2025 MLB Draft Thread

After all the waiting and predictions, the draft is here. Rounds 1-3 will take place tonight with the remaining 17 rounds going down tomorrow.

Here is the draft order for you to follow. The Angels pick four times – at 2, 47, 79 and 105 – tonight. Tomorrow will be picks 109, 140, 169 and the second pick in every subsequent round.

The Angels bonus pool is $16,656,400. Those funds are to cover the signing bonuses for their first 10 selections. Players selected after the 10th round can be signed for up to $150,000 without it impacting the salary pool. Any amount over $150,000 to a player drafted after the 10th round will be deducted from the bonus pool.

The Angels make exceed their bonus pool by 10% before incurring any penalties by MLB, so the team essentially has an extra $1,555,640 they can spend to try to lure young talent.


Turk’s Board

TT here – here’s a digested version of many of the names discussed in my various 2025 MLB Draft installments. You can basically read this as a sample of players I’m personally interested in – four to a round – ranked roughly left to right. Guys I think are solid value (and plausibly available) for each round.

You don’t have to view each column as a “package”, but I do aim for some positional diversification here, and try to create bat-heavy draft classes that still incorporate some pitching – roughly a 2:1 ratio.

Some of these names will go much earlier, or much later than suggested. That’s just the nature of stock picking in the draft. This is also not meant to be comprehensive of all the players I like in the draft. There are a lot of guys in the supplemental rounds (eg, Alex Lodise, Anthony Eyanson, Mason Neville, etc) that I just don’t think will plausibly be available in Round Two, for example.

Note too that there is very little prep pitching here. I simply don’t know who is available or affordable after the first round, so am punting a bit until Day Two, until we can basically say – these guys’ bonus demands weren’t met, maybe the Angels will get one on an overslot deal in rounds 11-12.

So that’s what the Rd 11-12 section is here – just complete guesses on the sorts of players who might fall, given current rankings and college commitments. I pair one interesting highschooler with one interesting senior sign / collegiate in each case. No predictions – just examples of potential 11-15 guys where bonus pool savings might be allocated.

Round 1 (#2)Kade AndersonJamie ArnoldEthan HollidayJoJo Parker
Round 2 (#47)Mitch VoitQuentin YoungJB MiddletonCade Obermueller
Round 3 (#79)Taitn GrayGavin TurleyJames Quinn IronsMichael Lombardi
Comp 3 (#105)Matt BarrMason MorrisJustin LamkinRyan Wideman
Round 4 (#109)Ethan HedgesMurf GrayJack GurevitchJacob Parker
Round 5 (#140)Grant JayColin YeamanMason WhiteColby Shelton
Round 6 (#169)Jacob MorrisonHarrison BodendorfAaron WaltonBlake Gillespie
Round 7 (#199)Cardell ThibodeauxKaleb FreemanBobby BoserAntoine Jean
Round 8 (#229)Boston SmithJay WoolfolkZac CowanJack Moroknek
Round 9 (#259)Kerrington CrossAnthony DePinoJacob WalshSlate Alford
Round 10 (#289)Jake KnappMatthew BuccieroSamuel DuttonJonathan Hogart
(Rd 11-12)Tim PiasentinSebastian NormanZach StricklandJosiah Hartshorn
Eddie King JrLandyn VidourekRobbie BurnettBrayden Simpson

Note that JoJo Parker in the fourth position in Round One is a special case. The Angels have definitely been heavily scouting him, but I like him chiefly if (1) he comes at a steep discount, and (2) the Angels reallocate that savings to other prepsters, like his twin brother Jacob, and power upside guys like Taitn Gray or Josiah Hartshorn. If the team goes young in this draft, don’t make it a one-off, make it a movement.

Have fun everyone!


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Turk's Teeth
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20 days ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

Which high school kid, haha? There are seven high school pitchers alone.

Pineapple12
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21 days ago

Neville or Turley with our 4th rounder plz Perry plz

Senator_John_Blutarsky
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Reply to  Pineapple12

“No soup for you”

Our next contestant is a 3B outside of the top 300 ranked prospects.

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
21 days ago

Bremmer seems like a great kid and will probably work out at least as a reliever and maybe even a mid rotation starting. But when you have a choice between a mid rotation starter and a power hitting everyday 3B for 10 years, I don’t get it.

Kevin
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21 days ago
Reply to  Roy Hobbs

He apparently throws strikes, has a wicked change up, and a quality fastball. Sounds a little like Jered Weaver.

Fansince1971
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21 days ago
Reply to  Kevin

I knew Jared Weaver. I worked with Jared Weaver in the Senate. Bremner is no Jared Weaver.

smithy610
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20 days ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

To be fair though, how can any of us say that until we see the kid pitch?!

Cowboy26
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20 days ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

Was that the Roman Senate ’71?

RexFregosi
Super Member
21 days ago

My mantra this morning:
There is no crying in baseball
No crying.😢

Fansince1971
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21 days ago
Reply to  RexFregosi

What about throwing things in disgust?

Pineapple12
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21 days ago

Pick 2: Los Angeles Angels — Tyler Bremner, RHP, UC-Santa Barbara

Live blog analysis: Pick No. 2 is the first shocker of the night, as the Angels take Tyler Bremner — who pretty clearly had no idea they were taking him — betting that the UCSB right-hander’s late-season surge is more indicative of who he’ll be as a pitcher than the guy many of us saw get knocked around earlier in the spring. He’s got an easy plus changeup and can hit 97, with the four-seamer playing up thanks to the presence of the change, while his slider has been inconsistent and is hindered by his delivery. He’s a big strike-thrower, though, and came into the year as the top college right-hander in the class. He lost his mother just a month ago to cancer, which many people who know Tyler thought was affecting him during the season, as it would affect just about anybody.

Keith Law scouting report: Bremner came into the spring as a potential top-five pick, but his stuff wavered and his results weren’t great, especially early in the season, and by the time he started pitching better a lot of teams up top had moved on. He has an elite changeup, probably a 70 on its own, with excellent fade, effective against hitters on both sides of the plate. His fastball has the velocity, sitting 94-96, but it’s too straight and he doesn’t command it well up in the zone. His slider would be at least an average pitch but he cuts himself off in his landing and can’t finish it out front, so while he gets good spin rates the pitch just doesn’t have the bite it needs to at least miss right-handers’ bats. He’s pretty athletic and he does throw strikes; he walked 19 batters on the season (6.1 percent), and in the last half of his year, covering seven starts, he walked 5.9 percent of batters while striking out 43.8 percent. There might be a mid-rotation starter here with some delivery help, and maybe the addition of a two-seamer.

Pick 47: Los Angeles Angels — Chase Shores, RHP, LSU

Live blog analysis: Chase Shores seems like the most Angels pick — he closed out LSU’s College World Series win, and I bet he shows up in the majors this year.

Keith Law scouting report: Shores lost his rotation spot in mid-April after giving up 22 runs in his nine starts for a 5.12 ERA, and his results weren’t necessarily better when he moved to relief — but his stuff was, as he hit 100 mph 47 times in the NCAA tournament. His main fastball is a two-seamer with huge tailing action to it, and his slider is at least a 55, up to 91 with solid tilt. He really can’t start as is, as lefties had a .412 OBP against him this spring, but several of his postseason outings — including the one that closed out LSU’s national championship — showed his upside in relief as a sinker/slider guy.

Pick 79: Los Angeles Angels — Johnny Slawinski, LHP, Lyndon B. Johnson HS (Johnson City, Texas)

Keith Law scouting report: Slawinski is a very athletic, projectable lefty with a chance for three average or better pitches now that his velocity has started to creep up. He works in the low 90s with good carry, with a low release height that adds some deception to the pitch. He shows solid control already, and his slider projects to plus as long as he finishes it out front. He also turns over a potentially average changeup, giving enough of an arsenal to see him as a future starter when he fills out. He’s a multi-sport athlete who played wide receiver and small forward until his senior year. He’s committed to Texas A&M.

Pick 105: Los Angeles Angels (compensation for not signing Ryan Prager) — Nate Snead, RHP, Tennessee

Keith Law scouting analysis: Snead was much better as a sophomore, posting a 3.11 ERA across 75 1/3 innings, almost all in relief, in his first year with the Vols after transferring from Wichita State. His junior year was a big step back, as his ERA jumped to 4.53 and he gave up more contact on his fastball. He was up to 100 in the postseason, although he was 92-95 when I saw him in early April, and his out-pitch is a power curveball in the 82-85 mph range that has some two-plane break to it, but in 2025 he struggled to stay down in the zone with either pitch. He really has nothing for lefties, either, limiting him to short relief. I’d love to see if he could throw a decent sinker, since the four-seamer doesn’t miss bats in the zone at all (13 percent whiff rate this year).

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6490241/2025/07/14/mlb-draft-2025-day-1-picks-results-analysis/

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Senator_John_Blutarsky
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Reply to  Pineapple12

A number #3 starter with the second overall pick, and a reliever with the #47 overall pick.

Sorry – I’m not buying the pile of crap in the middle of the room is roses.

Pineapple12
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21 days ago

All I did was post an article. Don’t take your disgust out on me lol

Senator_John_Blutarsky
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Reply to  Pineapple12

Apologies – not my intent.

I’ll step back as my thoughts on the draft thus far have been shared.

It’s time for the “Friends of Perry” (FOP) and the Anaheim chapter of “Perry Apologists United” to present their perspectives on Perry’s results thus far.

smithy610
Super Member
21 days ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

“Can throw 100 MPH”

This is like Perry’s version of drafting a “toolsy athlete” rather than a baseball player, but for pitchers.

Pineapple12
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21 days ago
Reply to  smithy610

😂😂😂! Perry is salivating at the chance to draft Jack Bauer in 20 minutes. HSer who has topped out at 103 lol

Pineapple12
Legend
21 days ago

ANAHEIM, Calif. — As the Los Angeles Angels continue to work their way through the MLB Draft, this is a tracker following who they select in the second, third, and fourth rounds.

No. 47 Angels select Chase Shores in the second round

Fresh off of getting the final out of the College World Series, the Angels have selected RHP Chase Shores from LSU in the second round.

“He’s a guy they really leaned on going down the stretch, Angels director of scouting Tim McIlvaine said. “He really kind of started to hit his stride down the stretch and got some big outs for them.”

Shores has been a name the Angels have been interested in for a long time. Coming out of high school, McIlvaine said they wanted to take him but knew he was leaning more towards attending school at LSU.

“He’s really athletic for 6’8″. He’s originally from Colorado. We actually had a lot of interest in him out of high school. Talked to him then. Met with him at the combine then. Did a lot of work on him then,” McIlvaine said. “But just had a bigger commitment at LSU. Ended up going there.”

Appearing in 23 games last season, Shores had 9 starts with a 5.09 ERA, 1.461 WHIP, and 70 strikeouts. In 2023, he pitched in seven games, starting in four, and had a 1.96 ERA with a 1.309 WHIP

In April 2023, his season was cut short after having Tommy John Surgery during the Tigers’ College World Series run. He did not pitch in 2024.

Shores, who stands at 6’8″, 240 pounds, is known for being a hard-throwing pitcher who threw for over 100 MPH 47 times last season.

His fastball works around 94-98 MPH while his slider reaches in the mid-80s.

The scouting report on Shores is that he has a 65 fastball, 55 slider, and a 45 changeup.

“He’s got a big arm. I mean he’s been up to 101. He’s got a really good breaking ball,” McIlvaine said. “Sometimes it takes these bigger longer guys a little bit put together. And it just takes a little extra time to sync it up and I think that’s a little bit of the case with him too. So it’s nice when analytics and scouting can agree on a guy and he’s one of those guys for us.”

No. 79 Angels Select Johnny Slawinski

With the 79th pick in the draft, the Angels selected 6’3″ 180 180-pound LHP Johnny Slawinski from Lyndon B. Johnson High School in Johnson City, Texas.

Slawinski was regarded as the 65th top prospect and has a national ranking of 50 and 5 among LHP’s in this year’s draft and is the reigning 2025 Prep Baseball Texas Player of the Year.

“Really good athlete. He’s a good hitter on top of being a pretty good pitcher too.” McIlvaine said.

Last season, he pitched in 74 innings and had 177 strikeouts with a 0.37 ERA and a 0.49 WHIP.

Four pitches in his arsenal, his fastball touches 95 MPH and has a slider that reaches the up 70’s. Slawinski is only 18 years old so those numbers could increase over time.

“He’s got a good fastball,” McIlvaine said. “…But we’ve seen up to 95. Pitches around 93. Throws a ton of strikes. Got a good delivery. The arm works well. Flashes a breaker now and has feel for a changeup.”

Scouts grade his fastball with a 55, curveball at 50, slider 55, and his changeup at 55.

During his time in high school, he was a four-sport athlete who played baseball, football, basketball, and track & field.

Right now, Slawinski is committed to Texas A&M, but McIlvaine said that he has talked with Slawinski about his future and Slawinski believes his best route is going through the big leagues instead of college.

No. 105 Angels select RHP Nate Snead

The Angels ended the draft by taking 6’2″ 212 pound RHP Nate Snead out of Tennessee.

Snead won a College World Series with Tennessee in 2024 as a relief pitcher for the Volunteers.

Last season, he was moved around between a reliever and as a starter. The Angels plan to give him the chance to compete as a starter.

“We’re gonna give him the chance to start. At least to log some more innings and get a little more familiar with his pitch package and what he’s gonna go with moving forward,” McIlvaine said. “Tennessee has kind of used him in a variety of roles out of the bullpen.”

Pitching in two seasons with Tennessee, Snead went 14-4 with a 3.67 ERA and 103 strikeouts.

During the Volunteers College World Series run, Snead appeared in 29 games for them and tossed 75 1/3 innings with a 10-2 record, 3.11 ERA and 61 strikeouts.

Unable to match the numbers of his 2024 season, Snead appeared in 49 2/3 innings last season in 23 games with a 4.53 ERA, 42 strikeouts.

The walk numbers for him went down last season after throwing 26 in 2024; he had 21 last season.

Snead has five pitches in his arsenal in his fast fastball graded at 60, a 55 curveball, 50 slider, 50 cutter and a 45 changeup.

Arguably, his best pitch is his fastball as it sits around 95-97 MPH. It will also reach 101 MPH.

He’s got a four-seam. He’s got a two-seam. We really like the two-seam too so we might let him lean into that a little bit as a start or two and see where that goes,” McIlvaine said. “But he goes right at hitters. He gets ground balls. He’s a good kid. He’s a good competitor too. So I’m pretty excited about him.”

https://www.thesportingtribune.com/2025/07/13/mlb-draft-tracker-angels-second-third-and-fourth-round-picks

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Senator_John_Blutarsky
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Speaking of the Angels taking Bremner at No. 2, to say that nobody saw it coming would be understating it.

Though it was always likely that Bremner would go somewhere in the first round, anyone who mocked him at No. 2 overall would have been at risk of being, well, mocked. He only entered Sunday as MLB Pipeline’s No. 18 draft prospect.

To be clear, Bremner is absolutely worth rooting for. He is also undeniably talented, and the Angels think there’s more to him than meets the eye.

“We’ve been following Tyler for years,” said scouting director Tim McIlvaine to MLB.com’s Rhett Bollinger. “We really like Tyler’s changeup. We think it’s a pitch that, whenever he’s in trouble, he can go to that changeup. He can get outs with that. We like his fastball a lot at 98 mph, and he’s six-foot-[two] and he’s going to put on more weight. There’s a lot you can dream on.”

The catch is that Bremner is going to be a two-pitch pitcher until he develops a breaking ball that he can count on. Some starters can pull that off, but it generally takes three solid pitches to avoid ending up in a bullpen.

This was a reach, in other words, and one that cost the Angels a shot at the best pitcher in the draft class. And they didn’t exactly make up for it with their next three picks, none of which was a major steal.

Senator_John_Blutarsky
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The argument that Jedi can’t draft is not credible. He again ran circles around Perry.

tanana40
Super Member
21 days ago

Though, that is a low bar.

Senator_John_Blutarsky
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Reply to  tanana40

Truth

Fansince1971
Legend
21 days ago

It was handed to him in some ways. This draft was set up and put on a silver platter for Jedi.

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Legend
Reply to  Fansince1971

However, as Perry has shown, even a lay-up can be bricked.

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Legend

I really want to hear the Perry defenders out there – and you know who you are – spin this into something positive. This was a draft that the Angels needed to get at least two above average MLB regulars from, and the argument can be made that they didn’t even get one above average MLB talent.

As for Bremner signing below slot as being the reason for his selection, I’m calling bullshit. Anderson signed below slot and he has more upside than Bremner.

I haven’t even begun to dissect taking a reliever at #47…..and I don’t care how hard the kid throws.

The draft was NOT dictated by Arte. The team will spend its entire draft budget allocation, Arte can’t penny-pinch here and force an outcome. Perry owns these selections – every bit of it. Drafting at #2 is “rare air” that the team may not see again for years given the CBA structure. Perry completely fucked it up.

Fansince1971
Legend
21 days ago

I have never expressed any “hate” of Perry and actually have liked some of his moves like getting O’Hoppe and his return last trade deadline as well as certain draft picks such as Neto, Schanuel and Moore. I also was not critical of the all pitcher draft given the deep need for pitching talent at that time in the minor leagues. So you can appreciate that I am not a Perry hater.

But today I am numb with disappointment as to day 1 of the Angels’ 2025 draft. There was so many missed opportunities and that is said with a willingness to wait and see on Bremner. It’s one thing when you draft at #10. Something completely different at #2 then #47.

Perry shit the bed on Day One from a missed opportunity standpoint. Pure and simple.

Last edited 21 days ago by Fansince1971
BannedInLA
Super Member
21 days ago

Well this thread is like a black cloud on a rainy day in a funeral home with some early B-Side stuff from The Cure playing in the background.

Which of these 4 is closest to making an MLB appearance?

Last edited 21 days ago by BannedInLA
gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Honestly, from what I was told by scouts this summer, we have an about average scouting staff now. I seriously doubt the “arte won’t draft Boras guys” thing too. Unfortunately I think this draft was all Perry just doing something he has in his head. I actually like Bremner. But after that Salwiski is an OK pick and use of saved draft cap, but not at pick 3, and the other two guys? WTF man? You can do that type of shit after lunch tomorrow. The guys we left out there… hell, even if you were hell bent on going all pitching for these rounds, you still could have done so much better. Huge turd of a first day.

I was wait and see on the PTP front but he screwed the pooch here.

Turk's Teeth
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21 days ago

Hell, if they wanted to go all pitching, they would have gone Kade Anderson, Anthony Eyanson, Mason Morris and Jack Bauer… and what a Day One that would have been!

Fansince1971
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21 days ago
Reply to  Turk's Teeth

Agree 100%. Potentially transformative. So why didn’t they do something like that? Is it money? I mean it has to be right?!

Turk's Teeth
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21 days ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

Nah, watch. I bet they spend their whole bonus pool regardless.

Fansince1971
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21 days ago
Reply to  Turk's Teeth

I wasn’t clear – I meant are they saving money for later round picks? While I get that strategy sometimes – it has to be flexible when really good talent is available in earlier rounds.

Senator_John_Blutarsky
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Reply to  Fansince1971

Do you trust these imbeciles to select “good talent”?

Does drafting under-talent at #2 to have a little more money to take a flyer on a high school kid in round #10 really make more sense for the Angels? Hell, if I’m the Dodgers with a deep farm system – taking those risks makes more sense. The Angels with a low rated farm system – not so much.

Senator_John_Blutarsky
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Reply to  Turk's Teeth

Exactly. The draft is not the same as signing free agents or extending current contracts. The “Scrooge McDuck” perspective that Arte forced signing lesser talents to save money holds no water when it comes to the draft.

Draft Seth Hernandez
Member
21 days ago

1st off thank you Turk for all the information. It has to be painful to put in all this time to scout these players and to watch what is in my mind the worst organization in North America sports just piss away a prime opportunity to get better. Until Angels fans stop showing up to home games nothing is going to change with this poverty organization.

Turk's Teeth
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21 days ago

Thanks. Yes , it’s painful, but part of the reason I do it is to familiarize myself with new generations of talent regardless of what the Angels do. So it has its own rewards.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Then do it. Don’t show up.

Phil
Trusted Member
21 days ago

Once Trout retires (or else is traded), we don’t plan to go as often.
It’s fun to watch Trout, even if the prime years are gone. Sometimes, it’s frustrating.

GrandpaBaseball
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21 days ago

Dos or 2 or to or too, tu, no matter how you see today’s draft we have two new relief pitchers, hmm, why? PTP is just a kid trying hard to play with baseball cards and hoping the other guys like him. What a Dick Weed. 😠 

MarineLayer
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21 days ago

I’ve been saying this all this time. He is an intern with no one to report to. He’s even worse at his job than I previously thought.

Turk's Teeth
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21 days ago
Reply to  MarineLayer

Tony Reagins-esque really.

Fansince1971
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21 days ago

There is no spin for this day 1. For a team with the #2 pick and lots of opportunity, this is among the worst draft day ones I have ever seen from a sheer missed opportunity standpoint. I am absolutely blown away by the missed opportunity with the worst farm in baseball.

Even if can stomach the Bremner pick or at least try to spin it, the rest of the day is just mystifying to me. There was no drafting to fill need despite numerous opportunities to do so.

Was this money driven? Was this the result of mediocre scouting and poor preparation? Who knows.

The reality though is that this Org continues to be bottom three at best. But we have fireworks Saturday and bobble head giveaways! This is just a sick, shitty Organization.

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Turk's Teeth
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21 days ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

The Perry draft room has “one weird trick” – drafting relievers who they hope they can develop as starters, and they repeat the move again and again, outside of a below slot first rounder they hope to rush to the MLB club.

No attempt at class diversification, no attempt to inject positional talent at multiple levels for the farm.

It’s bizarrely obtuse, and there’s been little attempt to adjust midstream. If you’re going to be contrarian, you have to hit your marks, and outside of the first round, they’ve missed them consistently (Bachman and Moore are TBD).

Last edited 21 days ago by Turk's Teeth
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21 days ago
Reply to  Turk's Teeth

You think Bachman is tbd? It’s been 4 years, he was a huge red flag reliever risk when he was drafted and guess what. He is at best a major league reliever. What an absolute depressing day

Turk's Teeth
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21 days ago

I think Bachman is a reliever, yes.

Fansince1971
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21 days ago
Reply to  Turk's Teeth

It’s a bizarre strategy with no proven record of success whatsoever with any team. It’s one thing if you have a great farm system and you try to think outside the box. But the Angels farm is awful with holes everywhere. How they don’t draft to fill areas of need under such circumstances is totally beyond me. I am just speechless. Wasted opportunity is too kind to describe this draft.

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Senator_John_Blutarsky
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Reply to  Turk's Teeth

Turk – don’t forget drafting a starter (Detmers) in the top 10 to end up with a reliever.

Marcotor
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21 days ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

I think you got it, it’s all three. Money, failure to invest in proper scouting, and piss-poor preparation. It’s sad, really. The road to mediocrity goes thru Anaheim and will for the near future. Invest in a big splash (who may r may not sink to the bottom) from time to time to calm the honks, rinse, repeat. Distract with jumping monkeys for the youngsters, bobbleheads, and racing dots.

Kevin
Trusted Member
21 days ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

The money issues are driving the picks. The Halos go for below slot guys so they can make more alleged value picks later. FWIW, fans complained about Schanuel and various other higher picks before. Neto, Schanuel, Moore etc. look ok to date.

For the last year, Bremer was reviewed as a top college arm. He was heavily scouted. His results may not have been ideal. But he has real stuff, and they likely know a ton about him.

The second guy Shores has talent. He might be a diamond in the rough.

The high school guy I cannot comment on. But saving money was clearly part of this all. Let’s hope round four results in some quality.

Fansince1971
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21 days ago
Reply to  Kevin

It’s not the draft they had so much as the draft they could have had. I get the narrative and spin on Bremner. I’ll wait and see on that pick. The rest of them were garbage compared to what was available and what could have filled areas of need.

Senator_John_Blutarsky
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Reply to  Kevin

Look at who was available when these picks were made. Hell – Shore is a reliever with a 5 ERA in college! That’s the problem.

It’s impossible to polish a turd and sell it as a diamond.

GrandpaBaseball
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21 days ago

Just came in and turned the computer on. I couldn’t hardly wait to see Anderson-Holliday-Hernandez name at the second draft pick, Let’s see if I got this right, M’s landed Anderson, Rockies landed Holiday, and we have the second pick and take last year’s college stud pitcher from medium sized school and then I said to GrandmaBaseball-beam me up Scotty as we flew by planet earth. Ok,Ok, I’ll wake up in the morning to see that life imitates Alice in Wonderland. Tantrum, “WTF is Perry thinking”. We have a gaping hole at third base do we not and we could use a pitcher to lead us to the playoffs, oh, someone like Anderson or Hernandez become a CYA winner and the f ing Pirates score. Perry is on heavy medication or drugs but again goes with slot shit money with second pick in the draft. At least Holiday and Hernandez are in the National League-oh, wait, now days we play everyone, jeez I now will here I don’t know anything about college players, and you’d be right as I didn’t care for last year’s pick either and now see promise.

Terry
Trusted Member
21 days ago

GAPING HOLE AT THIRD BASE! Spot on!

Cowboy26
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21 days ago
Reply to  Terry

Don’t worry we’re gonna sign Alex Bregman this off season

Drew-S
Member
21 days ago

Serious question here; A few years back there was the all pitchers draft.
Yeah, our rotation is a ‘bit’ better (or incrementally better?). And now more bullpen pitchers drafted.Wasn’t Bachman being drafted in the first round clear that he would likely be a bullpen pitcher as well?

I simply don’t understand how this is possible. is this all on Perry, and is Perry the best we can get as there might be better options out there but no one wants to be involved with Arte? Long question but any info is appreciated.

Turk's Teeth
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21 days ago
Reply to  Drew-S

None of the pitchers drafted in that 2021 draft are in the rotation, so it has little bearing on whether the Angels’ current rotation is a ‘bit’ better or not. It was a failed draft class.

Drew-S
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21 days ago
Reply to  Turk's Teeth

Thanks Turk. Would you say the entire class (mlb) was a weak draft, or just the Angels?

smithy610
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21 days ago
Reply to  Drew-S

I’m not Turk but Boston, Orioles and Pirates seemed like they had a great draft based on who they picked

Drew-S
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21 days ago
Reply to  smithy610

No surprise. I don’t know if it’s our scouting or Perry, or a combination of both of them. I do remember the scout who drafted Trout was fired a few years later iirc. Doesn’t make much sense to say the least.

Fansince1971
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21 days ago
Reply to  Drew-S

Good ole Eddie Bane. He and his scouts were fired by Tony Reagins and the last 15 years has been the legacy. Angels went from being one of the best minor league systems to one of if not the worst.

Cowboy26
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21 days ago
Reply to  smithy610

Go back and look at the 2021 first round . It was a shit burger draft

Drew-S
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21 days ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

You might have answered my question.

Turk's Teeth
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21 days ago
Reply to  smithy610

Pirates’ haul is pretty speculative though – could bust across the board. But it makes some sense for the state of their system, and they’re good at developing pitching.

Baltimore and Boston rocked it.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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A’ss weren’t bad either. Twins pretty good…. Rays were good.

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Turk's Teeth
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21 days ago

Should have mentioned the Twins – that was one of my favorite classes.

A’s didn’t have many picks, but got two first founders with what they had.

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Turk's Teeth
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21 days ago
Reply to  Drew-S

Average draft class, a little weak at the top, but deep in talent.

The Angels’ haul is probably bottom three or four to me. It’s a weak, weak group.

Baltimore had the best Day One and it’s not close – they had a ton of extra picks, but didn’t waste any of them. Four top 50 guys, lots of diversification.

I love the Boston draft a lot. Seattle and Colorado had drafts I really like. KC and the Dodgers have intriguing classes.

Miami had a bat-first draft that would have benefitted the Angels system quite a bit. And St Louis took the players that I thought a (smarter version of) Perry would take.

Terry
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21 days ago

There is a black hole death valley at 3b, nothing in the minors to fill it. These stiffs the Angels are rolling out there are pathetic. The one thing that is never forgivable is lack of hustle, and its on display with parts of this team. Was hoping the 3b and quality bat would be addressed with this draft. No such luck.

JackFrost
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21 days ago
Reply to  Terry

Lack of focus…. lack of seriousness. Both Rengifo and Moncada are clowns. Probably why other teams have discarded Moncada…yeah, he has the power skill, but first and foremost you have to be able to make the easy play at 3b…. The every day play.

If you mess that up we can’t keep you. It hurts the team too damn much. Just get me somebody who can field the position.

Terry
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21 days ago
Reply to  JackFrost

Listening to the radio broadcast today, it was obvious Mark Langston was so aggrevated at Moncada. He mentioned the failure to make the play four times. The Diamondback announcers said regarding the play “99% of single A players make that play.” Moncada was pulled from the game a couple of innings later. The Halos need an ass kicker as a manager.

FungoAle
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21 days ago
Reply to  Terry

The way he flips the ball across the diamond at times is hot dogging, too lazy to set his feet and use is arm

JackFrost
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21 days ago
Reply to  FungoAle

The guy is a hot dog… undisciplined. No way Bochy would have that guy on the roster.

And there is a reason the Rangers are the best fielding team in the Bigs. It is about focus and discipline. And it starts with the Manager !!

JackFrost
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21 days ago
Reply to  Terry

Yep. That was unforgivable. These are basic fundamentals that you learn in Little League…. Like, “Okay Yoan, just get in front of the ball…” You block the ball with your body etc…

So true that 99% of single A 3b make that play. It cost us the game… the whole inning unraveled because of that. Can’t put him out there… BTW, also made a lazy lame-ass throw that pulled Schanny off the bag and put the runner on first….

This guy is pathetic.

Turk's Teeth
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21 days ago

Based on my boards + BPA, alternative draft:

2: Kade Anderson
47: Quentin Young (my board) or Devin Taylor (BPA)
79: Taitn Gray (my board) or Anthony Eyanson (BPA)
105: Gavin Turley (my board) or Mason Neville (BPA)

Brutal to see that if I had been in the draft room, I could have had all of my first or second choices in each round.

(I suspect I would have gone Quentin, Eyanson btw, as it’d be too tempting to get two LSU rotation pieces over two boom/bust bats.)

Turk's Teeth
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21 days ago
Reply to  Turk's Teeth

And just to make the hard decisions here, and call between BPA and my fetish picks, I’d go:

Anderson, Young, Eyanson, Turley

Now we can grade my homework in 3-5 years.

Eric_in_Portland
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21 days ago
Reply to  Turk's Teeth

Mine was the same except Alex Lodise where you have Young

Turk's Teeth
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21 days ago

I look at the contact data and just worry Lodise is a utility guy that struggles to hit at AA and above.

Young is every bit as hit tool challenged, but the ceiling is much much higher.

I just figure if I’m going high probability with Anderson, I can go upside risky with my #2.

Turk's Teeth
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21 days ago

Ok, I said I’d wait until all the Day One picks were in until I passed judgement.

Judgement:

This is a shitty little draft that consistently evaded BPA, upside and systemic needs.

Two of the four Day One selections were relievers I (somewhat sardonically) said Perry would pick, combined with a young developmental arm that is as far away as TGA and Jordon.

Not an upside bat along them.

Bremner will make the MLB club in 1-2 years and half the fanbase will be calling Perry a genius, because of course they will.

It is what it is.

steelgolf
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21 days ago
Reply to  Turk's Teeth

It could have been a good draft, until they chose Chase Shores. This guy will get crushed by MLB hitters unless a pitching Svengali can work a miracle. Slawinski is an okay long term project, maybe 2029 or 2030 if all goes well. No bats with a farm that has not many bats. Yeeesh.

Turk's Teeth
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21 days ago
Reply to  steelgolf

Swawinski should be a Day Two round #11 guy with their bonus pool.

They passed up mid-rotation now arms for that.

steelgolf
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21 days ago
Reply to  Turk's Teeth

And then took another reliever, with suspect stuff, because “velocity”.
https://www.mlb.com/milb/prospects/draft/nate-snead-805422

Roy Hobbs
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21 days ago
Reply to  steelgolf

Our farm has no bats, not not many.

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