03/13/2021 Angels @ White Sox Spring Training Gamethread

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Cowboy26
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3 years ago

Stop whining about our top minor league players’ lack of fundamentals. These are millennials and Generation Z’ers. They don’t have time for that shit

Last edited 3 years ago by Cowboy26
Mia
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3 years ago
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Everyone born after 1981 doesn’t care about fundamentals? The game is DOOMED.

Fansince1971
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3 years ago

There should be a stat re looking at a strike 3 with RISP. Drives me crazy. Swing the bat!

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Turk's Teeth
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3 years ago

Pretty atrocious fundamentals there from the Angels’ top two draft picks from 2016.

Fansince1971
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3 years ago
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Thaiss for sure. But Marsh was 2nd round in 2017 right?

Turk's Teeth
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3 years ago
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No, he was 2016 too. Canning was second round in 2017.

Fansince1971
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3 years ago
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Then Thais must have been 2015. He was a Dipoto pick.

Marsh was in the Adell draft I think.

Turk's Teeth
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3 years ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

No, I promise you, both were Eppler picks in ’16. I did the HH draft coverage that year.

Fansince1971
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3 years ago
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You are totally right. My bad. Don’t know how I got confused. My brain is not working right.

Turk's Teeth
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3 years ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

Totally fine. Most people don’t rathole obsessively on MiLB prospects and draft classes like I do, and I still mutter underbreath about lost opportunities.

FWIW, Dakota Hudson was my desiref pick when Thaiss was selected, but I was fine with the Marsh pick.

Fansince1971
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3 years ago
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Dakota Hudson would have been the right pick not just because of his success but the Angels needed pitching. It’s one thing to get it wrong. It’s another to get it fundamentally wrong.

Cowboy26
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3 years ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

Dakota Johnson would have been better.

Fansince1971
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3 years ago
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Wow….what a wasted 1st round pick in 2016!

Turk's Teeth
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3 years ago
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Well, to be fair, the next two selections (Whitley, Rutherford) have never made it out of the minors. The only teams that followed the Angels and nailed their first round selections were the Dodgers (Lux AND Smith) and the Cards (Hudson).

Still a lot of runway for Trammell and the college pitchers though (Dunn, Sheffield, Dunning, Kay, Layer, Zeuch). And the last thing the Angels needed in that draft was a first baseman with fringe power (Thaiss was always unlikely to stick at catcher).

Fansince1971
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3 years ago
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Yeah it’s not the failed pick as much as the thought process behind the pick seems to be so wrong.

Turk's Teeth
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3 years ago
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In his first four drafts, Eppler had eight chances to expend a selection in the top two rounds (where almost all the value is) on a pitcher. He only did so once: Griffin Canning.

To date, it’s the only selection that has panned out. Luckily in Eppler draft five we got Detmers.

Here’s hope he and Rodriguez also come through, and one of his prep bats puts it all together in the coming years.

FungoAle
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3 years ago
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Thaiss along with Senzel had the highest regarded hit tool in the draft that year. It just has not carried over yet for either of them, along with the No.1 selection Moniak. Maybe never will. I never have an issue grabbing a highly regarded bat over an arm. Higher success rate. None of the arms that year have made a large imprint in the majors to date, Ian Anderson just became relevant down the stretch last year for the Braves. It’s unfortunate Thaiss has not worked out.

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Fansince1971
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3 years ago

Thaiss is awful. Nothing like looking at 2 strikes to end the game. I score that 2 backwards Ks in one AB.

Turk's Teeth
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3 years ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

With a man on third and no chance to walk in a run!

That’s some arrogant Baby Einstein shit right there.

Fansince1971
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3 years ago
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I dislike him as a player. I even dislike the way you are supposed to pronounce his name. Like The-Ice.

John Henry Weitzel
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3 years ago

Ughhhhhhhhhh

Fansince1971
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3 years ago

Come on Thais. Deep fly ball all that is needed.

John Henry Weitzel
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3 years ago

Tying run at 3rd!

Senator_John_Blutarsky
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4 lousy hits

John Henry Weitzel
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3 years ago

5

John Henry Weitzel
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3 years ago

TrAdition

Turk's Teeth
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3 years ago

Outside of that one pitch, it was a very nice outing for Detmers. Not worried.

Fansince1971
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3 years ago
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Like the way he came back strong. Dudes hit Dingerz. It happens.

Fansince1971
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3 years ago

I’ve been mostly pleased as punch by the Angels this Spring. Ohtani pitched well today – it was kind of a hard luck situation. He definitely was better than 5 runs in two innings.

Honestly, the only real bummer to me of this off-season has been Adell. His defense does not look at all improved. He does not look like a natural fielder. I personally would keep him in the minors for at least another year maybe two. He has a long long long way to go before he is a major league outfielder.

Last edited 3 years ago by Fansince1971
John Henry Weitzel
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3 years ago
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Yeah, Adell is behind the other 2 at being ready for OF defense. Offense too to be honest.

Turk's Teeth
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3 years ago

It’s amazing to think that Rodriguez has been with the Angels five years and has only pitched 78 innings total in that time.

Eric_in_Portland
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3 years ago
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if this were 1961 he’d have been through long ago but doctors have figured some stuff out since then.

Fansince1971
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3 years ago
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Lots and LOTS of physical problems.

Cowboy26
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3 years ago
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But that arm is FRESH!

Fansince1971
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3 years ago

Really liking what I’m seeing from Rodriguez.

John Henry Weitzel
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3 years ago
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Makes me hope for the future rotation

Fansince1971
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3 years ago

Yep. I’d like him to make the team as a reliever.

Turk's Teeth
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3 years ago
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Oh…not me. This is the first frontline starter prospect the Angels have had since Richards. I want to see him stretched out and pitching every five days. They can always convert him to relief if that fails, or bring him up early fall if the Angels are in contention.

I’d rather see them break camp with Sandoval or Suarez in the bullpen if they want to convert some of the existing depth to the BP.

Turk's Teeth
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3 years ago
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Still believe he’s the Angels’ top prospect (certainly in terms of ceiling) if he can have one fully healthy season.

Turk's Teeth
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3 years ago

Rodriguez is a beast.

John Henry Weitzel
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3 years ago

FSW camera is acting very Angels and needs TJ

Turk's Teeth
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3 years ago

Wonder if they start C-Rod and Detmers in AA to start the season.

angelslogic
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3 years ago

Listened to two minutes of the game and then realized: I MISS VICTOR!

Turk's Teeth
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3 years ago

Claudio is junky… in a good way. Hadn’t really seen much of him in previous seasons.

John Henry Weitzel
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3 years ago

5-4 is still and improvement.

Brent
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3 years ago

I know it’s only ST, but… the Sox are 1-8. The Angels should be beating them pretty good, seeing as this is nearly an opening day lineup and rotation today.

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John Henry Weitzel
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3 years ago
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Ummm… Walsh is the only one who is a starter today. Maybe Lagares if they pick right. That is it. White Sox has their A team out there.

Turk's Teeth
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3 years ago
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It’s all minor leaguers and reserves among the hitters, and the runs surrendered were in large part due to defensive miscues from same.

Last edited 3 years ago by Turk's Teeth
John Henry Weitzel
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3 years ago
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And Ohtani was going up vs their starters.

Turk's Teeth
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3 years ago

He was fine (more than fine) until Adell got klutzy.

That said, Shohei needs to adjust and not meltdown after any and every defensive mishap.

John Henry Weitzel
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3 years ago
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Yeah, that is what I worry about him. That and injury

Fansince1971
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3 years ago
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Angels are playing with their B- team and Whitesox started their starters. Young kids are hanging in there!

Cowboy26
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3 years ago

Now thats trAdition right there.

John Henry Weitzel
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3 years ago
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:/

John Henry Weitzel
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3 years ago

A RUN!

Turk's Teeth
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3 years ago

Would that 400+ ft Walsh sac fly have been a grand slam with the old baseballs?

John Henry Weitzel
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3 years ago
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Prolly