LA Angels Wednesday News Crash: STAN THE OWNER

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IT IS REAL! Arte Moreno sold the Angels to Stan Kroenke! Deal should be finalized by the first quarter of 2027.

CHRISTMAS IN SEPTEMBER
Dreams do come true…

Oh yeah, the Angels also played last night and stuff. They lost. 100 losses seem very likely now. But who cares! NEW OWNER!

Around Baseball

If there is any improvement to the CBA that needs to be done is the treatment for the MiLB. A minor league player has cancer and needs a go fund me.

Angels may be a bottom 3 team in terms of record, but are actually only 4th worst in terms of FWAR.

That is only slightly better

Seattle has been the place where hitters go to die, and even Taylor Ward cannot hit there as he fell off a cliff once traded to Seattle. Something is in the water, or the air.

Japan will have PitchCom in 2027. Also universal DH. Pitch clock and other rule changes may happen as well. The universal DH will cause Ishikawa to retire, as the 46 year old pitcher has hit in 24 straight seasons.

Ketel Marte is burning all the bridges as his hat literally encourages it. The Arizona batter has been gone for 2 weeks due to a casino trip and other stuff.

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Bl0chead
Member
3 hours ago

I hate to admit but I’m gonna enjoy having an owner with “F You” money.

Least these billionaires can do is put on a good show for everyone and spend that shit.

FungoAle
Legend
5 hours ago

Rockies and A’s won, there is only one thing left to do tonight Halos and it rhymes with booze

Pineapple12
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3 hours ago
Reply to  FungoAle

Detmers masterclass too plz

RexFregosi
Legend
3 hours ago
Reply to  FungoAle

Snooze

Turk's Teeth
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5 hours ago

Just some more Gavin Grahovac porn to keep us all in the game:

https://twitter.com/milb_central/status/2095137827851768012

The Anaheim native has boosted his marks to a 144 wRC+, is slashing .298/.398/.607, and is the active stolen base leader on the club with 13 over his first 22 games.

They’ll be calling it GavAnaheim soon enough.

Pineapple12
Legend
6 hours ago

My Clippers got royally punished LOL.
Can Kroenke buy them too 😂😂😂?

YOUknowulovetheIE
Super Member
6 hours ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

Clips get the well deserved punishment and lebron/klutch sports dont run the lakers anymore. What a nice off season.

FungoAle
Legend
5 hours ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

IMHO, Balmer should be stripped of ownership

Pineapple12
Legend
5 hours ago
Reply to  FungoAle

He should simply for being successfully blackmailed by Kawhi’s uncle lol. He already delivered us Intuit Dome, and has managed to destroy our future. His services are no longer needed

Bl0chead
Member
3 hours ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

Same bro, but I think Ballmer drops a fat stack to stick it to the league.

Clips aren’t the only team doing this, just the only ones caught red-handed.

He’s gonna take Silver down with him

TrojanBoiler
Super Member
7 hours ago

The number of new people who commented in the Arte thread yesterday is incredible. HOPE SPRINGS ETERNAL.

dontbatvlad4th
Member
5 hours ago
Reply to  TrojanBoiler

A lot of us just waiting in the wings for when this team is worth us investing our time like the old days.

Jeff Joiner
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Legend
8 hours ago

completely depends on the rest of the development. Ideally I think the ballpark should be the focal point of the area. The Battery in Atlanta has walkways with restaurants and condos that lead to the ballpark.

Jim Atkins
Super Member
8 hours ago

Convenient to ARTIC or what ever the transit hub is called. Moving sidewalk or walkways to the stadium. Took the El to the game at Wrigley and the trolley in San Diego. Incredibly convenient and incredibly cheap compared to parking!

Jim Atkins
Super Member
8 hours ago

Forgot- KEEP THE HATS AND THE BIG A!!!!!

FungoAle
Legend
8 hours ago

Yes, carve it out to maximize fan access from restaurants, bars and entertainment. I’d personally would like the Big A back in left field, have the light bars go reverse direction after a home run, light the halo, or some celebratory. Reduce seating capacity, maybe rotate park for a in a more directional North position, 5:00 PM games are brutal in RF. Ditch the big hats and rocks.

Last edited 8 hours ago by FungoAle
2pints
Super Member
7 hours ago

Get rid of the stupid big hats. Let people buy them and put them up where they want. It’d be awesome to see a local cleaners buy it and put it on their roof.

cookmeister
Trusted Member
6 hours ago

It’ll be either North of the current stadium (East of The Grove and next to the train drop off)

or

the Southeast side of the lot along Orangewood and the riverbank

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend

Wait. None of those are in West Los Angeles….

RexFregosi
Legend
3 hours ago

Northridge ?

RexFregosi
Legend
3 hours ago

site

Wherever Stanley wants to put a new billion dollar stadium in SoCal is fine by me.

TapatioMan
Trusted Member
10 hours ago

Sup peeps, been a minute since I’ve commented, though I’ve lurked and closely consumed all the draft and prospect content (thanks btw, TT).

Been away mostly due to some big changes in my life — my growing little family (a nearly 3-year-old and, more recently, the birth of my second child), finishing up school, finally starting work in my career field a few months ago, and, well, the painful reality of being an Angels fan these past several years.

I’m not proud to admit this, but my love for baseball started slipping away from me. While it was never completely gone, the other demands in my life gradually pushed it further into the background. Baseball went from something I used to obsess over to something I could go days or weeks without thinking much about, and the passion that remained was ultimately overshadowed by disappointment, shame, and disgust toward ownership and the rot it brought to my childhood team. I think one reason I love prospects is *because* you can dream on them in a way that just hasn’t been possible with the big league club.

This news is huge. I’d love to dream again. I’d love to start enjoying baseball again. I’d love to excise this baseball grudge that’s been festering for years. Don’t buttercup this, Arte.

Jeff Joiner
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9 hours ago
Reply to  TapatioMan

Congrats on all those fronts. Being a dad is the greatest thing ever and it definitely puts sports into perspective.

ErSTAN
Super Member
9 hours ago
Reply to  TapatioMan

Feel exactly the same. I also have two Littles under 8. The combo of the hopelessness and literally less time has made thr MLB (my first love) not really matter. Hopefully the new CBA, whenever it’s done, and this ownership will bring my heart back.

YOUknowulovetheIE
Super Member
9 hours ago
Reply to  TapatioMan

It’s been really cool seeing all of you guys return

steelgolf
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7 hours ago
Reply to  TapatioMan

Congratulations on the kids, and yes, family and adulting are more important than baseball.

Pineapple12
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10 hours ago

“Kroenke intends to build a new $2.5 billion ballpark to replace aging and decaying Angel Stadium, which opened in 1966 and has been refurbished at least twice”

https://www.forbes.com/sites/barrymbloom/2026/09/02/stan-kroenke-to-buy-angels-from-arte-moreno-in-second-recent-mlb-sale/

BruinsAngelsKings
Trusted Member
10 hours ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

If true….wow…..just WOW! That’s all I got.

TrojanBoiler
Super Member
9 hours ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

Interesting. I don’t see this being reported anywhere else but if this is true its HUGE.

ErSTAN
Super Member
9 hours ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

Bricked up! 🍤

TrojanBoiler
Super Member
9 hours ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

But intends to build it WHERE exaclty?

TrojanBoiler
Super Member
9 hours ago

If this is his intention, I wouldn’t be surprised if he already has a deal in the works

Senator_John_Blutarsky
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Reply to  Pineapple12

I want to believe, but this is California. Unless he already has the land and navigated the regulatory colonoscopy, it’s most likely premature for KSE to make a declaration with a dollar amount attached.

cookmeister
Trusted Member
9 hours ago

It’ll be in the parking lot. It’s hard to explain, but with a recent new law, Kroenke has financial incentives and gives the ability to develop the land

FungoAle
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8 hours ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

Yeah, you know he will with HIS dollars. What could be better? Wish he could buy the land too. Need to start grooming the city politicians to not be a detriment.

Like him or love him, the governor signed that ridiculous bill to enforce the team re-naming Anaheim Angels.

Last edited 8 hours ago by FungoAle
milehigh
Trusted Member
7 hours ago
Reply to  FungoAle

I think the bill was only to put Anaheim somewhere in the name?

Marcotor
Trusted Member
6 hours ago
Reply to  milehigh

From the bill synopsis:

“If the city obtains an exemption from a state law requiring affordable housing to be prioritized in any such development — potentially maximizing revenue for the team — then the team must be called the Anaheim Angels.”

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  FungoAle

That bill’s so fking stupid and Anaheim is a city full of twats

TrojanBoiler
Super Member
5 hours ago

Is it stupid though? I realize that Anaheim would still have to apply for an exemption to allow development that doesn’t include low-income housing, but it seems like this bill acts almost like a pre-approval if the state signed this stipulation into law.

Anaheim basically got two birds with one stone. They have the state already expecting an exemption request which, if approved, makes the land significantly more attractive to developers. And then the icing on top is they would their city name back on the team by receiving such an exemption.

Last edited 5 hours ago by TrojanBoiler
Turk's Teeth
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5 hours ago
Reply to  TrojanBoiler

Still wishing on a Disney star for the opposite outcome:

Add some affordable housing because it’s the good and charitable thing to do in an expensive metro, and call the team the California Angels because it’s classic, recalls when I got into the team, and speaks to the largest market.

Marcotor
Trusted Member
5 hours ago
Reply to  Turk's Teeth

Unlikely MLB would allow it, given the number of teams in the state, fond memories of the beloved cowboy notwithstanding.

Turk's Teeth
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4 hours ago
Reply to  Marcotor

They were the California Angels for 32 continuous seasons (longer than any other version), and in two years, California will have one less team than there was through those 32 seasons.

If MLB has a beef, it’s a new and quite arbitrary one.

TrojanBoiler
Super Member
4 hours ago
Reply to  Turk's Teeth

My only issue with this is then why keep the Angels name? The team should have rebranded years ago when they moved to Anaheim and claimed California as the location.

At least with Anaheim Angels, you could argue that the team is within the vicinity of the original Spanish mission that the name Los Angeles is derived from. Applying Angels to the whole state makes no sense though.

2pints
Super Member
4 hours ago
Reply to  TrojanBoiler

there’s a ton of teams whose names make no sense for where they are located. I’m sure Utah has some great jazz clubs, but their basketball team could definitely use a name change.

Turk's Teeth
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3 hours ago
Reply to  TrojanBoiler

I think that argument actually defeats itself on its own terms.

Because obviously the missions weren’t unique or localized to Anaheim – the system was a statewide project that stretched up and down the coast, thus befitting the greater scale of the California name – and a not-too-subtle reminder of the Franciscans’ warrior mascots deployed to turn native Californians into terrified house elves.

Even the PCL Angels were hosted in three different parks in the southland, going back to 1903, and never in Anaheim.
The Anaheim rebranding was an ephemeral Disney initiative to better capitalize on its collective tourist holdings.

When the Spanish first docked in San Francisco Bay in the 18th century, they named the first land mass they saw Angel Island, and angels were key to early SF iconography – all over the Palace of Fine Arts.

milehigh
Trusted Member
7 hours ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

Aligned with this is an article in The Athletic by Sam Blum.
Response by Anaheim’s mayor, ““I feel like it’s my birthday,” Aitken said — with an audible laugh — during an interview with The Athletic. “As a diehard Angels fan my entire life, I am so optimistic about the future of Anaheim Angels baseball.”

“Not to put the cart ahead of the horse,” Aitken said, “but if the deal goes through, and if it’s approved by Major League Baseball, then I’m very hopeful that he’s going to want to work with the city to come up with a really innovative development plan that would benefit the residents. Youth sports fields and housing, and potentially hotel development. And make it a vibrant place.”

She also hopes that new ownership will be open to renaming the team the Anaheim Angels. The club has had Los Angeles in its name since 2005, when the City of Anaheim sued the team and lost in civil court.
Last week, California Gov. Gavin Newsom signed the “Home Run for Anaheim Act” — a bill that was brought by an Orange County assembly member and would provide tax breaks and incentives if the team renames the club with the Anaheim moniker. Notably, Kroenke’s news release referred to the team by its former name, the Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim. The usage “of Anaheim” was dropped by current team management in 2015.

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Legend
11 hours ago

The hiring/promotion of Molly Jolly should have been the first sign (maybe it was?) that Arte had decided to sell. The firing of Perry and the hiring of Moz reinforced the change in Arte’s ownership behaviors. Moz went as far as to say “he didn’t talk to Moreno” when he was hired.

For a micromanaging owner, that was very unusual.

Once Arte decided to sell, he stepped back from being the de facto POBO. I’m guessing that Arte negotiated with only KSE, and KSE had insights into the changes. If this were open to multiple bidders, it’s unlikely it would have remained quiet.

It’s a happy day. We’re joining the ranks of being a “real” sports franchise. There’s still much work to be done, but it feels like we’ve found the north star and our journey is on course in the right direction.

YOUknowulovetheIE
Super Member
11 hours ago

Just my thoughts, but I’m guessing any new buyer wanted the lawsuit with skaggs’ family over with before they decided to buy.

2pints
Super Member
11 hours ago

correct, along with them not signing any long-term contracts, both for players and the manager/GM (who is now gone).

YOUknowulovetheIE
Super Member
10 hours ago
Reply to  2pints

Clean slate for everyone. Long overdue, but feels good to finally reach the end of the tunnel after staring at the light for 15 years.

RexFregosi
Legend
9 hours ago

Molly has been even more impressive than Moz

Senator_John_Blutarsky
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Reply to  RexFregosi

Fully agree

Fansince1971
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43 minutes ago
Reply to  RexFregosi

I wonder if new management will keep her?

Texan44
Trusted Member
11 hours ago

The WAR chart is interesting. This shows the distance from Angels to first place in the West is about +12 (Rangers 32.2 – Angels 20.3). That sounds like a bunch but when you look at the team for 2026 and remove the negative players and replace with league average players it is not that far from reality. We all know for the Angels to contend in the West (Not saying win the World Series) is to get 12 -20 “better players.” Not super stars, that won’t help because you need to improve the entire roster first. I see it as very doable for next season.

And for some improvements in performance from the younger players.

These are Angels team WAR on Baseball Reference.

https://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/LAA/2026.shtml

Texan44
Trusted Member
11 hours ago
Reply to  Texan44

And not trying to kick a team when its down, but if you look at the Pythagorean W-L, you already pick up 8 wins. Can we say “with a different Manager.” That cuts the “games behind” in half.

WallyChuckChili
Legend
10 hours ago
Reply to  Texan44

We would have been in 1st place if we had kept Wash and his 15 war!

steelgolf
Legend
6 hours ago

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

RexFregosi
Legend
9 hours ago
Reply to  Texan44

Or if we kept the same salary as last year and replaced TW’s contract.

2026 salary is over $50 million less than last year, right?

Jeff Joiner
Editor
Legend
7 hours ago
Reply to  RexFregosi

Payroll is down roughly $80 million if you look at actual cash flow. By AAV it is $50 million because they are counting Rendon’s full salary.

Stephenson and Mondada makes another $15 million off the books.

The Angels have a decent sized arbitration class led by Detmers and Neto, but payroll will be much lower in 2027 than it was in 2025 and there’s honestly not a ton of good free agents.

WallyChuckChili
Legend
12 hours ago

I’m not still buzzing. In fact my head hurts! Stomach turning and I’m Never Drinking Again!

Could somebody pass me a Beer?

TrojanBoiler
Super Member
8 hours ago

I was a good boy last night.

But I have a college buddy in town visiting tonight so I’ll have a little delayed celebration.

ryanfea
Super Member
13 hours ago

With new ownership and the wealth he has, we should be rooting for a salary cap to NOT be implemented right?

milehigh
Trusted Member
13 hours ago
Reply to  ryanfea

Imho, we should still be rooting for a salary cap and floor. Rooting even more for MLB owners to demand total revenue sharing including all revenue from team owned networks.

Turk's Teeth
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6 hours ago
Reply to  milehigh

I’m still ok with cap and floor if it comes with ownership who is willing to invest heavily in domestic and international scouting, development, player ops, analytics, training tech and facilities…

LAA already has geographic advantages if players think it also has a well-resourced and winning culture as well.

HalosFanForLife
Super Member
6 hours ago
Reply to  Turk's Teeth

I agree – hold off a year on a Free Agent signing and invest $20 to $25 million one time in a new DR facility that will blow all the others away. Serious upgrade to Tempe. Go get the best development team money can buy. If he’s spending $4.5 billion – invest another $100 million to be the cream of the crop. Yes – he’ll need to pay more to get the best – but if he doesn’t turn it into a winner – then this will be a dramatic overpay.

Pineapple12
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6 hours ago
Reply to  Turk's Teeth

I think it’s a foregone conclusion Kroenke will invest heavily in domestic and international scouting, development, player ops, analytics, training tech and facilities.

They’ve proven they know how to run a professional sports team across the different major sports.

FungoAle
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13 hours ago
Reply to  ryanfea

Steve Balmer would say so. He was constantly frustrated he could not utilize his billions to stack his Clippers roster so he circumvented the NBA salary cap.

Pineapple12
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13 hours ago
Reply to  FungoAle

Not Ballmer’s fault the rest of the billionaire owners cry poor.

I switch my vote to no salary cap in baseball. What desperately needs to happen is regulating max contract length and AAV, and no deferrals.

Last edited 13 hours ago by Pineapple12
BruinsAngelsKings
Trusted Member
11 hours ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

I tend to agree about regulating max contract length and AAV, and no deferrals.

Marcotor
Trusted Member
6 hours ago

So, where a deferral would be an advantage to teams like the Nats (where Steven Strassberg is still collecting payments) since it is already funded and off the books, you would deny a team the ability to pay today’s players with tomorrows money, and keep any excess dollars made?

FungoAle
Legend
10 hours ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

I have been against the cap, let freedom ring but the deferral thing should be addressed. It’s circumvention but MLB needs to strengthen the rules.

I’m ok with contract length, teams can cut their own wrists. Xander Bogaerts….eek.

Big contracts don’t guarantee anything in baseball, unlike the NBA. I like you, big fan of NHL, best spectator sport going these days.

BruinsAngelsKings
Trusted Member
10 hours ago
Reply to  FungoAle

 I like you, big fan of NHL, best spectator sport going these days.

So true. Nothing better to watch in person!

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend
Reply to  ryanfea

I still want a cap. The NFL is great because The Bills and Packers can compete with the Cowboys and Giants. Where “rich” teams like we have apparently become can blow past the Clevelands of the world is on our farm and scouting and development and coaching, etc etc etc.

Pineapple12
Legend
10 hours ago

Would a cap be good for the entire sport? Yes.

Would a cap be good for the Angels, who will soon have the richest owner in baseball? No.

If Kroenke wants to spend let him spend. We the fans will reap the benefits. Don’t hate the player, hate the game.

TrojanBoiler
Super Member
9 hours ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

I think by saying we don’t like an uncapped league, we are hating the game and not the player

Edit: Unless that player is the Dodgers because F them

Last edited 9 hours ago by TrojanBoiler
ryanfea
Super Member
7 hours ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

Yeah this was the perspective I was taking. A purely selfish, what’s the best option to make the Angels better than anyone else

TrojanBoiler
Super Member
9 hours ago

This is exactly how I feel. Uncapped league suck.

TrojanBoiler
Super Member
9 hours ago
Reply to  ryanfea

I am not going to change my opinion because of the change in ownership. An uncapped league ruins the product on the field because of the lack of parity. Nobody likes seeing the same teams win every single year; it sucks and its bad for the sport.

That being said, I am not going to complain if there ends up not being a cap and the Angels end up spending a ton of money.

TrojanBoiler
Super Member
8 hours ago
Reply to  TrojanBoiler

After all these years of suffering, it would feel kind of hollow to win a championship by outspending everyone.

Pineapple12
Legend
8 hours ago
Reply to  TrojanBoiler

You think that but all of my Dodger friends are very fulfilled haha

Marcotor
Trusted Member
6 hours ago
Reply to  ryanfea

it’s great news for Angel fans.

BUT this irrational exuberance is a little early.

SK is a businessman first. The Angels would have to be profitable enough. I don’t get this idea a magical rich owner would just pour their personal fortune in a team to satisfy fans. Cohen tried that, saw the P&L and pulled back. When successful, the Angels could potentially tap a large revenue stream, but the days of a TV contract covering 75% of the MLB payroll are long past.

I’ve said before, I think this idea goes back for us to the tired “Cowboy opens his saddlebags” or “Autry, Kroc and Steinbrenner are ruining baseball” headlines of the early free-agent era. Stan, his family, his organization are not backing up a truck and pouring money in year after year. It’s not happening.

Now, there may be a period of targeted investments, in player personnel, the development systems, maybe even a stadium deal.

I guarantee you SK is NOT going to operate this team at a loss as a vanity project.

2pints
Super Member
6 hours ago
Reply to  Marcotor

If he’s won championships in every other sport, he might go crazy to secure one in MLB thinking that’s a cool legacy for him to have. You never know.

Pineapple12
Legend
6 hours ago
Reply to  Marcotor

It’s not even about him going drunken sailor in free agency. KSE will be THE RICHEST owner in baseball. I don’t want salary cap rules put into place that can hamstring our ability to flex our monetary advantage.

I want the rules to favor the Angels not the rest of the league.

milehigh
Trusted Member
5 hours ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

Guggenheim Partners are worth over $300 billion.

Pineapple12
Legend
5 hours ago
Reply to  milehigh

That is until Walter is forced to sell 🔮🔮🔮
You are right idk why I said richest lol

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend

Sooooo….. I’m guessing everyone around here is excited about Orlando Arcia’s return to MLB baseball today right?

I’m curious, totally speculating, but I have always liked Ketel Marte, and now he’s kind of nuts. Has he had a head injury in the last couple years? Beaned in the head or a collision or car crash? I don’t mean that as a joke. He reminds me of Antonio Brown. I loved Antonio Brown, but he got his head scrambled by an illegal hit against the Bengals in a play off game. He’d been a little eccentric in the past, but it was good natured and he was serious about being a team mate and a Steeler. After that knock out he just went coo coo. I wonder if Marte has something like that going on cause clearly he wants to stop suffering through a successful baseball career at this point.

Are you excited? I’m excited. Be on the lookout for earth shattering irrelevant decisions that get completely ignored as the Angels new ownership hopefully hires numbers crunchers, video techs, scouts in the sticks, coaches in towns you hope to never visit as well as a POBOEIEIOGM of BOPPAD and their six assistant GMs and Vice Presidents. No one will care, almost no one, but that’ll be our team starting to not suck.

I don’t really want to sign any big free agents this winter but…. Maybe we should bring back Taylor Ward? Ward/Rada/Meckler/Lowe OF with Trout at DH and sometimes OF? I actually think that Lowe can get a respectable OPS next year….

I still hate the Dodgers.

YOUknowulovetheIE
Super Member
11 hours ago

Ward? This is a joke, right?

FungoAle
Legend
10 hours ago

I am frightened that he is serious

Born_in_59
Trusted Member
9 hours ago

After the season he’s had, Ward isn’t going to be signing a $12M contract next year. He was a 3 WAR player in 25, and while he’s sucking in Seattle he was a 2.6 WAR player in Baltimore and played good defense on top of that. Depending on what he’d sign for, Ward should be better than the blackhole the team had in leftfield this year.

TrojanBoiler
Super Member
9 hours ago
Reply to  Born_in_59

Don’t you DARE besmirch the Meck

Born_in_59
Trusted Member
9 hours ago
Reply to  TrojanBoiler

I have no problem with how well Meck has hit, but LF has contributed -10 Defensive Runs Saved (BBREF defensive component for WAR) so far this season, while Ward was a +6 in Baltimore.

TrojanBoiler
Super Member
9 hours ago
Reply to  Born_in_59

Interesting, Meck is +4 overall but -2 in left field.

YOUknowulovetheIE
Super Member
9 hours ago
Reply to  Born_in_59

His defense is the last thing this team needs in the outfield, no thanks.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend

Yeah. Who wants +6 DRS? Not us. nope.

YOUknowulovetheIE
Super Member
2 hours ago

C’mon man, those are in Baltimore..he would be playing here in anaheim so those stats are irrelevant. I noticed you left out the stats of his last few years playing here which are 🤢🤢

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend
Reply to  Born_in_59

See, exactly. He was solid in Balto. Now he sucks for a little while. If we can get him cheap, maybe we should get him cheap. 3 WAR is something our batting order could use. If we got that for say 7 million a year for a couple years? Why not?

Or go with the CtPG plan, don’t look anything up, and then blather something stupid about him… while declaring Perry was stupidz.

2pints
Super Member
5 hours ago

I’d rather go with the Gitch-of-yesteryear’s plan…MOAR KIDZZZ…instead of signing a 33 yo Taylor Ward to a new free agent contract, which I’m sure would require a commitment of multiple years.

YOUknowulovetheIE
Super Member
2 hours ago
Reply to  2pints

Makes zero sense to bring that fool back at any cost. Trout needs the DH spot and a quick LF if he plans on playing CF. Ward defense was ass here his last few years, no idea how it improves if he returns 2 years older.

RexFregosi
Legend
9 hours ago

Ketel Ketel Ketel……

Hope he gets the Dbacks into the playoffs and I’m glad the Angels didn’t grab him.

He disappeared mid season last year too for a stretch. He just wants his own mid season break.

FungoAle
Legend
13 hours ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

Good article. It will be interesting to see how they build out the organization under KSE. Mo will probably stop making front office changes now and see how this all plays out. Not sure what the future holds for Jolly and we all had concerns with he lack of baseball ops background.

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
12 hours ago
Reply to  FungoAle

Her job may change but she will likely still be here. Good organizations need really good finance people and she is one.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend
Reply to  Roy Hobbs

People lose site of the fact that a big chunk of what a GM/POBO does is actually contract/legal stuff….

Jeff Joiner
Editor
Legend
9 hours ago
Reply to  FungoAle

Molly doesn’t pretend to be a baseball ops person. She knows how to get the team financially solvent so the baseball ops people can do their jobs. Oh, and she’s pretty good at finding people who are good at their jobs.

That’s the huge difference between her and Carpino. That and the fact Molly is pleasant to talk to and understands that the team belongs to the fans, not her.

TrojanBoiler
Super Member
9 hours ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

I would imagine most teams run best with a non-baseball person in this role. Sports leagues as a whole certainly think so.

Every league commissioner I know of is a lawyer or marketing person, not a former player or coach. Rob Manfred was just a lawyer that got involved in MLB working on the CBA and his role grew from there. Roger Goodell was a PR guy in his early days. Adam Silver is a lawyer who started his career in politics.

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
12 hours ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

Good stuff.

Jeff Joiner
Editor
Legend
9 hours ago
Reply to  Roy Hobbs

Thank you.

GrandpaBaseball
Legend
13 hours ago

Still on Cloud 9, Arturo gone is just almost too hard to wrap my head around. Even with a cup of Joe steaming in my hand as I use my finger to type (I’m a southpaw) the excitement is still there and the thoughts that mean I may even see the team become winners again brings a happy smile. Thank-you Arturo for leaving and don’t worry about your legacy, you will receive what you deserve.

Last edited 13 hours ago by GrandpaBaseball
HalosFanForLife
Super Member
13 hours ago

This needs to be stopped. What are we doing? MLB is proposing not letting US players to sign until they are 20 – but they can go get foreign talent for huge discounts and make agreements at 12? They are building factories in the DR for cheaper labor. Their exemption needs to be stripped by Congress. I’m not talking about the Tatis deals and stuff like that – but the everyday player is at a discount.

https://x.com/BSBSCOUT/status/2095035826216284528?s=20

milehigh
Trusted Member
13 hours ago

This will be one of the biggest arguments between MLB and MLBPA. While the MLB proposes raising the signing for U.S. born players to 20 by September 1 of the draft year, they also propose raising the international age to 18 (16 right now). That is a big problem and may not get worked soon.

But this is part of the negotiated labor agreement between MLB and MLBPA. Removing the trust exemption wouldn’t have any effect on this. Draft rules, age at signing, that kind of stuff is negotiated and outside of the trust exemption. Agree, this going down to 12 year olds stuff needs to be stopped, but other MLB owners need to put a stop to this.

Fansince1971
Legend
12 hours ago

12 in the Dominican = 20 in the US

HalosFanForLife
Super Member
14 hours ago

In Kronk we trust.

thekronk
steelgolf
Legend
15 hours ago

And now ……. the Uggghhhh News. Reports are that Arte will still own a small portion of the Angels (I guess he still wants to go to games?).
In another note, being surrounded by transplanted New Yorkers, that are Yankee fans, at the game last night was excruciating. Holy crap, how can a gaggle of these douchebags all congregate into that stadium and how is it that you can spot them walking through the stadium, like their own breed of arrogance and jackass. Yeesh. I was given free tickets in section 208, that included the “Preferred Parking, from a vendor. Now I am questioning my choice of going to the game AND my choice of vendors. When I was in New York last sumner I didn’t run into that many! And I was right there in the midst of the breeding hive!!!

HalosFanForLife
Super Member
15 hours ago
Reply to  steelgolf

So let me start by saying – I can’t stand the Yankees now and love to see them lose almost as much as the Dodgers. But I lived about 4 miles from the old Yankees Stadium for about 5 years. One of the coolest places ever to watch a game. When I started going – pre-Jeter – they were terrible. You could scalp tickets right behind home plate for chump change. I would go to games often – but just to see baseball. But have to admit – when they weren’t playing against other teams I kind of liked, I’d get caught up with the fans and join in the cheering and jeering – but deep down not really caring. There’s just an energy there.

One year, my buddy and I had started having a few before the game and decided it was nice out – let’s go to the game to see Frank Thomas. Well Thomas sat – and Dave Martinez was at 1B for the White Sox. By the time the game started – we had a pretty good glow going. We got lucky and had second row seats right be 1B. In the first or second inning, Martinez botches a ground ball. My liquid confidence was running high. I heckle him better than the typical Yankee fan – yes – I was an ass. “Hey Martinez – you know that’s why they gave you a glove.” “Hey Martinez, I didn’t know Nike made boots.” The guy scores, “Hey Martinez – that’s your run. Totally on you.” Even though he smirked a couple of times, I could see the look on his face as he shook his head, “These Yankees fans are the biggest assholes.” Little did he know I wasn’t really one of them, I was just drunk.

The next half of the inning, my memory has it that Martinez smokes a two run double and the Sox take the lead. He comes out to take the field and looks over at me with a shit eating grin – and a look of like “how about that – what do you have to say now?” I tip my hat to him – he smiles and takes a bow. When he turns to watch the pitch I yell, “It should be 2-0 (or whatever the score was) and he almost couldn’t stop laughing.

steelgolf
Legend
14 hours ago

I would not have minded some creative heckling, I would have found that to be funny and maybe joined in. This was not that. I even heard the jabronies behind me loudly proclaiming the greatness of “Holy Saint Jeetah” , and not to anyone or any specific player, it was just that they had this insatiable need to call out his name ,

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend

It’s a people watching game. Like “Gay or European?” or “Rich Kid or Cowboy?”. “Drunk Asshole or Yankees/Red Sox fan?”

HalosFanForLife
Super Member
13 hours ago

Is that first one redundant? Drunk asshole Yankees fans are the worst – especially the European ones.

Jeff Joiner
Editor
Legend
9 hours ago

I’ll take Yankees fan over Red Sox fan every day. And there are fewer fights in those series than a single Dodgers game.

Apparently we are lucky to not have to deal with Phillies fans in droves.

BruinsAngelsKings
Trusted Member
8 hours ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

Wasn’t it Philadelphia fans who famously threw snowballs at Santa Claus? Granted, they were Eagles fans, but still, it was Philly.

steelgolf
Legend
6 hours ago

Yes, and batteries at an opposing outfield player on the field.

HalosFanForLife
Super Member
4 hours ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

I was in Boston for an Angels game. Big Pappy walk off. What a bunch of pricks they were.

2pints
Super Member
4 hours ago

I saw a game there years ago, Weaver vs. Schilling. Figgins led off with a HR, but later in the game Papi hit a go-ahead grand slam. I hated it, but it was also pretty cool to be there for it. I was in an Angels jersey, rooting way too loudly after Figgy’s HR, but everyone around me was fun and kind.

HaloLew
Trusted Member
11 hours ago

I’ve been to Angels/Yankees games here at home and in the Bronx. Hands down, the “fans” here are the worst. The fans in NY are super engaged in the game – not on their phones, know their shit, and while they did razz me a bit, were respectful that I was an Angels fan. The people who come to Anaheim to root on the Yankees are posers.

HalosFanForLife
Super Member
11 hours ago
Reply to  HaloLew

100% Agree. Not even the same thing.

Jeff Joiner
Editor
Legend
9 hours ago
Reply to  HaloLew

I think there’s a drive to prove they are real fans. Just like the fans in Boston were pretty cool with my wearing an Angels jersey in Fenway. Not that a pilgrimage to Fenway is unique, but it does show a person is a true baseball fan and appreciates the history of the game.

Meanwhile, the Sux fans here are trying to hard to be Fever Pitch guy with a huge dose of testosterone bro that they are total assholes.

BruinsAngelsKings
Trusted Member
8 hours ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

The yankee and bawstan doucehnozzles are the reason I do NOT attend an Angels game against those two teams.

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Legend
14 hours ago
Reply to  steelgolf

I’ll try to find the article, but I read that KSE bought all of Moreno’s share of the franchise, but did not/has not yet negotiated with the “fractional” (minority) parties that own shares in the franchise.

I would’nt be surprised if Arte gave equity shares to his loyal minions like Kuhl and Carpino.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend
Reply to  steelgolf

Seriously? Are we gonna be total fking children about this? “Eeeeeew! Arte still owns a fractional share of the team! Make it go away!”

You can take away the Arte but the fanbase is still high percentage bitch. Even on the day they get what they want most as fans.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend
Reply to  steelgolf

I think it’s like Red Sawx fans. The actual BOSTONIAN Sox fans I know are great. It’s when you move them out of New England that they rot. Then you have their kids, or even just “guy who became a Sox fan because it’s cool”. They are worse.

smithy610
Super Member
16 hours ago

Jolly and Mozeliak didn’t offer a timeline of when Moreno started to get serious about selling the club and said they were generally surprised by the news. Neither has communicated with KSE just yet, but both said things will remain business as usual for now.

“This was news to me,” Mozeliak said. “When I first came here, I spoke with Arte and he had mentioned that this was a possibility, but to learn this morning from Molly, I was definitely surprised, but it wasn’t a shocker. I think it’s exciting news for everybody. Change is what I came in to try to start doing.”​

Well yeah, when a crap owner is gone it’s exciting news for everybody!

Jolly, though, said it’s too early in the process to see how things will play out but that there’s a sense of a positive buzz throughout the organization.

“It’s an exciting day,” Jolly said. “Arte loves the Angels, but to have the next owner be Kroenke Sports & Entertainment, and have that caliber of owner who has been successful with teams in every major sports league, I think is fantastic for the organization, for the fans, for our partners, for the players.”

Oh fans care about winning again under a new owner!!

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