LA Angels Weekend News Crash: Windows Closing

Welcome to the penultimate edition of Weekend Links for the year 2025. The baseball cycle of life seems to be cycling faster and faster as the years go by. Before we know it, Rex will be sending us pictures of players stretching and playing catch. January is always the slowest month for me, and probably you, but we do have plenty to discuss this week.

As the headline suggests, some key decisions on the third base market will be made this weekend. Korean Gold Glove third baseman Sung-Mun Song’s posting window closes on Sunday. Song has not received the same level of attention as his Japanese counterparts, but he is 29 years old and just tore up the KBO.

Message boards out of Korea link him to the Angels and Padres. We shall see.

That shows up in English in my feed but that glitch is too funny to take out. We’re linking Korean now. How’s that for a full service Angels site?

24 hours later the posting window for the much more heralded Munetaka Murakami closes. His market has been eerily quiet, but remember Ohtani kept his market quiet as well. Here’s a stab at making sense of Murakami’s market as his deadline looms.

There’s a bit of a gap between those two windows closing and the deadline for the player who looks like the surest bet needing to make a decision. Kazuma Okamoto has until January 4th to strike a deal.

Perhaps the pursuit of a third baseman is occupying Perry Minasian’s time. But he did have time to speak to the media and make a couple of minor bullpen moves. First, Perry stated what we’ve been saying all along: the Angels need to take some gambles on younger players and have them pay off.

That comment tracks with the rumor of being a suitor for the 29 year old Song. But ironically it came the day after he signed 37 year old Drew Pomeranz and 32 year old Jordan Romero for the bullpen.

Those signings followed former Angels closer Kenley Jansen’s move to the Detroit Tigers; a move that puts the Angels bullpen in a bit of a flux.

All of those comments are well and fine. No GM is going to show their full hand and he’s being as honest as a GM can publicly be. However, he kept going and got into some scary or laughable comments about Mike Trout returning to center field.

Now, I realize he can’t say “we desperately need an outfielder” then try to play hardball with the agents of outfielders. But this is just asking to be the butt of jokes across the baseball world.

I’m not so certain the Angels really need to go sign a centerfielder, either. I learned long ago that Turk’s Teeth is right about players far more often than not and he’s on the Nelson Rada for centerfield wagon. Now FanGraphs is backing that up with some predictions.

I’d bet the under on those 9 home runs every day, but FG has great prospect rankings and evaluators and if they think the kid can hang at the MLB level, who am I to argue?

That said, we need to add a capable outfielder and the Giants just DFA’d Joey Weimer. He’s better than Teodosio with the bat and likely overall better than Matthew Lugo. We could do worse for a fourth outfielder while the latter two season in AAA.

Exactly who the Angels sign may be determined by the outcome of the Tyler Skaggs trial. Closing arguments wrapped up this week and the jury is deliberating.

Two days of deliberations did not produce a verdict and the jury asked two questions at the end of Wednesday. One was related to damages and the other was what happens if they do not reach a verdict by the end of today. For no outwardly logical reason there were no deliberations yesterday. Perhaps Charles can jump in with an explanation because I certainly can not.

From around baseball:

The Dodgers now have over $1,000,000,000 in deferred money on the books. That money runs through 2047 and I’m sure it will create a nice grandfathered loophole for any attempts at a cap in the next CBA.

Luke Weaver left the Yankees to head to the Mets on a 2 year deal. That seems to be quite the pattern nowadays. This is a fun list of players who have crossed from the Bronx to Queens over the years.

So as we wrap up the last real work week of the year and get ready for two weeks of family, friends, food, and probably some chaos I want to sincerely wish you all happy holidays. Whether you celebrate Hannukah or Christmas or Festivus, do so with loved ones and a smile on your face.

We’ve been cruising the neighborhoods with good lights, took the Irvine Railroad Park train to the North Pole and even hit up Disneyland to get into the holiday spirit. Christmas is so much great as a dad and I’m trying to fill the boy with memories of happiness and love.

So please link what I missed. Spend time with loved ones. And be happy and safe over the next week.

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grichmanpoorman
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11 hours ago

Ever wonder what happens to Latin players after they wash out in the minors? Most of them go back home, I imagine… then there are these upstanding young dudes. Ex-Rangers, Dodgers and Cubs, I think. Peaked in the ACL and cultivating new hobbies together.

https://www.abc15.com/news/crime/four-men-arrested-in-connection-with-separate-home-invasion-robberies-in-phoenix

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend

Boys with dreams that just want the chance to work hard.

Eric_in_Portland
Legend
11 hours ago

I was thinking about #17 signing with us after the 2917 season, wondering why Anaheim was a reasonable landing spot then but not now so I refreshed my memory. Ugh.

Despite a couple of down years we had at least finished in 2nd although 80-82 doesn’t look good. We were looking like we were on the way back. But now that we’ve established ourselves as a perennial 4th or 5th place club it doesn’t seem so glamorous. This is why we have to tear down.

Arte, it’s cheaper to rebuild. It’ll pay off in 4 or 5 years. You’ll save now, reap big time later. Arte., can you hear me? Hello?

Senator_John_Blutarsky
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10 hours ago

Is the “no playoff” streak at 900+ years?

Turk's Teeth
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Super Member
13 hours ago

Go Rays.

That’s my kind of front office.

And that’s why they’re a perpetual regenerating phoenix, despite the lower middle class payroll.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  Turk's Teeth

It’s hard to not like those majestic sea flappy flaps. I hope they get a cool new stadium.

grichmanpoorman
Trusted Member
11 hours ago
Reply to  Turk's Teeth

Yes… always rebuilding, perpetually regenerating. Trade away everything old enough to rent a car. Logan’s Run as a baseball team. Sounds like a lot of fun. And obviously it’s really endeared them to their massive fanbase.

I guess they do the small-market thing as well as it can be done. And certainly they’ve out-performed than the Halos over the past last decade. But I can’t imagine envying them. I’ll definitely trade scouting departments with them.

“Brother Baz, you’re wanted in Carousel”

Turk's Teeth
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Super Member
8 hours ago

They’ve made the playoffs five of the last seven seasons with the lowest payroll in the competitive AL East.

You can deride them all you like, but in polling of MLB executives and players, they’re consistently one of the most admired franchises in the sport, and for good reason.

But yes, we can at least agree that they do the small market thing very, very well. And the Angels do the big market thing very, very poorly.

Meanwhile, the Dodgers are the Rays/Brewers *and* a corporate big market titan both.

FungoAle
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8 hours ago
Reply to  Turk's Teeth

That was my fist reaction. A very nice trade, keeping the prospect mill well oiled. They had a good draft as well.

How difficult is this to comprehend, Perry?

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend

Pirates. Actually trying?

Pineapple12
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14 hours ago

BREAKING: There is officially a settlement in the Skaggs-Angels wrongful death trial.

This case was filed 4.5 years ago. Tyler Skaggs died 6.5 years ago. This trial lasted 3 months.

Emotion in the courtroom as the plaintiffs sign the deal.

Terms not disclosed.

https://x.com/i/status/2002100636700270981

Angels2020Champs
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13 hours ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

Thanks for sharing.

This isn’t surprising. Insurance pays most, if not all, of this. Angels premiums and ability to get insurance in the future is more difficult. Skaggs lawyers get a nice Christmas bonus. Skaggs family gets $10+ million but less than $30 (imo). Players/clubhouses remain the same. Nothing changes. Angels still suck. TrÅdition

Last edited 13 hours ago by Angels2020Champs
gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  Pineapple12

Wet fart. I hope everyone gets scabies.

steelgolf
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12 hours ago

And scurvy!

Pineapple12
Legend
15 hours ago

It would be hilarious if GRod outperforms Baz over the next several years because Orioles traded away a haul..

Trade news: The Baltimore Orioles are acquiring right-hander Shane Baz from the Tampa Bay Rays for outfielder Slater de Brun, catcher Caden Bodine, right-hander Michael Forret, outfielder Austin Overn as well as a Competitive Balance Round A pick, sources tell ESPN.

https://x.com/i/status/2002079287533580448

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  Pineapple12

The Rays got a nice haul for Baz. Not bad. It’s almost like they are confident they can develop at least a couple of these players and also have the sack to recognize that New York, Boston and Toronto are ahead of them so reloading or asking “then who’s gonna be our starter” is stupid.

I bet at least a few of the 23,000 Rays fans are pissed because they hate punting and demand a champion and shit. They probably dream about how magical new owner will spend billions on payroll…. oh wait. They have a magical new owner.

ihearhowie3.0
Super Member
14 hours ago

Magical New Owner doesn’t need to spend billions on payroll if they hire and empower a smart, independent front office that does things like this trade you just complimented.

From what I can tell, nobody here wants Arte to simply have him spend like Steve Cohen. They want someone who just knows how to hire, to recognize when and how change is needed and when to let people do their jobs.

I’d love a Magical New Owner who spends less than the Angels like the Cardinals or Guardians but instead hires and develops like them too.

Its a culture and competence thing. Not a budget thing.

Last edited 14 hours ago by ihearhowie3.0
gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  ihearhowie3.0

Sure. Everyone wants a smart owner. If you don’t think anyone around here also wants and believes in magical new owner who will commit his billions to our team’s greatness, I love that for you. I also have several exciting financial opportunities I’d like to sell you.

Do you like floppy understuffed toy critters?

Pineapple12
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14 hours ago
Reply to  ihearhowie3.0

Something to chew on — Steve Ballmer is by all accounts thought of as a great owner for the Clippers. The man has more money than Gawd, self-funded a gorgeous new $2 billion arena, and is currently driving the organization into the ground with his unbreakable loyalty to a moron running the front office.

Sports success really does come down employing a strong front office and empowering them with resources and belief. Something Arte refuses to do. Ballmer does, sadly to the wrong people.

Pineapple12
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14 hours ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

Arturo is indeed the worst owner in American professional sports

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend
Reply to  Pineapple12

Browns… Pirates… just off the top of my head

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

Those guys are the biggest head scratcher for me. Owner can’t fire himself. Yes, I know. “Hurr derr deee dur baseball mans nah durr sterf”. But still, can’t fire himself.

But those guys? WHAT HAVE THEY DONE THAT DOESN’T SUCK? Why can’t they be replaced with just about ANYONE?

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  Pineapple12

Cohen is willing to buy the world and a top POBO and….. fert

Pineapple12
Legend
14 hours ago

What they got back for Baz is kinda insane.

I’m not jumping on the “tear it all down” wagon, but what would a trade for Soriano look like? He’s coming off a better year than Baz and has the same 3 years of control.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  Pineapple12

I traded him in my IIWPM. We got back good things from Los Tigres.

Turk's Teeth
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Super Member
13 hours ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

A trade for Soriano would look a lot like this…if your FO is the Rays FO.

Baz and Soriano had very similar value on the BTV sim, by the way.

Turk's Teeth
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Super Member
13 hours ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

Roughly the haul the Angels could receive for Soriano.

Not that the Angels front office is nearly as canny as the Rays. The Comp A pick is a dice grace note on the deal.

The Rays also won the three-way trade by a country mile.

Senator_John_Blutarsky
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10 hours ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

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gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend

Wait a minute. I just realized that this team’s not very good. Players may not want to come here, even if we offer them a little more. Turns out they get to choose, we don’t just buy them. Crap.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend

The Padres…. serious gamblers. Yu Darvish? Will Michael King stay healthy? They even took a flyer on rebuilding Tristan McKinzie. Those friars like to live on the edge.

grichmanpoorman
Trusted Member
15 hours ago

I would have liked to see Song in Anaheim, too… but based on well-etched track records of KBL players in the MLB, unlikely he is going to be better than a .250 hitter with occasional pop… though a .250/.320/.700-type 3B who stays healthy would be a steal at $5M per.

grichmanpoorman
Trusted Member
15 hours ago

Interesting tidbit from the international FA front… hoping this doesn’t jeopardize the Halos getting Jeyson Horton, who was also linked to the Yanks at one point…

https://www.nydailynews.com/2025/12/19/top-international-prospect-to-sign-with-mets-after-backing-out-of-yankees-deal/

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend

I want the KIDZ!

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend

I know everybody in what ever third world hole these players come from has a Yankees or Dodgers hat but I still don’t understand why these kids always seem to be set to sign with the Yankees. While the Dodgers actually seem to develop and then play some of their talent pool, Scranton seems to be where young hope’s trainline ends in their system. The list of hot young players who seem to just shuttle back and forth and forget how to play baseball in that system is looooonnnnngggg. Jasson Dominguez, Oswaldo Peraza, Oswaldo Cabrerra, Estevan Florial. And those are the guys that made it to AAA. They seem to be this black hole that “top international prospect” always enters at age 17 and is never heard from again.

You’d think, if you’re a top dog with plenty of suitors and money on the table, you’d consider how often/easy it is for young guys to make it to other teams MLB rosters.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  Jeff Joiner

Yup. It’s just weird. I keep hearing that all these old hands down there are full of spicy soulful baseball knowledge. You’d think a few of them would direct kids towards the Reds/Guardians/Diamondbacks/Marlins type orgs. In truth, I know the Reds have a lot of Intl pull. But still, the point remains. Go play for an org that isn’t constantly buying guys specifically so they don’t have to risk giving you a shot.

Pineapple12
Legend
18 hours ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

Hard to judge too harshly without knowing what our offer was. If the money is comparable, there isn’t a strong case for Song or any free agent to choose the Angels over the Padres.

3rd base is shaping up to be Okamoto or bust.

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Turk's Teeth
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18 hours ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

But isn’t that sort of the point? The Angels need to measurably outbid other teams to secure players, given where the franchise sits, and where market valuations are this year (high). So if they can’t even bid competitively on players fetching less than $5m on the market, it tells you where payroll is in the face of Arte’s many difficulties at the moment.

So far, they’ve subtracted from payroll, and are only rolling the dice on $2-4M outlays.

Pineapple12
Legend
17 hours ago
Reply to  Turk's Teeth

Completely agree. We paid more for 2 years of Brandon Drury than Song got.

With the Skaggs trial and silence on a potential Rendon buyout, the budget surely seems like it’s contracting and that we’re punting 2026 away.

steelgolf
Legend
16 hours ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

Get that payroll and long term commitments as low as possible, get the Skaggs fiasco sorted, then you are set up to sell or move the team. I don’t think Arte will gain control of the stadium property in a timeline that would work for him.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  steelgolf

I’m sure that’s a road that has been noted on the map of life options. Maybe we’ll get lucky and the MLB will refuse to let a team leave “LA” so they’ll buy the team from Arte, we can rent the Dodgers stadium, the league can use us for a punching bag, and we can relive the 60s!

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend
Reply to  Turk's Teeth

I know. IT’S GREAT! Right? We won. Arte’s lost so much money he can’t buy us players. WE DID IT! He’s gonna have to present himself to us with a contrite heart and a pretty mouth now! WE are the smartests!

HalosFanForLife
Super Member
16 hours ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

I think Ockham’s Razor is what to follow to explain these tiny moves. They aren’t gambling with short term deals where they are paying slightly over league minimum. Gambling would be going over budget. They are penny pinching and ultimately tanking. I’ll still be pulling for them, but I’m finally considering another team to root on until they sell and fix this utter mess. Rebuild? With what? We have a few guys with control and value and a low ranked minor league system. Even if we were to fleece some team on Neto, Soriano, and the like, we still will have nothing.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

But WHO MAKES THE RAZORS? Have you thought about THAT? Dig a little deeper son.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

Razor Ruddock. Clearly should have won. The fix was in even back then. A coup to become el ultimo Razor.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

Yep. I don’t think it’s the money. There are a whole lot of guys with far less upside for us than Song who will make MORE than him. I don’t think he considered the Angels a premier destination to go play third base. He’d rather play on the West Coast, but would rather do it at 2B with the Padres…. with a better team, better fans, better stadium

cookmeister
Trusted Member
15 hours ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

we’re aiming higher

Song would have been fine, I guess
he had breakout these last 2 seasons, but who knows what he will be here.
KBO doesnt have the best track record of translating

Turk's Teeth
Editor
Super Member
19 hours ago

Unfortunately, the Padres appear to have outbid the Angels for Song, and the contract is only $13m over three years. That was well south of my IIWPM estimate.

If the Angels can’t even pay $5m a year for Song, and they were “in” on the bidding, this is really a lost year.

CAoldskoll
Trusted Member
18 hours ago
Reply to  Turk's Teeth

A reasonable contract for Song. I’m hoping it’s not about the money with the Angels and more about how they evaluate him as an MLB transitioning player. Not convinced any KBO star can be a legit hitter. Hasn’t happened yet?? Their ‘Ichiro’ Jung Hoo Lee, got a massive contract from Giants like 19mil per/6 yrs for what; 260 avg, under double digits HRs?? Hoping they go with Okamoto. No Murakami, too expensive for what looks like a Joey Gallo hitter -(who at least could field).

Turk's Teeth
Editor
Super Member
18 hours ago
Reply to  CAoldskoll

$4m/yr is nothing – a bench player gamble. At those rates they could sign Song and Okamoto (at say, $15m/yr) both.

The AAV for Lee was likely too rich, but Lee did put up 2.4 fWAR last year, roughly equivalent to $19m in value. I’m fairly sure the Giants aren’t evaluating their CF solely on HR production.

At his contract cost, missing out on Song seems like a lost opportunity to me.

Turk's Teeth
Editor
Super Member
18 hours ago
Reply to  CAoldskoll

But to answer your question, I think Ha-seong Kim is an example of a player who made a strong transition from the KBO. Until last year’s injury riddled season, he had a good run with the Padres from ’22-’24, and they’re obviously running that playbook back. It’s less about power than contact, glove and a fairly well-rounded baseball player.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend
Reply to  Turk's Teeth

I think Kim’s run as a Padre helped them land Song. That’s my guess. That and San Diego > Anaheim, Padre Fans > Angels fans, Petco etc. The Angels would have to pay me double what the Padres were offering, not just a few million more.

FungoAle
Legend
8 hours ago
Reply to  CAoldskoll

I think MLB pitching will be a difficult puzzle to solve for this guy.

Turk's Teeth
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Super Member
7 hours ago
Reply to  FungoAle

Could be – I’ve never tried to position Song as a difference-maker or potential future 30 HR guy. Just an interesting player with upside for a team that needs upside. At a position of need. At a very affordable price.

FungoAle
Legend
6 hours ago
Reply to  Turk's Teeth

However, as you mentioned, that price-point is certainly a low investment and worthy of signing him.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend
Reply to  Turk's Teeth

This totally ignores that Song has to want to play here.

RexFregosi
Super Member
19 hours ago

nice update on the closing window situation with the Asian ball players. can’t get the global coverage anywhere else.

HalosFanForLife
Super Member
19 hours ago

I think you nailed the grandfather clause Jeff. They would not have done this without a plan for the transition. They are too good of operators.

The Dodgers dominate MLB ticket revenues, and it’s a fascinating case study in how volume and pricing power combined to finally put them on top.

2024 Ticket Revenue Leaders (Per Game):

Dodgers: $4.29 million per home gameYankees: $4.11 millionCubs: $3.25 millionRed Sox: $2.93 millionAstros: $2.69 millionThe Angels? $1.44 million per home game in 2024. So while the Dodgers get an average of $87 per ticket, the Angels get $33.

The Dodgers and Yankees were the only teams exceeding $300 million in total ticket revenue for the season.

What makes this interesting?

The Dodgers historically led in attendance but not ticket revenue because their pricing was lower than the Yankees. That flipped in 2024. Their average ticket price was $87, ranking fourth behind the Yankees ($99), Cubs ($90), and Red Sox ($87). But their massive attendance advantage – 49,067 average paid attendance, nearly 20% higher than the Yankees’ 41,631 – pushed them to the top.

The Shohei Ohtani effect was real and gave them a huge revenue burst in both ticket sales and sponsorships, helping push the Dodgers to become the first MLB team to hit $1 billion in gross revenue in 2024. Luxury tax? Whatever.

Teams at the bottom of the league generate around $500,000 per game – meaning the Dodgers generate roughly 8-9x what the lowest revenue teams do per home game. That’s a massive competitive advantage when it translates to payroll flexibility.

The Angels generate about 3x per home game what the lowest teams generate. The Dodgers are about 3x the Angels.

And let’s not forget the Dodgers global value with Ohtani and company.

Last edited 19 hours ago by HalosFanForLife
HalosFanForLife
Super Member
19 hours ago

I also think they took a page from the Lakers and have played very well on the celebrity fan branding. Maybe a few different characters, but they are pushing Dodgers games as the hip thing to do which has given them that average ticket price boost.

And let me say this, somebody on the inside is making a killing in the resale market. I had a friend that played in that space and let’s say there is a lot of wheeling and dealing and side deals to get ticket inventory.

RexFregosi
Super Member
19 hours ago

Dodgers and the Hollywood influencers? from Day 1.

Terry
Trusted Member
20 hours ago

I remember a movie, called “The Verdict” from about 40 years ago that starred Paul Newman as a downtrodden lawyer handling a medical malpractice case. The defendants were a huge medical enterprise with high priced lawyers. During the jury deliberations the jurors sent a question to the judge if there were a limit to punitive damages they could award. Lights out for the defendants. Perhaps this is occurring in the Skaggs case, or not.

RexFregosi
Super Member
19 hours ago
Reply to  Terry

Sammy at the NYT says Settlement discussions have been largely dormant throughout the three-month trial proceedings. However, the Angels re-engaged on Thursday and are negotiating at a higher dollar award than in the past.

FungoAle
Legend
8 hours ago
Reply to  Terry

Great flick. Paul Newman was excellent.

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