LA Angels Tuesday News Crash: Butterfield Is Gone

The Angels have let Brian Butterfield go.  So Butterfield is gone. I wonder who is next. 

Happy birthday Patrick Sandoval.  Get well soon.

Several pitchers in the Angels minor league system had good years in 2021.  Austin Warren, of course, made it to the big leagues but Davis Daniel and Sam Bachman also impressed people

Angels #20 prospect Robinson Pina pitched a couple of shutout innings on day 4 of the Arizona fall League. 

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The Padres are going to interview Mike Shildt but they do not plan to interview Ron Washington. More details emerged about the Cardinals firing Shildt, although it mainly still looks like he just couldn’t get along with John Mozeliak. 

The Brewers denied the Mets permission to interview David Stearns.  The Mets are having a hard time finding their next General Manager.  They can’t have Billy Beane either

This is rich!  David Ortiz says Barry Bonds should be in the Hall Of Fame

The Detroit Tigers are hiring for a whole bunch of positions

Photo credit: Rex Fregosi

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Eric_in_Portland
Super Member
1 month ago

did anyone post this? If so, I haven’t seen it. Nice writeup about Jose Iglesias

https://sports.yahoo.com/jose-iglesias-cant-play-in-october-but-the-red-sox-wouldnt-be-here-without-him-alcs-131930764.html

FungoAle
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Twebur

While this may not make a difference, Driveline has gotten some positive notoriety. Along with Chris Carpenter coming on board, things appear to be moving in a positive direction.

I have this gut feel Wise will remain as PC. This does not excite me but also could live with it.

Twebur
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  FungoAle

“The Times they are a-changing” with our coaching staff… Wise will look better with better pitchers.

I don’t know much about Driveline but I thought this is cutting edge shit and all the cool kids like it, no?

Wouldn’t this hire get “2002’s” stamp of approval? I mean that’s how I judge these moves or lack of.

Cowboy26
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Twebur

So you’re saying we should boycott it?

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Super Member
Reply to  FungoAle

Matt Wise is like being told you are having Watermelon for desert. At first you’re like “meh” but then you eat it and you’re not angry about it.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Super Member
Reply to  Twebur

It means the Angels are building a FO. Apparently, they want help with pitching because they hired this guy and Chris Carpenter. Another ex-Cardinal, Tony Ferriera is an MiLB development guy. Matt Swanson is also an ex-Cardinal FO guy. They hired Ray Montgomery away from the Brewers last year and Brian Parker away from the Doyer’s scouting dept. They also hired Joey Prybenski away from, surprise, the Cardinals, last year and he runs our farm system now. Perry also brought over a couple guys from Atlanta.

It sounds like Perry likes the Cardinal Way…. which would be fine with me.

Eric_in_Portland
Super Member
1 month ago

if Ortiz gets voted in next year, his 1st year of eligibility, and Bonds doesn’t…..grrrr. That’s what I’d say. And I think it’s likely, too.

JackFrost
Super Member
1 month ago

Agree that it is likely for Ortiz.

In contrast, Bonds may not make it in. In addition to the elephant in the Hall of Fame voting room (steroids) Bonds was also pretty much universally disliked in the media (accept perhaps in San Francisco). This kind of thing always comes back to haunt players. It has for Schilling as well….

Ortiz (Big Cheating Papi) on the other hand was loved by the media. He was also a Red Sux. Big difference.

Last edited 1 month ago by JackFrost
GrandpaBaseball
Super Member
1 month ago

Ortiz and ARod or even Bonds and Clemens or Sheffield all want us to believe that they belong next to Williams , Aaron and Mays and Ruth. Along with Manfield trying to ruin MLB we have the writers voting in cheaters who tried to ruin the game for their own greed. What a mess.

So if you are not a puppet to the front office always using analytics you must go. Going forward using your head and gut does not cut it any longer. Shit, does that mean long live the shift? Lot’s of laughs, all I can hope for is that coaches teach to hit the other way.

red floyd
Super Member
1 month ago

I never noticed. Was Butterfield’s uniform number 8?

Cowboy26
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  red floyd

Not sure but that would confirm that he was a Skanks lover.

That movie was back when Liz Taylor was still a hottie. Unlike some of her later roles:

https://www.reddit.com/r/LiveFromNewYork/comments/jvneu2/john_belushi_as_elizabeth_taylor_11111978/

Last edited 1 month ago by Cowboy26
DowningDude
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

I think he was getting at a Rev Halofan post at the old place about the curse of jersey number 8.

Eric_in_Portland
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  red floyd

no, which is why I had to force the joke to be about his dinner, as in Butterfield ate.

DowningDude
Super Member
1 month ago

Is this même due to his sudden diarrhea fits that took him out from a couple of games?

DowningDude
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  red floyd

He wore the number of the great Jeff Davanon. And the future jersey number of years 10-20 Albert Pujols. He did so great in 55 for the dodgers that arte will bring him back for another quarter billion 10 spot.

red floyd
Super Member
1 month ago
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DowningDude
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  red floyd

I will vacate your verdure

red floyd
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  red floyd

And so did Cowboy26

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Super Member

Do those positions with the Tigers come with a Kevlar vest and lifetime supply of Lexapro?

WallyChuckChili
Super Member
1 month ago

Did the Angels sign somebody new?
Who’s the guy in today’s cover photo?
Can he Pitch?

AnAngelsFan
Trusted Member
1 month ago

I don’t think he can pitch, but I think he shaved a second or two off his 100 meter dash.

Simba
Member
1 month ago

Dan Haren. He throws 88. Probably still better than most of the Angels pitching staff.

Cowboy26
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Simba

Wow, I never noticed how Dan Haren sure looks a lot like Brandon Marsh

steelgolf
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

They are hair – a – like twins.

red floyd
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Simba

Paging Goose Gaskins! Paging Goose Gaskins!!

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Super Member
Reply to  red floyd

I thought he won the lottery and bought into the Angels, and has been seen sipping Pink Chardonnay and eating bon-bons with Arte?

Jim Atkins
Trusted Member
1 month ago

Too many errors of judgement from Butterfield, glad to see him gone. Understand that one completely. So who’s next? Pitching?

steelgolf
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Jim Atkins

Some were talking about Butterfield being the best SS coach ever because he worked with Jeter and helped him become a gold glove all star. Uhhh, Jeter is far from being the greatest SS evah. And his coaching prowess didn’t seem to help Iglesias.

JackFrost
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  steelgolf

Actually, I kind of hope this decision was based upon a less than stellar season for our infielders defensively. That reason would be preferable to the alternative, which is that Perry ditched him because he’s a “Maddon guy.”

As far as I know Perry and Joe have a good working relationship, but if this was based upon some sort of behind the scenes power struggle between Perry and Joe that would not be good (I have no proof of this of course, just hope it is not the case). It is hard to win when the manager and GM are not on the same page. We know that from the days of Scioscia and JeDi.

Cowboy26
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  JackFrost

Agreed. Maybe the firing of Jose Molina by PTP was a similar move?

cookmeister
Member
1 month ago
Reply to  steelgolf

Butterfield is widely regarded as the person that helped Jeter to become a better defender (Jeter himself included). In the minors Jeter’s defense was awful. Yes he wasn’t the best fielding SS of all time, but Butterfield certainly deserves some credit.

Cowboy26
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  cookmeister

some 26 years ago? Sure. Give him a heart felt congratulations and a plaque . We need to move on.

DowningDude
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

*gift basket

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Super Member
Reply to  DowningDude

Lovely parting gifts

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DowningDude
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Jim Atkins

Firing coaches like this is comparable to furniture arrangements on the titanic

FungoAle
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Jim Atkins

Like sending a runner to the plate in getting thrown out? Or being too conservative? I mean, I’ve see Dino Ebel windmill runners to their death but I still liked the aggressiveness.

I had no issue with him. The fact our defense nose-dived surely cannot be pinned on a guy who recently joined the team . Butterfield is an accomplish MLB coach, served as a Blue Jay bench coach, a finalist for the Jays managerial slot, and a roving infield instructor. Butterfield was instrumental in turning Mike Napoli into a 1st baseman and a couple of other notable players. He coaches and will dig in.

Usually coaches move on after a new manager is brought on-board but being let go now, seems like he is being made out to be a scapegoat.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Super Member
Reply to  FungoAle

It’s not that weird or, because we’re CtPG and we’re always more enflamed than a single 42 year old on Tik Tok, suspect/nepharious/evil.

New GM usually means new manager but we hired Maddon a year ahead of PTP. PTP did the smart thing and took some time to see what he had and get to know working with Maddon. Now adjustments are being made and they are mostly Maddon’s guys because they were all Maddon’s guys. I’d be worried if PTP pulled a Reagins and they just kept everything the way Maddon had it from word go.

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