LA Angels Thursday News Crash- Will Bundy Regress?

Fangraphs apparently projects Dylan Bundy to drop down in war from 5.4 to 2.3.  What do you think? Will Bundy regress? Dylan Bundy photo credit: Rex Fregosi.

Guys With Minor League Deals

Jed Lowrie got a minor league deal.  He’s back with the Athletics.  Our old friend Matt Joyce has a minor league deal with the Phillies.  Right handed relief pitcher Brandon Kintzler has a minor league deal with the Phillies that could turn into a lot of money if he breaks camp with the big club.  Right handed pitcher Stetson Allie has a minor league contract with the Tampa Bay Rays with an invitation to spring training. 

Other Links

The Rangers signed right handed pitcher Mike Foltynewicz to a one year deal worth $2 Million.  Blake Parker has three different offers on the table.  Where will he end up?  Regarding deadening the baseball, David Price says “lol pitchers knew all along!!” 

And Finally:

This is Max Schreck as Count Orlok from the 1922 film Nosferatu.

The Reds claimed infielder Max Schrock off waivers from the Cubs.  Man that guy must be old! (I’m sorry. I couldn’t resist.)

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steelgolf
Super Member
3 years ago

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2021/02/angels-sign-jon-jay-to-minor-league-contract.html

Well, they signed Jon Jay, so they are building a 2014 team.

steelgolf
Super Member
3 years ago
Reply to  Charles Sutton

I expect to get that email tomorrow hyping Jon Jay and his past accomplishments.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend
Reply to  steelgolf

Well. We will have some outfielders.

red floyd
Legend
3 years ago

Sounds almost like a TAME saying.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend
Reply to  red floyd

His ways are strong with me.

WallyChuckChili
Legend
3 years ago
Reply to  steelgolf

Rather of signed Goodwin on that minors deal

HalosFanForLife
Trusted Member
3 years ago
Reply to  steelgolf

We are cleaning up. The Hot Stove has reached boiling temperature.

Eric_in_Portland
Legend
3 years ago
Reply to  steelgolf

The new plan will be a 6 man outfield with only a 1b, a catcher and pitcher. No, wait a second…a 1b, a 3b and a catcher. No pitcher.

Cowboy26
Legend
3 years ago

Instead of a real Catcher how about a player formerly known as a catcher? we got a lot of those

HalosFanForLife
Trusted Member
3 years ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

If we found a Kiner-Falefa out of the deal, that would be good. His story is awesome and so rare these days.

FungoAle
Legend
3 years ago
Reply to  steelgolf

Nothing against John Jay, he was a niece piece years ago. I’m starting to feel Joe is calling the shots which is unfortunate as Jay is an ex-Cubbie. To me, just another OF to add to the bone pile. Maybe Joe will tell Perry next year how well Baez and Rizzo would fit in next year.

HalosFanForLife
Trusted Member
3 years ago
Reply to  FungoAle

Baez is inconsistent at the plate, but man is he fun to watch. I’m expecting a big bounce-back year from him this year. The price is going to be steep next year for all the amazing 6’s becoming free agents. I think Lindor is staying in NY, but the quality of guys that are coming available is as good as almost any SS’s that have ever played. Trevor Story, who’s going to be out of our range, isn’t flashy, but he’s a total stud on both sides of the ball. (I expect him to go to the Rangers next year and they’ll move Kiner-Falefa to 3rd). The SS position has never been so stacked. That Simmons doesn’t even get mentioned as a top SS or in All-Star conversations and would have been the perennial ASG starter in other eras, says so much.

Cowboy26
Legend
3 years ago

Yep we’ll get ’em next year.

red floyd
Legend
3 years ago
Reply to  steelgolf

Great, now we’ve got a 200 years dead Chief Justice of the Supreme Court on the team.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  red floyd

gold

h27kim
Trusted Member
3 years ago
Reply to  steelgolf

We had a Hamilton and now a Jay. If we can find a useless Madison, we’ll have all the federalists covred.

2002heaven
Super Member
3 years ago
Reply to  steelgolf

Somehow I get the feeling that Billy Beane is having a belly laff at our expense every winter and spring…..are we Wile E. Coyote to the Roadrunner or the Washington Generals to the Globetrotters? 😥 

steelgolf
Super Member
3 years ago
Reply to  2002heaven

Definitely the Washington Generals.

DMAGZ13
Trusted Member
3 years ago

Bundy is not an ace. Not tossing low 90s. He’s good for 3 war this season if he stays healthy, gives us 6 innings a start and does not get shelled with big innings. He’s likely to have a Heaney- like season. But if he can do that, that’s still better than the pitching we got in ‘19.

Basically, don’t consider anyone an ace. Ignore where they are in the rotation order. These guys are all #3-#5 starters. The only guy that has ability to be a shut down starter is Ohtani but he’s limited in appearance. Therefore the strategy is that every game you get a pitcher who will keep you in the game through 5 innings or two-times through.

I mean in all honesty that’s a big upgrade. We’ve had seasons with only 2-3 reliable starters.

But then they still need to fortify the pen. If starters give you 800-850 innings then you need a better pen.

Last edited 3 years ago by DMAGZ13
JackFrost
Super Member
3 years ago
Reply to  DMAGZ13

Well said. I agree with pretty much all of it.

HalosFanForLife
Trusted Member
3 years ago

These predictions are about as reliable as a 1980’s weather man. So I have a prediction and I’m going to go out on a limb- he won’t have the predicted WAR. It will be either higher or lower. (And of course he might live up to his being the overall #4 pick in the draft too.)

Cowboy26
Legend
3 years ago

Are your predictions as accurate as these guys? : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lTVohhONFg

HalosFanForLife
Trusted Member
3 years ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

And I thought getting Rick Rolled was bad. LMAO. I’m scared you had that as a back of the brain resource for you Cowboy. Is there something you want to tell us. LOL.

My predictions are as accurate as a stopped clock. I’m right twice a day.

Last edited 3 years ago by HalosFanForLife
Cowboy26
Legend
3 years ago

Nah man, everyone knows the 80’s were the golden age of music. We could probably do a whole post on forgotten OHW bands and their classic videos . Heres todays special:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gsRWhq1uIc

cookmeister
Trusted Member
3 years ago

I don’t think there is going to be as much regression as people might think for mainly 1 reason:

Last year the Angels only saw teams out of the west. This year we will get back to seeing the Central and East divisions, and I think not throwing against the same teams over and over again will help to mitigate the regression.

2002heaven
Super Member
3 years ago
Reply to  cookmeister

you mean like that other team up the freeway? LMFAO!!
We could’ve played them 30 times last season and still got swept. The ALW was clearly the worst division in MLB last season……worse than the NFC East in the NFL last season. We would’ve lost 100 games in a regular Covid free 162 game season last season…..that makes sense when your team is MLB’s worst farm system in the 2010’s decade……
Mike Trout, David Fletcher and????

GrandpaBaseball
Legend
3 years ago

What we need to achieve a goal of making the Playoffs this season is for everyone to have good to career years with timely hitting. We have all seen the Mets (Twice), the Marlins, the Dodgers (’88), and others get hot in October to pull off a Miracle Team. The Angels in ’02 were a Wild Card team and the odds were against them but big years and getting hot in September and October can happen is the point. Bundy could be the next the next Washburn. On the first day of the season all teams are equal. But a team will pull together and surprise all who are not looking, but we are looking and we may just see something of Magical proportions take place.

WallyChuckChili
Legend
3 years ago

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Cowboy26
Legend
3 years ago

Hope at the cusp of spring training is eternal

Jeff Joiner
Editor
Legend
3 years ago

Of course I expect regression. Bundy had an insanely hot month to start the season then cooled off substantially.

I also expect Quintana to greatly outproduce Teheran last year, though, making the staff as a whole better.

Still would’ve been nice to add a guy to slot above Bundy rather than two who slot quite a ways below.

Jessica DeLine
Admin
Super Member
3 years ago

Bundy had a career year last year and that’s a bit easier to accomplish in a short season. So yeah, I expect some regression but he’s also in his prime so no reason to believe he’s not capable of 4 WAR give or take.

AnAngelsFan
Super Member
3 years ago

I’m expecting 3.3 – 3.5 WAR from Bundy, but neither 2 not 5 is outside the range of reasonable expectations.

JackFrost
Super Member
3 years ago

Kudos on the Nosferatu find!

red floyd
Legend
3 years ago
Reply to  JackFrost

Are we sure that csutton isn’t talking about this guy?

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Last edited 3 years ago by red floyd
steelgolf
Super Member
3 years ago
Reply to  Charles Sutton

 😂 

Designerguy
Super Member
3 years ago
Reply to  JackFrost

Not pleased that some paparazzi sold you my photo.

Sigh. I can’t even step out to get the mail without some photographer snapping away…

WallyChuckChili
Legend
3 years ago
Reply to  Designerguy

Which is why Alex Curry is aways at my house

Designerguy
Super Member
3 years ago

That’s not what she said this morning, Trebek.

WallyChuckChili
Legend
3 years ago
Reply to  Designerguy

I am curious to hear the excuse she used when she got back to your house this morning

red floyd
Legend
3 years ago

[Laughing at both of you, because Alex just left here 5 minutes ago…]

WallyChuckChili
Legend
3 years ago
Reply to  red floyd

Check your Frig.

I told her to go Grocery Shopping

JackFrost
Super Member
3 years ago

I brought up the Bundy regression topic a couple of months ago, and then again a few days ago ( perhaps this is where you got the idea for the post??)

Anyway, as previously stated, I DO believe we will see a regression in 2021. I still like Bundy, but I don’t think we’ll get 2020 numbers from him.

This is especially unfortunate considering the organization’s failure to bring in even a single QUALITY starter.

Silly me, I was hoping for two!!

WallyChuckChili
Legend
3 years ago
Reply to  JackFrost

I brought up Bundy’s regression when he was slipping out of CY talks. (I think this is where you all got these ideas from!)

JackFrost
Super Member
3 years ago

Ha ha. Maybe so. It was as unconscious influence. Actually, I think several of us were talking about this last year…

Fansince1971
Legend
3 years ago

Bundy arguably had a career season last year. I don’t think it is unreasonable to believe he will regress a bit from there. But he might also improve. So Fangraphs is a guess from which people build fantasy baseball teams.

Commander_Nate
Member
Trusted Member
3 years ago

That FanGraph’s projection also has people like Darvish, Abreu, Yastrzemski, Goldschmidt, Bieber, Marquez, and more dropping by around 50% in WAR this season, sometimes drastically more.

Yeah, right. I think FanGraphs just doesn’t like people.

Last edited 3 years ago by Commander_Nate
Senator_John_Blutarsky
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Although ERA is not the end-all, be-all performance metric: Bundy’s ERA was 2.84 in July 2020, August 2.32, and September was 4.91. I believe reality was setting in as the season progressed.
There’s no basis from prior performance to expect ERA in the 2.30 – 2.90 range from Bundy full season. If we get an ERA in the low 4.00 range from Bundy in 2021, we should be thrilled.