LA Angels Wednesday News Crash: J’accuse

Good morning Angels fans, how’s your morning? Well, warm up with some links!

Trial News

The trial in the death of Tyler Skaggs has begun. The defense for Eric Kay has blamed former Angel Matt Harvey for providing the drug Percocet, which Eric has claimed he saw Tyler Skaggs consume.

Meanwhile, the prosecution did not name Matt Harvey, but did agree that Skaggs was provided something by a third party. However, they also reiterate that only Eric Kay could have provided the drugs that did end up killing Tyler Skaggs on the road trip in Texas.

The prosecution has also accused Kay of providing opioids to other players besides Skaggs and that he was provided them by those inside the umpire offices at Angel Stadium.

Keeping up with this all can be confusing. ESPN lays out what happened at Tuesday’s hearing. Basically, the prosecution is accusing Eric Kay of being Tyler Skaggs’ drug dealer, and thus being partly responsible for his overdose death. They also accuse him of dealing drugs to other players. Kay admits to being an addict, but is trying to shift blame, since if found guilty, he will go to jail.

In other court case news, Trevor Bauer will not be charged with any criminal charges. He still may be suspended by MLB, however.

Other News

Oh yeah, and during all of this, MLB has sopped testing for PED use as the CBA has expired. Former players are worried that use will increase in this lull.

In other news, Sinclair and the Cubs are in discussion to make a direct to consumer service for games. Hey, would you pay $18 a month for Angels games?

CBA negotiations are still paused for now. The owners are meeting at Disney World. The Players are meeting in Arizona. In short, they aren’t speaking to each other.

Manfred will speak to the media on Thursday. Do not expect any answers though.

The players are sick of Mafred and the owners prolonging the lockout. I mean, the time is running out on getting a deal done.

Anything I missed? Post below for upvotes.

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Brent
Super Member
2 years ago

Brutal drawing of Eric

steelgolf
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2 years ago
Reply to  Brent

Looks like a character from King of the Hill.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Legal drugs and PEDs for everyone. Let God and Darwin sort it out. Also, season tickets to MiLB teams for everyone. Plus also also we should make boxing and horse racing great again.

MLB baseball can suck it.

Mia
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Mia
2 years ago

Jeremy Giambi passed away.

Horrific news.

steelgolf
Super Member
2 years ago
Reply to  Mia

According to TMZ he passed away at his parents So Cal home. And unfortunately, suicide is suspected. Mental health demons. Sad news indeed.

Mia
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Mia
2 years ago
Reply to  steelgolf

Oh god that’s rough.

Good reminder to check in on your friends and family :/

Jim Atkins
Super Member
2 years ago
Reply to  Mia

Only 47. I’m old enough to be his father. Damm. That totally sucks.

Eric_in_Portland
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2 years ago

I’m convinced that the plan is to miss some of the season. I think the owners have agreed that that will put pressure on the players to concede on many issues. How else explain 7 weeks without a proposal?

So….June 1st, maybe.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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It’s been seven weeks since the owner’s proposal?

Eric_in_Portland
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2 years ago

no, it took 7 weeks from the lockout before the proposal. Because, even though they all knew it was coming for 2 years they had nothing prepared when they started the lockout. And the players aren’t doing much to speed things up. It feels like “we’ll get back to you one of these days”

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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So you think they would have sorted a bunch of stuff out before Dec 1 when both sides decided to just go waste a month being rich for the holidays? Were the players even meeting with each other back then? I mean sure, I guess the MLB could have made an offer just to make one with no one on the other end of the phone to care. They probably had their initial lame offer ready back during the season, but there’s no such thing as a one sided negotiation, and no offers without active negotiators. Besides, both sides had to cross their arms and stick their lower lips out for a while so the public would figure out who the real victims are here.

steelgolf
Super Member
2 years ago

Yep, both sides went into this with zero sense of urgency. Now we have this long, protracted, ballroom dance.

Jeff Joiner
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2 years ago

I’d gladly pay $18 per month for Angels games. I’d then cut back on cable significantly, probably all together.

If anyone has an idea on how I can get Angels baseball without cable, let me know. Between ESPN+ and DAZN I already get all of my other favorite sports. My son pretty much only watches YouTube and Disney. I’m paying for a ton of channels I rarely watch.

cookmeister
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2 years ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

sportsurge.net

2pints
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2 years ago
Reply to  cookmeister

Thats what I use

Mia
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Mia
2 years ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

How do you feel about using a VPN to access MLB.tv?

Eric_in_Portland
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2 years ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

are you saying it’s not on KTLA any more? I left the area in 1982. Perhaps things have changed since then.

Charles Sutton
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2 years ago

No baseball on KTLA.

Cowboy26
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2 years ago
Reply to  Charles Sutton

Not since The Cowboy went to the big campground in the sky.

red floyd
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2 years ago

Was on Fox Sports West, now Bally Sports West. I think the deal expires this year (it coincided with Albert’s contract).

Cowboy26
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2 years ago
Reply to  red floyd

And Prime ticket and On TV before that.

Mia
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Mia
2 years ago
Reply to  red floyd

Remember the days when you didn’t even know if the game would be aired in HD or not?

Those were the days…

steelgolf
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2 years ago
Reply to  Mia

HD? I remember the days when you didn’t know if it was going to be on tv, you may have to settle for the radio broadcast.

Mia
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Mia
2 years ago
Reply to  steelgolf

We’re old, dude.

steelgolf
Super Member
2 years ago
Reply to  Mia

I’m old, you are still a youngster in your prime!!

Eric_in_Portland
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2 years ago
Reply to  steelgolf

me in 1977, on my honeymoon in Laguna Beach: “I’ll meet you downstairs in a few minutes, honey”. Then I quickly turned on the radio. Just for a few minutes, though. I had to find out the score.

Compare that to my Dad, who loved the Brooklyn Dodgers. 1946, my Mom is in the hospital, having given birth to my older sister. My Dad parks the car but leaves the radio on because the Dodgers are tied, 0-0, in extra innings. 12th inning, still 0-0. 15th inning, still 0-0, my Dad still in the car. Finally the game gets called after the 19th, still 0-0. My Dad goes into the hospital to find out visiting hours are over. Hoo boy….

Jim Atkins
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2 years ago

That man had a serious death wish.

Eric_in_Portland
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2 years ago
Reply to  Jim Atkins

My Mom was still mad in the late 90s.

Cowboy26
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2 years ago

Just one more inning….

Mia
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Mia
2 years ago
Reply to  steelgolf

I am clearly 65 years old.

red floyd
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2 years ago
Reply to  Mia

Yeah, right. You probably don’t even have a lawn.

Mia
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Mia
2 years ago
Reply to  red floyd

Many things become possible when you leave California in your 20s

steelgolf
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2 years ago
Reply to  red floyd

Hard to mow snow.

WallyChuckChili
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2 years ago
Reply to  Mia

But the Bud down Mia

Mia
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Mia
2 years ago

I am assuming you meant put the bud down….

First of all, no one calls it bud anymore. And second of all, no.

WallyChuckChili
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2 years ago
Reply to  Mia

Depends on your location. Also if you are old as you claim, you do.

Mia
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Mia
2 years ago

If I were that old i’d be calling it grass and reefer haha

red floyd
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2 years ago
Reply to  Mia

comment image

steelgolf
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2 years ago
Reply to  Mia

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

red floyd
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2 years ago
Reply to  steelgolf

Has Mia been hanging out on your lawn now?

Mia
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Mia
2 years ago
Reply to  red floyd

I’m on every lawn and no lawns at the same time.

red floyd
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2 years ago
Reply to  Mia

Schroedinger’s Darned Kid.

Mia
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Mia
2 years ago
Reply to  red floyd

That should be the title of my autobiography

steelgolf
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2 years ago
Reply to  red floyd

No, I have a short fence around my lawn to discourage the lawn pirates and never -do-wells from encouraging their pets to use it as a potty station.

tanana40
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2 years ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

MLB.TV is about $90 a season if you get the subscription for a single team. You also get MLB audio with that.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  tanana40

Are the Angels blacked out in, you know, “Los Angeles”

tanana40
Super Member
2 years ago

Oh, good point. I live in Idaho.

red floyd
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2 years ago

So KLAA. Terry and Mark are great.

rspencer
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2 years ago
Reply to  red floyd

We can’t get KLAA at night here in Bungalow Heaven, because we are on a granite shelf (believe it or not: it has to do with groundwave transmission). Actually, all we can get is KFI and KRLA.

red floyd
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2 years ago
Reply to  rspencer

MLB Gameday Audio is like $20 for the season, and there’s no blackouts.

rspencer
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2 years ago
Reply to  red floyd

That’s what I do use. I was just making conversation.

steelgolf
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2 years ago
Reply to  rspencer

KRLA? I haven’t heard of them since the 60s

Jessica DeLine
Admin
Super Member
2 years ago

Great links today. A lot going on which is weird since no baseball is happening any time soon.

Fansince1971
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2 years ago

Tough time to be a baseball fan. Tougher time to be an Angels fan.

Last edited 2 years ago by Fansince1971
ihearhowie3.0
Super Member
2 years ago

Noticed how few national writers were even re-tweeting or acknowledging this info yesterday.

Will be interesting to see if it picks up steam today. There is seriously explosive stuff in here, if this gets treated like run of the mill news mixed in with minor league signings you gotta think these guys are trying to keep access to the league/avoid punishment for shining light on this.

Twebur
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2 years ago
Reply to  ihearhowie3.0

They are all close to it. Know about it, or do it….the entire world of professional sports and everyone surrounding it.
Pain management has always been an issue, recreational drug use has always been an issue, abuse, always been an issue.
It’s only “explosive stuff” because someone died from it.

And wouldn’t you know it, “The Angels”……trAdition.

GrandpaBaseball
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2 years ago
Reply to  Twebur

Perfectly said.

ihearhowie3.0
Super Member
2 years ago

I can see why the league may not be in a hurry to strike a deal. Imagine Angels players and Dodgers management having to face the media this week reporting to AZ.

Related: the league should start pushing Arte out. The amount of lawsuits and scandal that have been popping up in recent years should be alarming. At a bare minimum they should push for a firing of the executive team that has allowed the organization to rot.

rspencer
Trusted Member
2 years ago
Reply to  ihearhowie3.0

Why should Arte get pushed out when no one is pushing out the Astros’ owner?

GrandpaBaseball
Legend
2 years ago

On a daily basis it is harder to support Arte Moreno as the Owner of the team. This organization is going to take a PR hit. A complete reorganization from the top-down needs to be addressed. Won’t happen though because they all are protected by Arte himself.

red floyd
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2 years ago
Reply to  RexFregosi

That’s UNPOSSIBLE!!! It’s well known that Arte is CHEAP ARTE!!!!

Twebur
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2 years ago
Reply to  red floyd

Cheap’en evil..

Jeff Joiner
Editor
Legend
2 years ago
Reply to  RexFregosi

Arte spends. Foolishly.

Wells, GMJ, Pujols, Hamilton are unmitigated disasters.

GrandpaBaseball
Legend
2 years ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

Spends on roster payroll for sure, but as you pointed out not wisely at times. Does he spend on front office personnel? How about the minor league players? Coaching throughout the system? In 19 years, we were in how many World Series?

Big payroll does not produce Championships, the right people in other positions do. Tampa Bay seems to win, Miami knows how to draft, Houston in the 4th highest market stays in the middle and Oakland seems to do OK. Why? Hiring the right people. If you are leaving three high priced VPs in charge and not seeing results, then it’s time for change.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  Jeff Joiner

I was actually talking to an Angels fan at work the other day about this. Ol CheapnEvil just isn’t that cheap. But for some reason he can’t find any pitchers who want to take his money… probably because of all the evil. He has the glory of the Wells, GMJ, Pujols, Hamilton contracts under his belt, which is bad, but is also pretty much par for the course with “big spenders”.

What we were talking about though, was could it have been worse if he’d landed the pitchers he’d pursued? These were the guy’s we could think of…

Grienke. This probably would have been alright. Just expensive.
Wheeler. Yup. Screw this dude’s wife, south Jersey sucks.
Corbin. Nope. Bad.
Strausburg: Nope. Bad.
JA Happ: Meh.
Charlie Morton: Yup. Hate Florida and children.
Cole: Yup, he’s good. Also costs as much as a fighter jet.
Bauer: Ummm…. bad.
Masahiro Tanaka: Bad.
Yu Darvish: Meh
Anibel Sanchez: We’d all demand he burn at the stake before his 3 year cycle of bad seasons ended. Bad.
Gio Gonzalez: Meh, mostly bad.
Dallas Keuchel: Meh.

So only four of those guys would have been the world changers we love to complain about Ol’ Cheavil “missing” on. Two of them were never ever coming here cause wives. But wouldn’t it have been cool if he’d landed Corbin and then landed Strausburg instead of Rendon? Or if we’d “won” and signed Bauer?

red floyd
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2 years ago

But what about some nameless dude nobody ever heard of that was drafted in the 10th round, so we can post his picture with no explanation?

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  red floyd

And let’s not forget Free Agent Pitcher Nobody Cared About Who Turns Out To Be Good For a Year So CtPG Guy Bitches About Not Signing Him.. or FANCAWTOTBGFYSCGBANSH.

I for one am still engorged with rage because Arte was too cheap and stupid to sign Miles Mikolas in the 2017 off season.

red floyd
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2 years ago

Yeah, him.

Cowboy26
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2 years ago
Reply to  red floyd

You mean Kole Calhoun?

steelgolf
Super Member
2 years ago

Strasburg is a good pitcher who can’t stay healthy. He would have driven us crazy being a permanent DL list name.

GrandpaBaseball
Legend
2 years ago

From the “Being redundant Department”. Tougher Ped rules and penalties need to be implemented.

ESPN put out what they believe are the top 100 players of all time. They allowed ARod and Bonds, Clemens along with Ortiz and Manny to be included. Makes no sense to me, but what’s worse is that Ortiz is considered a top 100 player, these writers seem to not know what they are doing imho.

Jim Atkins
Super Member
2 years ago

Take it up with the Department of Redundancy Department.

Senator_John_Blutarsky
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2022 for the franchise will be under the cloud of all the sick shit that will come out during the Kay trial. The best case outcome is that the front office is confirmed to be incompetent and out of touch. Even with it out that Harvey was likely distributing pills, it’s likely to get much worse before any element of healing can begin.

RexFregosi
Super Member
2 years ago

A bit mystified by the Sinclair/Cubs link, especially since it didn’t mention MLB TV.

What’s the difference? locals won’t be blocked out? I’m already paying about $25/month for all games and it works well for watching Angels in AZ.

GrandpaBaseball
Legend
2 years ago

Good morning to all, if you’re in SoCal a serious February heat wave so grab your shorts and sandals and have fun.

Trevor Bauer while being kinky, we all agree on that I’m sure, looks as though he told the truth in that it was consensual relations with his accuser. While I am certainly not part of his fan club, I hope he is able to put his career back together.

The Owners and Players are playing hard ball and acting like children, but they are not just far apart they are willing to destroy the game. Whether on paper or for real in cash, billionaires are not going to be pushed into giving up too much of their investments to the players. Players want maybe a counter proposal that can start the talks back up.

If you were a neutral arbitrator and had the last word, how would you decide this lockout?

Senator_John_Blutarsky
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i haven’t been following the Bauer garbage, but was it really confirmed that beating the woman was consensual?

AnAngelsFan
Super Member
2 years ago

The judge that initially denied the restraining order stated that the evidence indicated it was consensual. The criminal investigation now found not enough evidence to justify charges.

However, a civil jury with a lower burden proof could still find it was not consensual.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend

He literally texted her and said “This is what I’m into $@*(@&, @$%!^@ and a whole lot of *^@#%@^ in the $%#%#^.” And she said “Me too. Let’s meet up.”

Then, after all this romance happened said lady was interested in meeting up again a little while later.

This is why I didn’t even understand why it took this long to investigate.