LA Angels Monday News Crash: Almost Done

The Braves claimed Chuckie Robinson off waivers.

The Diamondbacks designated righty Jake Woodford for assignment while the Tigers designated Charlie Morton for assignment.

Photo credit: Rex Fregosi

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red floyd
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2 days ago

L’Shana Tovah! Happy New Year, y’all.

Last edited 2 days ago by red floyd
Eric_in_Portland
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2 days ago

Sodden Sam Aldegheri tomorrow night. I like that he and Dana are pitching now. It’s an opportunity to figure out what they have.

2002heaven
Super Member
2 days ago

You don’t know yet?
😂😂 Probably not Zack Wheeler.
Always ask yourself, BTW this goes for everybody including the writers….If they were Dodgers where would they fit in if at all? Neto, Adell, and Ward and possibly Soriano and nobody else.

FungoAle
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2 days ago
Reply to  2002heaven

Dana needs two more years honing his control in the minors

steelgolf
Legend
3 days ago

I will be at tomorrow nights game in sec 204, cheering and being a proud dad as my son takes the field with his high school marching band to play the National Anthem. Rockin the clarinet. Then, my family and I will leave early after my son is done hanging out with his friends and eating stadium food.

RexFregosi
Super Member
2 days ago
Reply to  steelgolf

my kids rocked marching band in high school but did not do a bigger sporting event with them. They played outside the Super Bowl one pre-game morning and also welcomed a college football team at the airport another year.

I did see by happenstance see Brock Purdy play a game his senior year in HS.. And we won big school AZ state band championships every year. We were dynastic..

Angelz4ever
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3 days ago
Reply to  Charles Sutton

That was nice to see, a lot of players would’ve played the guy off. We as Halo fans, of course, would expect that from Trout.

RexFregosi
Super Member
3 days ago
Reply to  Charles Sutton

The Hunt for Red October!
there is always the latest on the Skaggs trial that Sammy says is kicking off
 🍿 

steelgolf
Legend
2 days ago
Reply to  RexFregosi

This one is going to be interesting. And you can bet Mr. Kay’s attorneys will be watching very closely for any new information that can be used to challenge his conviction and sentence.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Steelgolf reminded me with a comment.

Would it be OK if we ditched our tired AF uniforms and the now likely dead Rally Monkey?

That’s some old used up shit man. Those memberberries have memberberries.

Jeff Joiner
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3 days ago

I was over the rally monkey a decade ago. I think die hard fans are as well.

However, my son loves the monkey and it gets laughs when my wife joins us a few games per year. So I think it holds appeal to the casual fans.

The uniforms were best when they had a lot more navy blue IMO.

RexFregosi
Super Member
3 days ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

yep.

keep the monkey, otherwise we will get some furball mascot clone like 25 other clubs that is better suited for Hollywood Blvd with Elmo.
with everything else going on, don’t need THAT.
your stupid team in in the playoffs? Good for you. but at least we don’t a stupid fur ball mascot like your team does.

the monkey is good middle ground – its something, its 2002, it’s not overblown like 25 other clubs, its safe from guys like Lasorda. it keeps the kids happy

and way over due for navy blue – 1995 was my favorite, but I liked the look of the 2021 AL All-Stars. I was over the red 10 years ago.

Rally Monkey in Blue. Make it so.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  RexFregosi

Those 1995 uniforms were CLASS. When Disney forced those pinstriped dick wing uniforms on us I actually got more into the Reds for a while. I’d be stoked if they just brought back a Los Angeles version of those 95s.

PedroCerrano
Super Member
2 days ago

Those CA uniforms were great.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  PedroCerrano

Yup. Dats dem

Angelz4ever
Super Member
3 days ago

However, at least with the Rally Monkey, Halo fans have something to look forward to in the late at-home innings.

YOUknowulovetheIE
Super Member
3 days ago

I think the rally monkey has been dead

RexFregosi
Super Member
2 days ago

its just Rallies. those are dead.

DowningDude
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2 days ago

Rally Monkey was already laid off
https://youtu.be/H7KsFGxIgO8?si=cLQR5U1Rv_y-EbwA

Born_in_59
Trusted Member
3 days ago

For those of you wondering what ever became of Kyren Paris, he was activated by the Bees on Sep 18. Over the last three games of the minor league season, he went 2 for 10 with 5 strikeouts. But both hits were homeruns, including a grand slam in the final game for on 8-4 SLC win.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  Born_in_59

Wash is stupid for not starting him this weekend.

Born_in_59
Trusted Member
3 days ago

The team could have used that grand slam on Sunday.

RexFregosi
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2 days ago
Reply to  Born_in_59

our negative bWAR leads for 2025 Kevin Newman slugging .747 for the Toledo Mud Hens since signing with the Tigers. in other news, I wish there was more baseball today.

steelgolf
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2 days ago
Reply to  RexFregosi

Not 1 single American League game today, because ………… MLB scheduling.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Well, we got our “Year End Outrage Series” out of the way. We can forget about the White Sox at the end of last year and maintain a rage boner over the Rockies for the next ten months. We will likely have this long lasting condition until we face facts and suck like we have the last two months for an entire year as we tear down and sell everything instead of reloading for more suck.

Stephenson.

The rookies and youngins I have hope for are all under .200 BA. Rad. BUT Teodosio is over .200 and already has .5 WAR. So half of Mike Trout’s WAR in just part of a season. I hate to hope, but if he can just bent or leg out a few more hits a month he’d be a great roster piece. True 4th OF.

What do you do with a pile of garbage? Sell what’s valuable and burn the rest. Hey, it looks like the Rays may have a shake up happening. In my dreams Arte sells and new owner comes and and then poaches those guys….

Don’t reload. Sign no one next year. Trade everyone good. Force Trout to retire or demand a trade or play with a quad A club. Sell the club with a 55M payroll in 2027. Sure, CtPG Guy may die in this desert having never seen the green hills. I don’t care. Burn it all.

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gitchogritchoffmypettis
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I don’t need Teodosio bent. I’m not a Hollywood producer or California politician. I need him to bunt….

Terry
Trusted Member
3 days ago

The team is terrible, the farm system is terrible, the management is terrible, the stadium is 60 years old. The question remains:

Why are people still attending the games? To see the opposition players? Is there nothing else to do in Orange County?

I listen to the games, it’s on in the background, and I’ve listen to fewer than ever.

Why support a proven loser organization?

cookmeister
Trusted Member
3 days ago
Reply to  Terry

People attend games for a variety of reasons. You choose not to, and that’s fine. But it’s not really anyone’s business as to why others choose to attend.

Also, your “moniak’s spectacular defense” comment from the other day still has me cracking up

Terry
Trusted Member
3 days ago
Reply to  cookmeister

Your choice. Complain about the crappy product but still buy it, your prerogative. It’s a free country. I suppose you buy products at the store, perhaps, then complain about the lousy product, but buy it year after year while the price goes up. Arte loves customers like that, HIs team keeps losing but the flock keeps buying at ever increasing prices. Keep feeding that Arte money machine.

As for the “spectacular” Moniak defense, please quote me correctly. I said “excellent” defense, in reference to the Angels bunch in the OF. I would compare to Ward, Moniak plays excellent defense. You also did not consider the outfield at Coors stadium has far greater expanses in the power alleys than the big K. Moniak, in fact, does an excellent job there. Your welcome.

cookmeister
Trusted Member
3 days ago
Reply to  Terry

ya. How dare people enjoy a night out with friends and family. They shouldn’t go enjoy watching a game, watching their favorite players, etc. You don’t have to go to a game your team wins to have an enjoyable time.

Moniak has a negative WAR because his defense is so bad. But if you want numbers:

Moniak:
DRS: -22
dWAR: -2.4
OAA: -8

Adell:
DRS: -10 or -12 (if included cf/rf)
dWAR: -.3 or -1.1
OAA: -11

Ward:
DRS: -1.1
dWAR: -.8
OAA: +1

Arm value for Ward and Adell is also higher but sure, Moniak’s defense is “excellent”

Terry
Trusted Member
2 days ago
Reply to  cookmeister

I will make this simple for you:

People can enjoy anything they want, good on them. My comment posed the question as to why people attend the games, if they complain how crappy the product is. If they enjoy it, great! Arte enjoys it also. So, please, enjoy your evening at the stadium. Since you don’t seem to understand the question as it was presented, as opposed to apparently you took it personally, so be it.

As for Moniak, please do go by your analytics, whatever, which, like predicting a race horse and the hundreds of variables that can never be factored in, such are your analytics. I’m sure your analytics factors in the size of the outfield etc and many other factors, such as playing at 5,200 ft elevation; wind variances; crappy pitching staffs giving up many more line drives etc. Be that as it may, Moniak has done an excellent job for it being his first year in that Ball park. And yes, he’s had a better season than Trout, at a tenth of the cost. That should set you off again.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  Terry

Park factors are, indeed, factored in to those pesky analytics. Moniak is far from excellent even if he does look a lot like my dad in his 20s.

Dogface1956
Trusted Member
2 days ago
Reply to  Terry

I watch the Angels because I’m a fan, win or lose. I of course am happiest when they are winning, but unfortunately they have been the happy go-lucky losers for most of the time they have been in existence.

I remember the lean years mid-60’s to late 70’s, moderate success 80’s with some major heartbreak, most of the 90’s were duds. From 1976 until 1987 I was a season ticket holder (so you know just how crazy I was I lived in the San Fernando Valley and pretty much never missed a game at the “Big A” made the drive 70+ times a year.) and they were more bad years then good, but win or lose I enjoyed watching my team (they might have been bums, put they were my bums).

Of course we have the “money” years from 2002 until 2014 where we won more than we lost for the most part, the only times was able to see my team in person was when they came to Oakland or Seattle or a couple trips to Anaheim a year.

One thing that I have always hated are “fair weather” fans, the my biggest gripe I have with the Giants and Dodgers (in their history they their attendance was higher than league average 47 times, they were over 3 million for 16 straight years for the last 5 of those years when they were lousy). When they lose their fans don’t go to the games, they go to be seen, not to see the game.

You know if I still lived in LA I would be a season ticket holder, my life has taken me away from the LA area and most likely I will never return, but until the day I die I will be an Angel fan is if they are playing anywhere close to where I live I will always make an effort to see in person.

Last edited 2 days ago by Dogface1956
gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  Dogface1956

I wish I could get my life to take me away from California….

DowningDude
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2 days ago
Reply to  Dogface1956

You’re awesome man! 💪

Fansince1971
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2 days ago
Reply to  Dogface1956

Dog – I don’t think anyone here is fair weather. If you are reading or contributing to this site, you are a real fan (except for maybe a troll or two).

Where you and I may differ is how best to support the team we love. You are a blind supporter who accepts bad Org decisions as part of the ‘loveable losers’ narrative. By comparison, I refuse to give Arte any money in the hope that if enough people do the same he will lose money and eventually sell the team to better ownership.

There are many ways to be a fan of a team. No one way makes someone a better fan than another fan.

cookmeister
Trusted Member
2 days ago
Reply to  Terry

Let’s not be disingenuous. You know exactly what you are saying. People that go to games are suckers and just adding to Arte’s pockets. Congrats to you for “sticking it to the man.” So brave of you.
Let people do what they want to do. Who cares why they choose to go to games

And DRS takes ballpark into account, bud 😉

RexFregosi
Super Member
2 days ago
Reply to  cookmeister

advanced metrics are for adults

HR and RBI
the bubble gum card is close to saying TWO 35 HR/100 RBI outfielders

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  Terry

Same as the Rockies. I watched a few Reds, Padres, Brewers, Phillies, Pirates games there on TV. They have fans and they are loud. Why? No idea.

Terry
Trusted Member
3 days ago

Well the Rockies did make the playoffs in ’18. With exception of this year, they had won more games in past three year prior than the Angels. They also have a great ball park.

The pirates attendance has decreased from 30,000 average per game in 2015 to 18,000 per game, high number of people are not going to see the Pirates now.

Ad for the Reds, Phillies, Brewers and Padres, they have had better teams the past decade than the Halos.

Jeff Joiner
Editor
Legend
3 days ago
Reply to  Terry

I attend games for a few reasons.

  1. In an age of phones and TVs everywhere, there are very few places where I can sit with my family and friends and enjoy an evening outside and a good conversation.
  2. Tickets are way cheap on StubHub
  3. Growing up in a small town in the middle of nowhere I dreamed of being able to go to games. Now I can.
  4. To see Neto, Trout, Adell, Ward, and a handful of others.
  5. To see opposing players.

I attend fewer games now than in years past. Part of that is due to fatherhood but part due to Arte. If/when the team is good again the focus will be back on baseball. For now, I’m enjoying the relative quiet and time with family/friends.

Angelz4ever
Super Member
3 days ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

I’d rather play than watch and I’d rather watch in person than on the tube.

Fansince1971
Legend
3 days ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

As to your first point, with all the amplified noise and strobe/flashing lights and constant loud music, I am not sure a relaxing, meaningful conversation can be had anymore at the ballpark.

DowningDude
Legend
2 days ago
Reply to  Terry

Family time. The love of the game. Smell of the stinky metallic lubricant for the escalators. Burning hot dogs I won’t buy. The fireworks. National anthem. Mike Trout. Jo Adell.

Other than that I’d stay away.

Angelz4ever
Super Member
3 days ago

Trout is going to be in beast mode in 2026, right out of the ST gate.

Just ask him.

Terry
Trusted Member
3 days ago
Reply to  Angelz4ever

As well as Rendon

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend
Reply to  Terry

This April is gonna be so awesome. Don’t forget about the real sleeping giant…. Soler.

Actually, I’m only half kidding on Soler. He may go full mongo at some point as he is prone to do and hit 47 home runs in six weeks….

Angelz4ever
Super Member
3 days ago

…or 47 HRs in six seasons….

Last edited 3 days ago by Angelz4ever
RexFregosi
Super Member
2 days ago

February is the one month that will be  🔥 
the rest of the months are sus

steelgolf
Legend
3 days ago
Reply to  Terry

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Marcotor
Trusted Member
2 days ago
Reply to  Angelz4ever

In the BEST SHAPE OF HIS LIFE!

steelgolf
Legend
2 days ago
Reply to  Marcotor

The shape of a recliner. Which is a really good shape for him.

Jeff Joiner
Editor
Legend
3 days ago

Should be an interesting week around the league.

Detroit and Cleveland battle for the AL Central lead.

Houston or Boston could get squeezed out of a Wild Card

The Mets are going full September Mets but can the Reds pass them?

Born_in_59
Trusted Member
3 days ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

It would be a nice end to the season to knock the Astros out of the playoffs.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  Jeff Joiner

AAAAAAHHHHH! Damn you baseball for making me still give a shit this late! Let’s go Guardindians! Kick those Astros out! Let’s go Reds! Let’s go Sneks! Keep going Brewers and Padres! The Blue Jays are a team that plays. Let’s go not Doyers!

RexFregosi
Super Member
3 days ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

Reds technically have that 3rd WC this morning —- Snakes Alive too!

And like 2023, they will bounce the Dodgers in the first round.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  RexFregosi

I love this idea. And Guardindians bounce the Yankees.

Marcotor
Trusted Member
2 days ago

Guards/Reds more better than YankSox/Mets.

Last edited 2 days ago by Marcotor
red floyd
Legend
2 days ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

OOOH!!!! Want to see the Four Letter Network’s collective heads explode? CLE vs MIL in the World Series!!!

GrandpaBaseball
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2 days ago
Reply to  red floyd

Brewers’ vs Jays would be a great series too. No Yankees, Dodgers, Metz, or Giants. Would be cool if the Padres make it to the WS, or the Tigers also. Teams with lower payrolls who can hit and pitch just to show that payrolls of 250 to 350 million dollars is not the only way to go. But I really would like to see the Brewers win the whole thing. 🍺 

Born_in_59
Trusted Member
2 days ago
Reply to  red floyd

I might watch that series over the Yankees and Dodgers again.

MarineLayer
Legend
3 days ago

I don’t care how many more HRs Trout hits. His days helping the franchise win are over, hard as it is for me to write those words.

I don’t see any way out of our team crappiness going forward. #1 priority is Arturo selling. #2 is finding a better placeholder than Minasian until he does. As Steel pointed out below, cornering the market on relievers in the draft is not a viable strategy. His 26 and 40 man rosters are dreadful. The coaching staff needs to be upgraded as does every other part of the organization. We can’t beat teams like the White Sox and the Rockies.

We desperately need a new direction. Play the kids requires having kids worth playing.

Phil
Trusted Member
3 days ago

Now that Trout finally hit HR #400, CBS Sportsline has an article that asks if Trout can hit 500.

The author, Matt Snyder, has the hypothetical scenario for Trout to get to 500:

Rest of 2025: 12026: 282027: 232028: 192029: 162030: 13My bet is Trout gets to 504 – right with Eddie Murray.

Of course, a lengthy injury – 2+ months in any of those years – would put my hopes of Trout getting to 500 HRs in serious jeopardy.

Last edited 3 days ago by Phil
Terry
Trusted Member
3 days ago
Reply to  Phil

Interesting. He does have a chance for 500.

My unofficial estimate, correlating with Trout’s next five years, but regarding Angel team victories:

2026: 75
2027: 76
2028: 77
2029: 78
2030: 79

As we can see, our boys will get to .500 in the year of our lord 2032.

In 2037, will be playing meaningful games in September.

steelgolf
Legend
3 days ago
Reply to  Terry

This team has been treading water below .500 since 2016. Unless there is a change in ownership/front office, this pattern will continue, and not the incremental improvement model, because you need to factor in the decision makers and their past track record. Now if Manfraud changes the rules to a 45 man active roster where you are allowed 30 relievers, then The Angels fortunes could turn, since they have the market cornered on college relievers.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend
Reply to  steelgolf

The real question is, how much business does Arte have left to do?

steelgolf
Legend
3 days ago

Plenty of monkey business.

Eric_in_Portland
Legend
3 days ago
Reply to  steelgolf

Good ones?

Fansince1971
Legend
3 days ago
Reply to  Phil

Trout is 34 years old and will turn 35 next season. He is well past his prime and is declining rapidly.

Over his age 32, 33 and 34 aged seasons he has hit a total of 50HR – that’s approximately 17 per season. I do not think you can reasonably expect those numbers to increase as Trout’s baseball skills and body continue to rapidly decline.

Giving every benefit of the doubt, let’s say he averages 15 HR per season for the rest of his career. That means it would take 7 more seasons to reach 500.

I doubt Trout will play into his 40s and therefore I very much doubt he will reach 500 HR.

All of those lost seasons to injuries in his prime (approximately 3 full lost seasons) cost him his chance for historic numbers.

Born_in_59
Trusted Member
3 days ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

But keep in mind that those 50 HRs were accomplished with a little more than 1,000 plate appearances. I know that his recent health issues give rise to doubt, but if Mike can average 490 PAs over the next 5 years, then his current HR% of 4.1% will give him 100 HRs. I do realize that Trout could decline rapidly, and he could continue to get injured every year, but I don’t believe 500 HRs by the end of his contract is unreasonable. Declines are rarely linear, so I can see one season above this year, one about the same and three below as Matt Snyder seems to be proposing.

steelgolf
Legend
3 days ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

Hoping for juiced balls ?

Senator_John_Blutarsky
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