LA Angels Tuesday News Crash: All-MLB

Five Angels made the list of nominees for All-MLB Team. Two of them are outfielders. How did that happen? I heard our outfielders sucked. Maybe there is a reason Perry didn’t trade those guys. LaMonte Wade Jr. and Andrew Chafin were the Angels “key additions” according to Fangraphs. They generated -0.1 WAR.

Lucas Giolito will miss the wild card with an elbow injury. Jake Burger gets wrist surgery. Liam Hendricks gets ulnar nerve transposition surgery.

Management Gets The Axe

The Twins fired Rocco Baldelli.

The Giants fired Bob Melvin.

Bruce Bochy.

The White Sox are pretty much firing everybody. Anaheim is one of the places being said to have “managerial uncertainty.”

Management Gets To Stick Around

Somehow Carlos Mendoza gets to stick with the Mets.

Pirates manager Don Kelly gets an extension. Ben Cherington gets to remain with the Pirates as General Manager.

Photo credit: Rex Fregosi

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Roy Hobbs
Super Member
2 days ago

Here’s my question. Think about baseball and basketball and how many former good to great players became successful managers and coaches and how many were failures. locally, neither Jerry West or Magic Johnson could do it. Joe Torre was a very good player who had success in baseball. Ted Williams and Frank Robinson couldn’t do it. Dusty baker was another good player who was successful. there are others but the list is short. Larry Bird and didn’t Jordan try as well. Elite players very rarely make good coaches and managers because they were so gifted very few really thought about what they were doing. There are exceptions like Tony Gwynn. It would be very high risk to hire Albert or Tori without any experience.

Angels2020Champs
Legend
2 days ago

This might be the final nail in the coffin for me. Fuck PooHoles and Fuck Arte!

steelgolf
Legend
2 days ago

There is no verification. Only that he is a speculative possibility. Not saying that it wouldn’t be just the sort of stunt that Arte would do, just that for now, this seems to be “Ohtani to the Bluejays and he is on a plane headed to Toronto right now”

Angels2020Champs
Legend
2 days ago
Reply to  steelgolf

I sure hope so and thank you for the reality check!

bobblanton
Trusted Member
2 days ago

WOW

bobblanton
Trusted Member
2 days ago

Albert Pujols is the new Angels manager

steelgolf
Legend
2 days ago
Reply to  bobblanton

Source?

Fansince1971
Legend
2 days ago
Reply to  bobblanton

This would be the dumbest thing ever. Is there a source?

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Legend

Washington would be 74 next season. The only job he should be seeking is the Presidency – where age doesn’t matter.

I kid…I kid.

The only thing that bothers me about Washington not being retained is that Perry was front and center on the announcement. Perry should have been let go first, with the new GM / POBO / insert title here determining that cleaning house was the first step to getting a new regime in place.

2002heaven
Super Member
2 days ago

Jayce Tingler!!!!

bobblanton
Trusted Member
2 days ago
Reply to  2002heaven

Jeff Joiner

Marcotor
Trusted Member
2 days ago

Angels PR apparently think Wash died.

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Fansince1971
Legend
2 days ago
Reply to  Marcotor

Some intern definitely made that one

grichmanpoorman
Trusted Member
2 days ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

I mean… they ARE the Angels. The heavenly imagery tracks.

YOUknowulovetheIE
Super Member
2 days ago
Reply to  Marcotor

Rip. Gone too soon

HaloHopeful
Newbie
2 days ago

The spin from the baseball media seems to be starting to solidify around the position that not picking up Washington’s option is that the Angels were somehow turning a corner under him. They were 2 games under .500, but their run differential suggested they were worse than that and so did their poor defense (supposedly a Washington strength). Washington is a good coach but not a good manager.

Brent
Super Member
2 days ago

Word has it Ron Washington gave himself a mohawk prior to being canned today.

steelgolf
Legend
2 days ago
Reply to  Brent

🤣🤣🤣

YOUknowulovetheIE
Super Member
2 days ago
Reply to  Brent

Well, he did hire the worst hitting coach I’ve ever seen.

Fansince1971
Legend
2 days ago

Teams typically do not lose 189 games over two seasons and keep the manager(s). I think that is all we are seeing here.

JackFrost
Legend
2 days ago

Thank God they are not keeping Monty… only thing worse is Nevin. Now, PLEASE do not hire Pujols.

Last edited 2 days ago by JackFrost
MarineLayer
Legend
2 days ago
Reply to  JackFrost

I agree on Pujols.

2002heaven
Super Member
2 days ago
Reply to  JackFrost

Wash was terrible

YOUknowulovetheIE
Super Member
2 days ago
Reply to  JackFrost

Yes, please no pooholes. That guy didn’t do anything for this organization, he isn’t a true angel, he just got paid as one.

Last edited 2 days ago by YOUknowulovetheIE
2pints
Trusted Member
2 days ago
Reply to  JackFrost

I can totally see Arte hiring Pujols since he’s already paying him.

steelgolf
Legend
2 days ago
Reply to  2pints

Yep, already paying him 1 million per year, in Arte’s mind he may as well have Albert earn that check.

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
2 days ago
Reply to  steelgolf

I don’t think even Arte is that dumb, but if it happened it would end up being and embarrassment for both Albert and the organization. Plus I just don’t see Albert being an organizational guy. He would speak his mind. it could be very entertaining.

steelgolf
Legend
2 days ago
Reply to  Roy Hobbs

Unfortunately:
A: Never throw up a challenge to Arte regarding baseball dumbness. He mandated a trade for Vernone Wells and the signing of Josh Hamilton when they needed pitching, not an outfielder.
B: The Angels are already an embarrassment, having missed the playoffs for 10 years straight, having lost 99 games last year, set a new record in team strike outs this year, the whole Skaggs fiasco, Hamilton fiasco, Rendone fiasco, stadium deal fiasco, etc., etc. I frankly don’t think he can get embarrassed.
C: Albert’s postgame interviews could possibly be entertaining, though I wouldn’t want him as a manager.

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
2 days ago
Reply to  steelgolf

All true

Angels2020Champs
Legend
2 days ago
Reply to  JackFrost

The NOT should’ve been all caps!!

JackFrost
Legend
2 days ago

I thought about that. I think both work, but all caps for the whole sentence would be best.

JakeTaylor
Trusted Member
2 days ago

New coaching staff is good news but new owner and GM would be even better news.

FungoAle
Legend
2 days ago
Reply to  JakeTaylor

Yes, very hard for a good manager to overcome the doings from a bad GM.

Could be that Arte just retains Perry just to give Albert a chance. Arte saves some coin on both positions. The nightmare scenario.

Senator_John_Blutarsky
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Reply to  FungoAle

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Roy Hobbs
Super Member
3 days ago

Looks like all new coaching staff and possibly GM

Kevin
Trusted Member
2 days ago
Reply to  Roy Hobbs

Perry chose to fire Maddon years ago. The team was better with Maddon than Perry. Perry’s time is sadly just about up.

YOUknowulovetheIE
Super Member
2 days ago
Reply to  Kevin

I hope perry goes and pounds sand too. He’s a lazy gm

Jeff Joiner
Editor
Legend
3 days ago

New manager but same executives = not much will changes.

FungoAle
Legend
3 days ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

Silent on the GM, but the manager not being rehired is the chronological step

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

It’s not earth shattering but it at least gives us something to watch. Maybe we get some good juju and wonderful things happen…. until sad donkey comes along and kills it with his analassists.

milehigh
Trusted Member
3 days ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

If there can be an AI actress then we can have an AI manager. I’m sure we can make one that is young and energetic.

I can’t see any downsides to this. On field strategy should be A+. /s

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend
Reply to  milehigh

You mean Dave “I Felt Threatened” Roberts

milehigh
Trusted Member
2 days ago

I’m sure we can create an AI version of Dread Pirate Roberts. We’ll change the name of Autry Way to Silk Road. After game interviews should be a blast.

MarineLayer
Legend
3 days ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

It needed to be done. The more other heads that continue to roll, the better. Tori or Schu would be my choices, but I think Texas gets Schu.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend
Reply to  MarineLayer

WTF is schu? Skip Schumaker?

Eric_in_Portland
Legend
2 days ago

Shooey! Matt Shoemaker!

MarineLayer
Legend
2 days ago

Yes, the first four letters of Schumaker like Wash is the first four letters of Washington.

FungoAle
Legend
2 days ago
Reply to  MarineLayer

like PuJo as in Pujols

Angels2020Champs
Legend
2 days ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

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bobblanton
Trusted Member
3 days ago

Just came out sources say new manager for angels next year

MarineLayer
Legend
3 days ago
Reply to  bobblanton

It feels like Minassian sacrifice those two in a pathetic attempt to hang onto his job.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend
Reply to  MarineLayer

Yeah totally. Sure, you complain about PTP being a puppet endlessly, but all the sudden he switched on his Rasputin vibes and made Arte get rid of Ray Ray and Wash to save his job. What a weasel. I heard from Alana whose sister has home room with him that he wears the same socks two days in a row too. Probably a psycho killer….

bobblanton
Trusted Member
2 days ago

Doesn’t change his underwear either. Just turns them inside out

MarineLayer
Legend
2 days ago

Do you want Minasian to continue or is five years of failure enough?

milehigh
Trusted Member
2 days ago
Reply to  MarineLayer

Let’s get a new GM. Then let’s have the same conversation next year.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend
Reply to  MarineLayer

I dunno. Maybe read the words. I’m not saying PTP should continue. I’m saying your comment about his firing Wash is stupid.

2002heaven
Super Member
3 days ago

Cubs Mariners WS

FungoAle
Legend
3 days ago

If Bochy manages again, it will be in San Francisco. Rumors of Melvin being fired and Bochy returning were around the Bay Area since August.

2002heaven
Super Member
3 days ago
Reply to  FungoAle

Managers don’t matter like head coaches do in football and college basketball. Pete Carroll will help the Raiders.

WallyChuckChili
Legend
3 days ago

Angels to get New Manager next year.

Wash or Monty will not be returning next year.

FungoAle
Legend
3 days ago

Step 1 – complete

WallyChuckChili
Legend
3 days ago
Reply to  FungoAle

I hope we can keep Wash as infield coach.

steelgolf
Legend
3 days ago

He would be fine as an infield coach . I just never wanted him as a manager, and Monty is just Nevin without the redass attitude.

FungoAle
Legend
3 days ago

I personally like Ron Washington. He’s a good baseball guy. Little bit concerned of the health moving forward and having to take a LOA for extended time and forcing in someone not ready to take control (aka Montgomery).

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend

LET’s GO REDS!

The whole town’s batty, about Cincinnati,
What a team, what a team, what a team,
Each man and lady—from one to eighty, 
How they scream, how they scream, how they scream!

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FungoAle
Legend
3 days ago

I’m hoping they channel the BIG RED MACHINE and shut the Dodges down

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend
Reply to  FungoAle

Blue. Rymes with POO. I am twelve. Nuff said.

red floyd
Legend
3 days ago

For those who are wondering:

  • Neto
  • Trout
  • Adell
  • Ward
  • Jansen
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