LA Angels Weekend News Crash:

Shohei Ohtani continues to be the brightest light in Angels land and MLB. EastSPiN is fanning the flames of the Angels losing him already.

The Athletic breaks down the two horse race for MVP between Ohtani and Vlad Jr. The dreaded words “Triple Crown” and “playoffs” are circulating as though Miggy is in the running again. I think the voting bloc understands all around greatness a lot better now than it did a decade ago. Or hope so.

The Angel normally in the MVP discussion is Mike Trout. When will he be back? Perry Minasian said they aren’t shutting him down but they aren’t rushing him either. That’s as clear of an update as you’ll get around these parts.

The biggest news around MLB was the Field of Dreams game between the MFY and White Sox last night. The small town of Dyersville, Iowa saw its population nearly triple thanks to the game and had to do a lot of prep work.

MLB hyped this game hard. Kevin Costner came out and played catch to the Field of Dreams theme song.

Never a bad time to hear James Earl Jones make an epic speech. And you’re never too old to want to play one more game of catch with Dad.

It’s a good movie. It’s not Bull Durham or The Sandlot, but it definitely fills an off season evening.

Former Halo farmhand Patrick Corbin has been pretty bad the last couple of years and is owed a large amount of money over the next three. Perhaps there’s a mechanical adjustment that could fix him and make him good again. If so, would we take him if Washington was willing to eat a significant portion of that contract?

Of course baseball is being played in towns large and small now that minor league baseball is back. How is that going? Well, like all of life somewhat hit or miss.

Several franchises set attendance records over Fourth of July Others drew sellout crowds or yearly highs. But overall, despite contraction attendance across all minor league levels was down from 2019 levels going into the holiday weekend. Those numbers should look better once July figures are added in as approximately 10% of all fans to see a minor league game this year did so over the Fourth.

Around baseball, Chris Davis announced his retirement. He’ll still get the last year of his contract, it just looks like it will be spread out.

We’re at the point in the season where we can start believing in numbers. There have been some really nice surprises around MLB this year as in every other.

Corbin Burnes became the second pitcher this year to tie Tom Seaver’s MLB record of 10 consecutive strikeouts.

Lecture Time: We’ve created the best Angels site on the web because we stick to what we know and like: baseball. Yes, occasionally baseball and politics will overlap and that is unavoidable but that’s been happening too often lately and the comments have gotten a little testy. Let’s chill out on that.

A player misses time for Covid. Sucks. Let’s talk about how that impacts the team or pennant race and not go on a diatribe supporting or hating on vaccines.

Someone does go on a political or borderline rant that doesn’t fit your fancy, ignore it. Commenting generally leads to doubling down and arguments. We’re going to be more diligent on deleting these comments before they cause arguments. Keeping one there a few minutes too long or taking one down quickly isn’t us choosing sides, just us keeping the peace.

Yes, I know I fall into this trap as well. I’m going to hold myself more accountable also.

Name calling: never acceptable. Sarcasm and snark are trademarks of this community. But there’s a huge difference between that and calling people an “a hole” or other things I’ve seen this week.

This is a phenomenal community. The only thing we need to agree on is we love the Angels. It would be nice to also universally hate the Dodgers and Roid Sux, but that’s optional. Like DG’s attire during game threads. We can argue with our friends and family members over the shit that’s on the news. Let’s argue with each other over baseball here.

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Cowboy26
Super Member
2 months ago

It’s BTO night again tonight in the Pacific Northwest tonight Hopefully it will last more than 2 innings this time .

Cowboy26
Super Member
2 months ago

I suspect MLB will incrementally extend Bauer’s administrative leave until 2028 as new information will continue to surface:

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2021/08/trevor-bauer-was-subject-of-previous-protection-order.html

steelgolf
Super Member
2 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Jeez, this guy May see some jail time and be banished by MLB.

Cowboy26
Super Member
2 months ago
Reply to  steelgolf

Unfortunately, With the power of the MLBPA it will Probably have to happen in that order .

Last edited 2 months ago by Cowboy26
GrandpaBaseball
Super Member
2 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

You know I do not care much for reporting something that did not result in a darn thing happening. The Washington Post found nothing. The Women rescinded the restraining order and no charges filed. I think he is a sick individual, needs mental health help badly and instead of years getting his mind back to normal he goes to jail with other sick people who can only encourage him in seeing women to be punching bags. He is messed up no doubt, but so is our system. Right now it must be a he said – she said otherwise he’d be in jail.

Eric_in_Portland
Super Member
2 months ago

My actual really true prediction: Shohei Ohtani will sign a megabucks long term deal with us. It will be a pain-free negotiation. Arte will be happy. Shohei will be happy.

We will have $100 mil going to 3 players and will pay the rest of the team an average of $3.5 mil per player.

If we develop a super duper farm system we can be competitive. More likely our children’s children might see another title.

But the main point is that Arte will not let Shohei get away. Arte’s teams feature stars to bring fans to the park, to sell merchandise. Shohei will sign his huge contract in this coming off-season.

Another prediction I have is that we will have lobsters in many games.

GrandpaBaseball
Super Member
2 months ago

Having the Asstros being a better team than us really stings in that it’s core like Altuve at heart are cheaters. But not tonight, we will not just disappear into the night. We will fight back and prevail. We are not to lose, but beat the Asstros with pitchg and hitting and defense. WE ARE Ohani driven.

Twebur
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Twebur
Super Member
2 months ago

Red meat!!! In coming!!!

A new study suggests MLB umpires discriminate against non-white players, according to Hank Snowdon, a student at Claremont McKenna.

https://sports.yahoo.com/mlb-umpires-show-discrimination-against-non-white-players-according-to-new-study-191649525.html

Eric_in_Portland
Super Member
2 months ago
Reply to  Twebur

if a batter goes 180 for 600 that’s a .300 batting average. If two (only two) of his “hit” at-bats result in spectacular defensive plays so he’s 178 for 600 he’ll have a .297 batting average. That, too, is a .003 difference. In other words, there isn’t enough evidence in this study to convince me it’s anything other than “umpires suck”.

Twebur
Super Member
2 months ago

Sure they have enough evidence……..…..if you’re looking for something, you can find it……..click……..click.click………click………click…..bait.

JackFrost
Super Member
2 months ago
Reply to  Twebur

YES. This is true.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  Twebur

Is this a test. They’re testing us right?

admkir
Trusted Member
2 months ago

Parents always said do not discuss religion and politics

2pints
Trusted Member
2 months ago
Reply to  admkir

Sounds to me like you’re saying Jesus can’t hit a curveball…

admkir
Trusted Member
2 months ago
Reply to  2pints

F U, I do it myself

Eric_in_Portland
Super Member
2 months ago
Reply to  2pints

which Jesus is that? But moving on….I learned that early in my business career. No religion, no politics, no sports. Some clients are Red Sox fans.

2pints
Trusted Member
2 months ago

No sports would be tough since thats an easy topic to discuss with someone you’re having to make small talk with for work. I actually prefer they follow sports, even if they have awful takes, because it makes the conversations easier for me.

Eric_in_Portland
Super Member
2 months ago
Reply to  2pints

if you’re comfortable with them, sure, sometimes. I’ve got a client who’s a die-hard Dodger fan. He knows I’m an Angels fan. Neither of us gets into that space where we smirk at each other. I should have said no bad-mouthing of teams or players.

admkir
Trusted Member
2 months ago

While my parents were not fans of any sport maybe I should have included the Yankees, Red Sox and Dodgers

Cowboy26
Super Member
2 months ago
Reply to  2pints

Not sure about that, but I wouldn’t mess with him at the lanes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1SfzV67Bqw

Last edited 2 months ago by Cowboy26
admkir
Trusted Member
2 months ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

Those subjects always depends on the forum

BushLeague
Member
2 months ago

I know it’s a VERY small sample size, but I am loving how much improved Adell has looked at the MLB level so far. His plate discipline is miles better than last year and his defense is at least passable. Getting excited about his future with the team!

DowningDude
Super Member
2 months ago
Reply to  BushLeague

+1 – very encouraging

Twebur
Super Member
2 months ago
Reply to  DowningDude

Overall big improvement, more comfortable and confident. Don’t trade him!

But……Still worried that he will be a defensive liability.

steelgolf
Super Member
2 months ago
Reply to  Twebur

If you can get an MLB #1 or 2 pitcher and a decent MiLB pitcher who is young with upside then I think you make a trade.

Twebur
Super Member
2 months ago
Reply to  steelgolf

Lucky for us, we can make that decision at the end of the season…
allows us to see how studly our young pitchers really are….might not need to trade him. Would be fun to see Trout, Adell, Marsh next year.

Besides, we can always sign a free agent starter??? That’s always worked for us? Right? Right?

James
Trusted Member
2 months ago
Reply to  Twebur

Lets give it a few more games before passing judgement though. I want nothing but good things though tbh. He has looked good she far

2pints
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2 months ago
Reply to  BushLeague

I had pretty good seats last night and was impressed by his size and speed when he scored on the sac fly.

GrandpaBaseball
Super Member
2 months ago

As far as Covid-19 and it’s Delta variant is that why the Big A with Ohtani pitching was not a full house? Or maybe because of the starting time being to early? Was it to warm and humid to be outdoors? No Trouty? East Coast team? How about a little of each? But it was a vocal crowd if you were George Springer. Wish I could have attended as it was a great crowd and The game was same. Shohei is lights out entertaining the home crowd this season. I am one of the dwindling fans who were there on Opening Day in 1961 and been a fan since. But I thought that I had seen all since then, but this Shohei is just like nothing I have ever seen. Unless you saw the 1918 Ruth or the 1919 Ruth nobody has seen anyone like Shohei. MVP is his to hold on to at this point imho and I sure hope his energy and Mojo can hold on. While the numbers may disagree, he had an off night last night and was just Dyno mite to the Jays and Vlad Jr. in particular. A Haglar vs Sugar Ray Leonard type match up. The Jays line up is Tommy Hearns powerful and they were held in the ropes. Eric from Portland has two sets of numbers and one has Shohei being mortal and is still kick butt good. Yes this is my favorite team since ’14 or ’09 all because of one Super Human player. For a career my favorites in 64 years of fandom are Trouty, Mantle Mays and Aaron and Clemente and Stargell. Shohei may join that list. Favorite Halos, Trouty, Shohei, Pierson, Baylor and Fletch. Got carried away didn’t I? Like a pitcher without his stuff out on the mound I get a little lonely and sometimes nostalgic remembering the past. See you at Gametread tonight.

BruinsAngelsKings
Trusted Member
2 months ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

Same thing when we were there for last nights game. Finally got to see Ohtani pitch in person.

Cowboy26
Super Member
2 months ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

He also played the part of the goat by grounding into 3 rally killing double plays during our 2 wins (it was Grandpaesque ) so we can all take solace in that.

BoyWithApple
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2 months ago

I love Albie Pearson. Led the league in runs scored in 1962 and hit the game winning home run in the first ever spring training game between the Dodgers and Angels.

GrandpaBaseball
Super Member
2 months ago

Seriously, if the Angels are paying Trout 37.5 million, Rendon 35 mil, Upton 25 mil (One more yr) and Shohei 39 mil (Yes I am Guessing) sure doesn’t leave much for the others. The remodel or the new stadium stuff needs to accelerate in “Gettin’ ‘er dun” mode. Walsh needs some money soon and good closers are not cheap, and the kids grow up way to soon.

JMHO, JUp relesed before his due date and more “Kids” brought up to find their way sooner than later.

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Super Member
2 months ago

First ESPN was lamenting we were wasting Trout’s best years, now the problem is that we have $72M tied up in Rendon and Trout and can’t pay Ohtani. The issue is not whether or not the money exists under the tax threshold – it does. The only issue is whether or not Arte will go above $182M in payroll.

If the tax threshold is not the budget for Arte, then he should deal Ohtani this off-season while his value is highest.

DaveChalk
Member
2 months ago

Yes. This. I love Ohtani but his on and off field revenue potential is so high that he is going to command a monster price and if we arent willing to go above the threshold like the Dodgers to put best possible team on the field is it our best play to continually tie up 70-75% of the payroll in a few players?

eyespy
Super Member
2 months ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

The future be damned

BoyWithApple
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2 months ago

It’s too bad that even people with a common interest struggle with having thoughtful, respectful discussions about the important issues of the day. It feels like we just can’t get out of our way, that humanity is just hardwired to self-destruct.

eyespy
Super Member
2 months ago
Reply to  BoyWithApple

This is baseball site. Discuss baseball almost exclusively, unless they flex the subjects for critical events. Politics are highly grounds upon, go to dedicated sites, or sites that allow you to discuss a cornucopia of subjects.

Not so hard.

Otherwise this site would be like the holidays with your when family.

MarineLayer
Trusted Member
2 months ago
Reply to  eyespy

The problem is that Covid has become large part of baseball and it may be a huge part of baseball for a long time to come. But I certainly will respect the community‘s decision to not discuss it.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Super Member
Reply to  MarineLayer

Thing is (and I apply this to all of us, not just you) we all know that the topic will start a hassle. We also know that a player being C19 listed is what it is at this point. There isn’t really a lot of meat to discuss with the topic other than “bumer for that team….” and then starting an argument about non-baseball stuff.

So yeah, I totally understand the recommendation to just skip it.

MarineLayer
Trusted Member
2 months ago

Oh, I understand and that is why I am happy to leave the topic alone in order to pursue our common interest in the Angels.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Super Member
Reply to  eyespy

Exactly. There is nothing wrong with arguing politics, there are just way better places on the internet to do it. Just like I love hardcore music, but when I’m at a jazz show I don’t start yelling “Play some Converge!”. If the topic is baseball it won’t hurt you at all to ignore Arte’s political leanings or some player’s BLM support. Sure, it’s there, but we can let it slide by, we all have the superpower of ignoring stuff.

BoyWithApple
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2 months ago

Isn’t every single thing that surrounds the game being played on the field politics? There is the politics of patriarchy and the exclusion of women. The politics of money where the wealthy exploit the poor and view their MiLB players as simply raw resources instead of human beings. There is the politics of protest ala Bruce Maxwell and Keynan Middleton. Baseball is even a direct reflection of the geopolitical tribalism that feeds the “our team/country/political party is better than yours” view of looking at the world. Baseball’s proudest moment involves Jackie Robinson and the politics of race. How can you fully appreciate baseball by disentangling it from politics?The context of baseball is life, after all.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Super Member
Reply to  BoyWithApple

To clarify my thinking, these things will come up, but I’m sure you’re intelligent enough to tell when someone’s throwing logs. Usually it’s when emotion seeps into a comment.

I can state my opinion that I think Arte needs to spend more on the farm. I can even have a nice discussion of whether or not it is all THAT unfair to pay MiLB players so little. But I can self censor myself and avoid moral superlatives like declaring something EVIL!!! or launching into a diatribe about capitalism, or candy assed American anarchists, or bringing up Trump/Hitler. What’s more, if I blow it and do bring up those topics, the people that read that comment can ignore me.

You know that feeling right? When your thoughts escalate from a simple opinion to something you are screaming about in your head? When you know you will start a fight if you say what’s in your head?

Any of us, at any point, on many topics, may feel something “needs to be said” or “faced” or what ever instead of calmly discussed. When we feel that way about something more political than baseball we need to temper ourselves. Or we’ll have a bunch of squabbling.

Twebur
Super Member
2 months ago

this is key ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 👍🏼X100

“we all have the superpower of ignoring stuff.”

WallyChuckChili
Super Member
2 months ago
Reply to  Twebur

I don’t think that’s my superpower

BoyWithApple
Member
Trusted Member
2 months ago

You must not have been at an Oscar Peterson show. He could play anything.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Super Member
Reply to  BoyWithApple

I actually saw a octet that had 3 baritone saxes and they played a bunch of revamped Black Sabbath songs, Korn, Soundgarden, Big Bottom by Spinal Tap…. it was dope.

BoyWithApple
Member
Trusted Member
2 months ago

Sounds like Apocalyptica.

Commander_Nate
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2 months ago

…but what if my main source of joy is spreading hate, pain, and discontent to others?

Also, what are your thoughts on Modern Life Is War and Touche Amore?

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Super Member
Reply to  Commander_Nate

I like Touche Amore. They’re pretty cool to me. I’ve heard MLIW but am not all that familiar with them. The only album I have is Witness, reminds me of old Ebullition Records bands. I am all for any hardcore band that doesn’t break into singing about how their heart hurts and no one understands them.

Commander_Nate
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2 months ago

Ha! I know what you mean. Touche is one of the best bands in the hardcore/post-hardcore scene the last decade or so IMO. MLIW is an underrated gem for me that I didn’t really dive into until five or six years ago. They’re back together now but I wish they’d stuck around longer in their heyday and built a bigger catalog. I listen to My Love My Way a ton along with Witness so you might like that one.

Also, an old friend of my brother and I is in this band if you or any of the other old punks around here are looking for something new.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Super Member
Reply to  Commander_Nate

Your friend’s band makes me miss circle pits.

DowningDude
Super Member
2 months ago
Reply to  eyespy

… like a DiPoto Thanksgiving 😂😂😂

GrandpaBaseball
Super Member
2 months ago
Reply to  BoyWithApple

We here are a community, a community of Angels fans, Baseball fans, as if that was not enough to argue about. Sometimes political in terms of our Team and the sport is enough for me.

YOUknowulovetheIE
Trusted Member
2 months ago

Heaney’s next start he will go 8 innings, 10 k, 4 hits allowed, with zero runs.

Last edited 2 months ago by YOUknowulovetheIE
admkir
Trusted Member
2 months ago

No more good dog, just bad dog

eyespy
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2 months ago
Reply to  admkir

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Last edited 2 months ago by eyespy
2pints
Trusted Member
2 months ago

I believe it t’was I who first called someone an a-hole a little while ago (to which he exacted his savage revenge upon me recently), so for that I humbly apologize (to the site, not the person). I’ll be better.

On a lighter note, I walked by Gubi at the game last night and instinctively yelled “Gubi!” He turned around like he was going to see a friend and seemed disappointed when he saw just me standing there. He said hi and moved on. My take, he’s pretty tall and very tan.

Last edited 2 months ago by 2pints
TapatioMan
Member
2 months ago
Reply to  2pints

Re the name calling: Not excusing you or anyone else for personal attacks.. but if you’re referring to the exchange I have in mind about a particular word someone used on here, and then that person doubling down by calling it “creative writing” after you called them out on it, I’m sort of glad that happened. It makes it easier to know who not to take seriously.

eyespy
Super Member
2 months ago
Reply to  TapatioMan

Yuh gots me

TapatioMan
Member
2 months ago
Reply to  eyespy

Not sure if you’re joking, but no, not you ‘spy!

eyespy
Super Member
2 months ago
Reply to  TapatioMan

I’m super cereal

2pints
Trusted Member
2 months ago
Reply to  TapatioMan

Yeah I think that was part of the whole rigmarole. His story about what happened to me in prison from that same thread was a bit off putting as well.

DowningDude
Super Member
2 months ago
Reply to  TapatioMan

I can tell you right now … Never take me seriously. 😇👍

eyespy
Super Member
2 months ago
Reply to  DowningDude

After reading this comment, I am seriously confused

TapatioMan
Member
2 months ago
Reply to  DowningDude

You never seem to be out of line, though! I was talking about a user with the initials JF. Rhymes with Hack Lost

GrandpaBaseball
Super Member
2 months ago

Republicrats have sent me a recall ballot for Sledgers and I can’t find his stats anywhere that back his case for going. Ah, the Demoricans have sent me a recall Ballots on Arte’s ownership but no win – loss record here either. Now what is a concerned illegal baseball fan to do? Well it says postage not paid, now I’m really confused as to Manfred trying to save the owners money again or not. I forget how this mailing stuff works as it has been so long. To Flag or not to Flag, that is the Question. To like or not to be liked? This is ready deep end stuff. Should I be documented or demented?

eyespy
Super Member
2 months ago

Politics???

DowningDude
Super Member
2 months ago
Reply to  eyespy

Some lady named Paula Ticks. She is quite a blood sucker 😋

Last edited 2 months ago by DowningDude
JackFrost
Super Member
2 months ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

You are correct Jeff. Hips are everything in baseball. Without full and healthy hip rotation you can’t generate any power in your swing; all arms instead. This does explain alot about why we saw pretty much zero power from Rendon.

2pints
Trusted Member
2 months ago
Reply to  Twebur

My take: The guy has been playing injured all season, was on and off the IL several times, until his body finally told him “Dude wtf are you doing? Let me heal!” So he tried to play for us, and his contract, but after a while just couldn’t.

For that he is vilified by some here. He played through injury and pain until it became too much. Hopefully thats not a sign of how it’ll be over the rest of his contract tenure, but the animosity I’ve scene thrown his way just seems way off base for a guy that has been fighting injuries all season.

MarineLayer
Trusted Member
2 months ago
Reply to  2pints

He hurt the team playing through his injuries, if that’s what it was. We’ve been getting better production out of Jack Mayfield.

MarineLayer
Trusted Member
2 months ago
Reply to  Twebur

Thanks a lot RenDown. If you can’t play don’t play. You weren’t doing anybody any favors. I’m also interested in what suboptimal activities you were involved in off the field. Your quotes are behind a pay wall so I can’t read them.

TapatioMan
Member
2 months ago
Reply to  MarineLayer

Suboptimal

I often wonder what happened to him.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Super Member
Reply to  MarineLayer

I’m also interested in what suboptimal activities you were involved in off the field.”

Dude, seriously, what is your personal history with Rendon? Did he marry your prom date or something? Do you think he’s hiding his quotes behind a pay wall so you can’t go all Agent Mulder and dig a little deeper for the truth behind the truth?

There’s no Illuminati involvement here. He has had a hip that nags at him. I actually have a similar injury now. Sometimes it just bothers me a little, sometimes it gets so bad it actually causes me problems on the opposite leg and, more often, my back. Back when it was a nagging injury he played through it. Who gets surgery for a negligible ache that may just heal up? It got worse. Now he needs surgery. He also got knee capped by a baseball. There’s nothing suspicious about any of this. Your fixation on the guy is way weirder than his injury history.

MarineLayer
Trusted Member
2 months ago

My problem with this guy is that his salary is going to make it so that we won’t be able to keep Ohtani and/or sign other more useful players. I also cared about the stupid signings of Gary Matthews Jr., Josh Hamilton, CJ Wilson, Justin Upton and the big salami Albert Pujols.

I don’t care about Anthony Rendon at all except I wish he signed with another team.

I think he handled his injury really stupidly and caused the team harm. Regarding my personal injuries, if something hurts, I go to the doctor and find out what the heck is wrong. Is it so hard for him to do that? Apparently it is. Reading what he said about the way he handled his injuries makes absolutely no sense to me.

My only fixation is that the team get better, and I believe he is an obstacle to that.

Lets see where we are at next year, and if he’s back to being a usable player I will apologize for being a troll on this. And if he continues down this injury path, then you can admit I was right to be concerned, especially when Ohtani is wearing another uniforms.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Super Member
Reply to  MarineLayer

You seem pretty emotionally invested in the payroll.

Simba
Member
2 months ago
Reply to  MarineLayer

Without being inside the locker room, it is kinda hard to point a finger of blame. We don’t really know what conversations he had with training and medical staff.

A lot of this medical stuff is not made public – for years people in this community railed about Mathis playing time over Napoli. It was only years later when Nap had serious medical issues that it came out that his hip problems went back to his Angel playing days.

eyespy
Super Member
2 months ago
Reply to  Simba

Naps was roids. It wasn’t going to be disclosed at all.

eyespy
Super Member
2 months ago
Reply to  MarineLayer

If you are in pain, you go to the doctor. But what if a 1000% raise is in your near future, and being diagnosed will cancel the raise?

What to do?

MarineLayer
Trusted Member
2 months ago
Reply to  Twebur

So I was able to get behind a pay wall and the most disturbing part of his quotes was his admission that this is in fact a two-year injury, that he had it last year, did nothing about it, and it continued into this year and got worse. This again reminds me very much of what was happening with Pujols, albeit, a different part of his body. The Angels have provided almost no information about the chances of anything close to a full recovery or whether this will be a chronic condition that dogs him through the rest of his five year contract. Where is the communication between the player and the team? Very disturbing.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Super Member
Reply to  MarineLayer

It’s likely not like his hip was hurting for 2 years. I have a similar injury. Some days it doesn’t feel like anything at all, some days it feels like my joint is really stiff and aches a little. It took a long time to get to the point where it got past the point where I thought of it as more than a joint that gets stiff more often than the other side.

I’m not a baseball player so I’m sure my hip isn’t put through the same ringer as Rendon’s. I am fine if I rest it (no deadlifts) and stretch it and put heat on it. He is probably way past that. But it’s not the type of injury where you know you need surgery for 2 years. Most of the time it feels pretty manageable, like it will eventually go away, but his got worse.

Like said above, he’ll likely be fine after the surgery. This isn’t a travesty that needs avenging.

eyespy
Super Member
2 months ago

But for two years it was never getting better, just slowly getting worse. Hush-hush before the big payday.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Super Member
Reply to  eyespy

Did he say it was hurting him three seasons ago in DC? Before he signed his deal? While he was having a monster season? Or is that just what you want him to have said? I thought he meant it was hurting him last season and got worse this season.

It was probably less like daddy issues, where it’s a constant burning pain that you just can’t ignore or let go of that seeps into your every thought like a desert thirst. Like I said above, it was probably intermittent and ignorable a lot of the time, then it got worse, possibly in tandem with other injuries exacerbating it. Slowly growing worse inside him until it crippled him…. like envy, but a hip impingement instead of an over indulged character flaw.

eyespy
Super Member
2 months ago

ML was saying behind the paywall Rendon sounded like he was hurting two years ago.

From the article:

Speaking to the media for the first time since the injury was announced last week, Rendon said Thursday that he had been feeling something in his hip all season, and to a lesser degree last season.

Why not three?

I would say that I have a pretty big threshold for pain. Lots of people do. I’m sure athletes do. If you played sports, you probably played through some injuries. I don’t get evaluated for every ache and pain. Some linger.

You are “living” through your, I am assuming here, undiagnosed hip impingement, that might be of the caliber of a World Series Champions injury. In the beginning, working through it, but things WILL get WORSY. Maybe in one, maybe in two, possibly in three years it gets real bad, and you are going to changes employers. Would you say something while being evaluated for the new job if the only way to know was for you to bring it up?

If he says after the signing it was two. Who is to say it didn’t start earlier? Like you are saying, nagging in the beginning. But maybe Tony did get injured, more than an ouch, and played through it. Word Series and all. Nothing about money yet. There is a once-in-a-lifetime goal to be had here.

Why wouldn’t Tony hide it in the beginning, or at anytime? Three years ago he would hide it so his competition could not take advantage of it, or get benched to heal his aches and pains. Less than two years ago, why wouldn’t he hide it?

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“It took me three years to figure this out with the help of trained professionals. I’m so glad they, and with me telling them that my hip does hurt. We, finally figured it out.” is something like I am hearing from Rendon.

Gitch, for your hip impingement, before it gets too bad, and to maybe prolong or just maybe avoid surgery altogether. Start stretching. really stretching. From the top of your head, all the way to the bottoms of your feet.

Your hips are centrally located on your body, and every muscle, joint, and tendon, affects how your hips function. The more you expand your stretching, the better your balance will be, and the less stress will be put on your hips. This will, hopefully, alleviate the pain, and may even induce healing.

I thought you were a pitcher, and played some more than competitive ball.

Please stop trying to play POINT/COUNTER-POINT so much. Just choose a side already, and stick to your guns mate. Be truthful to yourself, and your stories will be naturally consitant.

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Cowboy26
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2 months ago
Reply to  eyespy

My only counterpoint to this is Max Stassi. That dude had 2 bad hips and never realized the extent they affected his game. I’m sure he’s happy he finally got both hip procedures done. Lets hope Rendon has the same success regardless of what (second base) he knew and when he knew it. (Third base)

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  Cowboy26

I’m still trying to figure out which topics I keep changing my position on…

Cowboy26
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2 months ago
Reply to  MarineLayer

Yes but in Pujols case it was a 9-1/2 year injury.

Designerguy
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2 months ago

I happened to be in Dyersville IA over the July 4 weekend, and stopped by the Field of Dreams location.

I’ve been to thousands of movie locations, and not one of them had the same impact on me as standing on the pitching mound of that baseball field.

I stood there for a few minutes, thinking how I wish I could play catch with my dad again, or that my two boys were there with me, and we could play catch.

While it might be just another baseball diamond, there is a magical quality to it.

Gorbachav5
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2 months ago
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I have family in Iowa and during a trip to see them five or six years ago we took a journey up to the Field of Dreams site in Iowa. It wasn’t at all what I expected in that it was exactly what I expected. I know that makes no sense, but I was expecting it to be an over-produced tourist trap with lots of signs and fences and a disappointing lack of things to do.

Instead, it was just a baseball field that looked exactly like it did in the movie. We got to run the bases and play catch and even pitch off the mound a little bit, while others did the same. I had a catch with my Dad as well as my three sons and we took a picture on the bleachers and out by the corn. There was a souvenir stand, which we visited, of course, but it was completely accessible, which was wonderful. I loved every minute of it.

Designerguy
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2 months ago

I continue to be outraged over society’s need for pants!

I go to the store, and the sign out front says “No Shirt. No Shoes. No Service.” Go in without pants, they complain and ask me to leave.

This aggression will not stand, man.

DowningDude
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2 months ago
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This comment was not flagged … it was “thonged”

Designerguy
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2 months ago
Reply to  DowningDude

Rally? I mean, really?

MarineLayer
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2 months ago
Reply to  Designerguy

The no shirt part of it is what has me up in arms.

eyespy
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2 months ago
Reply to  MarineLayer

I strictly wear tank tops. It’s mah rights. The 2nd amendment allows me to.

Charles Sutton
Editor
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2 months ago
Reply to  eyespy

Ahhh! The right to bare arms.

red floyd
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2 months ago

Re: the political BS:

Is there a way to add a “Flag” button like the old site had? Would make it easier for the staff to find such items without having to dig for them.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  red floyd

Re: Political BS:

I am outraged by your lack of support for my outrage and I am very concerned about CtPG lack of concern for my concerns.

Senator_John_Blutarsky
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2 months ago

I agree with Red Floyd Johnson and Gitcho Johnson.

red floyd
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2 months ago

Senator_John_Blutarsky Jonshon is right about Gitcho Johnson being right!

Designerguy
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2 months ago
Reply to  red floyd

Ain’t no sidewindin’ cracker croaker gonna change my mind

Twebur
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2 months ago
Reply to  Designerguy

Please don’t use the word cracker😀……..even if it’s only about eating a Ritz…..with Velveeta Spray Can Cheese…….pant-less on your couch.

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Designerguy
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2 months ago
Reply to  Twebur

Gotta admit, thought. It’s a great mental image.

You’ll never get it out our head this weekend.

So there.

DowningDude
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2 months ago
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gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Great. Flagging…. the solution that has made the internet so much bitter… better.

I like Jeff’s idea. Just ignore the political stuff the way I ignore traffic signs.

Twebur
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2 months ago

We should use the NFL rule book when flagging someone’s comment, yards become minutes off the site.

Going forward, see the infraction, flag it, state the penalty like a head referee.

Unnecessary roughness on gitchogritch, 15 yards (minutes off site)
aggressive confrontation about vaccinations.

And of course, gitchogritch has a right to throw his flag and have his penalty reviewed by site managers.

Or have the site managers create a virtual NHL style penalty box….top of the page, list those in the box with a running clock…….keep the box stocked with virtual towels, water and maybe some trail mix.

red floyd
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2 months ago
Reply to  DowningDude

Some of us suffer from old age. (cue the snark from Mia)

red floyd
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2 months ago
Reply to  red floyd

And looking for a *HIDDEN* flag icon is not intuitive (before I dropped my masters work due to the Northridge quake, I was working on HCI (human/computer interaction).

eyespy
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2 months ago
Reply to  DowningDude

Those two names are very spot-on examples for the flag icon. Go to practice peepo

DowningDude
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2 months ago
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red floyd
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2 months ago
Reply to  DowningDude

I find this comment to be offensive.

DowningDude
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2 months ago
Reply to  red floyd

I’m attempting to disengage from confrontational commenting. I do respect your opinion about my comment.

eyespy
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2 months ago
Reply to  red floyd

I wish it could pitch

Eric_in_Portland
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2 months ago
Reply to  DowningDude

“I find this comment to be offensive” should also be a facebook option. Instead they’ve got meaningless things like “repetitive”. Anyway I hope you don’t find my comments offensive. I bet they’re repetitive, though, consisting of “come on, Gump” and “of course a double play”. I should have macros for those.

eyespy
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2 months ago
Reply to  DowningDude

so beeg