LA Angels Wednesday News Crash: Ohtani Rule(s)

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Angels News

The Angels won yesterday in Spring Training 7-4. Walsh and Adell hit home runs back to back in the Angels win over the Rockies.

New Rules for MLB. The most important is the “Ohtani Rule“. Basically, Starting Pitchers who hit in the lineup can stay iu as DH even after they get pulled off the mound.

Ohtani Rule(s)!

It is Arbitration time, and the Angels have avoided it with their remaining players. Stassi gets paid, as did Mayers and Wade.

Angels lose Kyle Tucker to the Red Sox on waivers. That’s rough.

The Top 10 Relivers in Baseball have been revealed. 7th for D-Cell?! Outrageous!

7th for D-Cell

Around Baseball

More rule changes as mentioned above, it will be a 28 man roster for all of April. Also, the Manfred runner is back, but no more 7 inning doubleheaders.

America’s Pastime is not acting in the best faith, so MLB’s antitrust status may be stripped. So, new league in the next decade, yay or nay?

Reminder, no matter how bad Arte Moreno is, it can always be worse.

That is pathetic

It seems that teams are avoiding arbitration and making deals with players, with Trea Turner getting the most so far.

The Arb process will be rather tense with some teams, the Yankees and Judge are very far apart for one.

Most MLB players by college. SoCal is pretty well repped.

Why did the players ask for the collective bargaining tax threshold to go up while owners did not? This may best illustrate that.

Angels and Padres ARE the same team!

Anything I missed? Post below for upvotes.

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RexFregosi
Super Member
2 years ago

Thor – innings pitched

2020-2021: 2
Yesterday: 3

Really happy for him – super chill dude

Cowboy26
Legend
2 years ago
Reply to  RexFregosi

What’s his inning limit this year ? 5?

Designerguy
Super Member
2 years ago

OT: I always tell my wife I do it cuz it’s a preventive health issue. Maybe now she’ll believe me. If something wants out of your body, let it out.

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/fart-attack-brazilian-singer-hospitalized-145739750.html

steelgolf
Super Member
2 years ago
Reply to  Designerguy

Doesn’t everyone get their best medical advice from Tik Tok?

Designerguy
Super Member
2 years ago
Reply to  steelgolf

That’s Dr Tik Tok to you!

Harumph

Twebur
Legend
2 years ago
Reply to  Designerguy

It’s called an “Emergency pressure release valve”.

Cowboy26
Legend
2 years ago
Reply to  Twebur

AKA baseball

fishfarm
Trusted Member
2 years ago

Denny classifying elite pitchers as “Dudes” is driving me crazy.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend
Reply to  fishfarm

Yeah. That’s so cute and relatable I want to punch myself in the face.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend

Yes, MSM. Who wouldn’t want Emmanuel Clase, Colin McHugh, Devin Williams and Ryan Pressly instead of Raisel Iglesias? I mean, Raisel’s only had one good year, those other guys have been lights out closers for decades.

MarineLayer
Super Member
2 years ago

There an interview of Rendon on ESPN criticizing Angels fans (like yours truly) who say he hasn’t earned the first two years of his contract. He argues that his performance for another team justifies his contract. Remind you of anyone else who just finished a 10 year deal? I think he should shut his mouth and show something on the field. I’ll be watching.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend
Reply to  MarineLayer

That wasn’t really what I got from that interview…. but I also don’t have to wear larger pants to accommodate my constant huge rage boner for the guy. I mean, he basically said “I’ve been really good before, I got hurt, I am better, I’ll be good again now.” What was he supposed to say?

Cowboy26
Legend
2 years ago

Some people here are more gloomy than others .

2pints
Trusted Member
2 years ago
Reply to  MarineLayer

“I’ll be watching”  😂 

2002heaven
Trusted Member
2 years ago
Reply to  2pints

Same with the LF who got a $21M ayeer deal from the last GM. Kan’t hit or catch anymore (Arthur/Guillermo?). It’s bad player personnel moves like thiss that can cripple a teem in ehny sporht for 5-7 yeerz……….Good Gawd!!!
 💩  💩  💩  😢  😠  👈 

2pints
Trusted Member
2 years ago
Reply to  2002heaven

Shit, was hoping you followed your obsession Packy to the Cards.

MarineLayer
Super Member
2 years ago

Having Vasergian is in essence like not having your own announcer. He knows nothing more than an average Angels fan and brings nothing to he table. I hate hearing him talk about everything other than the team

2002heaven
Trusted Member
2 years ago
Reply to  MarineLayer

Then he fits right in!! 💪  💪  👈 
Maybe the owner figured out that Orange County is a curse (It’s a playground for wealthy people who aren’t interested in competing and fighting anymore……..Newport Beach, Huntington Beach, Dana Point). Keep in mind that the late Tommy Lasorda lived in OC.

Fleckstein
Trusted Member
2 years ago
Reply to  2002heaven

Now I’m sure you are just trolling’, 2002. I know for a fact Tommy was a fighter: I watched him kick the Phanatic’s ass. The OC is clearly not a bunch of lovers, so they must then be a bunch of fighters 🙈🙉🙊

2002heaven
Trusted Member
2 years ago
Reply to  Fleckstein

Didn’t mean fighting literally, just mostly figuratively as a synonym to being competitive, instead of just attracting 3M souls every year. McCovey’s Cove is literally right next to the bay and yet those ultra smart and ultra competitive people (Stanford, Berkeley, Santa Clara) don’t let nice expensive living stop them. The Cheap A’s somehow made the playoffs in the last 5 yrs.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  2002heaven

Wait. I think I’ve got it. At first I was afraid you were a 10 year old with a dad who beats him. Then I was afraid you’re autistic and when you comment it’s autism speaking…. and maybe you also have a dad who beats you…. and looks like either Arte or Billy Eppler.

But I’ve come to realize you just poop thoughts out, like;

  • We did not draft Max Meyer in the third round.
  • People from The Valley are losers.
  • The Karate Kid was from the valley.
  • I’ve seen people use faux alliteration to convey they are expressing the thoughts a stupid person.
  • I don’t understand how that works. I will make a point to only myself by misspelling some words on purpose.
  • I wonder if Pete Alonso wants to share a plate of spaghetti with me?
  • The moon. It’s not really cheese but God eats it anyway every month.
  • Noah Syndergaard was hurt last year.
  • Paula Abdul is also from the Valley. Arte can’t dance.
  • Why do all my kids look like Billy Eppler? I hate that.
  • Bob Nutting…. some something.
  • Emoji
  • Emoji
  • Emoji
  • and….
  • Emoji

Are you a Juggalo? That’s it isn’t it? Years of huffing glue and snorting lines of toilet cleaner and cold meds while listening to Insane Clown Posse has made you into a blipper so you just kind of get on a train of thought and then list stuff? Are you from Barstow? I’ve totally met guys like you. We should go camping.

“You wanted it, you got it, Toyota….”?

red floyd
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2 years ago

People from The Valley are losers.

Them’s fightin’ words!

2002heaven
Trusted Member
2 years ago

LOL!!!
BTW the Valley duzent have a team playing there as opposed to the OC (Anjels & Duccs). JUST to name a few personalities who’ve said that about the OC (Keeth Olbermen, Vic the brick jacobbs, Petros Paapadaykis, Colin Cowheard) If a better aand diferent owner bought the Angels and moved them to Ventura or somewhere in LA CO I would support them. We have a 3rd world level farm system on purpose and a oligarck who likes it.
 💩  💩  💩  😠  😡  😢  💪  💪 

red floyd
Legend
2 years ago
Reply to  2002heaven

And your point is?

2002heaven
Trusted Member
2 years ago
Reply to  red floyd

Whut iz yor poynt?
HATER HATER HATER……I SEE A HATER!!

Eric_in_Portland
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2 years ago
Reply to  Twebur

I need my CtPG lexicon to untangle this message

Eric_in_Portland
Legend
2 years ago

ah…ok. Didn’t know but now I do.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend
Reply to  Twebur

AWWW! F***IN ARTE! THIS ORG IS A JOKE! He will probably replace this yuppie beer with some other cheaper yuppie beer that votes for Trump!

Twebur
Legend
2 years ago

Cheap Ar’ton Chigurh..probably start making the grilled cheese with Velveeta
instead of Smoked Gouda.

RexFregosi
Super Member
2 years ago

Lineup
Looks like Maitan and Paris will play today way up in Peoria – a good look at them is ahead.

Rengifo, then Velazquez is interesting too.

GrandpaBaseball
Legend
2 years ago

This is a very fast team this year with Adell, Marsh, Fletch, Wade, and Rengifo if he makes the team. Stassi still fast for a catcher, Trout while slower by half step is still fast, so that’s my story and I’m sticking to it. Now who will lead our boys in SB? I think Marsh could steal 30, Fletch 25, and Trout 20, Wade 15, bases this season. That will keep pitchers paying attention and give the hitters the chance to hit the pitcher’s mistakes. That along with hitting for power for doubles and triples will increase our runs scored. Going first to third, scoring from first and second will increase also. Go-Go Angels.

h27kim
Trusted Member
2 years ago

And Ohtani, too, among the speedsters on the team.

ScoopleDoople
Trusted Member
2 years ago
Reply to  h27kim

There is the new guy that bunted for a hit yesterday that the announcers were talking about his speed. Duffy? I can’t remember his name. argh it was Tyler Wade who got the bunt hit yesterday but that was not who I was trying to remember who they were saying how fast he was. Sorry, old guy moment…

Last edited 2 years ago by ScoopleDoople
RexFregosi
Super Member
2 years ago
Reply to  ScoopleDoople

Wade i believe

JackFrost
Super Member
2 years ago
Reply to  h27kim

Ohtani is in fact probably faster than Trout, especially after Mike’s calf injury etc.

fishfarm
Trusted Member
2 years ago
Reply to  JackFrost

One reason why I think SB’s are not going to be his goal this year

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend
Reply to  fishfarm

Have stolen bases been anyone’s goal since 1996? It blows the mind that their used to be guys who stole 100+ bases in the 80s.

RexFregosi
Super Member
2 years ago

Andrew Velazquez is fast too.

LanaBanana
Super Member
2 years ago

“[Angels]TV broadcasters will travel only occasionally, staying mostly at home to accommodate play-by-play man Matt Vasgersian, who hopes to broadcast around 80-100 games or “as many as I can humanly do.” Most will be done out of a Secaucus, N.J., studio.” 😡

https://theathletic.com/3203411/2022/03/22/angels-radio-broadcasters-wont-travel-in-2022-plans-for-matt-vasgersian-in-flux-as-he-embraces-remote-tv-broadcasts/?source=freedailyemail&campaign=601983

RexFregosi
Super Member
2 years ago
Reply to  LanaBanana

complete malarkey

FungoAle
Super Member
2 years ago
Reply to  LanaBanana

Painful. Watching F1 racing this last weekend, if they can call the race from Bahrain, Matt V. has zero excuse.

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Legend
Reply to  LanaBanana

Cheap, stupid Arte.

This is one of the dumbest things I’ve heard today……but the day is young.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend

Actually, isn’t this stupid spending Arte? What part of any of this is a cost saving measure? Matty V is expensive, I’m sure. And he has other jobs, so he’s not gonna travel. So what was the “not cheap” scenario you were envisioning?

I just wish we didn’t have Matty V at all… which would be cheaper.

ihearhowie3.0
Super Member
2 years ago

Terry Smith is not expensive and is not traveling either.

And Gubi is tethered to remote work with Vasgersian or an amateur in O’Neil.

They’ve had 2 years to sort this out and its still a mess. If its not Arte, then blame Carpino (who is an un-fireable extension of Arte)

LanaBanana
Super Member
2 years ago
Reply to  ihearhowie3.0

i believe the reason Terry Smith is not traveling is because it would be a slap in the face to the other TV announcers if Terry got to travel and they did not. It all about Matty V.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend
Reply to  LanaBanana

Eh. I just don’t think a 50+ year old man is sad about getting paid the same money to stay home instead of travel 6 months a year.

I just don’t like Matty V on the broadcast because he seems to have not even wikipedia’d the Angels ever or Bref’d their roster. But in the end none of this is that big a deal.

LanaBanana
Super Member
2 years ago

I don’t like him, either. At all.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend
Reply to  LanaBanana

I just wish they’d settle on “their guy” and let him develop. Hell, let it be O’Neill. Matty V is never gonna be all Angels. They should just hire a main guy and have him do all the games so everyone here can bitch about him until they don’t anymore. The “different guy every other game” thing is lame.

I don’t give two shits if the guy is in Seattle, New Jersey or a seat in the Big A booth.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend
Reply to  ihearhowie3.0

What I’m saying is, if Arte wanted to go cheap he wouldn’t have hired Matty V in the first place. But, because Matty V is tethered to one spot, he can’t travel. There isn’t really any expense involved with sending a guy like Terry on the same plane as the players to use a facility in a visitors stadium. I don’t think cost is a factor here at all and can’t see WTF being cheap has to do with any of it.

I also don’t see the point in sending Terry Smith on road trips but not Matty V or the Gubi/Oniel crew. It looks like neither do the Angels. And really, probably neither do Smith, Gubi or O’neil.

See, you or I may not like this, but I’m not sure any of the actual people involved are all that upset about it.

2002heaven
Trusted Member
2 years ago

Arty the Oligarch would hire me if I payed him a bilyun dollarz.
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2002heaven
Trusted Member
2 years ago

Now broadcasting teams matter for us unbeeleevuhbol. (Preeveesly catchers, bullpens, field manager……..GOOD GAWD!!!)
How about we just win first beefor wee start complayning about the seat color on a car that’s broken down in the middle of Death Valley during the summer. Honestly if we won the World Series I could care less if Pauley Shore was part of our broadcast team.
 😠  💪 

2002heaven
Trusted Member
2 years ago
Reply to  ihearhowie3.0

John Carpino is Arte’s version of Sergey Lavrov, a puppet yes man extraordinaire.

Last edited 2 years ago by 2002heaven
gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend
Reply to  2002heaven

No. Lavrov is a smart, successful man who has survived and thrived through three dangerous political regimes and speaks 5 languages.

John Carpino has succeeded at knowing Arte Moreno and being a turd that is too big to flush down a toilet.

BruinsAngelsKings
Trusted Member
2 years ago
Reply to  LanaBanana

They need to ditch Matt V and just stick with Patrick and Gubi!

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend

Yup.

steelgolf
Super Member
2 years ago
Reply to  LanaBanana

BOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!! If Vasgersian is going to broadcast from New Jersey, then he should be doing Mets games.

ihearhowie3.0
Super Member
2 years ago
Reply to  LanaBanana

This is one of those things that just proves how dysfunctional, poorly planned and organized this “organization” is.

They’ve had PLENTY of time to figure this out since Rojas left and it still feels like they’re putting band-aids on everything.

Inexcusable. Sell the damn team or get real executives.

admkir
Trusted Member
2 years ago
Reply to  LanaBanana

I remember the excitement last year with the addition of Matty V, man did that honeymoon finish early. I personally can’t wait for his contract to end or he goes the way of Sutton

Marshallx89
Member
2 years ago
Reply to  LanaBanana

Still better than Sutton last year. That was rough.

matthiasstephan
Super Member
2 years ago

Misread the line on losing Kyle Tucker(Tyler) – thinking that the Astros had put Kyle Tucker on waivers and we wouldn’t have him in the division any longer (wishful thinking, I know).

RexFregosi
Super Member
2 years ago

Nice college graphic.

As for WAR, ESPN did a ranking about two years ago, and USC was just ahead of ASU, but then Mike Leake went out and had a good season.

USC and Texas have a lot of players, but ASU is now the NCAA MLB WAR Leader.

TheOrangeCurtain
Trusted Member
2 years ago

The “Ohtani” rule is huuuuge! Really benefits the Angels only for now. But it also allows for future two-way players. Or what if they decide to let Lorenzen DH during his start? Doesn’t preclude them from getting him a couple ABs early, save your bench and PH with another position player later who would then take over the DH slot for the remainder of the game.

RexFregosi
Super Member
2 years ago

May not be the most popular opinion but i really like Patrick O’Neill as an announcer as he brings energy and fun (Victor had a little too much snark for me). I see him year around on Kings broadcast too and the guy always lifts me up. He’s been around this week and just a great guy. This crew lost Mota, and Bubbles before that so it could use the infusion.

Denny Hocking too is fine – very knowledgable, relatable and good stories – he is a bit raw though.

Erica Weston is the new sideline reporter – she’s professional and polished. Feel bad for her in a way because replacing Alex is impossible and she will have to start building relationships. Hopefully she’ll start relaxing and having fun.

steelgolf
Super Member
2 years ago
Reply to  RexFregosi

I too like Patrick O’Neill and think his chemistry with Gubi works really well.

GrandpaBaseball
Legend
2 years ago
Reply to  RexFregosi

Patrick and Gubi are very good together but, Hocking too high pitched and rushed and is in each broadcast just to prove himself.

Erica Weston will either progress as the season progresses or not. Alex showed personality and had us all in the palm of her hand and was loved by all, a tough act to follow and I am on Erica’s side and think she will fit in very soon.

Patrick was a great choice for PxP and just seems to improve every game.

With Mota gone, Kent French will pick up the slack and will continue to excel as the “Sideline Reporter” and be a big part of the team.

I would also like to see more of Tim Salmon and Garrett Anderson as they are both professional while also being a huge part of Angels legacy.

The telecast would just be boring without Gubi, he is the best “Color” announcer I have ever seen or heard. Funny yeah but more than that he knows the game and standouts with his knowledge of pitching.

tommyshalo
Trusted Member
2 years ago
Reply to  RexFregosi

And his love for the team is something I missed when Vasgersian and Waltz were calling.

ScoopleDoople
Trusted Member
2 years ago
Reply to  tommyshalo

Many times in the middle of games I hear Gubi pointing out things about the pitcher, or batter, that our coaches are not seeming to see. He could probably be a pitching coach if he ever wanted to. I imagine TV pays more!

red floyd
Legend
2 years ago
Reply to  ScoopleDoople

I’ve thought the same.

FungoAle
Super Member
2 years ago
Reply to  ScoopleDoople

Yeah, get him into the dugout and out of the booth, win/win

RexFregosi
Super Member
2 years ago
Reply to  tommyshalo

i love hearing him say his pops is asking him for Angels gear all the time.

Patrick growing up in So Cal is like us – a HUGE plus.

Last edited 2 years ago by RexFregosi
Cowboy26
Legend
2 years ago
Reply to  RexFregosi

plus both his baby mama and step mom were hotties.

FungoAle
Super Member
2 years ago
Reply to  RexFregosi

Wait, is this guy Hocking on the payroll or is just stopping by? I had not heard.

We all got our favorites, personally I like the Angel radio crew much more than the TV crew. Terry let’s the game broadcast itself and not adding needless overtures to fill a void. See Daron Sutton.

LanaBanana
Super Member
2 years ago
Reply to  FungoAle

What I heard them say on TV is that Hocking would be doing 4 spring games – 2 more.

red floyd
Legend
2 years ago
Reply to  LanaBanana

I hope he isn’t hocking a loogie.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend
Reply to  RexFregosi

I like O’Neil just fine.