LA Angels Thursday News Crash: GG Finalists

Welcome to Thursday Links. Luis Rengifo is a Gold Glove finalist for second base. I suspect the postseason buzz will give it to the Blue Jays second baseman, but we’ll see. The Angels just lost Chad Wallach to minor league free agency.

Managers and Coaches

Yankees third base coach Luis Rojas gets an interview for the Orioles manager position. Two other Yankees coaches, Mike Harkey and Travis Chapman, got canned.

The Twins will interview both James Rowson and Derek Shelton in their managerial search. They also will interview Ramon Vasquez and Nick Punto.

Player Transactions

Munetaka Murakami will be posted this offseason. He’s a third baseman. Joe Jacques got a minor league deal with the Mets. Alex Bregman will be opting out. He’s a third baseman with positive WAR who should have a voracious appetite for money. The Twins claimed utility man Ryan Kriedler off waivers from the Pirates.

Player Injuries

Anthony Volpe got shoulder surgery for his partially torn labrum. The Yankees say he wil be ready for next season “if everything goes normally.” They will probably also develop a back up plan in case he Cozarts.

Photo credit: Rex Fregosi

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Terry
Trusted Member
1 hour ago

So Mead was having amnesia on the witness stand? “I don’t recall”, which usually translates to: “If I tell you what really happened, I’m screwed”.

Angels2020Champs
Legend
5 hours ago

Can anyone copy and paste Sam blum’s synopsis on Skaggs court proceedings?

RexFregosi
Super Member
3 hours ago

Longtime Angels employee takes stand as key witness in Tyler Skaggs wrongful death trialWitness testimony in the Tyler Skaggs wrongful death trial started Wednesday. John McCoy / Getty Images
By sammy
Oct. 15, 2025Updated 8:18 pm MST

SANTA ANA, Calif. — Witness testimony began Wednesday in the wrongful death civil trial brought by the family of deceased pitcher Tyler Skaggs against the Los Angeles Angels.
The Skaggs family has argued the Angels knew or should have known that former communications director Eric Kay was abusing drugs — and distributing them.

Tim Mead, an Angels employee of 40 years who led the team’s communications department, was front and center Wednesday. The first and arguably most important witness in the case, he spent the day being questioned by Skaggs family attorney Rustin Hardin.
Mead answered that he did “not recall” for many of the most consequential questions Hardin asked him.
Defense lawyers have yet to question Mead, who will return to the witness box when court resumes Friday.
Mead, the Angels’ former vice president of communications, was also former Angels communications director Eric Kay’s friend and boss of more than two decades. Kay is serving 22 years in federal prison for providing the fentanyl-laced pill that led to Skaggs’ death July 1, 2019.
His importance as a witness relates to his alleged knowledge of Kay’s drug abuse and his decision not to report it to team management or human resources. Mead was initially named as a defendant in this lawsuit when it was first filed in June 2021 but was later dropped from the suit.
The basis for this lawsuit is the Skaggs family’s contention that the Angels were aware Kay was abusing drugs, and that they knew he was distributing pills. They allege that Mead, as well as Angels traveling secretary Tom Taylor, knew of and enabled Kay’s behavior. Mead and Taylor have denied that.
Mead stated repeatedly Wednesday that he believed Kay’s drug issues stemmed from mismanagement of prescription medication and not from abusing illegal opioids. He also stated he believed he’d assisted Kay through his issues by enlisting the treatment of Angels team psychologist Erik Abell.
On multiple occasions, Hardin, who spent the entire day questioning Mead, cited text messages, emails and deposition testimony as evidence. Hardin questioned why Mead had deleted potential documentation that could have been handed over as evidence, such as text messages and emails. Mead said it was because of concerns with storage space on his devices over the years.

Hardin specifically cited two instances from deposition testimony and text messages provided by Kay’s wife, Camela Kay. In 2013, Kay had to be taken to the team hotel during an Angels road game at Yankee Stadium. Mead testified that they commandeered the team bus, and he took Kay back to Camela, who was already at the hotel.
According to Skaggs family lawyers, Camela testified that Eric told Mead that night that he’d developed a Vicodin addiction and was using five pills a day.
“I have no recollection of that, sir,” Mead said on the stand Wednesday.
During a separate instance from Oct. 2, 2017, Mead said he and Taylor went to the Kay household, a day after an unsuccessful intervention for Eric. Camela testified that while Mead and Taylor were in the home, they searched for and found around 60 pills, split into about 10 small baggies.
“I do not recall that occurrence,” Mead said, while acknowledging he couldn’t say for sure that it did not happen. “I recall very little of that morning.”
Notably, in a text message from Mead to Camela on or around Oct. 2, he wrote, “I asked him to give me drugs he had in his possession. Said he needed some to get through until (tomorrow morning).” The exact time the message was sent is unclear.
Mead acknowledged it was “logical” to connect that message to his finding pills at Kay’s home earlier that day, but maintained he did not recall whether it happened.
Hardin also pressed Mead on other instances of Kay’s alleged erratic behavior at work.

Mead became aware of an inappropriate romantic relationship that Kay allegedly had with an Angels intern in her early 20s. Mead also acknowledged a separate instance when a different Angels intern filed a written complaint to Mead about Kay, saying he spoke angrily to her. Mead said he served as a mediator in those situations and opted not to report them to HR.

On different occasions, Mead said, he heard Kay kicking the desk in his office and yelling loudly. Mead said he was also aware of “horseplay” by Kay with the players, in which he’d conduct dangerous and disgusting dares — such as taking a 90 mile per hour fastball to the leg — in exchange for cash.Mead said that “95 percent” of the time, Kay was a good employee and person to be around. The other 5 percent, he said, was Kay having an “off day.”
Text messages provided by Camela Kay show Mead regularly checked in with her about Eric’s issues, offering support and assistance where he could.
Mead so frequently cited his belief that Kay was using prescription pills, not illegally obtained pills, that Hardin asked about Mead’s “fixation” on that clarification. Mead later acknowledged he was concerned enough about Kay’s potential addiction that he and an assistant periodically searched Kay’s office desk and drawers for potential illegal drugs or drug paraphernalia.
Throughout the testimony, Hardin circled back to the Angels’ employee handbook, which prohibits being high at work regardless of whether the drugs involved are prescribed.
As the day wrapped, Hardin asked a pointed question that aimed to summarize Mead’s perspective on how he handled Kay’s drug issues.
“People trying to do the right thing sometimes instead of following the rules can make huge mistakes?” Hardin asked, referring to Mead’s actions.
“In hindsight, yes,” Mead said.
Trying to tie it directly and leave no ambiguity, Hardin followed up.
“Do you think that’s what happened here?”
And in the final testimony of the day, Mead would not concede.
“No, sir,” he said. “I don’t.”

YOUknowulovetheIE
Super Member
3 hours ago
Reply to  RexFregosi

I think trout and rengifo are the only 2 players left from the skaggs days, but this case will linger over this franchise, making them losers until it’s over. End it quick, pay off the family, and get it over with.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend
Reply to  RexFregosi

“Let me describe how someone trying to do the right thing looks when they are doing absolutely the wrong thing using all the things I did as an example.”

“OK. So do you feel you are an example of having good intentions but doing the wrong thing?”

“Nope.”

I still don’t give a shit. All this crap basically has to exist in a bubble where I have to play like I haven’t known dozens of junkies in my life and I’m completely unaware of how impossible it is to cut them off or cut them out. Not to mention how hard it is to just fire them in California. Oh, and also completely ignore that Skaggs, with his resources, would 120% found other ways to get pills and probably already had.

It all plays off the national bummer of drug addiction and needing to find someone to blame. Skaggs. He a gooh boy. Could have been an astronaut/pitcher if only other people had done something. The bullshit attack leads to more bullshit to defend against it and everyone’s functioning in some weird ass alternate reality.

Meanwhile every junkie I have ever known has been incredible at two things. Finding ways to get drugs and finding reasons you can’t cut them out of your life. And just try to fire a pill head because you suspect he’s on drugs, or you found pills, etc. Tons of fun.

If we want employers to be responsible this way then we need to make it easy for them to act “responsibly” and accept that that’s gonna be messy. I seriously doubt Mrs Kay and Mrs Skaggs wanted that.

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
2 hours ago

Unfortunately, Tim Mead does not sound very credible. Pretty specific stuff he can’t remember, like you looked for and found pills or you didn’t, and you clearly did nothing about it. You don’t have to fire the person, but you have to elevate and report which get’s you off the hook.

cookmeister
Trusted Member
2 hours ago

wonder why they aren’t suing the people that first got him addicted

PedroCerrano
Super Member
2 hours ago

As a friend who counselled many addicts once recounted to me: “you’re a drug addict and therefore a liar”. Start over, this time try telling the truth.

toad2065
Trusted Member
3 hours ago
Reply to  RexFregosi

The “good old boy” disease is rampart in so many organizations and the end result is always some variation of “we had no idea”. Short of selling the team, Arte should have brought in an outsider with a mandate to professionalize the organization. Instead, here we are with this sad and depressing tale in which there are no innocent parties.

milehigh
Trusted Member
3 hours ago
Reply to  toad2065

Not sure why Arte would hire someone to professionalize his organization if he didn’t know that was needed.

What the synopsis says to me is that Mead didn’t want anyone else to know what was happening and hoped the Kay problem just went away by itself. And the end says to me that Mead has no remorse or sympathy regarding Kay’s drug problem (along with apparently not caring that prescription drugs are a problem and Kay needed professional help instead of a blind eye) nor Skagg’s death.

The other side will have time with Mead and it will be interesting how the questions are framed. Imho, if Mead starts remembering dates and where he was and what transpired here and there, that to me would be a problem for him. He will have to keep remembering not to remember.

MarineLayer
Legend
2 hours ago
Reply to  RexFregosi

The Angels have a culture problem regardless of the verdict.

Jeff Joiner
Editor
Legend
5 hours ago

Pujols is interviewing for the Baltimore manager job.

Interesting development.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

In response we will NOT look at the dozen or so qualified guys out there looking to manage. What we WILL do is:

Threaten to hire Torii Hunter
Pay Albert a ton of money to stick with us
Sign Devon Williams to a massive closer contract cause Yankees
Call everyone in the rolodex and try to sell this as a reason to buy a ticket package

Gonna be a GREAT 2026. Thank gah we didn’t trade anyone the last couple deadlines. We wouldn’t be positioned to compete the way we are AND CtPG Guy would have been left wondering who he’s gonna watch. If Arte pulls this off we will be the team with everything and all the memberberries.

Eric_in_Portland
Legend
2 hours ago

There is no CtPG guy. You’re welcome

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
2 hours ago

Not interviewing realistic qualified candidates and threatening to hire Hunter sounds about right for this organization.

WallyChuckChili
Legend
2 hours ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

Pujols just using Baltimore to squeeze more money out of Arte!

Jim Atkins
Super Member
6 hours ago

Saw something that the Skankees had been running Volpe out there all season knowing his shoulder was jacked up. They really didn’t do themselves any favors, not to mention absolutely wasting a year for Volpe as a player.

Count me in on the hitting head on desk trying to figure out why Rengifo got a GG nod brigade.

HalosFanForLife
Super Member
6 hours ago

Gimenez is playing second base defensively better than anyone has ever played it. Sorry Morgan. Sorry Robby. Sorry Ryne. It’s not close. His routine is beyond huge. If he can hit enough to stay in the league, he will go down, hands down, as the best defensively.

steelgolf
Legend
9 hours ago

I read the names of the finalists for the 2nd base Gold Gloves, and all I could think about is “One of these names doesn’t belong here” test/quiz.

DowningDude
Legend
8 hours ago
Reply to  steelgolf

I came here to see your reaction to this shocking development. 🤣

steelgolf
Legend
7 hours ago
Reply to  DowningDude

😂😂😂😂👍

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Legend
Reply to  steelgolf

Given the nominees, the GG Award has entered the realm of “meaningless forms of alleged recognition”

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend

Like winning a Noble Peace Prize for shit we’re sure you’ll do in the future.

toad2065
Trusted Member
3 hours ago

But Science/Statistics! Both are debasing the beautiful game of baseball!

Kevin
Trusted Member
7 hours ago
Reply to  steelgolf

Yes. How bad have the standards become for Rengifo to be a GG finalist? He’s barely been a passable fielder most years. He may have improved and become adequate. No way he is exceptional to be a true finalist for a GG.

steelgolf
Legend
7 hours ago
Reply to  Kevin

Bobby Grich probably saw Rengigo’s name and said “WTF? I should be in the Hall of Fame and these guys are nominating Rengifo for a Gold Glove?”

Jim Atkins
Super Member
6 hours ago
Reply to  steelgolf

Oh hell yes.

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
6 hours ago
Reply to  steelgolf

Both Grich and Whitaker should be in the hall. They are almost identical to Paul Molitor and Roberto Alomar. For comparison:
OPS+. WAR AllStar. Gold Gloves
Bobby Grich 125 71 6 4
Lou Whitaker. 117 75 5 3
Paul Molitor. 122 76 7 0
Roberto Alomar. 116 67 12 10

Some of the GG numbers depend on who was playing at the time. Grich was the best hitter, Molitor had the highest WAR, Alomar had more GGs and more Allstar appearances. Molitor and Alomar are in the Hall. Grich and Whitaker are not, and they are not borderline. According to JAWS, which is a player’s career WAR averaged with their 7-year peak WAR, Grich is 8th all-time and Whitaker is 13th. Frisch 9, Robinson 10, and Sandberg 11 are in the Hall, as are Alomar 14, Biggio 15, Joe Gordon 17, and Billy Herman 18. The players who are not in currently are Robinson Cano at 7, Grich at 8, Utley at 12, Whitaker at 13, and Randolph at 16.

PedroCerrano
Super Member
5 hours ago
Reply to  Roy Hobbs

In the 80s Bill James used to point to how many small things Grich did at an exceptionally high level. He would be more appreciated if he were playing now.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend
Reply to  Roy Hobbs

Yup. 2B is the weak sister of positions in the HOF and Lou/Grich have been almost willfully ignored for a long time.

cookmeister
Trusted Member
2 hours ago
Reply to  Kevin

he’s a pretty good 2nd baseman.

you don’t have to like him, but the stats play out in that favor in the AL. Only one that maybe could have replaced him was Jazz.

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
1 hour ago
Reply to  cookmeister

If that is true, then we should be giving him a 3 year deal with the likelihood he returns to form as a hitter. And even so, the better solution would have been to move him at the deadline. The deadline like the draft is long gone but trading all of our exciting contracts would not have excluded us from re-signing any of them if we wanted to and would have given us some potential plays for the future. And after watching the post season so for, there are teams that could have used them. Even Ward, if we are going to trade him this winter, we should have traded him at the deadline. By noon doing this, we likely set ourselves back a couple of years. 2026 could be really ugly and lots of our current players will need to be replaced over the next two years.

WallyChuckChili
Legend
1 hour ago
Reply to  Roy Hobbs

If he was on another team, we would want him

HalosFanForLife
Super Member
7 hours ago
Reply to  steelgolf

Eric Hosmer won 3 Gold Gloves. Rengifo being nominated might be worse than a Hosmer win.

steelgolf
Legend
7 hours ago

This is true

HalosFanForLife
Super Member
6 hours ago
Reply to  steelgolf

I said might.

Jeff Joiner
Editor
Legend
5 hours ago

Jeter WON multiple gold gloves without making a single play to his left.

steelgolf
Legend
3 hours ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

Yeah, but Jeter was the Derek Zoolander of shortstops, and on the Yankees.

HalosFanForLife
Super Member
7 hours ago
Reply to  steelgolf

Yes. When I think GG second baseman – I think Gimenez and Rengifo. This should be a barn burner.

HalosFanForLife
Super Member
7 hours ago
Reply to  steelgolf

Gold is indeed found in stones.

Last edited 7 hours ago by HalosFanForLife
steelgolf
Legend
6 hours ago

🤣🤣👍🤣🤣🤣🤣👍👍 Now, if there were a 10 cent head award, it goes to Rengifo without question.

RexFregosi
Super Member
5 hours ago
Reply to  steelgolf

it’s all Wash, guys.

I’m telling’ ya, if he’d have come back, even Soler would be nominated next year. 😉

PedroCerrano
Super Member
5 hours ago
Reply to  steelgolf

I wanted to mock this, but he was better this year if you eliminate his time at 3B and in the outfield. I am however, never surprised when he does something incredibly bad at the worst possible instant.

Last edited 5 hours ago by PedroCerrano
gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend
Reply to  PedroCerrano

I have a co-worker like this now. Likely screws up less often than anyone including me. Trouble is, when he bifs it, it’s REALLY at a bad time and causes issues that pull other people into fixing them. So he looks like a gump even though he’s really jugging along doing fairly well.

steelgolf
Legend
3 hours ago
Reply to  PedroCerrano

That is the Rengifo magic. Rengifo will giveth, by driving in a run in, and then within 2 innings, just forget he is playing baseball in the field, and allow the opposing team to get 2+ runs. That is when Rengifo taketh away.

PedroCerrano
Super Member
1 hour ago
Reply to  steelgolf

I have come up with many creative names for his brain lapses that I shouldn’t repeat here.

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