LA Angels Tuesday News Crash: Free Baseball

Angels farmhand Connor Van Scyoc threw five scoreless innings in the Arizona Fall League on Friday afternoon. He’s the first pitcher to do that in the 2022 AFL. You can watch almost all the AFL games for free. The links are in this article. You can’t beat free baseball. Reid Detmers made MLB Pipeline’s All-Rookie Team as a first stringer. Shohei Ohtani and Mike Trout are finalists for the Hank Aaron award this year. Be sure to chip in on the fan vote. Go check out Searching For Shohei: An Interview Special on FS1.

The Cardinals signed their GM Michael Girsch to a multi-year extension. You see that Perry? Make it to the playoffs and you might get extended. According to the LA Times, Dave Roberts will be back next year as the Dodgers Manager. Billy Eppler still has leave to spend money. Jorge Moncada got a gig as the bullpen coach for the Tampa Bay Rays.

Right hander Eduard Bazardo passed through outright waivers and elected free agency.

Photo credit: Rex Fregosi

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matthiasstephan
Super Member
2 years ago

Is this the game thread too?

Eric_in_Portland
Legend
2 years ago

anyway, the Skank/Dians game is on. It looks bad already

MarineLayer
Super Member
2 years ago

Being a crap GM does not prevent an extension. Exhibit A, Rob Pelinka. He made the worst trade in Lakers history and was subsequently extended, no probs. There’s hope for you yet, Minasian.

Mikeal1st
Trusted Member
2 years ago

I’m mad that the Yankees didn’t lose last night even though they didn’t play.

Cohen has already provided a “pretty close” idea of what the 2023 budget will be, with the idea that extra spending will act as a “bridge” to keep the Mets competitive (I wouldn’t mind an owner like that too much.)

I know Dodger fans can complain (about Roberts also) but my limited impression is that he’s a decent manager if not a future HofF’er for all the games he’s won. I may be biased because of his help in beating the MFYankees, while with Boston after being down 3-0.

Last edited 2 years ago by Mikeal1st
MarineLayer
Super Member
2 years ago
Reply to  Mikeal1st

Roberts manages a bullpen without a legit closer about as well as Nevin. Good players = good manager in most cases. Our 2002 bullpen made Soth look smart.

cookmeister
Trusted Member
2 years ago
Reply to  MarineLayer

Do you really think Roberts is in charge of managing the bullpen though?

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  cookmeister

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SC_Halo
Trusted Member
2 years ago
Reply to  cookmeister

Roberts is a puppet, no doubt.

MarineLayer
Super Member
2 years ago
Reply to  cookmeister

He certainly has some input. It’s not coming 100% from the higher ups. And if he truly has no input, he should look for another job while he still has some marketability.

Jeff Joiner
Editor
Legend
2 years ago
Reply to  Mikeal1st

Robert’s pretty much does what the front office scripts for him.

To fire him would be more of an admission the front office game planning sucks than anything.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  Jeff Joiner

I have been wondering if, in the future, the FO/GM/POBO scrum will eventually become a package deal. If you ponder on it, it makes sense.

Take those poor A’ss as an example. So you have BillaBean at the helm. You have Forst doing a good job as well. You have all their scouting guys and analytics nerds. You HAD Bob Melvin and his coaches. You have all the MiLB coaching that these guys hired.

It’s all one big pile that will be mostly turned over if a new POBO is hired by the owner.

But what if POBO/GMs just get more blatant about it? What if an owner basically signs the whole baseball ops burrito for 5 years? So Beane gets sick of Oakland’s crap (in an alternate universe) in 2014. His and all his guys contracts are all up at the same time. That whole pile of baseball management becomes a free agent. An owner is basically told “You hire Billy Beane, and Dave Forst, Bob Melvin, and all their supporting characters come to your building, go out to your farm teams, etc and run their collective system. An owner basically signs “Billy Beane inc” as his front office. The same could be said for Freidman and Roberts.

The manager is the field/player facing extension of the whole FO system. An owner hires the whole thing. If you want things to run the way the Indians or Rays or Astros run then you hire that POBO. Or you hire away the GM and Vice President of Vice Player Vices and Spices from the Astros knowing he’s gonna bring along the guys who will help him implement the “Astros system” when he is a “free agent”…. so we’d get an off season watch for new regarding the POBO of the Orioles and his GM etc being out of contract and hire able for the next season…. WILL THE CUBS MAKE THE MOVE!?!?

We’re really close to things working this way now and I bet that at some point successful POBOGMVPQRTs will have “their managers” and “their MiLB managers” and “their scouts” that all come together to a team.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  Mikeal1st

I’m still waiting for a look at how long Cohen’s money bridge will stretch and what the Mets payroll will be when it ends. CtPG twat may say something along the lines of “At least Cohen bla durr furr a coupler yars. Champinonshit! I profar dat!” but this is the same idiot who was chin rubbing about overspending on splashy stars while draft picks leak out of the system back in 2010 and he’s just forgotten all those hot thoughts he had back then.

At some point Cohen’s gonna want some money to come back into his pocket.

RexFregosi
Super Member
2 years ago

Cohen is worth $17B
Ballmer is worth $75B

I vote we get Ballmer for an owner buy a couple rings

Senator_John_Blutarsky
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From ESPN

TOKYO — Japanese two-way superstar Shohei Ohtani arrived home on Tuesday and was critical of his Los Angeles Angels team missing the Major League Baseball playoffs again.
In an interview at Tokyo’s Haneda Airport, he said it was “a good season for me personally.” Not so good for the Angels, though.

Without solid support for former AL MVPs Ohtani and Mike Trout, the Angels suffered a seventh consecutive losing season, and missed the playoffs for an eighth consecutive year.

“I have to say that August and September in particular felt longer to me than last year,” Ohtani said, speaking in Japanese. “We were not able to play as many good games as we would like — including 14 consecutive losses. So I have a rather negative impression of this season.”


The Angels finished 73-89 and were 33 games behind the Houston Astros in the American League West.

The Angels last made the playoffs in 2014. Ohtani joined in 2018, leaving one of baseball’s biggest stars on the sidelines for the game’s biggest stage.
Ohtani was 15-9 with a 2.33 ERA as a pitcher. As a batter he hit 34 home runs, had 95 RBIs and hit .273.

He was asked about the possibility of being the American League MVP again.
“I’m just happy to be considered as a candidate,” he said.

GrandpaBaseball
Legend
2 years ago

He’s done no doubt. I sure will miss him and the fun he has out on the field. But I also believe he is hands down the best pitcher in the league and wish we had a five-man rotation, he’d win 20 games every year.

I hope we bring back a good haul for him, but just the same the being an Angels fan still is a hard way to go. When Trouty re-signed I was ecstatic, now I feel bad for him that he can’t be playing back east and on the Phillies’s or Yankees. Wishing that the players I either like or love played on teams that are winners sure does show just how bad this team is run. Moreno just can’t sell fast of enough for me.

MarineLayer
Super Member
2 years ago

Great comment. I agree completely.

Eric_in_Portland
Legend
2 years ago
Reply to  MarineLayer

Yes. It was difficult for us, too. It went on forever! (or so it seemed)

Besides some individual performances (Shohei 15 wins, 34 HRs, Trout 40 HRs, Sandy, young Soto, young O’Hoppe) the excitement centered around our draft slot and would we ever see the shufflebot again.

Cowboy26
Legend
2 years ago

Last Season was Considered Negative? No Shit.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend

Boo f***in hoo.

Trout_is_my_Bestie
Member
2 years ago

I must admit, my opinion of Ohtani has soured a bit with all these negative comments he has of the team.

You would think that someone with these comments (i.e. someone who is SOOO TIRED of carrying the team) has actually carried the team for many years and perhaps done so for low pay.

In actuality that is not the case. I happen to remember that he only started playing in 2018 and gave us a GLIMPSE of how good he could be before getting injured. The team then had to endure the 2019 and 2020 seasons of him either being merely good to bad. Suddenly, he becomes Superman for the past two seasons and now feels like he’s getting such a raw deal. The world is so unfair that he has to do so much!

Maybe he has also forgotten that the Angels were the only team willing to sign him with a promise of letting him be a two-way player. Maybe he wishes he would have signed with the Dodgers even though they would not have allowed him the platform to become the mega star that he is now. Smells a bit like selective memory to me.

Look, if Mike Trout suddenly came out and complained of the team I would totally understand. After all, he has sacrificed many more years with the team. He deserves all of our sympathy for sure, but it feels a bit early for Shohei to feel this way.

To sum it up all I have to say is simple: Shohei we love you! Please don’t leave.

admkir
Trusted Member
2 years ago

He obviously read Joe’s book and is now writing the sequel

Trout_is_my_Bestie
Member
2 years ago
Reply to  admkir

I know he is working on improving his English, but someone should definitely provide him better reading material!

Trout_is_my_Bestie
Member
2 years ago
Reply to  admkir

The longer I think about his behavior, the more I have a suspicion that he doesn’t have full confidence that he can maintain this level of play in the long term. Why else would he be so disappointed after only carrying the team for two years?

He probably realizes that he’s already dealt with injuries in the past and will soon be on the other side of 30. So what are the chances of his two-way stardom being his default state?

Perhaps the team should take the hint and trade him after all.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend

Nah. I think it’s a combination of the language barrier and CtPG’s sandy vagina cause Arte is still alive so everything is shit boo koo ca boo hoo.

I think if he were a native speaker and could turn a phrase he would have basically said…

“Sure, I had a solid season, but what does that matter? We had a tough year as a team, that 14 game losing streak really took it out of us and then we had a long struggle the rest of the year. It doesn’t matter how good your stats are, if the team is having a bad year it’s not much fun.”

Duh. Of course. This is pretty much what every MVP contender on a shit team says… I think it just gets translated as stiffer and more blunt. Also, a lot of the real men of CtPG are hypersensitive to anything they can latch onto to amp up their feels about being Arte’s victim of abuse.

It’s OK folks. If he wants to stay, and we want to pay him, he’ll stay. The situation is the same now as it was in June… and June of 2019…..

Last edited 2 years ago by gitchogritchoffmypettis
2GA2Join
Super Member
2 years ago

I agree with you.
I saw the post about this same quote over on Reddit, and most of the comments I saw there were frustration about how the media is trying to spin Ohtani’s comments to create clickbait and excitement… that he dissed his team and can’t wait to be a Yankee. However the commenters interpret Ohtani’s statements much how gitch does (and so do I).
Seems like many on this page are singing the same tune as the media.

Marcotor
Trusted Member
2 years ago

I wonder why some suddenly have their shorts in a knot after Ohtani merely said what has been posted here over… and over… and over… and over

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend
Reply to  Marcotor

Been hurt before. Mad. Sad. Sad because mad. Arte > Hitler. I’m a loser, he’s to blame. PTSD. Insecurity. Mad Sad. Sad Mad. Make me feel sure I’m a champion or else I’ll do nothing. Sad Mad Sad. Been hurt before. Mad. Sad. Sad because mad. Arte > Hitler. I’m a loser, he’s to blame. PTSD. Insecurity. Mad Sad. Sad Mad. Make me feel sure I’m a champion or else I’ll do nothing. Sad Mad Sad. Been hurt before. Mad. Sad. Sad because mad. Arte > Hitler. I’m a loser, he’s to blame. PTSD. Insecurity. Mad Sad. Sad Mad. Make me feel sure I’m a champion or else I’ll do nothing. Sad Mad Sad.Been hurt before. Mad. Sad. Sad because mad. Arte > Hitler. I’m a loser, he’s to blame. PTSD. Insecurity. Mad Sad. Sad Mad. Make me feel sure I’m a champion or else I’ll do nothing. Sad Mad Sad. Been hurt before. Mad. Sad. Sad because mad. Arte > Hitler. I’m a loser, he’s to blame. PTSD. Insecurity. Mad Sad. Sad Mad. Make me feel sure I’m a champion or else I’ll do nothing. Sad Mad Sad. Been hurt before. Mad. Sad. Sad because mad. Arte > Hitler. I’m a loser, he’s to blame. PTSD. Insecurity. Mad Sad. Sad Mad. Make me feel sure I’m a champion or else I’ll do nothing. Sad Mad Sad. Been hurt before. Mad. Sad. Sad because mad. Arte > Hitler. I’m a loser, he’s to blame. PTSD. Insecurity. Mad Sad. Sad Mad. Make me feel sure I’m a champion or else I’ll do nothing. Sad Mad Sad.

MarineLayer
Super Member
2 years ago

Or we could thank him for indicating he plans to sign somewhere else and give us a chance to get something before he leaves.

WallyChuckChili
Legend
2 years ago

Wrong!

Michael Girsch was signed to a multi year extension for bringing home Cardinals Great Albert Pujols. Having the insight that Pujols would preform surrounded by a winning culture was key to the extension. Albert hitting 700 in a Cardinals Uniform sealed the deal for him.

MarineLayer
Super Member
2 years ago

It’s also the amount he was paid.