LA Angels Weekend News Crash: Identifying Pieces

You all know there are two things I absolutely love: Spring Training and beating Boston. This week was a mix of the two. So I am a pretty happy guy right now.

Yes, the Angels were the first AL team to be officially eliminated from the playoffs but this lost year seems a lot different. There is finally a plan in place to win.

Yes, Kroenke has a history of winning but he also has a history of letting his executives build solid foundations. In looking at his other franchises, I wonder if Kroenke will get Mike Trout back to the playoffs.

But I do think there are some nice pieces in place for the rebuild. The Pirates series was a loss but it also highlighted the strong rotation.

Which brings me to two current cogs in the machine. Zach Neto mashed in Boston.

Since August 1st, Neto has been on a solid roll. He will easily repeat his 20/20 season and despite the K’s is sitting at 4.4 bWAR on the year. Neto could be the real deal at shortstop for years to come. If the Angels think that, and they obviously value him highly enough to keep him at the trade deadline, they should extend him before he gets expensive. But then there’s Arjun Nimmala crushing it in AA.

Of course, I think the Angels probably overshot their demands with Boston and should have taken the package the Sox sent to Baltimore for Adley Rutschman. I get it, Mo wanted Franklin Arias, but the package for Rutschman vaults the Angels into a top 10 farm system and lands them a future front of the rotation arm in Eyanson.

Neto playing better down the stretch will drive up his extension cost. It might also drive up his trade value. How the Angels handle extending or trading him will be huge for the rebuild.

The same goes for Reid Detmers who has pitched like an ace for a full half season at this point. Detmers value is sky high after yet another pair of dominant performances since last weekend’s links.

Back to the rebuild, take a look at this:

That swing is so smooth. Meanwhile, the Trash Pandas stars are doing great and Gavin Grahovac’s long balls are making fans happy.

At the MLB level Ryan Johnson has strung together a very solid run. Is he legit?

Because it is becoming more and more apparent Walbert Urena is legit. The kid shut down the Yankees and Pirates this week as the clear B side in each pitching match up.

Perry Minasian definitely had more misses than hits, but he is leaving the Angels with some solid pieces for the rebuild. Wade Meckler was his ultimate waiver wire parting gift.

One of those pieces has been ripped quite a bit up until this point, but Tyler Bremner is doing well in Rocket City.

Bottom line, this group of fans is smart enough to realize the end results don’t really matter right now and it feels great writing for you. The instant feedback is great but also the focus is on the right thing: the future.

So, please enjoy your weekend and link what I missed. I’m going to see my family and dear friends this weekend which makes me a happy guy. Next week is the last homestand for the Angels this season and I plan on going to three of the games and I know others in the group will attend as well. So let us know if you will be around the Big A down in the comments below.

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Eric_in_Portland
Legend
7 hours ago

I started the season irrationally pessimistic, predicting a 39-123 record. Now I’m irrationally optimistic about 2028, predicting a wild card spot.

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
7 hours ago

Big highs and lows

Mikeal1st
Trusted Member
9 hours ago

WOndering if the Angels kept Neto because they want to compete sooner rather than later with this new ownership coming in. If so, wouldn’t that mean spending on free agents (hopefully with smarter signings) soon?

milehigh
Trusted Member
8 hours ago
Reply to  Mikeal1st

Not sure what money would be used. Ownership transfer won’t happen till first qtr next year according to press releases, IIRC. Arte isn’t going to use his money.

Mo was greedy in wanting Arias and Boston had no intention of giving him up. That’s why Neto is still here. I don’t recall the timeline of when Nimmala was acquired and if Mo changed the tune about asking for Arias afterwards.

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
8 hours ago
Reply to  milehigh

That was the right thing to do.

Turk's Teeth
Editor
Legend
8 hours ago
Reply to  milehigh

Was he “greedy” or simply rational? I probably would have accepted the Adley package, but it’s not a slam dunk. 4-5 WAR shortstops don’t grow on trees, even if there are lots of future risk factors with Neto.

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
7 hours ago
Reply to  Turk's Teeth

And I believe he would have been a great match for Boston.

FungoAle
Legend
8 hours ago
Reply to  milehigh

Breslow valued Abrams and De La Cruz more than a Neto. It was rumored he was read to send Arias to the Reds for Elly.

cookmeister
Trusted Member
8 hours ago
Reply to  Mikeal1st

They kept him because he has 3 years left and no team met the asking price. Pretty simple

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  Mikeal1st

No. Not really. There are no smart FA signings right now…. at least none that will make us stand up and giggle.

FungoAle
Legend
10 hours ago

Heard it reported on Halo Territory, that it took Mozeliak to approach Zach “too cool” Neto after a game to get on him for lack of hustle and pimping his deep fly balls. My question to you all, is this the player to lead or build around this team? I know where I stand on this topic.

TrojanBoiler
Super Member
10 hours ago
Reply to  FungoAle

I wouldn’t be surprised if that’s true. I’ve been saying all year that Zach’s bad play is probably partially due to feckless absent leadership from Suzuki. Zach needs someone riding his ass to stay focused.

That being said, he is not a cornerstone player. More of a Pippen than a Jordan, IMO.

RexFregosi
Legend
7 hours ago
Reply to  FungoAle

He’s a good ballplayer but also a knucklehead.

He needs Wash badly.

And why is the GM having to tell him this instead of the Field Manager and Coaching Staff??!?!???! Ideally a veteran player could have spelled it out too.

Zuk should be shown the door in 16 days.

Stanley – go get Pat Murphy! He won’t stand for crap like that.

Neto needs a big brother to kick his ass, not necessarily to be traded.

2pints
Super Member
10 hours ago

Once Nimmala comes up they can move Neto to either 3B or 2B, if they don’t trade him. A good problem to have.

RexFregosi
Legend
11 hours ago

On Bremner, I was mildly surprised no one mentioned him yesterday as a candidate for MiLB Pitcher of the Year. He’s definitely a candidate too because of his pedigree as well as his performance. I wouldn’t complain if they picked him.

grichmanpoorman
Trusted Member
10 hours ago
Reply to  RexFregosi

Those post-season org awards are more stat-driven than potential-driven… and his numbers were sort of middling (4 wins, 4.33 ERA).

TrojanBoiler
Super Member
10 hours ago
Reply to  RexFregosi

Probably would have been mentioned if he didn’t miss half the season with whatever fatigue/sickness thing he had going on.

Turk's Teeth
Editor
Legend
9 hours ago
Reply to  RexFregosi

72.2 innings pitched – averaged less than 4 innings per appearance. More of an appetizer than a full meal this season.

Texan44
Trusted Member
11 hours ago

This article is from January and didn’t age well. Losing 100 games and getting high draft picks is the easy part. Please remember a “rebuild” may have some unplanned pitfalls. (72-75 and 59-88 so far in last 8 months). But it MUST be done. Smile.

https://www.justbaseball.com/mlb/which-franchise-rebuilds-are-closest-to-completion-2026/

smithy610
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TapatioMan
Trusted Member
13 hours ago

Per MLBTR –

“Japanese news outlets as Sanspo and the Yakyu Cosmopolitan recently listed the Mets, Blue Jays, Yankees, Padres, White Sox, Cubs, Angels, Mariners, and Rangers as just some of the teams scouting Taira’s recent starts”

Edit: Okay, this part is hilarious: “Taira is 5’8″ and 220 pounds, and his build has been described as “catcherly” (as per Fangraphs’ scouting report) and “forged in the shape of a fire hydrant” (from Passan).”

Last edited 13 hours ago by TapatioMan
TapatioMan
Trusted Member
13 hours ago
Reply to  TapatioMan

Sounds like a create a player pitcher I’d make on MLB the show.

steelgolf
Legend
13 hours ago
Reply to  TapatioMan

Why not describe him as a short David Wells or Bartolo Colon?

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

We can get our own fat pussy toad….

RexFregosi
Legend
7 hours ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

Mike Trout was much better when we were calling him fat too.

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Legend
12 hours ago
Reply to  TapatioMan

Why not just say: “he’s built for comfort, not for speed”

or

he’s certified chonk”

or

he’s giga-sized”

Last edited 12 hours ago by Senator_John_Blutarsky
Pineapple12
Legend
15 hours ago

2020 draft class
Reid Detmers 12.8 WAR (4th)
— controllable thru 2028

2021 draft class
Chase Silseth 1.8 WAR (35th)
— traded for Angel Arredondo
Sam Bachman 0.3
— controllable thru 2030
Luke Murphy -0.1
— controllable thru 2032

2022 draft class
Zach Neto 16.3 WAR (1st)
— controllable thru 2029
Wade Meckler 2.1 (21st)
— controllable thru 2031
Ben Joyce 1.4 (26th)
— controllable thru 2029
Samy Natera 1.0 (31st)
— controllable thru 2032
Victor Mederos 0.1
— traded for international bonus pool $
Caden Dana -0.9
— controllable thru 2031

2023 draft class
Nolan Schanuel 4.8 WAR (4th)
— controllable thru 2029

2024 draft class
Christian Moore -0.7 WAR (21st / 2nd to last)
— controllable thru 2031
Ryan Johnson -1.0 (22nd / last)
— controllable thru 2031

steelgolf
Legend
13 hours ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

I expect Ryan Johnson’s -1.0 will rise quickly next season.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend
Reply to  steelgolf

His pitch mix is getting pretty good now, and he’s less lost out of the stretch.

RexFregosi
Legend
11 hours ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

Thanks for compiling. Interesting look.

Texan44
Trusted Member
15 hours ago

Neto is 25 and already has 16 WAR. He is not a problem to fix. Meckler gets another season in left to see if he is real and should leadoff with .373 OBP. not bat 3rd with .388 SLG. Trout (DH) is staying and batting 2nd or 3rd even with what for him is diminished numbers. And Schanuel is staying for next year with Meckler-like power. THAT’S IT. All other positions should be up for grabs and hoping that a couple newbies will drop one/some of those above down in the batting order. When I look at the FA list, as a casual observer, I see several that I would “negotiate” with starting with ONLY one or two year deals and ONLY if you are under 32 years of age. I don’t expect White Sox type turnaround (60 victories to 75+ wins) but when you are in a weak division, a few small changes and you can improve.

jco
Trusted Member
jco
14 hours ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

I agree in general on Trout. I think he may be the type of player at this point who needs to rest a bit. If I’m the Angels, I’d be looking to have him play about 3 out of 4 days with two of those at DH and 1 in LF.

My hope at this point is that he can become an end of career Brian Downing.

RexFregosi
Legend
11 hours ago
Reply to  jco

my preference is Mike gets as much bWAR as he can. CF is best for that if he isn’t making a mess of it with negative WAR there.

Born_in_59
Trusted Member
7 hours ago
Reply to  RexFregosi

I’d agree with you except that his defense lowers the total enough that he might as well be a pure DH.

TapatioMan
Trusted Member
13 hours ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

Like the idea of trading Nolan.

I think I’d shoot for Bauers instead of Lowe, however.

Both have shown downside, with Bauers a much higher ceiling. It’d be a gamble though, but winning those types of small risks could be huge.

Assuming Bauers doesn’t receive a QO.

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
13 hours ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

I would like to see Neto and Schanuel traded. Neither is going to be part of our rebuild. Having either one or both be really good while they’re cheap and we aren’t good doesn’t help. 2027is a wash and 2028 is another transition year. Maybe by 2029 we’ll be closer to where we want to be. It’s painful, but that’s the truth.

toad2065
Trusted Member
12 hours ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

Yes, get Trout out of center. But also drop him to fifth in the batting order. Love him, but he’s washed. Definite no on both Lowe boys.

Born_in_59
Trusted Member
11 hours ago
Reply to  toad2065

Trout currently had an OBP of .375, which is 4th best in the AL and can still run the bases. How does dropping him in the order, where their impact is minimized, help the team? I would think that keeping Trout 2nd in the order is the best spot for him, or am I overlooking something?.

FungoAle
Legend
10 hours ago
Reply to  Born_in_59

For 2026, makes sense to me that Trout in the 2-hole, this is the right move. Process of elimination. But in 2027 forward, agree with Toad, Angels need to push him down to 5 or 6 (better to me as the 5-hole is typically a power/RBI slot).

Born_in_59
Trusted Member
7 hours ago
Reply to  FungoAle

Is this because you think he’ll stop drawing walks and his speed will crumble next year? I would argue with the way things currently stand the team should bat him first rather than lower in the order.

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
6 hours ago
Reply to  Born_in_59

I agree, with Meckler hitting 2nd and a RH after Meckler.

FungoAle
Legend
12 hours ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

Trout should not be a candidate in LF or RF. Shuffling the Titanic chairs.

Angels2020Champs
Member
Legend
15 hours ago

Charles, JHW & JJ links are worth the read everyday! Pretty excited to be in Washington DC with the family to see the Angels on 9/11!

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