Angels Lose 17-4

Yusei Kikuchi gave up seven runs in the first two innings. Nothing to see here. Well, he struck out his 1000th batter.

The Angels had one run in the third inning. It came off of a Yoan Moncada triple.

About every other inning or so the Athletics would score another run.

The Angels got a couple of men on in the seventh. Then Teodosio, Neto, and Trout struck out in order.

Scott Kingery came in to replace Robert Stephenson on the mound in the eighth inning. He struck out Nick Kurtz. Then he gave up a couple of singles and a homer to make it 12-1 Athletics. Three more singles loaded the bases with one out for Shea Langoliers. Langoliers singled to make it 14-1 Athletics.

In the bottom of the eighth inning Matthew Lugo homered off Mr. Magoo to bring the Angels within twelve,

Jo Adell homered to make it 14-3.

Luis Rengifo walked. That was the end of the Angels offensive explosion in the eighth inning. Chris Taylor, Oswald Peraza, and Logan O’Hoppe made the outs.

Kingery came back out to pitch the ninth, although it was not an official save situation. He gave up three more runs. 17-3 Athletics.

Bryce Teodosio lined out to short. Logan Davidson pinch hit for Zach Neto and singled. Scott Kingery reached on a fielder’s choice and Davidson made it to third on an error. Chris Taylor hit into a force out at second. Matthew Lugo supplied more heroics by singling in Davidson. 17-4 Athletics.

Jo Adell singled. Luis Rengifo grounded out to end the game. The Angels lost badly.

Photo credit: Rex Fregosi

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Roy Hobbs
Super Member
3 days ago

The highest BA in our line up is .243. No one else is even hitting .230 and 4 guys are hitting under .190. We have a giant talent issue. Today, Jo Adel is the best hitter in our line up. Kudos to Jo but this should not be the case. Just to paraphrase from yesterday, the Halos are in a deep hole with no visible way out.

Turk's Teeth
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Super Member
3 days ago
Reply to  Roy Hobbs

To drive this home a bit, the AL average batting average is .246.

What’s also notable is how much that has declined in two decades. It was .269 in 2006.

So two things are true: baseball is getting harder, and the Angels are not keeping up as it does so.

Last edited 3 days ago by Turk's Teeth
Roy Hobbs
Super Member
3 days ago
Reply to  Turk's Teeth

Did you mean .269 in 2005? BAs and OBAs have dropped so much it’s sometimes difficult to know what’s good. It used to be relative to OBAs that .400+ was elite, .375+ was very good, and .350+ was good (approximately). GA was criticized for having .330 OBA and called the silent assassin. A sub .330 OBA was considered quite poor. It’s crazy.

Turk's Teeth
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3 days ago
Reply to  Roy Hobbs

Sorry…typo (corrected).

2006 – mid-decade peak.

Brent
Super Member
3 days ago

Trout leading off. They’ve already lost the game.

Turk's Teeth
Editor
Super Member
3 days ago

Today is the final game of the 66ers regular season. Tuesday, playoffs begin.

It’s been quite the turnaround. In the first half, they delivered the worst half season I’ve seen for a Cal League Angels affiliate: 18-48.

In the second half, they are 41-24, with the league’s best record in that time, and go into their final game on a seven day win streak.

The ACL kids, plus Raudi and Ruiz up top, and a couple helpful senior signs from the 2025 draft have made the difference.

2002heaven
Super Member
3 days ago
Reply to  Turk's Teeth

Sorry about this comment TT, but it has to be made.
I’m not gonna give this organization and it’s farm kids the benefit of MY DOUBT until I see the improvement at the MLB level. I think 10+ yrs in a row of our organization having the worst scouting and player development in MLB pretty much justifies my position. We take a shotgun and grenade approach to the draft, we don’t spend enough or scout enough in Latin America. We don’t draft American HS kids before the 3rd rd. Also I didn’t agree with you on Reid Detmers back on the smoldering ruins of the Cubs weekend sweep against us, because we really really needed him to be a rock stud for us as a frontline starter AND HE FAILED BADLY. I hope we can start scouting and developing like I know we can and could and once did, BUT WE ALL KNOW WHO THE ONE PERSON IS WHO’S AGAINST ALL THIS. Mike Trout to Zack Neto and Jered Weaver, John Lackey, and Ervin Santana to Jose Soriano is a long time…..

Turk's Teeth
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3 days ago
Reply to  2002heaven

Taking a categorical stance on individual performance is its own sort of self-delusion, and will blind yourself to any improvement where, when and if it comes.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  Turk's Teeth

Oh yeah. well

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Turk's Teeth
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3 days ago

I’ve always found Jung-ian analysis to be a little opaque.

GrandpaBaseball
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3 days ago

It would appear that some here are now seeing what I have seen for some time now, PTP is either in over his head or Arturo is using him as a minion or is it both.

Note to PTP, show some balls and resign if you ever want to be a GM anywhere but Anaheim in your future.

Currently the Angels are such a mess that there is nothing more meaningful to the team than for Arturo to just that his billions and sell this baseball version of the Titanic. This clown shit show has reached an all-time low point and as has been evident for some time now is just flat out embarrassing past repair. “Meaningful game in September” is for those who would love to be traded away only. Definition of stupid is even in the rear view mirror at this point.

Brent
Super Member
3 days ago

Happy Grandparents Day.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend

It appears that you are seeing some seeing what just about everyone has been seeing the whole time and are telling us you have seen it too. Have a cookie.

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
3 days ago

I want a cookie!

GrandpaBaseball
Legend
3 days ago

You didn’t leave any  😅  🍪 ‘s, and your crystal ball does not see the past very well either. So have a participation piece of (humble) pie,

Turk's Teeth
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Super Member
3 days ago

Slate Alford had himself a night at 3B for the 66ers last night: on base five times with four hits and a walk. Slash line up to .287/.433/.436 now. Hasn’t gotten to the game power we regularly saw in the SEC, but the patience/power profile is still evident.

Of 21 selections in the 2025 draft, Alford is the single pick where my board aligned with Perry’s. I had him as a ninth round target, and that’s where the Angels selected him.

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
3 days ago
Reply to  Turk's Teeth

Anyone in the organization who can play 3B and hit will be warmly welcomed.

GrandpaBaseball
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3 days ago
Reply to  Roy Hobbs

enthusiastically too.

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
3 days ago
Reply to  Turk's Teeth

Perry said “I’ll give Turk’s one pick just tone nice.”  😎 

Turk's Teeth
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3 days ago
Reply to  Roy Hobbs

More than he usually gives me!

(He did give me Neto in 2022, and has told me that’s enough for a half decade.)

Kevin
Trusted Member
3 days ago

Other than Adell and some of the fringe guys, it seems we have reached the point where some guys are mailing it in. The coaching staff is also doing odd things. Why leave Kikuchi in so long when he had nothing? And why take Silseth out when he hadn’t even pitched two innings as former starter? Why bring Burks in when you are down 8 runs? I know you need to full innings. Silseth was that guy.

Other question: why is this team pretty good on the road and generally poor at home? It’s a bizarre twist.

milehigh
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3 days ago
Reply to  Kevin

This team is 34-36 at home and 32-39 on the road. So home record is better.
Don’t know why Detmers and Silseth can’t pitch more than one inning.

Kevin
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3 days ago
Reply to  milehigh

Understood. But teams that are close to .500 on the road, should be substantially over .500 at home. And teams that are under .500 at home should be like 25-46 on the road.

Turk's Teeth
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3 days ago
Reply to  Kevin

(NERD trigger alert.)

I think those %s are a bit exaggerated. While a home field advantage exists in baseball, it’s one of the lowest among professional sports, and SABR analysis finds that home teams win 53-54% of games. So a .500 team would typically be like 38-43 on the road.

Jimmuscomp
Trusted Member
3 days ago

I remember folks yelling when anyone mentioned luck with this team earlier in the season. Those of us talking about run differential were told “but grit”….

But the game is: scoring runs and not giving up runs. This team has shown themselves to be able to give up mass quantities of runs on the regular. That shit catches up with you.

The copium was not real. This team has always been bad.- just moreso now…

That said, Neto and Adell and Soriano, and Ward, and Burke, and a few others have been a lot of fun to watch. It’s been a way more entertaining group this year.

But. Still. Bad.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  Jimmuscomp

Grit’s great if you have a roster that is 2 or 3 games from accomplishing something. Otherwise you need talent and execution.

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
3 days ago

What is this talent thing you speak of?

Senator_John_Blutarsky
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If MLB, Arte, Angles baseball operations executives, some players, and the fans who continue to spend money watching this franchise don’t care, why should anyone?

Futility doesn’t even begin to describe the current state of the franchise. I laugh hysterically at the assertion that the franchise has a “core” to build around for the future. Perry has collected a group of individuals with minimal talent and even less heart.

Baseball is a team sport. The Angels are not a team.

Phil
Trusted Member
3 days ago

Good post!

These players have difficulty performing the fundamentals (hitting, pitching, fielding, running).

The more players (from 2025) that you bring back for 2026, the more likely you’ll NOT make the playoffs.

Neto, Schanuel, Detmers, Adell come back.

Trout / Rendon / Kikuchi / Soler come back (due to contract, unless you can trade them or else pay someone to take them)

Perhaps some rookies come back (Dana, Teo, maybe Lugo), since they’re playing in September, giving you more opportunities to evaluate their talent level against MLB competition.

If Moore / Kochanowicz / Paris / other rookies are not good enough to play in these meaningless games, there is no reason for them to be on 2026 roster until Angels are near-elimination (i.e. mid-August 2026).

No Kavadas / Campero / Peraza / Rengifo / Moncada, etc.

I am unsure about Taylor Ward, Soriano, Burke
O’hoppe is the backup catcher, at best.

Again, the more players from 2025 roster that you bring back for 2026, the more likely you’ll get the same results in 2026.

Last edited 3 days ago by Phil
Angels2020Champs
Legend
3 days ago

To me, baseball is an individual sport that masquerades as a team one. Especially on these Angels. Strikeout 8 times in a two game span, maybe get a home run in there (when, quite frankly, the run won’t matter). Sure I love Adell’s 34 or whatever home runs, but how many of those have come when the angels have been losing/winning by 3 or less runs? I’m too GA to look.

GonFishin
Trusted Member
3 days ago

Somehow Montgomery is making me miss Washington. I’m tired of seeing a position player pitch every 10 days. Can’t imagine the players respect it.

MarineLayer
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3 days ago
Reply to  GonFishin

I wish they would both disappear along with Minasian and the coaching staff.

max
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max
3 days ago

Fuck*ng pathetic and not likely to get much better soon. Burn it down.

steelgolf
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3 days ago
Reply to  Charles Sutton

🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪

Jim Atkins
Super Member
3 days ago
Reply to  Charles Sutton

Roger that, counselor.

Turk's Teeth
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Super Member
3 days ago

The A’s are a very exciting young team, and are going to be a challenging rival for the Angels for the next few years.

Senator_John_Blutarsky
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Reply to  Turk's Teeth

St. John Bosco High School are a very exciting young team, and are going to be a challenging rival for the Angels for the next few years.

Turk's Teeth
Editor
Super Member
3 days ago

Fair.

2002heaven
Super Member
3 days ago

Angels right now would have their hands full in the SEC.

steelgolf
Legend
3 days ago

I know they have a new “pitching lab”, but they may want to invest in a hitting lab too.

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Legend
Reply to  steelgolf

They did. Here’s Perry explaining it all to Sam Blum:

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Eric_in_Portland
Legend
3 days ago

Still in 4th, pending tomorrow’s game.

20 more occasions to experience meaningless baseball. Perry’s greatest skill is looking confident while he’s making mistakes

DowningDude
Legend
3 days ago

No 100-loss season? ✅
Swept the Dodgers? ✅

It was a good season. History almost every night. 🤣

DowningDude
Legend
3 days ago
Reply to  DowningDude

“3 slowest pitches in recorded MLB history to get whiffs were recorded last night on 3 consecutive pitches.”

milehigh
Trusted Member
3 days ago
Reply to  DowningDude

Please Kurtz teammates, you have to frame that and hang it on his locker.

in totally unrelated news, all GMs are scouring the country for slo pitch softball pitchers.

MarineLayer
Legend
3 days ago

The hallmark of the mark at a poker table. AKA, a sucker and a loser. Time for a change at the top, the owner, then him.

DowningDude
Legend
3 days ago

That was Uckin’ Fugly.

Jeff Joiner
Editor
Legend
3 days ago

The Angels have the worst run differential in the American League.

Only Washington and Colorado are worse. The next closest team is Miami, who is 20 runs better.

GonFishin
Trusted Member
3 days ago

Keeping Perry employed after this year is a straight insult to the fanbase. The guy said he didn’t sell pieces at the deadline because he wanted to play competitive baseball in September. It’s September 6th and they are 10 games under .500, 8 games out of the wild card, and have been outscored 27-8 by the A’s.

Get rid of him. He is the worst GM in the history of the franchise and that includes Reagens.

Last edited 3 days ago by GonFishin
Terry
Trusted Member
3 days ago
Reply to  GonFishin

Can Montgomery now.

GonFishin
Trusted Member
3 days ago
Reply to  Terry

That too.

2002heaven
Super Member
3 days ago
Reply to  Terry

Washington hired him…..what does that tell you.
The same guy who led this team to 99 losses last season.
Expect Joe Girardi or Mike Scioscia to manage the team next year, why, because OLD RICH GUY likes old guys that can’t do their jobs anymore.

DowningDude
Legend
3 days ago
Reply to  GonFishin

“Unfinished business”

milehigh
Trusted Member
3 days ago
Reply to  GonFishin

He said what his boss said. His boss is not going to hire anyone better or anyone like Jerry ever again.

ryanfea
Super Member
3 days ago

great game

Fansince1971
Legend
3 days ago

Just curious if anyone was there tonight and specifically whether there were big loud clapping hands on the video board when the team was down by like 10 runs. Do they keep running that stuff or do they realize how silly it seems?

CAoldskoll
Trusted Member
3 days ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

Been to a few blowouts, and they still do the gerbil that crawled out of someone’s hole yelling “Day-oooh”.

TrojanBoiler
Super Member
3 days ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

This is such a weird thing to be bothered by. Literally every sports franchise in this country does this from start to finish through every game. There’s nothing uniquely sad about the Angels doing it.

Fansince1971
Legend
3 days ago
Reply to  TrojanBoiler

It bothers me universally- not just the Angels. Bother may be a little strong. More like annoys me.

Marcotor
Trusted Member
3 days ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

I think it’s the forced nature of it. “Make some noise!!!” only when told to on the board for a video of a jumping monkey, which is somwhow magical.

steelgolf
Legend
3 days ago

What a shit show.

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