LA Angels Tuesday News Crash: Stove

This article is about the way things might go in the Anthony Rendon negotiations. Christian Moore moving to third base is mentioned as a possibility. The Angels are done picking coaches. Dom Chiti is back.

Mike Soroka got a one year deal with the Diamondbacks for $7.5 Million plus possible incentives. This is pending a physical. The Padres signed right-hander Daison Acosta to a one year major league contract. The Rays will sign Steven Matz.

The Nationals are open to trading CJ Abrams, but they are asking a lot. His defense at shortstop is questionable, as is his OBP. I hope the Angels can find a different solution for their third base issue.

Michael Stefanic got a minor league deal with an invite from the Athletics. Reliever Carl Edwards Jr. got a minor league deal with the Mets. He has a non-roster spring training invitation. The Rangers got infielder/outfielder Tyler Wade on a minor league contract with an invitation.

Photo credit: Rex Fregosi

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Senator_John_Blutarsky
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No surprise – we landed at #12 in the 2026 draft.

FungoAle
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1 day ago

Depends how deep this draft year is but we can do some
damage at 12. Sure to be a ton of middle relievers available.

Pineapple12
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1 day ago
Reply to  FungoAle

Jackson Flora, UCSB SP. Reunite Bremner with his boy and lean on Gaucho power

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  Pineapple12

Flora’s got STUFF. I bet if he does well this year he’s first college arm off the board. I realistically hope we get AJ Garcia from Virginia. He’s a good OF, has pop and is a solid contact hitter from the left side.

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MarineLayer
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1 day ago

If you’re going to draft outside the top 20 at #2, it really doesn’t matter which slot they got. They will draft under it to save money.

steelgolf
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1 day ago

That means the first relief pitcher chosen in the draft will be at #12.

GrandpaBaseball
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1 day ago

For those who think or believe that Perry has a clue. Perry likes to believe he is a brilliant GM at drafting in the first round by buying into drafting in the first round with a lower than rated player so he can save money to sign the lower rd picks. Well, I believe Moore is a example. When we drafted Moore, it really was not a big surprise because he let it out that the team was interested in Moore who at best showed some promise but, as a later rd one pick. Last draft he did the same and almost every draft before also. But in order to accomplish results in performing this trick you have to know more about who is in the draft rather than winging it as though you are throwing at pictures with darts. Even with a much better owner I don’t believe PTP is a very good GM at all. Would you on a gamble brought in Soler and his salary? Who would you have likely picked in the last two drafts with your 1st rd. picks? Would you have drafted all pitchers in a draft?

Does Perry really know what he is doing, does he have an organizational place in place to follow. Is he tough enough, smart enough or care enough to stand up to Arturo when it matters? My answer is NO to all above. But no matter what happens now, no matter the FA signings or trades or deals with the washed up, we still will finish last in ’26. Not even the Braves can save PTP the smartest man in the draft room, just ask him.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Perry believes he’s brilliant? Source?

Marcotor
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1 day ago

feelz

GrandpaBaseball
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10 hours ago

I read in a baseball book that was printed the second Tuesday of the first week of Septober.

MarineLayer
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1 day ago

He has shown no indication he is anything other than a paid intern.

steelgolf
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1 day ago

I would have never brought in Soler, even if he was only 2 mil a year. He is a high “k” rate guy who is one dimensional. He is a waste of a roster spot.

Pineapple12
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1 day ago

Perry is a funny dude. If collecting former Braves was an Olympic sport …

“The Los Angeles Angels are acquiring infielder Vaughn Grissom in a trade with the Boston Red Sox, sources tell ESPN”

https://x.com/i/status/1998477185578135947

Last edited 1 day ago by Pineapple12
Jeff Joiner
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1 day ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

Beat me to it. Yes, former Brave is a must for Perry.

He’s declined with the bat significantly in 3 consecutive years but he’s only 23 years old.

GrandpaBaseball
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1 day ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

The brave Braves are thinking the Minasian is really dumb, but they take our trash, so who is the smart one here? But PTP still manages to come out second best in his dealings with the Braves somehow, go figure. But still funny stuff.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Red Sox

Senator_John_Blutarsky
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Reply to  Pineapple12

Isaiah Jackson is the return piece to Boston

Jeff Joiner
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1 day ago

The Sun Devil. Oh no, Rex will be bummed.

I actually liked Jackson too but Grissom is more developed.

RexFregosi
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1 day ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

yes I am bummed. he looked good at IE too.

MarineLayer
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1 day ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

More Minasian dumpster diving, this guy has no options so must be with club all year or risk losing.

WallyChuckChili
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1 day ago
Reply to  MarineLayer

So early Rule 5 pick

Senator_John_Blutarsky
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Perry is the “Fred G. Sanford” of MLB GMs.

MarineLayer
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1 day ago

Exactly. But we needed to give them a live body in return. Barely alive body?

YOUknowulovetheIE
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1 day ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

Perry was a good hire, but he’s been worthless here and I can’t wait for them to move on.

MarineLayer
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1 day ago

What was good about the hire?

YOUknowulovetheIE
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22 hours ago
Reply to  MarineLayer

At the time he was a good hire. Assistant gm to the ws winner isn’t a bad pick up.

FungoAle
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1 day ago

Good hire, have you reflected on his W-L record during his tenor?

ryanfea
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1 day ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

Gotta commend Perry continuing his strategy of buying low on guys that used to be decent prospects even though it never ever works.

Senator_John_Blutarsky
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Reply to  ryanfea

The Boston end of this trade is what can be considered a “career-limiting decision”

The Atlanta Braves acquired seven-time All-Star pitcher Chris Sale from the Boston Red Sox in a December 2023 trade, sending infielder Vaughn Grissom to Boston along with cash.

ryanfea
Super Member
1 day ago

Yeah that didn’t age well

clover_black
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1 day ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

Perry knows what he knows.

Braves farmhands and where to get the tastiest baklava in glendale.

Senator_John_Blutarsky
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Entirely different topic: the UCLA football fans around here are going to love Bob Chesney. He’s the genuine article; you’re very fortunate to have gotten him.

MarineLayer
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1 day ago

I know. Too bad the Angels didn’t do something like that.

GrandpaBaseball
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1 day ago

The team will not reinvest any monies saved by changing monies paid to Rendone. Why? Arte will pocket the money and will soon sell the team and lay off the extended contract off to the new owner(s).

Mikeal1st
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12 hours ago

Am I wrong for thinking I agree.

GrandpaBaseball
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1 day ago

In protecting the better player’s earning potential earnings and real earnings the MLBPA have shortchanged the younger players and the position players to the barrel bottom. with a salary floor of 125-150 million dollars, it keeps rosters with plenty of 750K to 4M players while older and unproductive players make the big bucks. It’s time for the billionaires to get their act together and stop with the nonsense that the fans will always be there and support their teams. Other than the Dodgers and Yankees there exists an ebb and flow of attendance. Have all the new rules changed attendance, no not really. So why not have a salary cap? Manfraud’s tinkering with Rawling’s Baseballs ever year to produce more homeruns has not changed things much either except for launch angles and that has led to a decrease in hits.

A hard cap of 300 million on salaries should work for all and put an end to defeerred monies to players of after 2 million dollars and 25 years, so at most it would equal 50 million and then put a cap of only 5 players so the total would be only 10 million per season at the most.

You guys have it right btw, teams screwing up need to be dealt with hard by losing draft picks, international pool money, signing bonus money. Maybe limiting those same teams to how many FA players they could sign.

Jeff Joiner
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1 day ago

There definitely needs to be a floor and a some sort of cap/tax that actually works. It is more inexcusable for the Pirates to roll out a $60 million payroll than it is for the Dodgers and Yankees to try to win.

GrandpaBaseball
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1 day ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

true story imho. One side of the coin just stinks a little more.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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I’m really interested in Schwarber. I am curious if he can Hack Wilson his way into the HOF as a DH. He will likely not even cross 2000 career hits. His WAR will always be low cause he doesn’t play the field. But he may crack 500 HR if he averages 30 per season for five years. Now that the NL has the DH and we’ve been forced to consider the position to be important in order to get Big Poopi into the HOF, as well as Martinez who deserved it, it will be interesting to see future DHs careers. Kyle is likely to end up with basically JD Martinez’s career OPS with 500+ home runs and about 30 WAR, with no D WAR earned will that get a guy in?

Angelz4ever
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1 day ago

Does anyone know where to score some Hopium?

It’s not for me, it’s…..for a friend.

DMAGZ13
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1 day ago

The only way to punish a team would be to remove draft picks. Go over the cap… no draft picks until the 6th round .

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  DMAGZ13

And severe international signing restrictions.

I’d love this. I’d also be OK with some kind of exception for signing your own players long term. Some sort of way a team signing a guy to a really long contract before free agency counts less against the cap restriction. I’d like to encourage more “life long” players on teams. It’s good for the sport in general.

Angelz4ever
Super Member
1 day ago

That is a very good idea Gitch!

If you develop the player it is more of a retainer.

Jeff Joiner
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1 day ago

Doesn’t the NBA have some sort of exception on extensions?

Although I’m pretty sure the NBA system has so many exceptions it isn’t really a system.

Pineapple12
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1 day ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

the new NBA CBA is too punitive towards teams who exceed the salary cap and pay the luxury tax.

Still significantly better than the MLB

Angelz4ever
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1 day ago
Reply to  DMAGZ13

The “Good news” for the Doyers is any eventual cap will have their 2085 expiring contracts grandfathered in and the “Bad news” for the league…..is the first part.

Angelz4ever
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1 day ago
Reply to  DMAGZ13

I had previously posted a good formula that MLB should follow.

1st year-The team loses 50% of International signing monies, be excepted for any QO benefits if another team signs.

2nd year-(Former penalties continue) The team loses all International signing monies. Team loses Second round draft pick

3rd year-(All former penalties continue) Team loses First and Second round draft picks

4th year-(All former penalties continue) Team loses First, Second and Third round draft picks

5th-Sheesh, where do you go from here? Lose First through Fourth draft picks? Inability to sign FAs?

Any chicanery, like the old avoid the second or third year, will not re-start the clock, example: Team is at two years in a row, makes a salary dump trade (Dodgers/Kemp?) and goes below for one season, then starts back up the following, it should be considered a consecutive offense if within two seasons.

I had a better laid out plan on my former post, but I don’t know j@ck cr@p anyways…..

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Pineapple12
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1 day ago

Edwin Diaz to the Dodgers 😂😂😂

Pineapple12
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1 day ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

3 years, $69 milly — AAV record for a reliever. MLB must institute a salary cap, enough of this bullshit

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Angelz4ever
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1 day ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

The penalties for going over the cap need to be substantial and painful.

Pineapple12
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1 day ago
Reply to  Angelz4ever

MLB needs a hard cap and a salary floor.

The competitive imbalance is at an all-time high and isn’t slowing down as long as Guggenheim, Rogers, etc. can punch around with their unlimited cash.

Last edited 1 day ago by Pineapple12
Senator_John_Blutarsky
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Reply to  Angelz4ever

“Substantial and painful?”

Sharing a bunk with Eric Kay?
Playing games with “skin eruptions” in the Angel locker room?
Giving Arte a weekend “mani-pedi” spa day?
Forced listening of motivational talks from Rendon?

Angelz4ever
Super Member
1 day ago

Oh yeah, Eric always had some encouragement for me….er…you know what I mean.

Angelz4ever
Super Member
1 day ago

“Consequences and repercussions!”

Senator_John_Blutarsky
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Reply to  Pineapple12

Best to sleep with one eye open, for the MLBPA will silence you for the “salary cap” blasphemy.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  Pineapple12

Record deal. Clearly not buying a world series. Don’t hate those scrappy Doyers, yell at your owner, they can do this too.

Pineapple12
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1 day ago

“LA Dodgers homegrown, straight out of the mud”

Pineapple12
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1 day ago

Schwarber staying in Philly. 5 years, $150 milly

grichmanpoorman
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1 day ago

Christian Moore moving to third base is as science fiction-y as anything I’ve read about the team over the last couple of years.

Last edited 1 day ago by grichmanpoorman
Biggiswrth
Trusted Member
1 day ago

Sounds like someone’s IIWPM article….

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Yeah. As far as I’ve ever heard he isn’t quick or strong armed enough for 3B. I mean, if you want to trot him out there in Feb and see if by some miracle he is actually suited to the spot there’s not harm in it. But it shouldn’t be “the plan”.

Angelz4ever
Super Member
1 day ago

I don’t think Moore is 3B material. You have to be quick with the glove, his glove leans towards liability. But…..you never know.

Pineapple12
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1 day ago

If Perry said it and meant it, the idea is more far fetched in plausibility than actual fiction. CMo is a 2nd baseman or corner outfielder.

Guzman and Paris are the only internal 3rd base options.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  Pineapple12

I don’t think Paris can play 3B either. He’s played a total of 17 games there…. all in foreign winter ball.

Jeff Joiner
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1 day ago

Many scouts projected Moore as a LF’er leading up to the draft and Turk’s has posted he thinks there’s a high likelihood that’s where he ends up.

If that’s the case, a middling bat in a corner outfield spot is not a great first round pick. But that’s a very realistic possibility at this time.

Pineapple12
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1 day ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

I thought CMo looked proficient in the field before his wrist injury.

The dude’s care factor and drive is A++. His desire to be great is an intangible I won’t bet against. Hopefully the new hitting coaches help fix his whiff rate

MarineLayer
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1 day ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

I have a care factor and drive. Wouldn’t spend a first rounder on me.

MarineLayer
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1 day ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

Better than a relief pitcher.

Jeff Joiner
Editor
Legend
1 day ago
Reply to  MarineLayer

We’ve taken relievers in rounds 2 the last two drafts.

Angelz4ever
Super Member
1 day ago

Taco Tuesday!!

Oh Hell yeah!!

Senator_John_Blutarsky
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Bollinger’s article is a non-story. He says nothing of substance.

The so-called “financial flexibility” provided by restructuring Rendon’s contract is misleading unless Arte expands the Minion’s budget. I’m still of the opinion that the budget is unlikely to change materially regardless of what happens with Rendon’s contract.

RexFregosi
Super Member
1 day ago

agree, and also even if the Skaggs trial goes favorably, the reality is Arte is seemingly content with a 4th place budget.

Angelz4ever
Super Member
1 day ago

10-4 good buddy!

BruinsAngelsKings
Trusted Member
1 day ago
Reply to  Charles Sutton

 I figure somebody made that latter part up to make it seem like there is a plan.

Lack of a plan is a plan, just not a good one. 🙃 

Last edited 1 day ago by BruinsAngelsKings
Angelz4ever
Super Member
1 day ago

The “financial flexibility” means that Arte will buy name brand K-Cups for the executive breakroom.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend

If we are getting what so many have wished for and Arte is losing money out his nose because of lower actual attendance and crap TV deals and law suites then we should expect any millions saved to evaporate into operations budgets. This should make people happy.

Angelz4ever
Super Member
1 day ago

Arte won’t be losing any money-That is why he doesn’t fully blow available monies on FAs. I honestly don’t believe any MLB team really loses money anyway.

Arte will always keep his profit margins. Business wise that is very good, fanboy wise, that sucks.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  Angelz4ever

See, here’s the thing. Baseball teams do lose money. The idea that they don’t is the same thinking as people who think Jeff Bezos actually HAS 250 Billion dollars. No. He owns 250 billion dollars worth of Amazon. If he wants to access those billions all he has to do is sell all his stock, crash the economy and get investigated by the government. By the same logic Ford or Boeing is a fantastic stock to own. After all, they own billions of dollars of stuff.

The reality is that most of a team’s value is tied up in being a team. You can borrow against that, so there’s that money. The other money is all at the tip top of things and is operating costs vs income. When the income drops below the operating costs then the team is “losing money”. Equity isn’t money, it is potential money. But you have to sell assets to get it. Like the Poldads.

Arte has certainly lost a fair amount of income as the TV deal, attendance, sponsorships etc have dropped and he still pays useless players 80M a year. It’s what we have always wished for. It’s great.

MarineLayer
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1 day ago

He may have lost money by not selling at the peak of the team’s value due to Ohtani, Skaggs, crooked stadium deal etc. I’m not crying for him. I lost money on United Healthcare stock.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  MarineLayer

If you are ever feeling sad, just tally up what Arte has spent on Stephens, Hamilton, Pujols, Rendon, Wells, Trout, Upton, Mathews etc etc and what he got out of them if one WAR is worth 8M dollars.

You’ll feel better about life.

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