili
Legend
3 years ago
Reply to  DowningDude

All he did was go 4 for 4.

Fansince1971
Legend
3 years ago

Serious awesomeness

Jessica DeLine
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Super Member
3 years ago

That was glorious. All hail Ohtani! Oh, and that gold glove guy.

FungoAle
Legend
3 years ago
Reply to  Jessica DeLine

We lost our other gold glover last week, so Larages is carrying all the metal.

Fansince1971
Legend
3 years ago

Both games arguably determined by an outfielder robbing 2-run HRs.