Arte Moreno Not Selling Angels

I can’t even write anything I am so shocked, what is your reaction to this “unfinished business” of which he speaks?

The news is official, Rob Manfred commented on it too, we are stuck with the Carpino Crüe for the forseeable future…

Talk about a way to deflate hope heading into Spring Training. Kind of disgusted, really.

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tanana40
Trusted Member
10 days ago

Well, that is not good news.

PedroCerrano
Trusted Member
11 days ago

CRAP

jcstein
Trusted Member
11 days ago

Whew, and here I was about to sell my CJ Wilson jersey. GO ARTE!

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend

Man. I just keep seeing that picture of Arte and laughing my ass off. I haven’t even looked at the comments below yet, but man, I bet if we could science our way to harnessing the power of self righteous indignation and mature tantrums this current post’s comment section could power Pueblo, Colorado for a year….

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend

And Jesus do some of you guys love the concept of buttercup. It’s like you need to be cupped every now and again so you feel alive. Is it possible that the buttercups do not bloom in the fields outside, but grow within the soil of our own hearts? Fed, tended and nurtured by the very souls who then feel coated in butter and trapped in a cup when they inevitably bloom? Are our hearts themselves, full of bullshit and dirt, the very pots in which buttercups are cultivated? The song’s been gone for years now, perhaps we should try playing like it never happened, like New Coke, or or the Microsoft Zune.

Brent
Super Member
11 days ago

I will not stand for any Zune slander. That thing was far superior to the iPod. Loved my Zune.

2pints
Trusted Member
10 days ago

Jesus do you love crapping on the fanbase every chance you get. The fact that your initial reaction was to laugh at fans you interact with here for being bummed about this news is pretty weird.

2002 comes here to show his undying hate for Arte and the FO, while you seem to have the same feelings, except for the fans here. Main difference is that your comments are coherent, even if they are equally mean-spirited.

DowningDude
Legend
10 days ago

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2002heaven
Trusted Member
11 days ago

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I have two World Series championships and he doesn’t……don’t matter to me!!!
sometimes it’s very profitable to be rejected by him (GPD & Billy Eppler).
 💪  💪  💪  💪 

Last edited 11 days ago by 2002heaven
gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend
Reply to  2002heaven

He looks like he has dick itch.

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Super Member
Reply to  2002heaven

Who left the front door unlocked?

2002heaven
Trusted Member
10 days ago

The Pirates are over there———>>>>
They have openings for you!!! The Red Light shopping district of bad teams……….Royals, Pirates, Browns, Hornets.

Cowboy26
Legend
9 days ago
Reply to  2002heaven

So the Royals, Pirates, Browns, Hornets are made up of a bunch of Whores?

Source?

DowningDude
Legend
10 days ago
Reply to  2002heaven

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MikeSalmon
Super Member
11 days ago

Torii Hunter quoted in LAT:
>“I wouldn’t sell either,” former Angels star Torii Hunter said. “The Angels are a major league baseball club, man, they’re in Orange County, and I just think a little more marketing, a couple more wins, and that franchise is going to change.”<

I agree with Hunter completely, if “a couple more wins” means 25 more wins.

Cowboy26
Legend
11 days ago
Reply to  MikeSalmon

Maybe that’s who Arte met at the Del Taco to change his mind? They certainly both know where it is. Arte may have even bought this time

2002heaven
Trusted Member
10 days ago
Reply to  MikeSalmon

LOL!!!
I don’t think Avatar or another Lord Of The Rings movie needs help with marketing.

hockey_duckie
Member
11 days ago

::: sighs :::

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend
Reply to  hockey_duckie

This. This is the right answer.

nishiogawakun
Trusted Member
11 days ago

Was MIA just waiting for news. This is not the news I wanted. So depressing.

Brent
Super Member
11 days ago

I just want some Del Taco right now to cope with all this.

Angelz4ever
Trusted Member
11 days ago

I think Arte announced that last year because he wanted to skip the Newport Christmas boat parade. Someone stole his Angels boat lights.

Yeah, that was it.

Angelz4ever
Trusted Member
11 days ago

IMHUnasked for opinion, I think Ohtani’s contract sitch made selling the team harder. I imagine no potential buyer wanted Arte to deal for them, but the ship may sail by the end of ST. I think all is being done to get Ohtani signed and then…

SchofieldsWalkoff
Member
11 days ago

So nothings actually changed & we can now officially move forward with resolving the Ohtani extension. Cool.

Angelz4ever
Trusted Member
11 days ago

Let us prey

(Yes, I know).

2002heaven
Trusted Member
10 days ago

Ohtani isn’t as good as having Pete Alonzo and Kyle Wright.
I wouldn’t have wanted Tom Brady to be the leading pass rusher if I was a Patriot’s fan.
It’s novelty dude and not about real winning.

steelgolf
Super Member
11 days ago

Sooo….. Arte is nixing the deal to trade Rengifo to tThe Dodgers because it is taking too long?

Angelz4ever
Trusted Member
11 days ago
Reply to  steelgolf

Rengifo for Carrot Top pitcher.

Cowboy26
Legend
11 days ago
Reply to  Angelz4ever

deal

Angelz4ever
Trusted Member
11 days ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

LO, we wish, May just back from TJ surgery.

MarineLayer
Super Member
11 days ago

I’m guessing Arturo got offered about a billion dollars less than he wanted, thus the renewed interest in the “unfinished business”. He should sell now before he drains even more value from his investment.

Angelz4ever
Trusted Member
11 days ago
Reply to  MarineLayer

LMAO @ “…a billion dollars less.”

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Super Member

Why do you build me up

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Super Member

This is the way it went down: there were two bidders. They offered less than $2B. Arte called Tony Reagins and asked for advice. Tony told him: go to Del Taco. Call both bidders and tell them they had 5 minutes to bring $2.5b in small bills to him. The first one there gets the franchise.

Arte made that call last Friday and no one showed up. Del Taco management let him sleep in the kitchen over weekend, but told him to get out today. Manfred picked him up a few hours ago and brought him to Carpino’s house. Kuhl wrote the press release for Arte and Manfred.

DowningDude
Legend
11 days ago

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Angelz4ever
Trusted Member
11 days ago

Actually, Arte called both and started with, “I know who you are and I have a particular set of skills…” at that point they both hung up.

GrandpaBaseball
Super Member
11 days ago

So, Arte wants to hold on to the team and one reason is the family wants to keep the team. The family has learned what a money train this is all that happened.

Arte’s kids “Dad we need more money for bigger houses, more cars, more vacations.”

Arte “If I sell the team, I have lawsuits to pay, and family sucking me dry, I’m going to keep the team and keep everyone flush, like all my Presidents and Vice Presidents and my Ohtani money one more year.”.

Real truth is he really believes that he can make this teamwork. Work to make him more money and be a top dog owner. When we got home, we turned on the news just as sports came on, lead story was about this change of Arte’s mind. I said, “Oh f**k no” GMB just laughed and said he F**ked you guyz and continued to laugh. Now I am lmao. He is just delusional that he is smart enough to bring back 3 million ticket sales a year.

Declining attendance, lawsuits and settlements, no stadium, 7 losing seasons, injured players, Ohtani unsigned, all not worth what the family wants in return.

BTW ARTE, you are hinderance. and really just the laughingstock of the sports world.

Cowboy26
Legend
11 days ago

“During this process, it became clear that we have unfinished business and feel we can make a positive impact on the future of the team and the fan experience….we realized our hearts remain with the Angels, and we are not ready to part ways with the fans, players, and our employees,”

Really Arte? if you really cared about the fans you’s get the fuck out of town. Now. 
Only Angel fans would have to endure such complete bullshit.

Angelz4ever
Trusted Member
11 days ago

Angels fan suicide watch on

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend

Meh. Arte’s been past it in some ways for a long ass time, but we’ve been over that about 60,000 times so eat a bag of dicks.

He seems to be letting PTP run baseball stuff. So that’s nice. Sure, he controls payroll, but so does every owner, he spends plenty, and I still don’t think NewOwnerz the Unicorn was certain to spend way more and take a financial hit cause “billionaire’s gonna billions”. So, OK I guess.

Honestly, how big a shit am I supposed to give about a Spanish language broadcast? This is one of a dozen things all the folks with Moreno Derangement Syndrome will never let go of, but it really has nothing to do with Walsh needing TOS surgery or Aaron Loup losing the ability to pitch.

The MiLB thing I care about, but much of the MDS screeching over starving homeless MiLB guys was over non-prospects who got extra screwed by Covid housing issues. There are rules now that address a lot of that. PTP may also be improving that stuff. We still have miles to go in that area, I hope we do it, but a new owner in Feb wasn’t changing all that either.

I’d actually be more pissed if the FO had done nothing in anticipation of a sale that didn’t happen. At this point, what ever, let’s see what the boys do.

I’d have liked to see new owners, not because they were going to be magic, but because it would just be cool to see what they do differently. But that’ll likely happen anyway. Till then, maybe Arte’s brush with selling will make him adjust in some positive ways. I have no way of knowing. But really, I’m gonna wake up tomorrow having lost out on absolutely nothing of substance and, because I’m not a sad bitch, I’m just not that upset.

ihearhowie3.0
Super Member
11 days ago

Thats a lot of words to say you mostly agree with people who wanted new owners but are, like, different and superior.

That’s cool you’re not upset about Arte and Carpino’s continued authority within a pretty broken operation but we’ve been over that about 60,000 times too.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend
Reply to  ihearhowie3.0

No. when I want to tell you I am different and superior I just come out and say it.

I am different and superior.

I’m sorry if Arte going hugely Arte on us has gapped your asshole, but those issues are all yours. And yeah, I am superior to you if this situation is truly upsetting a (I assume) grown ass man like yourself. The fact that I’m amazing has nothing to do with it, it’s more just that I’m not pathetic that’s getting it done tonight.

RexFregosi
Super Member
11 days ago

Here’s another meh for me – Arte’s original sin:

Turning from Anaheim to the Los Angeles Angels. That’s triggered many in OC and they’ve never forgotten or forgiven.

He’s made some wrong moves but he’s tried. MILB and Spanish broadcasts seem ridiculously short sighted but there’s a lot of worse owners and agree, new owners ain’t a sure thing slam dunk.

He’s going to get Shohei signed I think too.

Today is interesting but it’d be far worse to hear Shohei is signing with the Dodgers.

ihearhowie3.0
Super Member
11 days ago
Reply to  RexFregosi

I think anyone who tries to reduce Arte’s reputation as a failure to a story from last week about the Spanish broascast is not interested in talking about it in good faith.

Its not complicated. Things that produce prospects are things the Angels didn’t invest in. Personnel decisions have been very bad. Teams with this kind of track record would probably make changes to the people running it yet Carpino and Kuhl have been bulletproof.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend
Reply to  ihearhowie3.0

Carpino and Kuhl. Definite actual real problems. They suck pretty egregiously. But does it make me mad? No, cause I’m not a loser who gets angry about tangential shit that has nothing really to do with why I’m an angry person.

That’s what MMA and parenting sites are for.

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Super Member

Maybe that was the deal breaker: new ownership had to keep Thing One and Thing Two in place running the club.

RexFregosi
Super Member
11 days ago

still dont know what they do. (chamber of commerce meetings?)

i just care about baseball guys and baseball decisions – thats Arte and his GMs

SchofieldsWalkoff
Member
11 days ago
Reply to  RexFregosi

As a fan from outside OC, Disney did more damage by going from California to Anaheim. It seemed to make Mrs Autry claim that the Angels were a mid market team come true and resulted in 25+ years dumb geography jokes.

Last edited 11 days ago by SchofieldsWalkoff
Cowboy26
Legend
11 days ago

But it got the Mouse some extra revenue sharing funds for owning a franchise now identified as a “small market team”

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend
Reply to  Cowboy26

Wait, we got revenue sharing? I never knew that. How can we get in on that again?

Cowboy26
Legend
11 days ago

Move to Oakland after the A’s leave?

Marcotor
Trusted Member
10 days ago

Actually Jackie Autry said the Angels were a small market team, teetering on the edge of bankruptcy as she was not going to let Gene piss away his (soon to be her) fortune on the team.

Disney came in as a savior and bought 25% of the big loser, realizing that as managing partner with a little investment they could turn it into a cash cow. 2002, “Anaheim” (get over it) or not, Disney is infinitely better than any MLB club at separating people from their money.

Designerguy
Super Member
10 days ago
Reply to  Marcotor

In the last 1990s, when MLB was discussing contraction, Disney offered up the Angels as one of the teams to sacrifice.

tanana40
Trusted Member
10 days ago
Reply to  Designerguy

DG!

Designerguy
Super Member
10 days ago
Reply to  tanana40

T40!

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend
Reply to  RexFregosi

We all know Arte’s got plenty of shortcomings. Most of the “eh” stuff is still things I’d really rather the team didn’t schmuck and bungle and just be, for lack of a better way of putting it, cooler and smarter.

Then there are real issues that stunt my enjoyment, like a neglected farm.

Like I’ve said, Arte’s pretty much a C grade owner. He can always improve. Steinbrenner sucked for a long long time. But I don’t think anyone would mind the chance to see if we can get a new owner even if he just scores a B. Even if all he does is fix up the farm and just be less…. friggin lame I guess.

But it’s not the end of the world where we’re at now.

RexFregosi
Super Member
11 days ago

Here’s another 😫 wah wah point – this one from the beat writers

“ he won’t give as an interview . It’s been years”
😢

Again could care less- just win baby.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend
Reply to  RexFregosi

Yeah. Most owners don’t talk much. No one is gonna care if we ever get a fairly healthy season and win some games.

Besides, jeez, I kinda don’t really want Arte talking. I’d rather he just left the depths of his boomerism a mystery and eventually sell the team or croak.

55yearsangelsfan
Member
11 days ago

if there is any bright side to this, it’s that maybe Arte has actually been listening…

We have the highest payroll yet, and the signings have been good. Sure, we didn’t overspend badly on a shiny new SS, but that would have blocked Neto and Soto, and either or both of them should be ready this year or next. I would have liked to see one more starting pitcher, and a back up center fielder; but overall, I’m happier with this off-season’s acquisitions than I have been in years.

I’ve been extremely concerned about scouting, and I’ve heard we’ve signed quite a few players with our international money. (I’d love to see an article on who we’ve signed). Maybe we’re on the right track there too.

Of course, I tend to be an optimist, have been drinking ever since I saw the news, and my views could be clouded..

Fansince1971
Legend
11 days ago

An optimist is born every day.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend

The last couple years, basically since the Rendon signing/injury plague and bringing on Maddon to be a schmuck, Arte’s been less active and allowed more seemingly PTP/Braves stuff to happen.

It’s no great shakes yet to be sure, but if there is sudden improvement, and Arte’s kind of stumbled on something that works, there’s a good chance he goes with it, and thankfully he has the resources to not have to scrap and rebuild every four years. So maybe.

Mikeal1st
Trusted Member
10 days ago

You had me at drinking

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