Angels Trade Proposals I Like

As the August 2nd trade deadline draws near, fans from across the interwebz are coming up with trade ideas. I obviously like perusing the trade values simulator so I figured I’d share some ideas that aren’t mine but that I do like. Call it a food for thought exercise.

There are a ton of proposals linking the Angels and Cardinals, which makes sense as the Cards have tons of MLB ready talent and an ensuing 40 man roster crunch and playoff aspirations.

The Angels ship out a few months of Thor but receive a much needed infielder in Brendan Donovan. The left handed hitter has six years of club control and is an on base machine. DeJong is toast at the plate but carries a solid glove and is there because his $9.1 million salary next year makes swap cash neutral. DeJong becomes expensive bench depth but that’s more than offset by our starting second baseman making minimum wage.

This one is far more aggressive but it nets the Angels multiple MLB ready pieces and provides significant salary relief. Liberatore is only 22 and should develop into a middle of the order arm. Gorman, also 22, is an absolute stud who can play second or third. Burleson is a decent bat who can play a corner outfield spot or first base and Yepez is similar to Burleson but with a lower OBP and more pop.

A slight variation on this trade that I also like:

Jordan Walker is a beast. I’d take him over the salary relief of Iggy and the extra prospect. He’s a third base only guy and two years away from MLB, though. This trade would signal a true rebuild.

Just because it won’t happen doesn’t mean I can’t like it. Mid rotation arm in Gore, stud second baseman in Cronenworth, needed catching help with Campusano, and whatever we get from Snell is a bonus.

See above about not happening. This nets us a new infield basically. Torres has put up 3 WAR already this season, Volpe is the hottest prospect in the MFY system. Cortes is a mid rotation type arm, Dominguez is a 19 year old center field prospect and Matt Carpenter is a great rotational piece who is a free agent in a few months and really serves no purpose here. Yanks should just keep him.

Spencer Steer is a near MLB ready infielder who can play all over the dirt and sports hefty OBP in the minors. He’s also a Long Beach State alum, which makes the board happy. Wallner can play all three outfield positions and sports an impressive .272/.383/.513 line across 3 minor league seasons. I’ve already speculated about snagging Woods Richardson, who is quality when healthy. This right here is acting like a big market club and buying some talent. I’m all over this.

Sometimes you have to take a chance. Biggio was a highly rated prospect, he’s 27 so he’s in his prime, and his down year in 2023 still has him sporting a 108 OPS+. At worst, he’s a substantial bench upgrade and depth over what we have. I’d make this trade in a heartbeat.

This would be selling high on Ward and likely buying low on Abrams. However, I think a corner outfielder is easier to acquire than a starting shortstop. I think Abrams is a starting shortstop. He’s yet to prove it at the MLB level, but he’s only 22 and is just getting his first taste. We could give him the consistent playing time he needs this year and pencil him in for the next 5 years.

Vasquez is in AA and is putting up solid numbers thanks to his 60 grade curveball. His fastball is mediocre but works better than it should thanks to hitters needing to be aware of the hammer. He needs to develop control to stick in the rotation, but if he does he’s a mid to back end pitcher.

Another simple swap. Thor for a sweet swinging shortstop who likely moves to second or third as he fills in. Doncon provides some much needed position player upside to the system.

Angels shed Iggy’s $16 million per year for the next three years and add a nice back end of the rotation arm while doing so. I’d be all for this. Thor returns home and heads to the post season, making for a great story line. I’d be shocked if NY would do this, but if they would I’d jump.

I’ll keep looking around and posting some ideas. Do you particularly like any of these? Do you hate any? Think I should put the sim down a bit, ha ha?

Let me know below.

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GrandpaBaseball
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2 months ago

Biggio can’t hit. We have Fletcher. Why so many second baseman? We need a SS.

Cowboy26
Legend
2 months ago

*WHO CAN HIT.

Biggiswrth
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2 months ago

With the Braves now needing an outfielder, Ward makes a lot of sense with them. Is Swanson available and/or worth it?

Last edited 2 months ago by Biggiswrth
GonFishin
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2 months ago
Reply to  Biggiswrth

He is definitely not available, nor a realistic return for Ward. He would be a good FA target, however.

GrandpaBaseball
Super Member
2 months ago
Reply to  GonFishin

He’s available as they have a stud SS coming up and in a possible walk year.

GonFishin
Trusted Member
2 months ago

They are playoff team this year most likely. They aren’t going to damage their chances trading the established player with a 4.0 WAR for an up and comer. If he’s available like you claim, cite your sources.

Last edited 2 months ago by GonFishin
Cowboy26
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2 months ago
Reply to  GonFishin

Trea Turner

GonFishin
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2 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Not going to happen unless Arte goes above the luxury tax.

FungoAle
Super Member
2 months ago

I don’t like any of those Ohtani trades.

Go for Biggio, buy low. Simple trade will help.

Biggiswrth
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2 months ago
Reply to  FungoAle

I think Biggio makes sense. Also remember we get Fletch back soon too

Cowboy26
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2 months ago
Reply to  Biggiswrth

Thursday

frosse
Newbie
2 months ago

Thanks for all the ideas. I like the Biggio trade idea with Toronto. I also like the Ward for Abrams idea. Can they throw in JJ Abrams and have him re-vamp the Angels broadcasts. Maybe have a monster eat Matty V mid-broadcast?

h27kim
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2 months ago
Reply to  frosse

Or, somehow show that the 2022 season was in an alternate universe and there’s another universe where all these things didn’t happen, or something.

ihearhowie3.0
Super Member
2 months ago

I like a lot of these too.

Given the state of the team and Ohtani’s sky high value right now, it wouldn’t be the worst thing in the world to just take a massive swing like moving Ohtani, Ward, Thor and Iggy.

Padres do seem like a good fit for deals.

Oski_Bear
Member
2 months ago

I don’t get these simulators. Everyone is posting them. But, there are other factors to consider. For example, if someone gets Ohtani and he is valued as per existing contract – this doesn’t account for the increased likelihood that the receiving team may be able to extend him after signing, right? If someone had a year to re-sign him and were a contender, he’s have a lot more value than his current contract alone.

Cowboy26
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2 months ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

Last year the Dodgers were 106-56 and produced 65+WAR ( according to baseball reference) So any total team payroll expense below $585 million was a bargain?

Got it.

Jayman28
Trusted Member
2 months ago

I’m all for giving Ohtani an opportunity to play for a playoff contending team. Arte obviously doesn’t consider this team one.

Are we going to do year 3 of “Trout and Rendon will be healthy next season and the roster will be in better shape and hopefully Arte raises payroll”.

Let’s be real, Arte doesn’t intend to build a wining team, he may overpay for another free agent and give the fans some red meat like usual, but that’s it.

Tbh, I think Gritch is right, maybe if we rename the team to the Riverside Meth Savages, maybe they will play better. You only love once.

UtahAlumnus
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2 months ago

Don’t trade Babe Ruth. We’ll regret it forever.

Cowboy26
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2 months ago
Reply to  UtahAlumnus

Dude He’s dead so is his roommate, no 50.

GonFishin
Trusted Member
2 months ago

Personally, I like the Thor to the Cardinals deals. Don’t want to trade Ohtani under any circumstance before at least exploring an extension. That said if we had to move him, I like the Yankees package the most.

Think we get absolutely fleeced in every proposal involving Ohtani and the Cards. I don’t want to hear about “total value” of prospects that haven’t even played yet. The person who made the Iglesias, Thor, and Ohtani to the Cards package should be embarrassed. A struggling, but proven closer locked up long term, rental but quality SP, and an MVP candidate for 4 players/prospects? How about…no.

I’d also argue that if the Angels retain a majority of the money on Iglesias’s contract, he becomes a positive asset and to include him just to dump is the definition of short-sided and a goldfish mindset. But then again, this is the Angels so I wouldn’t be surprised. Fun article, fine with most of these that don’t involve Shohei.

DMAGZ13
Trusted Member
2 months ago

I love most of all these, but this seems like a case of Syndergaard being over valued by us. I’d trade him for any of those proposals but I just don’t see it.

Rev Halofan
Editor
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2 months ago

That trade for Biggio is inspired!

Cowboy26
Legend
2 months ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

Wrong MLB offspring from the Blue Jays

nishiogawakun
Trusted Member
2 months ago

I really like that Ward for Abrams trade!

2GA2Join
Trusted Member
2 months ago
Reply to  nishiogawakun

Indeed. Selling high and buying low is what we need to do to.

Cowboy26
Legend
2 months ago

Thats more like it Jeff. Great Ideas!

Eric_in_Portland
Legend
2 months ago

it’d be nice if Thor pulls a Chapman, going to Team X and then re-signing with us for next year. At a lower rate which would be appropriate for his numbers. He loves being an Angel. If we trade him for Donovan and then end up with both I’d be happy.

Fansince1971
Legend
2 months ago

I do like and appreciate your analysis Jeff but I am becoming more convinced that the trade algorithm is very flawed so that any analysis based on it is also, unfortunately, flawed.

Cowboy26
Legend
2 months ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

The Trade Algorithm doesn’t adjust for TrAdition?

benjiface
Trusted Member
2 months ago

Iglesias -10.7!! Yikes

2GA2Join
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2 months ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

What a mess. I remember back when everyone was clamoring that we need to keep Iggy, that we really need a solid bullpen and not blow games. So Perry signed the guy, and now he’s -10.7.

Eric_in_Portland
Legend
2 months ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

I would expect all three to pitch better if they were elsewhere. Seriously. Some pitching coach would make one simple suggestion and they’d be cured.

Biggiswrth
Trusted Member
2 months ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

Yah I don’t blame Perry for this year.The beggining of this year we were top 5 in all of baseball. Shit just hit the fan and trAdidtion showed up. I believe Perry can build a winner, but to make it into postseason, a lot has to go right.

benjiface
Trusted Member
2 months ago

Love these articles Jeff! Realistic and a fun read