LA Angels Tuesday News Crash: RIP Sandy

2 hours ago

Reply to BannedInLA

BUT. How bout hit well, pitch well + Ersty?

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BannedInLA

1 hour ago

Reply to gitchogritchoffmypettis

I’d prefer Ersty over Pujols. Hence my 5% hedge.

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Roy Hobbs

2 hours ago

Reply to BannedInLA

Funny, Bill James said Joe Torre was an awful strategic baseball manager. But then he went to the Yankees and all he had to do was manage personalities and he had Mariano Rivera, and now he’s a HOF manager. If Mike Scioscia had been the Yankee Manager, I believe he would have done as well or better because strategy didn’t really matter.

I do think that managers matter and good managers can make a big difference but talent matters a lot more. And if you’re like the Halos and are short on talent the manager doesn’t matter much. If Albert is the manager, I have to believe it will be more entertaining than the guys we’ve had, no matter how many games we lose.

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AngelsFanInHell

1 hour ago

Reply to Roy Hobbs

I believe that Scioscia couldn’t manage his way out of a paper bag. Maddon drove that team.

I was ecstatic that Maddon came back, but the ArteChrist’s foolishness drove him away.

Halo fans can’t have nice things.

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Jeff Joiner

4 seconds ago

Reply to BannedInLA

Management definitely impacts wins and losses. It’s like blackjack, you play the odds routinely and over time it plays out in your favor.

No amount of managerial magic will overcome a lack of talent, but a lack of managerial acumen means you won’t get the most out of your talent.

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2002heaven

3 hours ago

WTF…. field managers don’t matter in MLB anymore. Dave Roberts is the best manager because he does what the front office wants. Get over it dammit….

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BannedInLA

2 hours ago

Reply to 2002heaven

Mostly concur. MLB managers and their perceived impact (+/-) is largely overrated. It’s about talent, health & player development by the assistants IMHO.

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2 hours ago

Reply to 2002heaven

Ray Montgomery would be the best Manager in baseball with the dogers roster.

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Born_in_59

1 hour ago

Reply to WallyChuckChili

If you just mean talent on the field, I disagree that Montgomery would be consider the best manager. There’s a whole lot more behind the Dodgers success than the players on the field. That organization does a lot of scouting and analytics that help them win games. While I don’t think Roberts is a tactical genius, he does well managing personalities and keeping the team focused where they need to be.

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4 hours ago

Why would anyone want to come to Anaheim to end a chance to ever manage again in the ML’s after managing here? Is there really any other team interested in hiring Poolhose, could be that I’m being a bit harsh about him coming back here but I just don’t think so at all. Plus, he just never was a favorite of mine because I always suspected ‘roid use and lying about his age. Seems a long, long time ago that Sosh was here, but he certainly had a clue about what he was doing while the talent was here, which is more than we can claim for Arte and crew.

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Jeff Joiner

3 hours ago

Reply to GrandpaBaseball

Albert 100% lied about his age and his own comments prove it over and over again.

The first job is generally the hardest to get. GM’s and managers will come to the Angels primarily to get that experience on their resumes. Everybody knows the organization is doomed from the owner’s suite so failure gets blamed on Arte. Meanwhile, if the team happens to succeed you look like a genius.

DiPoto and Eppler both have other front office gigs. Ausmus is the bench coach for the Yankees. Phil Nevin has a front office job with the White Sox.

Failure here is a given. But getting to put down that experience helps land other jobs. Pujols could be under consideration by his beloved Cardinals, but they’ll want him to make his mistakes here first.

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FungoAle

3 hours ago

Reply to Jeff Joiner

Hoping Ollie Marmol is let go so Albert can take the Cardinals over

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PedroCerrano

2 hours ago

Reply to Jeff Joiner

In my mind, the fountain of youth he found as a player in his last year in St Louis had to PED/HGH related. My conspiracy theory is that someone within in MLB whispered in his ear that he wasn’t “likely” to be tested. Guys don’t suddenly reverse years of decline.

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2 hours ago

Reply to PedroCerrano

I heard he was refreshed by the dogers.

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FungoAle

1 hour ago

Reply to PedroCerrano

Fact

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Born_in_59

1 hour ago

Reply to PedroCerrano

Against right-handed pitchers, Pujols was fairly consistent over his last three years while his success against left-handed pitchers climbed. Do PEDS help with one side over the other?

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Kevin

1 hour ago

Reply to PedroCerrano

Noted. This same principle appears to apply to various players in the playoffs and to those in certain cities. Anaheim isn’t one of them. Guys seem to come here as part of getting off anything they might have been taking.

BTW there have been three years since the 80s with 4 players over 50 HRs in the same season.

The McGwire-Sosa HR record season with PEDs.

The Barry Bonds PEDfest year.

This season.

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4 hours ago

Jerry’s Kids are on a mission from God. Snell is a better pitcher than I thought. That was a great pitched game. Both my teams lost yesterday, well just maybe the Jays can still comeback from 0-2. I still believe the Blue Crew will prevail.

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4 hours ago

Reply to GrandpaBaseball

Yeah. when he’s not hurt Snell is right up there in the top 5 starters. He’s filthy. It’s just he tends to win/compete for a Cy Young and then miss an entire season…

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4 hours ago

Reply to gitchogritchoffmypettis

Tru storey, well said. (You know me and my spelling.) 😅

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toad2065

4 hours ago

Reply to gitchogritchoffmypettis

Yeah, Dodgers have the money to spend on spare parts. 😫

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BannedInLA

3 hours ago

Reply to gitchogritchoffmypettis

Yup. The doyers had enough of a long runway (e.g., talented roster + drachmas) to take a high ceiling flier on Snell. Good for them, I guess.

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Jeff Joiner

4 hours ago

Reply to GrandpaBaseball

By pure stuff, Snell is great.

I think by pure stuff, Glasnow might be the best pitcher on that staff. The movement on his pitches is insane.

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BannedInLA

2 hours ago

Reply to Jeff Joiner

I was at the game in SD when Trout snapped his hamate bone and Snell was pitching that day. He only pitched 5-6 innings but, he was filthy.

That stadium is dope. I almost want to defect and be a Padres fan but, alas, I’m stupidly loyal.

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red floyd

2 hours ago

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You can be both. The Padres are my NL team because I’d go to games with Miss UCSD. But my heart remains with the Halos.

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2pints

1 hour ago

Reply to BannedInLA

I was also at that game. Love that stadium

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steelgolf

4 hours ago

I received an email informing me that Angels 2026 Ticket Packages are “ON SALE NOW”. Easy, easy. I don’t want everyone to crash their severs all rushing there at once. I suggest logging on during “off peak hours”.

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CAoldskoll

4 hours ago

Reply to steelgolf

LOL. I get that email and the live rep bugging me in January for seating packages. Sorry but no way. My Stub Hub account shows me at 16 games last year, all with heavily discounted seats. Only the premium promotions like the heritage jerseys you need to purchase directly from MLB dot com. I stand up and applaud the longtime season ticket holder shown on the big screen, truly dedicated (or wealthy).

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4 hours ago

Reply to steelgolf

Gawd. Worst job in entire MLB? Maybe.

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PedroCerrano

2 hours ago

Reply to gitchogritchoffmypettis

I picture Jack Lemon getting yelled at in Angels ticket sales back room. “Coffee is for closers, you losers!” The Glengary GlenRoss leads are all for the corporations who buy seats to gift to their corporate visitors.

Arte truly has an unfair advantage if only he understood how to exploit it and let his baseball people handle their stuff.

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3 hours ago

Reply to steelgolf

I just tried
They put me on the wait list.

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steelgolf

1 hour ago

Reply to WallyChuckChili

🤣🤣🤣

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5 hours ago

I am not super old. All I can say about Sandy Alomar is they should bring back those Angels uniforms he wore.

Here’s another goofy idea. If it happens it would need to just be random luck mixed in with me being wrong about a lot of the stuff I think won’t work with him but the Angel’s owners clearly think will work or won’t matter.

But what if just shrugging our shoulders and hiring Pujols gets us a head start on other teams this winter. There are things that MAY be an advantage to us. Start with Pujols being incredibly respected by players, especially Latin American players. Is that true, or true enough to matter for shit? I doubt it. But what if it is?

Does this mean maybe we sign a couple FAs that would not have come here otherwise? Not huge stars, but useful guys? Does this mean Denzer Guzman works his ass off this off season and becomes a good MLB infielder? Maybe Moore too?

Does hiring Pujols fast and getting a declaration of how the team will take action to be better this year on paper early help get players ready? Maybe help the FO get some players in here that fit that plan? Again. I doubt it. But it could happen.

One thing I do know. Albert has had a lot of experience when it comes to intimidating hitters having their ability snuffed out by pitchers. He knows A LOT of former players and coaches. Maybe he puts a good coaching staff together? And again, he does this early.

Does having Pujols around help Trout suck it up and hit instead of swing?

I’m not saying we’d win if this happens. But maybe we see meaningful improvements? I doubt this very much. I think all we’re doing is letting an ego steer the yacht for a little while because we are paying him 1M a year either way and, for some reason, they think he’ll fill seats for a few games maybe. But Pujols will be trying, in his way. I doubt he’s showing up to just eat cheese and talk loud. There are ways that this could work to the Angels benefit.

I seriously doubt it. But there are good possible outcomes to this move if the Angels make it.

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steelgolf

5 hours ago

Reply to gitchogritchoffmypettis

The answer is: Hiring Pujols just gives Arte “morning marketing wood” and maybe some monetary savings if he is utilizing the “personal services” money as his managing compensation.

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4 hours ago

Reply to steelgolf

That’s what I think is likely.

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milehigh

3 hours ago

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I wonder if the marketing team learned from Albert’s first go around and makes sure that “El Hombre” campaign doesn’t resurface. Did not go over well with Albert the first time.

Not saying I like Albert over Tori. I think both will not be happy with no contact offense.

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2 hours ago

Reply to milehigh

Will Albert be cool with each player grounding sharply to third 45% of the time? How bout warning track power?

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2 hours ago

Reply to gitchogritchoffmypettis

Albert was one of the best base stealers!

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BannedInLA

1 hour ago

Reply to WallyChuckChili

Truth.

Dude had zero business swiping bags late in his career but, due to his recognition and ability to get good jumps, he stole bases quite well – despite the lead in his shoes.

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CAoldskoll

5 hours ago

Reply to gitchogritchoffmypettis

Think you got something here. Hire a former superstar player to manage, change the uniforms. A sort of shakeup the image of the team. Out with tradition manager, change the red/white jerseys back to a navy blue/red? Maybe it could create a spark in the right direction? I guess we got nothing to lose at this point; being known as the ‘other’ LA team in red that finishes in last and is poorly managed by ownership.

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4 hours ago

Reply to CAoldskoll

I doubt there is any merit to what I think COULD happen. I was just trying to find stuff that has a 10% chance of being true and working for us.

I don’t like Pujols at all. Not as a manager. Not as a player. Not as a man. Maybe if he manages us I’ll see a bunch of stuff that changes my mind. What I’m much more likely to see is a lot more Reds, Sneks, Rays and Tigers games next year.

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3 hours ago

Reply to CAoldskoll

I wonder if we have a better record during throw back week and when we wear the city connects

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Jeff Joiner

5 hours ago

Sorry I let the board down with no gamethreads for the playoffs the last couple of days.

I’m scheduling the next few days now.

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5 hours ago

Reply to Jeff Joiner

Sigh. Did we really need threads for those games. When it comes down to it, if it’s Doyers/Mariners I’ll have to just wish the Mariners well (first time winners at least) and then barely pay attention. Again.

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Terry

10 hours ago

I remember when the Angels traded Bobby Knopp to the White Sox for Sandy Alomar in early 1969. I think Alomar continues to hold the Angels record for most consecutive games played. In two seasons with the Halos he led the majors in plate appearances and at bats. (Over 720 each season!)He was an all star in 1970, along with Jim Fregosi, Alex Johnson and Clyde Wright. He brought speed and base stealing to a team that lacked it. Mostly a singles hitter, he played good defense, which helped the team when they had such great pitchers like: Messerschmidt; Wright; Ryan and relievers like Ken Tatum. He was the second baseman who took the throw from Fregosi to turn the double play to lock down Wright’s no hitter against the A’s in July 1970, the first no hitter at Angels Stadium.
He was a solid player.
RIP Sandy.

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RexFregosi

10 hours ago

Reply to Terry

after a game in PS in 1972, he slipped me a couple baseballs after a ST game. Sears had a slogan at the time “you get more from a Kenmore”. I remember riding my 10-speed back home singing to myself “you get more from an Alomar”

definitely on the the best players on those early 70s teams.

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RexFregosi

9 hours ago

Reply to Terry

I picked up a hat for ‘Pioneerof the Nile’ eight years ago at the Derby. He was a great horse and ran 2nd in the 2009 Derby which was one of the best races of all time. Anyway he should have won the Debry, but he didn’t so he choked. But this hat is my favorite because on the side is stitched Triple Crown Sire.

He sired American Pharoah who won the first Triple Crown in decades.

Life lesson there: at a certain point, it’s not what you do, it’s what your kids do. Sandy had a couple of boys too – they have nice BRef pages too. What a legacy.

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red floyd

7 hours ago

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I was about six. And Alomar was the first Angel I got on a baseball card. So he instantly became my favorite.

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