Angels split series with game 4 roller coaster ride

Angels 6 Orioles 5

Ohtani opened up scoring with his team leading (tied with Renfroe) 10th home run:

Tyler Anderson loaded up the bases with birds in the bottom of the 1st thanks to a lead off single and a pair of walks, but no harm, no fowl – he managed to escape with the bases juiced.

Not to be outdone, Michael Nelson Trout joined the Angels 10 home run club with a 2 run shot in the 3rd:

For his part, Tyler Anderson was cruising after that bases loaded jam. Nothing super mind blowing, but he didn’t give up a hit with an exit velocity over 95 MPH until a game-tying Anthony Santander HR in the 5th that exited his bat at 107MPH.

This game was not without excitement as the lead changed hands several times.

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Angels take the lead

Orioles take the lead

Angels take the lead

Hunter Renfroe may have saved this game with this amazing outfield assist:

A split is better than a series loss. We’ll take the W’s where we can get them!

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Fansince1971
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1 year ago

Today showed the impact of luck turning the Angels way. The ball Renfroe fielded and then made the incredible throw on took a lucky hop up rather than to the right Or left which would have resulted in an easy double or even a triple. That runner would have then scored on the ensuing double – game tied and then who knows what happens.

Renfroe was able to field it in the air because of some good luck. He then turned and threw a strike to 2B. An incredible throw and play with an assist to some good luck.

That is why luck plays a role in baseball and it is good to see some of it go the Angels way!

MarineLayer
Super Member
1 year ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

“Luck is the residue of design,” said Branch Rickey back in the day. Roughly translated, it means generally that luck isn’t that lucky and good teams seem to get a disproportional amount of it. That said, I’m glad we had a “lucky” game, but I don’t expect too much more of it in the future.

Last edited 1 year ago by MarineLayer
55yearsangelsfan
Trusted Member
1 year ago

Walsh has been absolutely destroying triple A. Can’t imagine he won’t be brought up when we get home.

Who goes down? Any ready injuries?

matthiasstephan
Super Member
1 year ago

Probably Soto, though he hasn’t really gotten a chance this time round.

FungoAle
Super Member
1 year ago

I think your right

JackFrost
Super Member
1 year ago

Kinda lucky that Rendon went down ; that means that Urshula and Drury can still get regular playing time when Walsh comes back …

Last edited 1 year ago by JackFrost
Cowboy26
Legend
1 year ago
Reply to  JackFrost

And there it is. Frosty’s Friday Rendon Flogging has taken flight.

Dude You’re an Angel fan. I doubt you have a clue of what being lucky is.

JackFrost
Super Member
1 year ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Good point.

MarineLayer
Super Member
1 year ago

I just noticed that the LATimes doesn’t cover the Angels anymore. They use AP wire copy to cover the game, they don’t send their own reporter. Pathetic paper.

Last edited 1 year ago by MarineLayer
BannedInLA
Super Member
1 year ago
Reply to  MarineLayer

The LA Slimes is pathetic for many reasons beyond lack of Angels coverage. I’m from LA and spent most of my life there (moved to OC a few years ago, thank God)

Cowboy26
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1 year ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

Probably an intentional blackout because Arte didnt sell the team to the current LA Times owner since Arte took the team off of the market.

max
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max
1 year ago

Great win. Fully expected an early morning loss. Especially after losing the middle games. Is this the 1st series against a good team that we dint lose? Baby steps… 5 or 6 series in a row, consecitively, where we win the first game and lose the next 2. Keep winning the 1st game and we’re bound to win a series or 2 down the road. Captain Obvious, out

JackFrost
Super Member
1 year ago
Reply to  max

If you are talking about “baby steps” then how about let’s focus on trying to win this upcoming series against the Twins ? Or better yet, “let’s do our best to win on Friday night.”

BTW, we have series AT the RANGERS and AT the ASTROS coming up… Do you really think we’ll win either of those series ??

I don’t.

Last edited 1 year ago by JackFrost
Cowboy26
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1 year ago
Reply to  JackFrost

A win Tonight will be tough. We’re facing the Twins ace who has not really had a bad outing this year . Even his sole loss was a quality outing

JackFrost
Super Member
1 year ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

I am fully aware of the fact we’re facing Ryan. He has been similarly dominant to his namesake who threw 4 No No’s for us…

So, yeah, that is why I said “try” to win on Friday night..

Twebur
Legend
1 year ago

Today
Adell 3-5, 6 RBI, 1 HR, 1 2B, 2 runs scored.

DowningDude
Legend
1 year ago
Reply to  Twebur

Wowwwww

Cowboy26
Legend
1 year ago
Reply to  DowningDude

I think it’s time to option the Ward down to the great Salt Lake to regain his power stroke and then bring up Adell to platoon with Moniak in Left .

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  Cowboy26

It’s a really nice problem to have that I totally dig Ward and feel confident he’ll be an .800 OPS guy by the end, but I’m also totally into the hairbrained fantasy that BOTH Adell and Moniak will turn out to be really good for us.

It’s like the looking “issues” we have at catcher. I suffer so.

JackFrost
Super Member
1 year ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Not a bad idea.

BannedInLA
Super Member
1 year ago
Reply to  Twebur

Video game numbers.

What’s his s/o rate?

Cowboy26
Legend
1 year ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

Also what is his BB rate?

FungoAle
Super Member
1 year ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

11%

FungoAle
Super Member
1 year ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

38%, fugly

FungoAle
Super Member
1 year ago
Reply to  FungoAle

Correction, 33%

BannedInLA
Super Member
1 year ago
Reply to  FungoAle

And therein lies the problem.

That is easily 40% in Anaheim and the power numbers will almost certainly dip….

Good kid by all accounts, but I fear he’s the classic minor
league All-Star and that’s it.

Too bad.

Cowboy26
Legend
1 year ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

In Wards last 32 games hes batting .212/.282/.283 Do you really think a Moniak/Adell Platoon could do worse?

BannedInLA
Super Member
1 year ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

I’m OK with kicking the tires on the idea. If guys aren’t producing, they can take a seat. The point of “depth” is not only about injury insurance.

I simply doubt that Adell is going to produce at this level – with the caveat that I’ll happily eat crow later if I’m wrong.

Cowboy26
Legend
1 year ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

His exit velo and barrel rate have been fantastic this year which I really think is the reason for the increased average and slugging numbers.

Even if he continues his high K rate, if he can continue to hit the ball that hard at this level he will be a welcome asset to the team.

55yearsangelsfan
Trusted Member
1 year ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Not sure about bringing up Adell yet. Needs to get those strike outs down.

But definitely think Moniak should be starting every day. Let Ward sit more if need be.

Twebur
Legend
1 year ago

Almost time for the defense around 1st base to get an upgrade.

https://twitter.com/JeffFletcherOCR/status/1659335290593443841?s=20

Twebur
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1 year ago
Reply to  Twebur

Walsh today in a 13-0 SL win

3-3, 4 runs scored, 1 RBI, 1 double, 2BB, 0 K’s

DowningDude
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1 year ago
Reply to  Twebur

Incredible!!!

BannedInLA
Super Member
1 year ago
Reply to  Twebur

This translates to 1-4 at the next level.

Last edited 1 year ago by BannedInLA
BannedInLA
Super Member
1 year ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

Snark aside, getting a productive Walsh back in the lineup would be a boon on both sides.

I’d assume Drury is the most impacted in terms of AB’s?

JackFrost
Super Member
1 year ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

Actually Rendon’s injury means Drury can get AB’s at 3B. I like the idea of splitting those games between Urshula and him … Both better defensively than Rengifo of course..

Last edited 1 year ago by JackFrost
Eric_in_Portland
Legend
1 year ago

117 games left and we’re 2 games out of a playoff spot. That’s not bad.

Last year, as you recall, we hit that horrible losing streak starting in game #45. Well today was 2023’s game #45 and we won. Let’s see where we are after 58 games. The 58th game was the end of that losing streak and put us at 27-31.

Also, speaking of last year, besides that 14 game losing streak we also had a 2-14 stretch, eventually going 12-38 over a 50 game span. So that wasn’t good, but it doesn’t feel like anything like that will happen this season.

2GA2Join
Super Member
1 year ago

After losing those last two games it was easy to be critical, but I realize we just split with one of the best teams in baseball, so I guess that isn’t bad.

It’s just those games we let slip away that get me.

JackFrost
Super Member
1 year ago
Reply to  2GA2Join

Those two losses in Cleveland are the ones that really hurt ; we played well enough to sweep that series if not for a bullpen meltdown in the two losses…

Last edited 1 year ago by JackFrost
gitchogritchoffmypettis
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I know that I enjoy mediocrity far far more than the average man, but I was honestly stoked to escape Baltimore with a split. That team was hot when we were coming in.

BannedInLA
Super Member
1 year ago

Holding serve on the road against good teams is definitionally a Win.

JackFrost
Super Member
1 year ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

We didn’t “hold serve” in Cleveland. Should have won that series.

FungoAle
Super Member
1 year ago

Last year is some benchmark year we need to compare to?

DowningDude
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1 year ago
Reply to  FungoAle

It’s as good as any. Many times I forget what happened 30 minutes ago

FungoAle
Super Member
1 year ago
Reply to  DowningDude

I think we need a higher bar. There is nothing about last year that makes me want to reminisce

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  FungoAle

Given that a bunch of the basement toads around here act like this team is the same team from last year, yeah it’s a reference point.

Kiyotchan
Super Member
1 year ago

Eric, I wanted to answer your earlier question regarding how many times did Trout and Ohtani hit homeruns in the same game. I know I can depend on Japanese newspaper to keep track of that. 25 games thus far and Angels won 17 times when Troutani occurs, at 68% of the time. I conclude that is a pretty good omen when they hit homeruns in the same game.

BannedInLA
Super Member
1 year ago
Reply to  Kiyotchan

Someone tell TrouTani to hit HR’s every game.

Our problems are solved !!!

Twebur
Legend
1 year ago

He’s looked a little better lately, but…

https://twitter.com/SamBlum3/status/1659240591308500992?s=20

Cowboy26
Legend
1 year ago
Reply to  Twebur

Glad the Blumster had an original thought that wasn’t just “Arte is a bad man for not taking my questions and banning me from Writers roundtable.”

Twebur
Legend
1 year ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

I know 2022 was a career year for him. I saw a good chunk of his starts last year and it’s laughable the difference…Dodgers are great at squeezing premium results with almost everyone much of the time….the Angels? Opposite of that. Still don’t understand what their secret sauce is. And why can’t we just steal some of it.

Cowboy26
Legend
1 year ago
Reply to  Twebur

I know Farhan came out of the Doyers org and AA was with them for a short period of time between GM gigs, but the Doyers dont seem to spawn alot of successful front office execs like other teams like the Rays and the Trashstros.

Last edited 1 year ago by Cowboy26
Twebur
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1 year ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Well, the Doyer fans have maintained that “Stadium fighting Championship Belt” for decades. Fan GRiT.. Another thing we’re not good at.
https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/brawl-caught-on-camera-outside-dodger-stadium/3155828/

Last edited 1 year ago by Twebur
gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  Twebur

His final thoughts were… “Look at this soft white guy, I’ll just charge him and he’ll ****pfffft*****”

Better hydrate. When you get KTFO like that you let all the pee pee out. Stay classy and go for duh Doyers yo!

BannedInLA
Super Member
1 year ago
Reply to  Twebur

Fat, drunk vato got knocked the f*ck out !!!

FungoAle
Super Member
1 year ago
Reply to  Twebur

Dodgers are a great team and good pitching is contagious. Signed on a 1-yr deal, it was a great spot for Anderson to play to improve his FA stock. I loved Anderson in 2022 as an under the radar FA but no chance I give him that deal in 20023. I don’t like the way Perry reads the room on his FA signs.

Angels22
Trusted Member
1 year ago

My new ritual is to check Crashingthepearlygates to see the after game thread since not really watching games due to limited viewing opportunities. If the title is good, I watch the highlights. If the title is bad, I continue on with my business and could care less. Renfroe made an amazing play in the 9th. Nice win!

tommyshalo
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1 year ago

No Tungsten day!!!
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FungoAle
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1 year ago
Reply to  tommyshalo

Mike still looks sore Shohei struck him out

VladimirTrout27
Trusted Member
1 year ago

Solid win vs. a very good Baltimore team. This is why relief is so important. Wantz, Moore, and Estevez did their job but it’s a lot to ask of Devenski with that type of offense. They need more arms so they can utilize Devenski if less critical situations

rosstrade
Trusted Member
1 year ago

I hear you.

Perry stuck out with Loupy and Teppy last year.

But, so far, Moore and Estevez have been great.

BannedInLA
Super Member
1 year ago

The problem is not so much Devenski, it’s the fact that we don’t have 3 additional guys better than Devesnki.

He’s already given us more than we had a right to expect IMO.

The other guys get paid too.

VladimirTrout27
Trusted Member
1 year ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

I’m not against him, but in a tight game/series, I’d like to turn to another arm at that moment going forward. I think he’s done okay. But when the game gets tighter vs winning teams, you’d want a little more out there. Just think, had they lost the game/series what you and everyone else would’ve thought and said. “Can’t beat winning teams etc…”

BannedInLA
Super Member
1 year ago

Totally agree, the problem is that Devenski should be our 6th best reliever vs. our 3/4 best reliever.

Cowboy26
Legend
1 year ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

If your 6th best reliever has a .794 WHIP and a K/BB rate of infinity that would be a really good bullpen.

I doubt we can produce 3 relievers better than Devenski right now unless you consider Wantz to be an upgrade and somehow Loup is going to regain his status. There are some intriguing options in the minors though.

Yovan will probably be up with the big club before too long. Soriano is being groomed as a reliever in AA after a disastrous attempt at starting. Torres Murphy & Joyce have all suffered mightily from the Sweaty balls so their BB rates ( and HBP rates) are distortedly high but have been better lately with the LHP Torres probably getting the nod sooner than later

Twebur
Legend
1 year ago

Loup’er back soon in a stadium near you!!

Loup said he realizes that poor execution of pitches has been a problem, but he also continues to believe that what he describes as a “consensus effort for us a group” to throw more off-speed pitches didn’t work for him.

https://www.ocregister.com/2023/05/18/angels-lefty-aaron-loup-plans-to-return-to-what-made-him-successful

Cowboy26
Legend
1 year ago
Reply to  Twebur

Well you know what I think of his execution.

Eric_in_Portland
Legend
1 year ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

now now. We’re civilized in the 21st century

red floyd
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1 year ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

You, me, and John McKay….

Cowboy26
Legend
1 year ago
Reply to  red floyd

All in favor….

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  Twebur

Aaron. We can all look up every pitch you’ve thrown this year now if we want to. It’s called the internet. STFU and stop giving up hits.

rosstrade
Trusted Member
1 year ago
Reply to  Twebur

Hope Loup is right.

It would be great to have him come back and be effective again.

I never thought his fastballs were the key to his effectiveness, however.

He always seemed like a Rick Honeycutt kind of off speed pitcher.

MarineLayer
Super Member
1 year ago
Reply to  rosstrade

At this point, he’s blowing smoke out of his you know what because he wants to keep his job.

DowningDude
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1 year ago
Reply to  MarineLayer

This is the stage of suck known as “the finger-pointing phase.” He’ll be gone soon.

FungoAle
Super Member
1 year ago
Reply to  Twebur

Ok, he is talking big, let’s see what he’s got. He’s on the clock.

Cowboy26
Legend
1 year ago
Reply to  FungoAle

As long as that clock doesn’t run after 6th inning Im ok with that.

FungoAle
Super Member
1 year ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

I’d be willing to give him 3-5 outings, if shit dont turnaround, bye

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  FungoAle

He may not even get that. ask poor Ryan over there……

Fumid346
Member
1 year ago

Rengifo needs to be in the lineup more often. Hard to defend speed. He got us a run with his legs today

Kiyotchan
Super Member
1 year ago
Reply to  Fumid346

Rengifo reminds me of Mark McLemore, whom I followed on Seattle Mariners team when Ichiro came to the US. He was a switch hitter, played multiple positions, and had decent speed. If I remember correctly, Mark’s defense was much more steady than that of Rengifo. I was also surprised to see McLemore played for Angels before Mariners.

Last edited 1 year ago by Kiyotchan
Dogface1956
Trusted Member
1 year ago
Reply to  Fumid346

Actually I would say his playing time should be limited, he is a defensive liability in the field, his baseball instincts are terrible, except for last year he can’t hit the floor if he falls out of bed. At best he is a low end bench piece in the major leagues.

Mark McLemore was a much be much better hitter and fielder than Rengifo ever dreamed of being.

Cowboy26
Legend
1 year ago
Reply to  Dogface1956

A better Hitter? hmmmmm.

McLemore was definitely a better singer.

Last edited 1 year ago by Cowboy26
Kiyotchan
Super Member
1 year ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Based on Baseball Reference, In 2001, when Mariners won 116 games, McLemore hit .286 BA .316 SLG .790 OPS (which was his career best). He stole 39 successfully 7 unsuccessfully. He had 12 fielding errors including 7 at 3B. It is of note that Brett Boone, who had his career year with Mariners in the same year, was probably taking PEDs, though not formally proven, I would not be surprised if McLemore was on them. He looked really buffed.

I know I only picked year 2001, but his records as Angels were not that impressive, especially offensively. My conclusion, it is a wash except for baseball IQ thing. I will let people decide who has higher IQ.

Last edited 1 year ago by Kiyotchan
Cowboy26
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1 year ago
Reply to  Kiyotchan

Based upon baseball reference , in 5 years with the Angels , McLemore slashed .231/.302/.300 Those were dreadful numbers even compared to Rengifo.

Mclemore did ultimately learn to be a serviceable offensive player in 2001 and 2002 after he turned 35 years of age. These were the only seasons he posted an OPS+ over 100.(Roids anyone?) But He really never learned to hit form the right side of the plate .

Theres still much more hope for Rengifo at his young age. although his platoon problems are in reverse of Mclemore’s.

Kiyotchan
Super Member
1 year ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

You did not answer the question who has higher IQ, ha!

I do remember McLemore struggled from the right side. Without looking up in Reference, what does your eye tell you which side Rengifo hits better, left or right?

Cowboy26
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1 year ago
Reply to  Kiyotchan

Right by far.

Kiyotchan
Super Member
1 year ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

I am little surprised by your answer. Gubi also said right. But when you look at homeruns that he hit on major level, he hit total of 33, 17 of which were last year, 18 from right handed pitcher, 15 from left handed pitcher. This year, he has hit 2 homeruns from left side. I don’t see him as a homerun hitter; in fact, he swings too hard in some situations where he needs to just meet the baseball, but I appreciate his occasional pop, and I seem to remember him hitting with more authority from left side.

I know this is off subject, but both of my sons played baseball. My older one was definitely a better more athletic player, who batted and threw left only. Younger one, who is naturally right handed, seeing his beloved brother always batting left, batted left, never right. Their coaches never tried to make them into switch hitter, but I think the younger would have been a decent switch hitter. Now, my older son is an amazing amateur golfer with single handicap; he swings from right side. Kind of opposite of Phil Mickelson.

Last edited 1 year ago by Kiyotchan
Cowboy26
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1 year ago
Reply to  Kiyotchan

From BB Ref:

Career Rengifo platoon splits

RHB:.251/.296/.406
LHB:.225/.294/.342

Now this year thru today:

RHB:.273/.368/.333
LHB:.200/..307/.280

It’s interesting that even though Rengifo is walking alot more the delta in OPS between Left and Right is still drastic. But his power numbers are definitely down across the board this year a. Im actually ok with this since in the long run this will help his game.

Kiyotchan
Super Member
1 year ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Thank you so much for your information, Cowboy26-Sensei! You are my second person on this site to be esteemed with Sensei.

You must have paid subscription to Baseball Reference, I am too cheep to find those statistics you listed.

Dogface1956
Trusted Member
1 year ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

I’m not sure I would say Rengifo is a better hitter than McLemore.

Rengifo (career) Avg. 236 OBP 297 SLG 365 OPS 662 5 years (including this year)
McLemore (career) Avg. 259 OPB 349 SLG 321 OPS 690 19 years

Now I’m not saying McLemore was anything special, but I would bet that is career numbers will end up higher (maybe a lot higher) than Rengifo.

As far as fielding we have seen Rengifo already cost us two, three games because of errors and he has made some base running errors also, his baseball IQ is just not very high, it’s been a long time since I saw McLemore play but I remember him as decent at second, not the best range, but good at turning the double play. But it been a while and my memory is not what it used to be.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  Kiyotchan

Ungh. Baseball IQ…. right up there with “grit”. I know both are a thing. I also know that old white dudes watching a TV broadcast generally don’t know dick about it.

Dogface1956
Trusted Member
1 year ago

Baseball ID is knowing where to make the play when in the field, when to try and take the extra base, when to hold up. If it’s the right situation to try to take that extra base or hold up, to try to steal a base or wait, when to lay down a bunt to move the runners along. Baseball IQ has nothing to do with “grit” now you can have a high baseball ID (I think Trout has a high baseball IQ he does not throw to the wrong base, does not make errors when on base, but I am not sure I would call him gitty.

I guess what I am saying is I am an old white dude and I know when a player makes good baseball decisions that help his team win and don’t cause them to lose players like Al Kaline, Tim Salmon, Willie Mays, Henry Aaron, many others. Grit is something that I can’t really say what that is and if it helps win or causes them to lose.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  Dogface1956

I am 172 years old and have been around baseball long enough to know that “He has a great baseball IQ” is something that is usually slapped onto “player I like who is not obviously horrible at defense” and not slapped onto players that don’t make my feelz warm. As in “Tinkers Evers and Chance deserve to be in the Hall of Fame” or “Derek Jeter.”.

rosstrade
Trusted Member
1 year ago

I like me some grit with my Jimmy Dean sausage in the morning….

Kiyotchan
Super Member
1 year ago

Cowboy26 is too smart to take a bait of IQ question, whose answer can be misconstrued as racist remark.

I notice you also have grit in your username, Gritcho-Sensei. There is a Japanese word, KONJO, which means character as strong as a giant tree base. Grit (or intestinal fortitude) would be probably considered as the appropriate translation for KONJO. Many Japanese baseball players like to use this word. Hard working players possess lots of KONJO whereas players who lallygag lack in KONJO.

It is funny now that Japanese were taught in school during World War II that American are incapable of having or developing KONJO. I came to find out how wrong they were.

DowningDude
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1 year ago
Reply to  Kiyotchan

Not the R word!!!!

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  DowningDude

ramekin?

BannedInLA
Super Member
1 year ago
Reply to  Kiyotchan

Interesting information. thank you !!!

Cowboy26
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1 year ago
Reply to  Kiyotchan

Cowboy26 is too smart to take a bait of IQ question, whose answer can be misconstrued as racist remark.

WTF?

DowningDude
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1 year ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

McLemore is Irish and Rengifo is not. 🤷🤷🏿

Kiyotchan
Super Member
1 year ago
Reply to  DowningDude

When I was taught in Japanese school that America is a melting pot with color blindness, I thought they were talking about Fondue dish with white cheese and black chocolate.

DowningDude
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1 year ago
Reply to  Kiyotchan

Daijobu. Jodan ( 冗談 ) desu

Last edited 1 year ago by DowningDude
gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  Dogface1956

I think someone may have made this exact same comment last year…. and then kept repeating it… even as he became exactly average on defense and above average with the bat as the season bled out.

BannedInLA
Super Member
1 year ago
Reply to  Dogface1956

Rengifo plays multiple positions – often during the same game. I’d wager that impacts him a tad.

Cowboy26
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1 year ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

So hes a master of none for a reason?

BannedInLA
Super Member
1 year ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Perhaps.

I’m apparently in the minority here, but I like the players. He’s definitely worthy of a roster spot and still has some upsidePo, IMO.

Dogface1956
Trusted Member
1 year ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

I would respond to that by saying maybe it is not best if he plays multiple positions especially in the same game if he get’s confused.

VladimirTrout27
Trusted Member
1 year ago
Reply to  Fumid346

While I’d like to agree, he’s been bad defensively and has regressed some offensively. Maybe a tad more often, but trade him for BP help instead. My reasoning is he’s moved down the team depth chart. If Fletch makes it back, his defense will supersede Gifo.

BannedInLA
Super Member
1 year ago
Reply to  Fumid346

I think Rengifo will also have better numbers on a longer timeline, too.

FungoAle
Super Member
1 year ago
Reply to  Fumid346

Rengifo career steals: 15
Rengifo’s career caught stealing: 9

I like Rengifo but I don’t like him trying to steal.

BruinsAngelsKings
Trusted Member
1 year ago

That Renfroe throw…GD! What a play. I think more runners will realize that you do NOT run on Renfroe.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend

Words been out on Renfroe’s arm for years. Just some runners mistake him for Trout and try to take one on him.

BannedInLA
Super Member
1 year ago

OF’s gunning down base runners is one of the most underrated and exciting plays in baseball.

MarineLayer
Super Member
1 year ago

In the big picture, I don’t know how much the team needed that win, but I personally needed that win. I hope we can build off of it. I’ll leave it at that because I want to stay positive.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend
Reply to  MarineLayer

BUILD BABY! BUILD!

halofansince1978
Super Member
1 year ago

That Estevez guy might just be okay.

VladimirTrout27
Trusted Member
1 year ago

Queue Rolling Stones gif. He’s been painting black every time I watch him. He doesn’t waste pitches and attacks hitters. That’s what you want from a closer. Guys are trying to get a read and see pitches, and before they know it, they’re behind 0-1, 0-2.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend

I like him. He makes me miss healthy Quesadilla though…..

BannedInLA
Super Member
1 year ago

Quesadilla….. does this make Estevez the carne asada our bullpen of Mexican food?

DowningDude
Legend
1 year ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

Add in some Jaime Birria and – DAMN I’m getting hungry

BannedInLA
Super Member
1 year ago
Reply to  DowningDude

Well f’ing played.

Angelz4ever
Super Member
1 year ago

I never (Looks around office to see who heard me yelling) had any doubts we’d win.

Spird442
Member
1 year ago

That was a needed win. Prediction: The Angels don’t fall below .500 this year again and head into the All Star break sitting at 50-41. This does just enough to make them hold Shohei and become July buyers. A tough second half schedule to start throws them in brief flux, but they end up scraping it together and get the last WC spot. And then- who knows? Maybe they promptly lose in the WC round and Shohei leaves to the Dodgers- maybe they win the world series!

halofansince1978
Super Member
1 year ago
Reply to  Spird442

Dig your enthusiasm…we’ll see.

Cowboy26
Legend
1 year ago
Reply to  Spird442

Now Dont you be bogarting that Hopium Spirdy. make sure to pass it around

BannedInLA
Super Member
1 year ago

Nice team win, but the big boys stepped up. Hopefully Trout is going on a long tear as his home numbers are historically better.

SP is still subpar beyond Shoehei and maaaaaybe Sandoval.

3 out 4 BP pieces did their job.

Reinforcements in the form
of Walsh or Cabbage incoming?

One game over .500 after a rough 3-8 stretch is reason for cautious optimism IMO.

Fansince1971
Legend
1 year ago

Renfroe throw was unbelievable. On his back foot!

Cowboy26
Legend
1 year ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

While pointing his front foot towards Home. It was incredible. But man, we got the most perfect bounce off of the wall to make that play.

Eric_in_Portland
Legend
1 year ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Absolutely. The ball came right back to him

BruinsAngelsKings
Trusted Member
1 year ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

In this game, sometimes it is better to be lucky than good.

Cowboy26
Legend
1 year ago

I wish I had a better understanding of this luck thing you are talking about.

BruinsAngelsKings
Trusted Member
1 year ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Same here. I only know it by definition.

BannedInLA
Super Member
1 year ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

True, but even with that perfect bounce, I don’t think most OF’s make that throw.

The Trout homer was more of a tension reliever, but that Renfroe throw was the most exciting play of the day.

JackFrost
Super Member
1 year ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

It was a great throw. But he did get a very lucky hop (just saw that Cowboy mentioned this as well) that went right to him.. If that ball hits the ground first there is no way he gets Frazier at 2nd.

Last edited 1 year ago by JackFrost
Cowboy26
Legend
1 year ago
Reply to  JackFrost

A TrAditional Angel right fielder would have fumbled that ball coming off the Wall and not even had an opportunity to make a throw

Twebur
Legend
1 year ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Ward would have dove for it after running a shitty route.

aces666high
Trusted Member
1 year ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Oh he woulda thrown it, a rainbow trajectory that would have rolled to a stop in the outfield grass which would have invited an argument by the infielders as to who should get the ball.