Ohtani, Upton & Iglesias provide the firepower in Angels close loss

Angels 5 Indians 6

According to Fangraphs, the Indians had an 88% chance to win this game after their season high 5-run first inning. Jose Ramirez smashed a 2 run homer and Andrew Heaney threw 47 pitches.

Let’s also not forgot about this mess of a play that turned a routine ground ball into a double and 2 runs scored:

Heaney settled down and got out of the 2nd with no damage and only 16 pitches. But the 5 run 1st would come back to haunt them.

Who is still here just for the Ohtani bombs??

After a scoreless 3rd, Heaney had already clocked 81 pitches and was relieved by Jaime Barria who held the Indians scoreless – keeping the Angels in this on and allowed them to do this:

And this:

When Iglesias homered to tie the game, the Angels had turned their chance of winning all the way around from 12% to 59%. A huge comeback if they could hold it, but we’ve all seen this store before. The Angels had logged 21 outs in a row with no run scored and all that was for naught when Alex Claudio entered the game.

Josh Naylor’s took Claudio’s 2-out 75MPH changeup and placed it just over the yellow line in right field, and just out of reach of a poorly timed Taylor Ward leap. Game over.

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Chap24
Trusted Member
3 years ago

On a side note…Curious what baseball t.v. ratings are. I’ve honestly never seen umpiring this bad in my life behind the plate for both sides. The hitters have no chance at times. Super painful to watch. Theres no such thing as having a great eye anymore. If it’s not in the dirt or above the neck it’s most likely a strike. Crazy.

matthiasstephan
Super Member
3 years ago
Reply to  Chap24

Quite a few of Trout’s K’s came on balls. Maybe his ‘I can’t see the ball here’ is really that the umps are just worse this year.

JackFrost
Super Member
3 years ago

I totally agree. Mike has always had an excellent eye. And there is
no way he could have logged the walk numbers and OBP he has without a truly great eye.

His plate discipline up to this point has been at the level of all-time great, and I don’t believe he would have this many K’s looking if the strike zone was not being pretty consistently abused and manipulated.

Last edited 3 years ago by JackFrost
Jeff Joiner
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3 years ago

Defense matters. On a night when Heaney was struggling Goose gave up 2 runs on a routine play and extended the inning.

If that one play is made, we win

Great performance by Barria. Epic buttercup by Claudio.

WallyChuckChili
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3 years ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

Philly G screwed the pooch

red floyd
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3 years ago

I hate Evil Heaney

Mia
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Mia
3 years ago

The Angels don’t just lose, they raise it to an art form.

Last edited 3 years ago by Mia
Senator_John_Blutarsky
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John Henry Weitzel
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3 years ago

Heaney makes me sad

Eric_in_Portland
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3 years ago

ok, I’ll place this here. Marsh 2 for 5, Adell 3 for 5. I don’t know much about Andrew Wantz. He pitched 4 scoreless innings in relief for the win.

Chap24
Trusted Member
3 years ago

Nah..I’m having too much fun watching the Versatile Rojas, Lagares and Ward absolutely crap the bed at the plate every night…”but but but they can move around great in the outfield!” The freakin HaloWay man! We’ll see them up when we’re 15 games out in Sept…fun times.

eyespy
Super Member
3 years ago
Reply to  Chap24

what else can we run out there? a geriatric catcher? The other two players on the bench are hurting.

If Arte would support the team a little, we might be able to develop our own players

Chap24
Trusted Member
3 years ago
Reply to  eyespy

Yea. Arte is the key blame here. But I cant blame him for giving Fletch money and watching him become a trash bucket at the plate. Or paying Rendon to watch him be more concerned about his pose after every swing and miss than being the star he’s paid to be. Nobody expected that. My frustration is this team besides Ohtani is hard to watch so bring up the youngsters who will be better than who is out there now. Even last years Adell will be more fun to watch than this! At least I got some laughs out of it..🤷🏽‍♂️

JackFrost
Super Member
3 years ago
Reply to  Chap24

Let’s take it easy on Fletch and not call him “trash.” It has only been a third of the season, and even if he continues to hover around .250 or ..260 and stays there, remember that even good players have off-years. If he doesn’t recover in 2021 I would bet good money he would come back strong next full season. Baseball is like this. Not every player kicks ass every year like Mike Trout.

Fletch can play this game and he’ll show that again. Promise.

eyespy
Super Member
3 years ago
Reply to  JackFrost

It’s like something is missing in the water. The fun flavor is missing. COVID sucks, and it has to be affecting this team that was doing so good at being healthy about it.

The good players are stressing out

matthiasstephan
Super Member
3 years ago
Reply to  JackFrost

Plus, we don’t know how long he has had the nagging injury.

Chap24
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3 years ago
Reply to  JackFrost

To be clear I’m not calling him a trash bucket as a whole or player. Just that he’s batting like one. (Yes I know I couldn’t touch a 96mph fastball if itd save my life) just a frustrated fan…I know the value he brings especially on defense. Just nuts seeing these dudes get paid and nose dive so often. But I’m hoping he turns it around too…👍🏼

eyespy
Super Member
3 years ago
Reply to  Chap24

You can blame him for those contracts. They are contracts to attract fans to the gates. Arte watches the ESPN. Arte sees names. Arte recognizes names during the off-season. Arte wants names, up in lights.

Fletch is Arte’s name, getting shout outs on the ESPN. He wants Fletch to be up in lights, on billboards for all to see. Gives Fletch some good money early. We will wait and see.

Arte is involved in signing the names to the team, maybe too involved. The GM, now Perry Minasaian, gets to fill in the blanks of the roster. The manager of the team keeps butting in and asking for certain players for Perry Minasaian to sign. Now Perry Minasaian needs to cover for these strange requests, and still fill in the blanks, with money. Because we have, or unable to trade any of the players that we have. We need them, and nobody wants them.

And that is how an MLB team is built badly.

Eric_in_Portland
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3 years ago
Reply to  Chap24

I don’t think either Marsh or Adell is ready for the majors. I mention what they did tonight only to be enthusiastic about what they might do down the line. I’d be excited to see Marsh up but if he’s not ready he’d bomb out like Adell did last year. I’d prefer to have them get totally comfortable at Salt Lake.

Chap24
Trusted Member
3 years ago

Yea I get it man. Just want something to be excited a out again. Well besides Ohtani. Just feel like watching the youngins take their bumps on a losing team in Anaheim is better than hearing about them taking their bumps in Salt Lake while we watch journeymen fail badly every night on a losing team in Anaheim.

Angels2020Champs
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3 years ago

Trunbull throwing a no-no currently, Padres v Rockies are tied and some other teams are playing in the AL west.

As far as the Angels…
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eyespy
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3 years ago

The Tabbies are taking their time batting in the 9th

eyespy
Super Member
3 years ago

I’m blacked out on MLBatBAT for all four of the remaining games

UtahAlumnus
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3 years ago
Reply to  eyespy

Dumb

Angels2020Champs
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3 years ago
Reply to  eyespy

Out I just get Dodgers blacked out which is annoying enough

eyespy
Super Member
3 years ago

I had a total of 12 teams that I couldn’t watch on the atBAT app tonight

red floyd
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3 years ago
Reply to  eyespy

Blackout rules are so f***ing stupid, especially right now with COVID restrictions.

And REALLY for you, Spy. I mean, do they expect you to just hop on a plane to go to the game?

Stupid, stupid, stupid!!!

Last edited 3 years ago by red floyd
eyespy
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3 years ago
Reply to  red floyd

There is that bridge, and I do know how to swim silly

MikeSalmon
Super Member
3 years ago

Turnbull did it: 5th no-hitter of the season so far.
Mariners batting .199 with 2 outs in the 9th this season.
2nd time they’ve been no-hit this season. (Already)
Ohtani: next w/a no-no?

eyespy
Super Member
3 years ago
Reply to  MikeSalmon

DerPoto, ruins again

FungoAle
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3 years ago
Reply to  MikeSalmon

117 pitches, the pitch count managers ( you know who you are) would have never let them at happen!

H.T. Ennis
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3 years ago
Reply to  FungoAle

0/30 managers in MLB would have pulled Turnbull tonight, had everything played out the exact same way.

There are varying levels of risk/reward in any pitching decision.

MikeSalmon
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3 years ago
Reply to  H.T. Ennis

I watched Lincecum’s first no-hitter (against Padres) and he threw 148 pitches. No way was he allowing Bochy to take him out.

eyespy
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3 years ago
Reply to  MikeSalmon

Bochy’s cap weighs more than theFreak

FungoAle
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3 years ago
Reply to  MikeSalmon

Timmmmaay! The Freak! Man, he was tough for a few years. Ran into a dead arm. aka Weaver. They chose not to roid it up.

MikeSalmon
Super Member
3 years ago
Reply to  FungoAle

Turnbull went into the 9th with only 1 walk, and walked another guy in the 9th. His stuff was filthy. It was the Mariners, but still: he deserved it.

What’s the MLB batting average now? .240?

HRs or Ks. That’s largely our team. Look at how the A’s managed to win in the bottom of the 9th against the Trashcans tonight:

It’s 5-5

Kemp grounds out (1 out)
Canha walks
Canha takes the extra base on a single to CF.
Laureano hits a walk-off sac fly.

All of that “olde timey” baseball is what the Angels don’t/can’t/won’t do.

Yesterday we had what? 2nd and 3rd with no outs and didn’t get anyone in?

FungoAle
Super Member
3 years ago
Reply to  MikeSalmon

Mariners have a horrid line-up. Wonder how much more rope Dipoto and Service get. Greatly benefited by the Cano trade but not much else to show. They have a better than average farm but not we all know some prospects are just “guys.”

A’s are a very nice team. Play to their park very well. I don’t hate them like the other division teams.

eyespy
Super Member
3 years ago
Reply to  FungoAle

DerPoto ruined that team like ruined ours. By trading anything of value in the farm for what he thinks he can rejuvenate into a pitching staff. JerJer thinks he knows about pitching, but knows nothing about hitting, and building a team.

eyespy
Super Member
3 years ago
Reply to  FungoAle

It was a no-hitter. He didn’t have any problems during the whole game. There was a big wait during the bottom of the 9th, but the Tabbies added two more runs, so, Turnbull would be allowed to let in one run on hits if he gave up a solo shot first. It was all his game.

You need to understand the staff. Pitch counts are not everything. I also think time of play is a factor. Our pitcher today is at his best a two-hour pitcher. He also had a very long first inning.

History shows that he was going to fall apart pretty soon and was going to start his third time around the order in the fourth. He was not cruising along, and the road ahead was bumpy. Joe pulled him at the right time.

He got shelled early, then took some control, and was ending his day on a better note than when he started. You don’t want him to end every start as a losing victim do you?

JackFrost
Super Member
3 years ago
Reply to  eyespy

Wow, can’t believe you actually give Joe some credit here!

And I agree BTW. Heaney WOULD have let more runs in had he been allowed to pitch deeper. He used too much gas/energy in the 1st.

Joe actually handled the pitchers/pen well tonight.

Most of these bullpen HR’s allowed lately have been shit change-ups of 75-85 mph (like the Claudio HR surrendered to Naylor) or hanging curveballs.

Our relievers throw WAY too many off-speed pitches and they’re easily hit out of the ballpark.

Folks, this is not Joe Maddon’s fault. If we gave him the arms in the Rays pen you’d be calling him a genius.

He has a bunch of noodle arms like Slegers, Cishek and Claudio. These guys don’t have good heat so their crap off-speed stuff gets hit out of the ballpark. We see it time and again.

You know why Karinchak doesn’t give up bombs? Right, cause he can blow a 98 mph fastball by hitters. That doesn’t make Francona a better manager than Joe, it means he has better pitchers! Duh.

Mayers and Raisel are exceptions on our team. But two arms do not a bullpen make. And C-Rod, we all know what happened to him.. Or do we ???

Last edited 3 years ago by JackFrost
eyespy
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3 years ago
Reply to  JackFrost

Blind squirrels and nuts managing

UtahAlumnus
Trusted Member
3 years ago

Whatever, baseball is stupid.

Oooh look, A’s Astros tied bottom 8.

brb

WallyChuckChili
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3 years ago

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