LA Angels Tuesday News Crash: GG

I don’t see any Angels in this list of Gold Glove winners. Here is the 2025 ballot of eight Hall of Fame nominees by the contemporary era committee.

Lucas Giolito declined his end of a $19 Million mutual option. Will the Red Sox extend him a Qualifying Offer? Pete Alonso opted out of his $24 Million deal with the Mets. Ha-Seong Kim opted out of his deal with the Braves. Lourdes Gurriel Jr. triggered his player option. The Orioles declined their club option on infielder/outfielder Jorge Mateo. Cody Bellinger opted out of his deal with the Yankees. Edwin Diaz opted out of his deal with the Mets while A.J. Minter opted in to the Mets. Right-hander Brandon Woodruff declined his part of a mutual option with the Brewers.

The Marlins just promoted Gabe Kapler to General Manager. The Braves hired Walt Weiss as their field manager.

Photo credit: Rex Fregosi

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AnAngelsFan
Super Member
14 minutes ago

Gioloto, coming off a mediocre year, over the age of 30, with an injury history and who ended the season with an elbow injury, thinks he is worth more than $19 million?

Or maybe he’s hoping to get a long-term contract at a lower AAV because his elbow is shot and he wants to be paid for more than one year of not playing.

I hope Boston does give him a QO.

cookmeister
Trusted Member
50 minutes ago

I’m going to be a Debby downer on Kim.

He’s a below average hitter with an extensive injury history.
His value is tied almost directly to his defense, more specifically his defense at SS, where he would not play with this team.
That’s a hard pass for me.

Reelbigfishalos
Newbie
59 minutes ago

Some nice buy low potential bounceback candidates in here in Kim and Woodruff. Woodruff after bringing in Maddux could make some sense in particular.

Reelbigfishalos
Newbie
58 minutes ago

Imanaga just became FA too and could fit that bill, coming off injury-filled season.

cookmeister
Trusted Member
52 minutes ago

How is Maddux going to help with injuries?

Eric_in_Portland
Legend
42 minutes ago

It gets depressing to know our pool is bounce back candidates, DFAs, and guys who were good once

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend
27 minutes ago

The problem is, THESE are exactly the millions that I would NOT spend if I was a penny pinching owner. The return I’d get on spending the amount of cash I’d pay Woodruff to maybe being good, spent across developing pitching in the system, will net me a lot more. While Woodruff himself, even if he works out, makes my teammmm…. yep, we are still in 4th place.

At the very least, just don’t sign any of this filler and pay Neto early. Then I have my “marketable face” locked up.

CAoldskoll
Trusted Member
3 hours ago

Interesting names out there became available, should be the talk around MLB media but it’s all about how Dodgers are ruining baseball with their spending or (If article is from LA) how they are not. I hate LA but want to make something clear; they are NOT ruining baseball, what they are doing is destroying any type of competitive balance in the league. I’m not speaking for those bottom teams (Pirates, Rockies, Reds) that don’t want to spend at all, but for the majority that do want to win and spend, yet don’t make the revenue larger markets have. And there is also the Dodgers ‘exclusive’ signing advantage for Japanese players, every other team gets sloppy seconds. Dodger nation and news outlets are trying so hard for any excuse to avoid a lockout due to salary cap. Add more stars, win 3x, good luck with that. Salary cap and some type of internationalj draft for ‘pro’ players outside US will be topics.

dontbatvlad4th
Member
2 hours ago
Reply to  CAoldskoll

Yup. I do also hope they tackle the deferral fiasco that Shohei and the Dodgers absolutely defiled.

steelgolf
Legend
2 hours ago
Reply to  dontbatvlad4th

Oh, that deferral loophole will definitely tighten, if not close altogether.

AnAngelsFan
Super Member
9 minutes ago
Reply to  steelgolf

Will it? The players like it because they get paid and get a chance to be on a loaded team that win will the WS. The large market teams like it because it lets them load the team.

The cheap owners hate it, but they are fighting against both the other owners and the players, so I’m not sure they’ll win.

milehigh
Trusted Member
2 minutes ago
Reply to  AnAngelsFan

I agree. Players and owners don’t see deferred contracts as loopholes. Not sure who is going to close this alleged loophole.

Biggiswrth
Trusted Member
3 hours ago

I might be a homer on this one but I would say yes to all of the contemporary era nominees! Still missing Bobby Grich though!

Marcotor
Trusted Member
3 hours ago
Reply to  Biggiswrth

Everybody is a WINNER in the new and improved Hall of Mostly Very Good.

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
2 hours ago
Reply to  Biggiswrth

Jeff Kent. 55 WAR 123 OPS+ no gold gloves 5 x All Star
Bobby Grich 71 WAR 125 OPS+ 4 gold gloves 6 x All Star

steelgolf
Legend
2 hours ago
Reply to  Roy Hobbs

Jeff Kent is not a hall of fame player.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend
32 minutes ago
Reply to  steelgolf

It just bugs me that they decide they need to look at Kent when two other guys who were much better get no love.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend
33 minutes ago
Reply to  Biggiswrth

See, I flop the opposite way. It’s not the Hall of Good Feelz or I Liked That Guy. It’s supposed to be the best or most important players from an era. I like all the guys on this list. But the clear HOFers are Bonds, Clemens, Sheffield (maybe).

Fernando is an also ran mid-rotation guy who gets zero attention if he’s white, black, or played for the Indians. You can’t even “Koufax” him in cause he really only had two really good seasons. Chuck Finley had a better career. Murphy, Delgado and Mattingly are Hall of Very Good. Dwight Evans career was generally a full 20WAR better than these guys.

But the CONSTANT pain in the ass is that Bobby Grich and Lou Whitaker are still not getting ANY traction with these guys. Both have about 20 more WAR than Kent and aren’t suspected of steroid use. Both are ahead of Ryne Sandberg, Roberto Alomar, JAckie Robinson and Craig Biggio and just behind Rod Carew. You just look at that pool of names they are swimming in… they are HOF 2nd basemen.

But no. Jeff Kent. Reeeeehh mehhhhmm burrrrr? Home runs? Mustache?

I also want to stop with the whinny bitch shit with some of the roid guys. Clearly steroids are still in use. Clearly they were rampantly used in the late 90s and early 2000s. Clearly everyone knows that. It’s stupid for Bonds and Clemens to not be in. At this point it’s more about a bunch of old men pearl clutching/punishing someone and less about preserving something or consequences if those guys and guys like Palmiero and McGwire get in. I mean shit. Palmeiro has 3000 hits. Rengifo looks like he’s on roids. Is he gonna get 3000 hits?

I can see some cases being made to keep some guys out. I’m not sure McGwire has the stats without the juice. Sammy Sosa? Probably not. Sheffield? He’s border line. So is Manny Ramirez. The point about the steroids era can still be made via omissions. On the other hand, Ivan Rodriguez and Big Poopy are already in the Hall…. sooooo?

Oh. And here’s my final dark horse guy who should be considered. He’s got 2400 career hits. 622 stolen bases. Four gold gloves in CF. Was a six time all-star. Made the play offs in I think 11 out of 15 seasons he played. And his 68.4 WAR is better than any of the guys on this list. Plus no roids. But he’s never gonna make the Hall of Feelz.

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