Angels Tigers Postgame

The game began with a clean first inning on both sides, neither team able to put a runner aboard.

In the top of the second, the Angels struck first. Logan O’Hoppe ripped a double to left, moving Luis Rengifo who had reached on a single into scoring position. Rengifo came around to score on a Jordyn Adams groundout, giving the Halos a 1–0 edge.

Detroit answered quickly in the bottom half. Riley Greene drew a walk, Spencer Torkelson followed with a single, and Colt Keith drove in Greene with a base hit to center. A sac fly from Zach McKinstry plated Torkelson, putting the Tigers ahead 2–1.

The third inning passed quietly, but the Tigers padded their lead in the fourth. Torkelson opened with a double, and Wenceel Pérez’s RBI single extended Detroit’s advantage to 3–1.

In the fifth, the Angels’ offense delivered the biggest blow of the game. Campero homered to the left center (388) and Moore scored, tying the game. Then, Neto homered to the same spot, extending the lead.

In the 8th, Adell followed it with a homer to center. 5-3 Angels. But then, Vierling hit a homer, Jones and Torres scored. Suddenly, it was 5-6. Finishing the game is goes the same pace and the Angels fall to the Tigers. 6-5

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gitchogritchoffmypettis
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I was pretty sure that when Perry was talking about the value of meaningful games late in the season he was either kidding or doing some political stretching to say SOMETHING other than “Yeah. Don’t ask me. Ownership said we had to stand pat.”

You know. Like a California politician talking about the housing crisis or fund raisers for fire victims.

BUT NOWWWW I get it. Oakland’s got a pretty good shot at catching us. The games are meaningful because the team will be desperate to NOT finish last again. Deep stuff. Very Clinton. He said these games would be meaningful and the competition fierce. just didn’t say why.

So glad we held onto Ward and Jansen. Gonna be the best two months ever.

TrojanBoiler
Super Member
7 hours ago

My biggest takeaway from tonight is how much I want Vasgersian to be full time for the Angels.

Way better than Wayne “I-call-everything-a-base-hit-even-if-its-obviously-for-extras” Randazzo

And don’t get me started on Patty O

FungoAle
Legend
6 hours ago
Reply to  TrojanBoiler

We all have our favorites but Vasgersian is a vagabond, like a guest host who moves around. He’s not bad at all but I prefer someone with a personal connection to the team who is up to speed across the organization.

I’m good with Wayne but hate he is contracted to work Apple games and gives us Patty’O days. Wayne is not timid to be critical of the Angels play when something should be called out, something that you would normal expect our analyst to point out but he is hung up on exit velocities.

TrojanBoiler
Super Member
4 hours ago
Reply to  FungoAle

Wayne is decent. I just can’t help but notice his inability to call a double off the bat and it drives me nuts.

It could be worse though. It could be Patty all the time.

Twebur
Legend
7 hours ago

few more yutes tonight.

Angels prospect Dylan Jordan showcased a pretty special fastball tonight, serious arm side movement with ability to locate while sitting 93-95 with scattered 96’s; secondaries need some fine tuning but fun sinker-slider polish for a 5th-round project arm

https://x.com/TaylorBlakeWard/status/1954014183810564490

Marlon Quintero has prospect helium right now as a glove-first backstop, displaying future big-league tools behind the plate tonight including this 1.9 pop

https://x.com/TaylorBlakeWard/status/1954016949740220885

RexFregosi
Super Member
12 minutes ago
Reply to  Twebur

Riverside Pilots! (nice IE throwbacks last night)
MQ is just 18 and is built like a fire hydrant

Twebur
Legend
7 hours ago

someday a another bat, maybe.

Isaiah Jackson HR
The 1st of his pro career 

https://x.com/Jared_Tims/status/1954014279113523425

RexFregosi
Super Member
17 minutes ago
Reply to  Twebur

Forks up!

smithy610
Super Member
8 hours ago

Silver lining – they chased Skubal after 4, getting 6 hits, 4 ERs (2 HRs!!!) against him, while only striking out 6 times.

You would hope that with a game like that against the league’s undisputed ace, the Angels would somehow get a win.

Sigh

Pineapple12
Legend
9 hours ago

Meanwhile down on thy farm–

Victor Mederos continues to cook. Nervous to learn why he was pulled after 4 innings and 52 pitches.

4 innings
0 ER
3 hits
1 walk
6 strikeouts

Dylan Jordan also stays cooking.

3.2 innings
0 ER
3 hits
2 walks
6 strikeouts

Pineapple12
Legend
9 hours ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

Nelson Rada – 2/3, 2 runs, BB, K

Denzer Guzman – 2/5, 2 runs, 2 RBIs, 2 Ks

Isaiah Jackson (A+) – 1st career HR

Turk's Teeth
Editor
Super Member
8 hours ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

Jackson was my favorite late round draft pick the Angels executed in this year’s class, and the one that I think still has the highest ceiling, if he can make progress on improving contact quality. The glove is already there, and it’s a projectable baseball frame with solid power for center field.

Turk's Teeth
Editor
Super Member
9 hours ago

As predicted, the Twins overtook the Angels in the WC standings tonight – three game win streak mirroring the Angels three game losing streak (they just took their series against the team the Angels lost to tonight).

They sold it all for the future, and are winning in the present as well.

What’s insane is, only a week out from the trade deadline, just how senseless “stand pat” was, given the state of our AAA roster. There was a plug for almost every hole.

Anderson -> Mederos
Moncada / Rengifo -> Guzman
Ward -> Rada / Teodosio / Lugo
Jansen -> Bachman / Silseth / Southard

What the team might lose in solo HRs, they’d probably gain in defense and run prevention. I suspect they’d have no worse a record than what stand-pat got them, and ideally they’d bring back an outfield prospect and either some bullpen pieces or a backend starter in trade.

Make it make sense.

Last edited 9 hours ago by Turk's Teeth
Pineapple12
Legend
9 hours ago
Reply to  Turk's Teeth

The answer you are looking for is Arte.

Turk's Teeth
Editor
Super Member
8 hours ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

It’s Perry’s job to change his mind if that’s the case. The chief executive of a sports team gets no points for outsourcing his agency to the chief investor.

Make the rational case, make it forcefully, and demonstrate how Moreno loses more money through inaction and half-measures than choosing a path and committing.

But Minasian is still the young clubhouse attendant, gladhanding players and trying not to rock the boat.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend
Reply to  Turk's Teeth

Dude. I have literally watched more than five bosses have the facts laid out for them and still say…. “Nah. I still want to do the difficult and expensive clown show I have in my head.” Very smart people who were hired because they are good at stuff. Ignored to the point it killed companies. And that’s just my career.

Perry could have wept, screamed, and done math with colorful slides for weeks and changed nothing.

“It’s Perry’s job to change his mind”. Really? Tell me more about all these FO guys who shift their owners every year cause I seem to have missed most of them all my life. Perry’s job is to do the best he can with the boss he has and not make a dramatic reality show out of it while he works.

Perry sucks for plenty of real reasons. But this isn’t one of them. If you don’t have ownership that’ll just give you the keys then the best you can hope for is owners who just don’t care. But the FO guy who is out there changing what the owners do and think? That’s unicorn shit. May happen a handful of times, but making that the standard is poppycock.

FungoAle
Legend
7 hours ago
Reply to  Turk's Teeth

As I had been promoting back in June, selling off players does not constitute forfeiting the season. Too bad our GM is blind to that effect. This team can win without Ward and Jansen. Especially without a Moncada/Rengifo/Anderson, I’m not sure why any of these three are getting playing time today.

Most often on the flip side, players acquired at the deadline, often fail to shift the teams success rate. Unless your name is CC Sabathia for the Brewers, 11-2 with a 1.65 ERA in 17 starts Home run for the Brew Crew.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend
Reply to  Turk's Teeth

But.

You ALWAYS PLAY TO WIN! That way you never lose. Winston Churchill. As long as you ignore all the details of the situation you always lose when you trade established semi-stars for kids. It’s science.

None of those guys are sure to be better than the guys we traded. And no one to replace production. So then the team would be less meh plus and I would feel like the FO gave up on me.

And no one was going to give us a 70 grade prospect. So it would have been a total waste of several weeks of meh plus players semi-entertaining me. Prospects fail too much and I’ve never heard of those guys.

Would it help you feel better if we fired the manager and coaches? Sure it would.

And what? Did you want to punt on next year? Don’t ask me why cause I can’t tell you. But I think we’ll be “in it” again next year. Will I bitch about it when Arte says the same thing via Perry this March? Sure, but it’s because I’m a bitch, not because I’m not thinking the same thing deep down. No one can prove me wrong till we finish fourth again, and then I’ll just be angry and declare I wanted to trade at the deadline. The fish rots from the lips east.

I am old. I need this.

All we need is Kyle Tucker and a manager that shifts his rotation around every four days so that our best guy lines up with some guy on another team that we play in three weeks.

Nolan Ryan. Jim Fregosi. Jared Weaver.

Makes sense, yes?

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
10 hours ago

Both teams benefited and suffered as a result of the bad umpiring. Detmers threw a meat pitch, and to his credit, the hitter crushed it. It happens.

Terry
Trusted Member
10 hours ago

I was listening to game, after the three run homer, Terry Smith and Mark Langston were completely deflated.

Relief pitchers, they have one job, get three freakin out without imploding.

What a crushing loss.

Fansince1971
Legend
8 hours ago
Reply to  Terry

Did you really think a wildcard was in play? Crushing is a matter of perspective.

MH252525
Trusted Member
10 hours ago

Didn’t watch the game, and when I saw the boxscore I wanted to be upset with Detmers but then I saw the ab to Jones in gameday and gameday made it looked like he walked him on 4 strikes. Hard to be mad at him if that is how his inning started. Can anyone confirm it looked that bad live?

Terry
Trusted Member
10 hours ago
Reply to  MH252525

Really doesn’t matter. Trout had an AB earlier in game that was a strike against him that wasn’t called a strike.

According to Mark Langston, prior to the home run “Detmers doesn’t have it tonight.”

FungoAle
Legend
6 hours ago
Reply to  Terry

To me, Langston is so solid with his analysis. Very perceptive as well. Not afraid to call out bad effort by the home team.

TrojanBoiler
Super Member
8 hours ago
Reply to  MH252525

Gameday was wrong then. It was four pitches definitely outside of the zone. Not one of the ABs that anyone can gripe about.

Last edited 8 hours ago by TrojanBoiler
Senator_John_Blutarsky
Legend
10 hours ago

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FungoAle
Legend
6 hours ago

Love it, LMAO

Eric_in_Portland
Legend
10 hours ago

Oh well….I fear the bottom might drop out now

John Henry Weitzel
Editor
Super Member
7 hours ago

69 wins may be optimistic

FungoAle
Legend
6 hours ago

The soft goal should be to avoid last place. Before last years debacle, it had been 25-years since the last time this team finished last, LAST. I would hope we could avoid doing it again.

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