Fire everybody! Fire everybody … everybody! Anyway, the Rockies just fired Bud Black.
Mike Trout says he will be right back. The objective evidence says otherwise.
In this article about one prospect from each team who might be a closer, Ryan Johnson was picked for the Angels. Is he a prospect? Is he a closer? Discuss.
Raphael Devers added playing first base to the list of things he won’t do for his team. You’d think he would have learned by now. Fire him! I have spoken.
Because we’ve decided that D’arnaud is Kikuchi’s personal catcher, on a team that is struggling to score runs, we are sitting our HR and RBI leader for a night game after a day game. You can’t chase wins every night.
Don’t disagree with him, but….
Why do I get the feeling that many think (especially Doc Roberts himself) could make them a great team, in a short amount of time, with the pure genius of just “Being Doc”.
Dodgers manager Dave Roberts wasn’t happy with the Rockies firing skipper Bud Black on Sunday. In Roberts’ view, the Rockies’ failures fall more on ownership than on his former mentor.
“I’m bummed. I’m disappointed. I don’t think Casey Stengel could change the outcome of that ballclub,” Roberts told reporters on Sunday, via the Los Angeles Times
I don’t mean argue, especially with a Doctor, but… typically people that have been dead for fifty years are less effective than they once were.
When Casey Stengel managed baseball, water hadn’t even been invented yet, it was that long ago.
Why is it that Roberts can have the stage to criticize another organization? Stay-N-Yo-Lane.
As always, suck-it, Dave.
He’s Center Cut Doc Robert’s. Life is good.
I remember Casey managing the Mets. I don’t recall the exact stats but the top pitcher was something like 8-24. When Casey had Mantle and Maris and Ford and Berra he won. When he had Roger Craig, Jack Fisher, Elio Chacon he didn’t become a worse manager.
Dave Roberts is a tool. So of course he uses a guy who actually exemplifies himself…. Stengel and Roberts are both great as long as you buy them enough talent to stock three normal teams.
My thoughts exactly.
Kikuchi tonight. I predict he’ll get his first win!
You’re a brave man.
I predict no run support. Seems like almost every season their is at least one Angels pitcher who pitches well but gets no offensive support.
I think the Angels score 1 run tonight max.
lol
I hope you’re right as he has seen some bad breaks. I remain dedicated to my Budist-like focus on low expectations.
This is going to be a tough, arduous road trip with 2 or 3 wins if we are lucky. It will be like a long haul trucker, never pulling over to shower, eat or sleep….peeing in an empty gatorade bottle, and recycling his urine…then catching a bladder/kidney infection without access to healthcare or antibiotics. With a painful, inflamed and Infected hemorrhoid. But our Ippei-Betts.com account will love it.
TIPS FROM A LONG TIME COMMERCIAL TRUCK SALESMAN
Get your Ippei Betts ready my friends !
This is the trip where we rake in the bucks !!
Sam Hat flashes his leather… Perry asked him if he can pitch? Sam Hat -125 odds favorite to replace Connor Brogdon in bullpen for tonight’s game. Not a joke…… 🙃 or it shouldn’t be.
I took infield drills with Ron Washington.
It was…incredibly hard.
A story on my experience with Wash, as he navigates managing the
I am a hat hatter. But it is a cool idea of his to take IF drills same as a player from Wash. That’s a fun article.
Agree. I like it even more Wash probably was 100% was into it, and preaches his rock solid fundamentals from his Fielding Bible.
Now, I volunteer to sign up for his Base-Running 101 Class. Let’s see if he can convince me that base running is as complicated as his team makes it look. And maybe he’ll let me race Flash Schanuel.
Flash will burn you so so hard.
George Klassen was struck by a batted ball and had to leave the game with assistance from the trainer.
https://x.com/AngelsMiLB/status/1921638876105310283
Posted this before yesterday’s beat down…in typical org style, no updates. It really must be an organization wide mandate to conceal and distort the truth about injuries.
The only surprise is that they actually have the organizational continuity to accomplish a gag order.
It was a tough game to watch all around. He has been really struggling that game – getting hit around to the tune of 5 ERs before the fourth, then he got clobbered by that line drive, with little info since on the injury.
He had been dealing with a blister issue in his previous start that was impacting command as the game went on, so not sure if that was a factor in his struggles prior to the line drive that took him out.
The Angels say that Klassen is improving today. Still undergoing tests
From Fletcher X
Now that there is a Pope that is a White Sox fan do you think he can get Manfried to give the 1919 Black Sox a full pardon or at least Shoeless Joe?
First thing is first-Was Pete Rose Catholic?
Gotta start with more recent events.
Sorry but Pete didn’t play for the Sox
There’s been lots of chatter that the Angels would be better if they could only stay healthy, but I think that sentiment applies to every organization. The difference with the solid teams is organizational depth and this season is once again demonstrating just how thin that the Angels are.
Lots of misallocated resources with Rendon and some others but you really can’t blame them for extending Trout.
I don’t blame them for Trout’s contract-We all know he wants to play.
Had Trout went to FA (Pre-Former employee #17) the Halos would’ve needed anew stadium because fans would’ve ripped it down barehanded. AND, BTW, former employee #17 would never have been in Anaheim.
Rendon played 916 games for Washington and never displayed the level of injury/missed games that he’s had with the Angels.
Retrospectively the contract has been one of the worst ever. However until he stepped on the ancient burial grounds, he never previously displayed being injury prone or a head case to the degree he’s shown with us.
I agree with the first point, but when players get that retirement contract, they tend to become quite fragile and unmotivated. I was focused on the outcome, not original scenario. Trout being a former 1st round pick and such also playing into my viewpoint.
Hindsight is always 20-20. The Rendon stuff about baseball being a secondary consideration rather that a priority in his life now seems to be a flag. Ideally you want players with no desire for balance in their lives who live to play.
The Angels need to reconnect with the tribe that blessed the stadium prior to the 2002 season.
This age old argument still rages. Right now, injuries or no, the team would suck. But there have been teams where the injury bug was so catastrophic that we basically had 2/3 of what would have been a starting line up out with injury for a huge chunk of the season plus some missing pitchers. No team is ever deep enough to replace three important players getting hurt for a huge chunk of the season….. maybe not even the Dodgers and their huge pile of cash. It doesn’t matter if the greatest genius ever to walk the earth is their GM.
I agree for the most part. I still hold to the belief that most of what is wrong is due to a failed or non-existent culture. It’s hard to meet standards without knowing what those are.
Anybody want to read an article about how evil racist baseballl is only 35.7% minority? Not counting Asians…. you know, the minority that doesn’t count.
Well, here you go. This guy basically explains the reasons there “aren’t enough” African Americans in the MLB and they are the reasons I always put out too. Basically, no one thinks your cool if you play it in high school and cheerleaders don’t want to celebrate with you.
Apparently the MLB and it’s fans have to arrange for black boys to be Black Heroes and then we can all enjoy some quality equality but evil baseball doesn’t care. There is no super secret way baseball is keeping non-whites out of the sport. It’s why half my favorite players aren’t white. If a black kid wants to play, let em play. But if he enjoys basketball and football more, or track etc. Good on him. Everybody have a good time. Baseball is just never gonna be the NBA as far as it’s personality goes.
They’ve done all kinds of impartial looks at this phenomenon. In “Urban” settings, a football field and a basketball court are a lot easier to maintain year round and they require just a ball and few players-One person for basketball.
Baseball on the other hand needs a more manicured/maintained field, bats, ball, gloves, catching equipment, bases, multiple players, etc. I remember having to jump a fence to go retrieve the only ball we had to play with as I was the one that fouled it off. The Dodgers (Bile rises) do a good job rehabbing forgotten and deficient baseball fields throughout many communities. Darryl Strawberry (and I believe Torri Hunter too) used to be in a org that resurrected “Urban” baseball fields. In my area the city maintained the baseball parks and had year-round activity, so they never fell into disrepair.
On the cheerleaders, you are right-None at our HS baseball games, though I didn’t miss them. Probably the same for the other peeps on here.
Until a few years ago, the % amount of American players overall were on the decline, especially at catcher, but that seems to have leveled off a little IMHO.
I don’t know, is it lunchtime yet?
I lived in Oakland. The ground zero of MLB funded pristine baseball fields that kids played football on.
Youch! I thought the living in the IE was bad.
Hope the author finds the mental help he needs. Wonder if Esquire can get him some therapy.
I just don’t buy the “it’s impossible to baseball unless someone invests millions” thing. Most high schools have a field. They are what I continued to play pick up games on through my 30s. In almost ALL cases we could never find 18 guys to play. So we’d play with three guys hitting a bucket of old shitty balls…. or play Over The Line with six guys… or what ever. A kid that caught for another high school and I would throw bullpen off the mounds at my high school over the summer. With no gear. Dirt poor Dominican kids play with duct tape equipment.
African American kids just don’t want to play baseball. Making the sport more “urban” and “relatable” is bullshit…. it’s the opposite of old complaints about the three point line and current complaints about Euro players in the NBA now.
No one else needs a sport to manufacture them some heroes or make inorganic changes to the character of the sport in order for them to play it. Besides, the way even the white guys who play the game go about things has changed. And the Latin players? Man they like to party when they play. The Mets are a great example. American black people just don’t seem to enjoy it as much, and that’s OK, they can get in on it if they want or not if they don’t.
And yes, of course the MLB will still waste a bunch of money on ineffectual virtue signaling…. that’s what everyone has to do these days accept defense contractors…. actually, I lied. they do it too.
F that agitator, err “author” and anyone who thinks this is an actual problem that plagues society.
It would maybe be kind of cool if a guy wrote about HOW TO be a baseball player without tons of camps and instruction. How do the Venezuelan kids do it? Because, if you are really good, and all you do is play HS ball, scouts will still find you. A lot of camps also have scholarships. A lot of summer ball too. Hell, most of the high end instructs I know of will BEG a black kid with half the ability of a white kid to come for free.
There are ways to play and practice without 20 friends who want to play baseball. A mit is a mit. A bat is a bat. It’s not impossible. Most of those hated white players back in the day just played on fields or city streets. It can be done.
I think it should be done too. Black athletes SHOULD focus more on baseball. It pays well. The pay is guaranteed. You don’t get your brains beat in. There are options, too slow to play CF? Pitch. Or play 1B etc.
It’s never gonna be a “black” sport because too many people love it. I get it. I’ve seen how football functions in rural Louisiana or basketball in Memphis. It’s a big deal, you are a local hero, there is pomp and hype and BBQ around every game. Girls want you. It’s part of their culture, and that’s cool. Baseball is never gonna be that and it’s never gonna allow for the swagger that seems to be demanded here because you fail WAY too much and it’s a VERY team dependent sport. It’s a little annoying that something has to be “theirs” in order to be something they aren’t being excluded from.
But what do I know? I’m just a poor white devil. Maybe if we solve this then things will finally be fixed in The Communitiee. Grades go up. Fathers stick around. Gang violence stops. Rampant fraud and corruption disappear. Baseball baby!
Jeff Passan is shocked he didn’t write this…
Another year, another bullshit screed about how broken the sport is. To borrow a saw: baseball is not a Disney movie. Unless it’s Angels in the Outfield.
Jose Suarez is an Angel again.
Wait a sec….that’s Jose Quijada, so sorry ’bout that slip up.
Quijada, Suarez, QuijadaSuarez…. All the same
Quijada had some potential, before his wing went boom.
Quijada insert 93.6% of all Angels had some potential, before his wing went boom.
-trAdition
Nicely played good sir!
Not quite. There is “Q”, Jose Quintana. Another ex-Angel this “current regime” malfunctioned on.
With all these retreads, the Angels should think about utilizing the extra closet space at the Big A for old uniforms soon to be reclaimed. The team seamstress has got to be working overtime.
Quintana and Canning…sub-3.00 ERA, they could slot in as our No. 3 and No. 4.
Assuming that they would be good here.
Since the physical dimensions are the same, pitcher to catcher, guessing the Angel pitching philosophy or analytical ouji board is the influencing factor for their poor performance while pitching here?
The Cardinals? Really? That’s who is shockingly uncrap this year? Anthony Liberatore? Their Griffin Canning is now Mets Griffin Canning…. but still a Cardinal? Nolan Arrenado, old man they keep trying to trade, on track for 4 WAR season? Front office a total shit show? No prospects? No problem.
Sure. It’s likely not gonna wind up with the Red Birds in the play offs. Too many good teams chasing them. But you can clearly see the effects of good fan JuJu at work in the Gateway City.
IDK what happened it St. Louis, they declined as an org very quickly. If they just renamed the field back to Anheuser-Busch Stadium, all would be well.
IDK, maybe that is still the stadium’s name.
They were caught cheating
Besides Ozzie Smith*, Willie McGee, Tommy Herr, Terry Pendleton, Ted Simmons*, Lonnie Smith, Bob Gibson, Jim Edmonds and Mark McGwire, I never really liked any Cardinal players…..
*Very nice guy
This from the Rockies write up, applies to us.
“Of course, player effort doesn’t overcome a marked lack of talent on the roster. Colorado’s struggles have been exacerbated by lack of action from the front office, as the Rockies haven’t done much to either clearly upgrade the team, or to go in the other direction of blowing things up for a full rebuild. Monfort has often been accused of being both too optimistic about his team’s potential and too insular in his hiring practices, which has left the Rockies seemingly lagging behind the rest of the league not just on the field, but also in terms of analytics, scouting, player development, and other front office practices.”
Truth.
Someone has been reading a lot of CtPG comments lol
Those are all solid parallels. In addition, both teams play in nice cities with plenty of wealthy yuppies and fairly nice to nice stadiums and they draw a ton of people even when they suck.
Accept there is some hope maybe for us. It’s hard for me to find stuff to be sure, but side comments on places like BA hint that we have indeed hired more scouts the last couple years, paid more independent scouts, etc. We may hate them right now but they also have a fairly (by our standards) cohesive coaching system from Tempe, and all it’s new development stuff, to the upgraded place they train and play in at Rocket City and SLC, all the way to Wash and the MLB club. It’s still VERY far from being the Brewers or the Dodgers, but it’s not the slag pit it has been in the past.
Plus, unlike Rockies Ownership, Arte has proven he will spend money, but also, maybe maybe, he has figured out that huge splashes are dumb and he hasn’t tried to show the world how girthy his wallet is the last couple off seasons…. so mmaaaayyyyybeeee the stupid spending is over but we know he is willing to spend when it comes to it.
I like the Rockies. I like Denver. I like any team that can rise up and beat on the Doyers. I’d rather be an Angels fan.
All I could think about yesterday was
”Mommas, don’t let your babies grow up to be be Angelfans”
The Angels season has been a big disappointment thus far because the team has played worse year over year thus far. They have no discipline offensively or defensively, they can’t run, hit or field effectively. The coaching staff is either incompetent or lackadaisical – it might even be both. The worst part is that there still isn’t a multi-year major league talent pipeline in the minors. There is more depth in the minors, but the depth does not translate favorably thus far into a deep talent pool.
Other than Neto, the cupboard is bare. O’Hoppe is good – but definitely not at the potential level of Neto. Other than that, it’s a collection of league average potential AT BEST.
This is Perry’s mess now – can’t solely blame Arte since Perry signed up twice to be his minion.
I agree, although I believe O’Hoppe is an elite hitter for a catcher even though he doesn’t field his position as well as Neto. Neither of them walk but they are both 4-6 Win players. After that, you are right for now regarding position players.
I think O’Hoppe can have a long career – maybe be like Lance Parrish?
Both have similar builds.
He does remind me of The Big Wheel
We’ll have to see. I agree that, thus far, the young guys are not better than last year. I know that some old veterans will play and may suck and I am OK with it. And the years not over. But by year’s end we need to see some guys on the MLB team looking like pieces and we need some kids on the farm looking like they are on their way.
And yes. This will be year two of POST-Unicorn Angels and it’s pretty much Perry Ball at this point, so he’s on the clock.
You are correct. Hopefully we get to the end of the year with some improvements and increased hope as we move forward. What happens next year will certainly be interesting and especially by 2027.
So much evidence that this Organization is one of baseball’s worst at developing players. And Canning is just the latest example. And don’t use Neto or O’Hoppe as examples- the Angels did not develop those players.
As for the ‘fire everyone’ mantra – it’s silly. What did people around here expect? It’s a team that won 63 games in ‘24 and marginally improved (maybe) during the offseason. Anyone who identified this season as one where the team was going to be good or ‘compete’ are triggering themselves.
As for Trout – if he does come back it is highly unlikely he will be either durable or productive. I think we all just have to realize what he actually is – an injury prone aging superstar with lots of holes in his swing.
Everyone just relax – it is baseball and we have zero control. Summer is almost here and even if the team sucks, a warm summer afternoon watching baseball outside on tv or listening on the radio is a great experience.
What you expect is improvement at the very least. That is bare minimum. We seem to be going backwards. But I guess that is okay with you 71.’ You are like gitch in that you have very low expectations. In fact, you seem to relish the losing. If all you expect as a fan is losing then that is what you will get.
And btw, I never said “fire everybody.” I said fire Johnny Washington. Very specific. I never said to fire Barry Enright. Because I don’t think he should be fired. So, please try to be a little more accurate in your critiques of others. Thanks.
Enright is such an interesting case. I was extremely impressed with the work he did last year but he has not had similar results this season with this roster.
I’m with you in that he wouldn’t be on my list of firings.
Definitely an upgrade over Wise. How much? TBD.
Holy shit it blows my mind how much I love losing. It’s the best.
I don’t like losing but think if I expect this Org to win as it currently exists I am deluding myself. I prefer to be happy. Baseball is just not that important.
Funny, but people never say that when their team is winning !
😉
The angels don’t get credit for ohoppe and neto, but get discredited because Canning has been on another team for 6 months?
The answer is apparently yes and an innumerable amount of Halo pitchers left the halos and continued to suque wherever they landed.
Oh shit. Someone’s getting all even keeled and not respecting the feelz of true baseball man. Next thing you’ll be saying that rebuilds generally take time and that we are indeed in a rebuild. Then you’ll start spouting nonsense about how players have to be willing to sign here no matter how much Arte wants to sign them, or that teams need to want to make a trade with us no matter how badly Perry wants to make trades. You may even declare that there is absolutely no point in DFAing a player with a huge contract just because it rubs your schadenfreude the right way.
You are not a champion.
Yes. Someone else fixed him.
Some guys love to trigger themselves.
Over and over and over again
I guess Ryan Johnson can close, as long as it doesn’t conflict with his directing gig…
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Johnson doesn’t do it for me, his stuff looks very average.
So, Charles; I assume you are happy with the status quo? I say that since you seem to think that the idea of holding people accountable for doing their jobs is a ridiculous one.
It is what it is. No use getting yourself all upset. You are a smart guy. You really didn’t have any expectations for this season did you?
See my comment just above…
I’d like to see the players do better.
Yes. He is saying “the idea of holding people accountable for doing their jobs is a ridiculous one”. That is exactly what he’s saying. Your reading comprehension is impeccable and your judgement is cloudless as a desert sky. There is just no other way to look at it.
Lol. He is clearly poking fun at the comments that somebody (specifically an Angels coach or coaches ) should be fired. That is also pretty clearly a way of saying they shouldn’t be fired. Doesn’t take alot of brains to see that. Go fight some battle that you might actually win.
Is it really a battle if we’re happy with the status quo? We’d be winning already…..
They won’t fire Washington and his staff. They have the safest jobs in baseball. Arte is fine with just letting him ride out his contract to a 70 win season.
Optimistic at 70 wins 😃
Maybe Minasian who is even less competent is probably safer still.
Arte surrounds himself with sycophants. Perry is entrenched.
Sycophants or psychopathic, it’s all the same…sports psychiatrists named Art Moreno as the most clinically accurate depiction of a psychopath owner.
After analyzing 400 movies and identifying 126 psychopathic characters, a group of psychiatrists named Javier Bardem’s performance in No Country for Old Men as the most clinically accurate depiction of a psychopath.
..sociopathic?
Yes.
My memory is fuzzy. Don’t both have contracts that end after this season? Or next? I mean, I know both have the chance to lose their jobs right around when that magical Rendon money comes off the books….
Washington’s contract is up after this season, I think Perry has 1 more year.
Buddy Black next victim, if he would even want it….if Wash is canned?
Yah. I don’t know about next year’s manager. Maybe Johnny Washington? And Perry’s likely not gonna get to start the spending ramp up if the kids don’t start looking good. Arte will clear the decks…. maybe even fire Perry with one year left if he ditches Wash?
The likely point for RESET is at hand. Maybe Carpino wants to be GM? Holy shit I would laugh if it turned out he’s actually good at it….
I definitely agree with “The likely point for RESET is at hand.” I’m not a fan of Wash or the current staff but who’s a good manager for us to hire long term? Ultimately, it’s about the talent on the roster. Even though I don’t agree with some of Wash’s strategy and execution, no one is going to be successful with our current roster, especially our bullpen. As team, we are right where we were last year with regard to scoring and preventing runs. We’re still really bad at both.
And as others have mentioned recently, it’s time to not consider building around Trout when constructing the team.
You would really laugh and this site would explode if the next GM was Mike Scioscia! 😆 I wouldn’t be against having Kim Ng, but she would most likely be against taking the GM position in that front office circus.
No way Arte would hire her …. nor that she would take the job.
