LA Angels Tuesday News Crash- Stove Heating Up

The hot stove is heating up. As noted by commenters including Steelgolf yesterday, the San Diego Padres traded for Blake Snell late Sunday. Shortly afterward they also signed second baseman Ha-Seong Kim.  Now they are in “deep talks” with the Cubs about trading for Yu Darvish.  Willson Contreras or Victor Caratini may also go along with Yu Darvish. 

Trevor Bauer now says he is not considering any one-year offers.  Who here seriously believes he is going to get shot in the nuts by a paintball gun over this?  Now that Blake Snell is off the table, Joe Musgrove is drawing a lot of interest from various teams. The not-so-hot stove is also heating up. JC Ramirez signed with the Fubon Guardians of the Chinese Professional Baseball League. Dustin Garneau signed a minor league deal with the Detroit Tigers.

 Angels Related Links

There are not many Angels related links today. It is unnerving watching the Padres grab up all the chips while the Angels seem to have fallen asleep at the wheel. Let’s hope Perry has been busy laying groundwork for trades and acquisitions later this week. Anthony Rendon landed at number 11 of Joel Reuter’s top 25 third basemen of 2025, especially because of his hit tool.  This recipe is Jaye Maddon’s recipe for Almond Butter Cocoa Cups.  It can be made low glycemic for diabetics.  BoyWithApple has once again provided us with an interesting FanPost. This time he explores use of OPS against as a means of evaluating pitcher performance.

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Eric_in_Portland
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3 years ago

we did sign Juan Graterol to a minor league contract.

Senator_John_Blutarsky
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I guess Perry is going to WWWWG at catcher…..

Eric_in_Portland
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3 years ago

Hansel Robles signed. I just read it. Like two minutes ago. I’ve already forgotten who he signed with. Maybe the Twins.

steelgolf
Super Member
3 years ago

The Cubs are picking up 5 million of Darvish’s salary. Padres should be good for the next 3 years +.

Brent
Super Member
3 years ago

The Angels hired a new GM, right? Maybe it was just a dream and that’s why no moves to get a pitcher or two have happened yet.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  Brent

I think it’s all a conspiracy to piss you off.

Eric_in_Portland
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3 years ago
Reply to  Brent

To be fair, not too many pitchers have been signed.

JakeTaylor
Trusted Member
3 years ago
Reply to  Brent

I was asking myself that very same question. Was hoping we would have been the ones to work out a deal with the Cubs, not only for Darvish but Contreras as well.

Guest
3 years ago

Happy birthday Devon White (58). He and Chili Davis were the first two Jamaican born men to play in the Major Leagues, although now that the Negro Leagues are MLB, I wonder if that is still true.

JakeTaylor
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3 years ago
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Happy Birthday, Devo!

One of my favorite memories watching him play was in ’89. I was at the game vs. the Red Sox with friends and we watched him steal 2nd, 3rd and then home.

Cowboy26
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3 years ago
Reply to  JakeTaylor

I remember watching that game. It was like everyone in the whole stadium knew he was going to do it and there wasn’t a damn thing the Red Sox could do to stop it.

Jeff Joiner
Editor
Legend
3 years ago

Moves like yesterday’s show just how far from elite the Angels really are. We were hoping for a trade for one of Darvish or Snell and even then our thin farm would be pretty much vaporized.

The Padres now have both. I don’t think even a Bauer/Musgrove combo would top that. Oh, and the Padres have a better farm system with plenty of young arms on the way up.

And as much as I laud the Padres, the Dodgers and Braves are in the same boat.

FungoAle
Super Member
3 years ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

This is far from over. I’d take a contract friendly’s Musgrove/Gray/Castillo or more glamorous Marquez. Maybe we can pry an emerging arm like Corbin Burnes or Woodruff from the Brew Crew. Take the salary savings and send the Flubbies 4 prospects between 17-25 rank and get Rizzo and Contreras. Rizzo comes off the books is 2021, Contreras 2022. I’ll go back to hammering my Ale now.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  FungoAle

This is a pipe dream…. getting say Marquez/Castillo and then Corbin Burnes…. this would cost MORE in prospects than what the Padres just traded. We don’t have that. The thing is, we don’t NEED it either. It would be nice, but the Padres, along with the Braves and Doyers, are STACKED. I think that’s what Jeff is talking about. But our team can/needs to add what it can and we can be really competitive with added pitching…. we just won’t be in the same luxury boat as those three teams.

So you are right, though we aren’t gonna add a bunch of pitching via trade because our system is thinner, it is far from a forgone conclusion that the team can’t be any good if they trade for a starter and sign a guy, plus say Ohtani and Canning turn out to be solid and Iglesias is Iglesias. I doubt we even get both, but if we got say Bauer/Musgrove or Gray/Happ/Anderson/Bundy/Ohtani/Canning/Heaney we’d have a shot at matching up against most of our AL competition in a play off series.

Still, with our standard payroll, it’s more likely we trade for a guy like Gray and sign a guy like Happ…. then maybe add a scrap heaper and extend Bundy.

FungoAle
Super Member
3 years ago

Yeah, understand and agree, our system is thin .Suspect that is an argument to keep the likes of Marsh, Adams, Paris and C-Rod and I really think we are stuck with Adell until he proves his previous ranking. But we should consider moving one of them along with Detmers and go for it. It is just not the climate anymore to wait and see.

While pitching is still the priority, signing cheaper arms would allow potential savings to be utilized to beef up the offense (or pen) to make it more balanced while adding certainty. I am ooooook with giving Walsh the job to see if he can sustain his last years 5-week stint but not catching. Screw that. And would be a mistake to count on Upton and a platoon job of Ward/Schebler as our corner OFs. It is probably where we are headed but hoping Perry keeps his options open.

These teams that are in a clear salary cut-back mode, might be an opportunity too good to pass up and snipe some talent. Reason I mentioned Cubs is the Hoyer seemed a bit futile in his Darvish deal, we might want to jump in and grab some leftovers. They clearly are taking prospects which are not top 10.

Yeah, we are not getting Marquez and sadly, Burnes. Eppler should have jumped in when Burnes was failing miserably in 2019. No reason for Brewers to trade him as they look to be the odds-on division winners to me.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  FungoAle

Well, the trading prospects thing is tricky. The hard truth is that we don’t have a Davies to trade, and all of those #13-18 type prospects the Padres traded would have been in our top 10. Wilcox, the throw in kid in the Snell trade, would have been our #1 pitching prospect.

And yet, I have also seen teams make trades, even trades with the Angels, that surprise me, where particular GMs and scouts obviously grade various prospects higher than I do. I doubt we’ll land anyone that the Braves or Dodgers want in a trade, but I won’t be surprised if we get at least one starter via trade this winter.

It’s just not going to be as big a name as a lot of people around here seem to be wishing for…. maybe Gray if we pick up his whole contract, or Musgrove or a guy like Turnbull from the Tigers. Honestly, I think we’d see solid improvement from our team if we did that and then signed a guy like Quintana or Homer Bailey. Maybe nab Caseli at catcher too. I know people have visions of Castillo and sugar plumbs dancing in their heads at this point, but even just those moves plus the moves already made would make for a pretty solid team baring injuries and collapses.

Senator_John_Blutarsky
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The Rays, Phillies, and Dodgers are in combination on a three-team deal, according to Marc Topkin of the Tampa Bay Times. As part of the swap, left-hander Jose Alvarado will go from the Rays to the Phillies, and minor league first baseman Dillon Paulson and a player to be named later will go from the Dodgers to Tampa Bay. The Phils announced that left-hander Garrett Cleavinger has been sent to Los Angeles to complete the Dodgers’ end of the trade.

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2020/12/rays-phillies-dodgers-swing-three-team-trade.html

GrandpaBaseball
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3 years ago

Thankfully within just a couple of days this most lovely of years will pass on and usher in what promises to a better year touching many reasons of what will make it a better year rather than what made 2020 such a bad year.

The political landscape has changed along with the world of how we conduct business. The sports landscape has changed and depending on the sport it has changed drastically.

In the many facets of Major League Baseball is how we revere our past and former heros and how we celebrate their accomplishments by having a hallowed place called the Major League Baseball Hall of Fame. Here is a resting spot for the careers of the best of the best and every summer the best of the best gather to honor the the new inductees and once again nostalgia is king in our hearts and memories.

In just a few short weeks we fans find out who the MLBWA have chosen to join those former ball players and tall figures in ours hearts and memories and become immortal themselves with a bronze bust and plate detailing their accomplishments and to become a celebrated hero to never become forgotten.

Tradition is and has been that the new and the former heroes unite one day a year in the summer in the quaint town in upstate New York for a weekend of celebration of present and past. We the fans enjoy this celebration from afar at home on the television or on the grass hill side to see and hear the blending of adoration and of overwhelming gratitude and remembrance of all the greatness on the stage and celebrate theirs highlights with them.

But in the year of Covid-19 we lost an unprecedented amount of players who had long careers and whom themselves were the heroes to millions of fans. These players will not join the newly elected any longer but will as be remembered by theirs fans and by those who celebrate the greatest sport of all North America in the Major League Baseball Hall of Fame.

Those that we lost in 2020 are Al Kaline in April passed and who had over 3000 hits and the improbable winning of the 1968 World Series against the Bob Gibson led Cardinals. Then there came the loss of the National League MVP, Lou Brock. Lou Brock was the best career stolen base artist as ever was breaking TY Cobb’s career record and when he retired was the best of all time. Then at the end of August (31st) we learned of the passing of the legend Tom “Tom Terrific” Seaver and to never forget the ’69 Amazing Mets and their passing the Cubs in September and then winning the World Series against the Orioles. And then in a span of 9 days came more heartbreak with the announcements the passings of Bob Gibson who because of such greatness in 1968 that MLB lowered the pitching mound so that batters would have a better chance. He was a fierce competitive player as there ever was. Next we endured the passing of the Chairman of the board, Whitey Ford. The Greatest Yankee pitcher of all time. Although this party animal was at his best in the World Series he once won as many as 25 games in a season (’63).Then came the news of a two time MVP, Joe Morgan. The best player that played on the Big Red Machine and had the unique “Chicken Wing” flap of the left elbow as his timing mechanism and at 5 foot 7 inches hit for power, average and disrupted pitchers as he could steal a base as easy as Lou Brock. Then just after Christmas came the bitter news of the passing of Phil Niekro, the knuckleball specialist who once won twenty one games while losing twenty one season but did pitch until he was 47 years old.

That was the heavy pullers, the Hall of Famers but there were many more very good players who left us way to early too, such as;

Richie Allen an AL MVP

Glenn Beckert long time Cub 2b

Frank Bolling a Brave 2b

Horace Clark long time Yankee 2b that never was on a World Series winning team

Tony Fernandez a slick fielding SS on a WS winner in Toronto

Jay Johnstone, 20 year career, one of the funniest players ever, played for both LAA & LAD
Sweet Lou Johnson played for both LAA & LAD

Mike McCormick the ’67 NL CY winner.

Lindy McDaniel 21 year career relief pitcher

Dennis Menke played for mostly Astros and Braves

Bob Oliver first Royals player to hit a HR

Ron Perranoski long time relief pitcher with LAD and Twins

Tony Taylor played 2b, 3b, SS, with mostly Phillies but at the end of career with LAA

Claudell Washington A’s outfielder 17 year career

Bob Watson came up with Astros and played 19 yrs the later a Yankees GM

Jimmy “Toy Cannon” Wynn also came up w/ Astros and played for LAD had a 15 career.

So many more could be listed but all added to the game of MLB, so as 2020’s 60 game season will be remembered so will those we lost, so RIP fellows you will not be lost in time as long as your fans survive and remind the generation next of what we saw and remember.

For myself I saw everyone of these guys play the game at one game or another and there are busts in the HOF in case I either start to forget or pass on myself. Gosh how I love this game, but it is in the players that make the game what it is, so special.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend

Also, the Generalisimo Francisco Franco is still dead.

Designerguy
Super Member
3 years ago

Doctor’s say his condition has taken a turn for the worst.

Commander_Nate
Member
Trusted Member
3 years ago

The Padres don’t need Gore anymore after yesterday. Trade Simulator says Adell for him and Myers straight up gets it done. GMPM, let’s go!

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Legend
Reply to  Commander_Nate

Would’nt the Frairs keep Gore and jettison Richards instead?

Cowboy26
Legend
3 years ago

They already have. GRich is a FA. NFW the Pad’s trade Gore.

Rallymanatee
Trusted Member
3 years ago
Reply to  Commander_Nate

As in Mike Mayers? We cant keep trading relievers though. We are still short like 3 or 4 aren’t we?