LA Angels Weekend News Crash: Spoilers?

Welcome back to Weekend Links. Since I last wrote this column the Angels followed a series loss against the A’s with a series win against the Twins. Ultimately it was a 3-3 home stand against teams of similar talent and trajectory.

Now comes a 4 game set with Seattle. By the time this posts in the morning the first game will be complete and the Mariners will either be tied with the idle Astros or 1 full game back. The Rangers are lurking just a bit below.

In looking ahead at the schedule, the Angels play the Astros the last weekend of the season. So 7 of the remaining 16 games are against the top dogs in the division. The Angels can seriously spoil one or both campaigns depending on how they play against them.

All three of these teams have a series remaining against each other but the Angels are done with the Rangers.

And the intrigue really just starts there. Take a look at the Mets upcoming schedule and this week will greatly impact 3 clubs playoff chances. First the NY squad plays the Rangers then the Padres.

The NL could get nutty if we get lucky.

The Giants are up against a tough schedule, playing the Dodgers 7 times down the stretch. All of this opens the door a bit for the Reds. They have a pretty soft schedule lined up and if they simply stack wins while the Mets and Padres play each other they can gain ground on both.

In short, it is September and some races are close. Thankfully there’s the MLB package and a good remote control at both my home and office.

September is also a good time to take a look on the farm and see who is playing their way closer to MLB. George Klassen took the hill for the 24th time this week and spun a gem. An old scout once said if a player does something once he always has the ability to do it again. Klassen has thrown many good games. He just needs to get more consistent.

Ideally Klassen will be joined by other home grown studs. Catcher Juan Flores is the Angels most intriguing invitee to the Arizona Fall League. I know Jessica and Rex have each caught AFL games. I might head out there one year, but this won’t be it.

Klassen’s Trash Panda teammate Mitch Farris has gotten off to a nice start to his MLB career.

And in the stuff that really matters, Zach Neto is a good dude off the field. Logan O’Hoppe is another guy who is great in the community. To me, these are things that really matter and define character.

And how about the old man this week? Kyle Hendricks put up a gem on Tuesday night.

As for our Highlight of the Week, let’s go with the Angels “Heart and Hustle” award winner Zach Neto’s 2 run shot on Wednesday that was key to winning the Twins series.

From around baseball:

The Mets are melting down (it is September) and running out of time. Nobody is happy. Actually, I am. My dad worked hard (like in fields and waking at dawn to drive or repair big rigs) so when a guy like Cohen gets rich committing fraud I tend not to like him much.

While I keep talking about kids, the Blue Jays are riding a bunch of old pitchers to the playoffs. Score 1 for the old guys…and get off our lawns!

There’s been talk about adding Cody Bellinger around here. FanGraphs did a great deep dive on him that is your longish form reading for the weekend.

Enjoy your weekend and link what I missed. I’ll definitely watch Terence Crawford vs. Canelo tomorrow night. Crawford is my favorite fighter of this era and I’ve seen him live 3 times. So, friends and a fight party are on deck.

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Turk's Teeth
Editor
Super Member
25 minutes ago

We were talking yesterday about how the AFL crop this year (and recently) is uninspiring and less reflective of organizational top talent than other years. One top 30 guy in Flores – 19 yo defensive catcher toward the back of the list.

It was hilarious to read Ray Montgomery dodge and weave around this today:

“When it first started, it was like a finishing school,” Montgomery said. “And if you played in that, you were imminently going to play in the big leagues, probably the next year. You’d go there to file down some rough edges on some things you needed to work on before you came here.

I think now you get a combination of guys who’ve even played here and go there to go back and do some of those things. So, yeah, it’s an honor. I still think it’s a league that, you know, stands above the rest in terms of prospects to go and highlight what they can do.”

That’s some word salad there in the bolded part that basically amounts to: yeah, we’re sending some guys to do some things.

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
28 minutes ago

Kudos to Neto for being a good person. Your scout quote of if a player does something once he always has the ability to do it again Should definitely apply to Detmers. He’s tossed a no hitter and threw 6 consecutive dominant starts a couple of years ago. He should be a very good starting pitcher. They are wasting him.

Born_in_59
Trusted Member
22 minutes ago
Reply to  Roy Hobbs

Maybe they are wasting him, but after having problems last season maybe pitching in the MLB as a reliever was going to do more to get him on track than being a starter in the minors.

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
15 minutes ago
Reply to  Born_in_59

Could be.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend

Sticking to how I wish the Angels AAA team was not in SLC….

Is this a thing?

Tacoma – Mariners
Sacramento – Giants
Reno – D Backs
Las Vegas – A’s
Albuquerque – Rockies
SLC – Angels
El Paso – Padres
Round Rock – Rangers
Sugarland – Astros
OKC – Doyers

So that’s where all the PCL teams are located. Doesn’t it seem like, while not all of those teams fail to develop hitters all of the time, a lot of them do seem to have issues? And the teams that seem to have the least problem, the Doyers, Rangers and Astros, seem to have their AAA teams at low altitude? Sure, they still have to play 1/2 of their games on the road. Also, prospects get to pass over AAA sometimes. But just look at this whole group of teams and think on say the last 10 years. How many of these teams have seen “failed AAAA prospect assplode into useful player”? How many of these teams seem to always have position player prospects ready to go year in and year out?

I love the PCL. It’s history etc. But back then it was mostly low altitude coastal cities.

Is a team having a PCL club basically causing them to have one less stage of development for their prospects and thus causing a higher rate of fizzle at the MLB level? Think of all the Rockies hitting prospects like Zac Veen. Or all those Mariners kids the last 15 years who never hit the way they were supposed to. Or Brandon Wood. Hell, Jo Adell. I know we are hardly aware of it, but the A’s have actually had some serious busts over the years too. The Padres? Yep, lot’s of hyped kids in Cal League and San Antonio who eventually show up at Petco and flop.

Now, of course, a big part of this is just that prospects flop and teams like the Doyers and Rangers have good development systems. But the Doyers moved their AAA team to OKC fairly recently from Florida while the two Texas teams basically built their AAA clubs in Texas. Was part of this motivated by NOT wanting their AAA clubs to be totally useless? Is that part of having a good system? Should our AAA team be in Fresno or Simi Valley?

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Note. I spaced out. Doyers weren’t in Florida, I was thinking of another team…
They moved out of ALBQ

Last edited 2 hours ago by gitchogritchoffmypettis
FungoAle
Legend
2 hours ago

Noted. I can’t get Tommy Lasorda out of my mind every time I hear the name Albuquerque. Where he started his rah-rah epic rants.

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gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  FungoAle

The good news is he’s dead.

Born_in_59
Trusted Member
21 minutes ago

Are you sure? I thought I heard Tommy ranting about Dave Kingman on YouTube last night.

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
16 minutes ago
Reply to  Born_in_59

Curt Bevacqua  😀 

FungoAle
Legend
4 minutes ago
Reply to  Roy Hobbs

Love those rants, epic

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
3 minutes ago
Reply to  FungoAle

He made Jim Healy’s career.

Born_in_59
Trusted Member
2 hours ago

Maybe you were thinking of their A level team in Vero Beach. McCourt moved their affiliation from Florida to San Bernardino after 2006. Guess it saved him money. See Arte isn’t the only cheap owner; we can only hope somebody as rich as Guggenheim buys the Angels.

Angels2020Champs
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2 hours ago
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FungoAle
Legend
2 hours ago

11-years since his lone playoff series, geezus. And if he ever gets back to the postseason, he’ll be the 5th or 6th best person in the lineup.

toad2065
Trusted Member
2 hours ago
Reply to  FungoAle

He already is probably 4th or 5th. Sad, but true.

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
7 minutes ago
Reply to  toad2065

He’s actually been the best hitter in the line up most of the year and is still 2nd to Moncada.

RexFregosi
Super Member
1 hour ago

He’s Ernie Banks

of course MSM will be picking up on his decline, and like us, and bemoaning it.

Lucky them. They can drop by every now and then.

Unfortunately for us, we are having to watch it each AB, each 97 mph fastball down the middle.

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Roy Hobbs
Super Member
3 minutes ago

It is very accurate and very sad, also incredibly condemning of the organization. It’s bad enough that they haven’t gone to the post season in 10 years, but to do it for a lot of that time with the best player in the game and 3 Ohtani MVP years is insane.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend

A couple things I gleaned from MLBTR upon waking….

The Astros called up one of my “Maybe he would be worth trading for as the Rule 5 decision starts to loom” players in the form of Zach Cole. He is strong. He is fast. He strikes out 35% of the time. They say…

He has posted alarming whiff rates throughout his minor league career, but his bottom line production has been strong at every stop. The left-handed hitting Cole has a .249/.357/.469 slash over parts of four minor league seasons. That includes a .279/.377/.539 showing with 19 homers and 18 stolen bases in 97 games this year. He was slated to head to the Arizona Fall League but instead forced his way to the majors by hitting .353 with five homers in his first 15 Triple-A contests.

So he’ll be added to their 40 man and 25 man. They’ll have to decide if they want to keep him after this cup of coffee. If they are not impressed and they sign an OF then maybe we can get a shot at being unimpressed by Cole…. or maybe we figure out a way to get that K rate down to 25% and get a 30/30 guy? Point is these are the prospect flyers we need more of in the system. They may not be THE SOLUTION but they are better than the current nothing.

Speaking of our current nothing. We outrighted Chad Stevens. Why is this of interest? In 72 games at the AAA level this year, Stevens hit .302 with a .389 on-base percentage and slugged .542. Numbers that stack up well against Rada. Now, sure, he is six years older than Rada. But That doesn’t matter for shit when deciding if a guy is CLEARLY ready to hit in the MLB. I’m glad they have kept Rada down at AAA. The MLB team is going nowhere. Let the young man develop. I wish our AAA team wasn’t in SLC.

Born_in_59
Trusted Member
3 hours ago

Let’s be truthful, half the PCL is terrible because of elevation:

Albuquerque 5312 ft
Reno 4505 ft
Salt Lake City 4226 ft
El Paso 3740 ft
Las Vegas 2001 ft
Oklahoma City 1201 ft
Round Rock 735 ft
Tacoma 200 ft
Sugar Land 98 ft
Sacramento 33 ft

But moving the Bees to Memphis won’t mean Rada or anyone else will develop any better. You need to have the coaching and all the other support to go with it. Milwaukee had their AAA club in Colorado Springs for several years and they did okay. Same with the Dodgers when their club was in Albuquerque.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  Born_in_59

Bah! we just posted the same stuff…. but you have numbers so you are cooler….

PedroCerrano
Super Member
2 hours ago
Reply to  Born_in_59

Even the places where elevation is less of an issue like Sacto are dry and hot smaller stadiums where the ball flies. Tacoma is probably the lone exception.

RexFregosi
Super Member
48 minutes ago
Reply to  Born_in_59

Dbacks are an outlier at Reno.

As the years go by, I place less a blame on SLC and more of it on lack of talent and investing in development resources. It’s on Arte, not SLC.

The elevation is not ideal and not helpful no doubt, but getting better players is much more important – there are so many kids that start in DSL, ACL, Hi A, Lo-A, and AA that don’t even make it to SLC in the first place.

*And maybe if Koho had spent sometime there, he would have learned to keep the ball down (instead of giving up 21 HRs in MLB).

YOUknowulovetheIE
Super Member
4 hours ago

I used to enjoy the automatic runner on 2nd in extra innings. It made things more interesting, but now that it’s turned into bunts, endless walks, and a wild pitch winning the game, I’m over it.

red floyd
Legend
2 hours ago

The ghost runner has ALWAYS been an abomination.

Consider… a pitcher can LITERALLY* throw a perfect game and lose.

* Literally being used properly in this case.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend
Reply to  red floyd

I still like the ghost. I don’t need to watch the 15 inning 4.5 hour version of last nights game ever again.

PedroCerrano
Super Member
2 hours ago

I lost interest and went to bed last night because the Angels were/are a bad team playing a meaningless game.

Born_in_59
Trusted Member
1 hour ago

I was at a game in Miami that went 20 innings. I was willing to sit through the whole thing, but my kids gave up around the 14th inning. I’m okay with the ghost runner but would have preferred it started in the 11th or 12th inning.

Born_in_59
Trusted Member
19 minutes ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

It’s like Earl Weaver’s quote “if you play for one run, that’s all you’ll get”. On the flip side, there’s something a bird in the hand …

RexFregosi
Super Member
5 hours ago

IE swept RCQ (Dodger affiliate) to win the Southern half of the Cal League.
Raudi again was rowdy (2 HR)
They will play a Giants affiliate in 2025 playoffs yet again – this is the third time in low levels of baseball the Angels and Giants meet in the playoffs – AZL, DSL, and now Low A.

First game Sunday, then Tue and Wed will be in San Bernardino

grichmanpoorman
Trusted Member
4 hours ago
Reply to  RexFregosi

66er pride, baby.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend
Reply to  RexFregosi

I know it doesn’t actually mean much as far as good prospects but I still like this.

cookmeister
Trusted Member
2 hours ago

TGA, Jordan, Soto are good prospects. Throw in Kent, Olejnik as showing solid flashes

Raudi had a great year and going to play in the fall league. Hayden Alvarez killed the ACL and was great in his limited Single A time as an 18 year old

Jury still out on Gonzalez, Munroe, Davis etc who were just drafted

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend
Reply to  cookmeister

Sure. I’m just saying that “TEAM won their MiLB champiham sandwich” is not really and indicator that that team’s gonna poop out a bunch of MLB players. Not historically.

Turk's Teeth
Editor
Super Member
34 minutes ago

You’re not wrong – most of the hitting in this series came from non-prospects and org soldier types. The bullpen, which has been a detriment to the 66ers most of the season, stepped up (though AFL recruit Najer Victor was a bit of a mess last night).

TGA actually had a rough outing, though he was picked up by a resilient Soto and the rest of the pen.

Kent was largely a non-factor this year at IE – pitched less than 30 innings and was last seen a month ago. Always exciting when you watch him, but his durability issues are becoming more concerning.

Still not sure about Olejnik – he remains more “interesting” than “exciting” to me. I counted seven whiffs across 87 pitches last night, so the stuff is there, but he still pitches to a fair amount of contact and loses his release point a lot (he walked the first two batters last night before correcting). He’ll probably be 24-25 when he gets his first taste of MLB ball – I imagine in a relief role – should he succeed at AA down the road.

Turk's Teeth
Editor
Super Member
46 minutes ago
Reply to  RexFregosi

And in kind of a small irony, the lineup that won the first round of the playoffs was actually pretty distinct from the ACL crew, apart from Quintero at the bottom of the order.

Raudi excepted, a lot of the offensive action in this series was from bottom of the lineup guys who are largely non-prospects and didn’t show up a ton during the regular season – Bruggeman, Macias, Coll, Ketchup. Shows how winning and momentum can float all the boats.

We did see two nice games from 2025 10th rounder Nick Rodriguez. Looks like a potential utility bench type to me, but he had been heating up the past two weeks.

Brent
Super Member
6 hours ago

Your annual Dan Patrick dogging on the Angels, and specifically Trout is happening right now. But he’s making a lot of great points. So sad… 11 straight years with no playoffs. And only 3 playoff games played. Just so bad.

Angels2020Champs
Legend
2 hours ago
Reply to  Brent

I linked above. He’s rarely wrong. Doesn’t always mean I like what he says. Both chiefs v 49ers SBs he chose the Queefs because they had a better QB. He was right, I didn’t listen to him for a few months after those SBs because like many red blooded Americans, I prefer not listening to someone else be right when I’m wrong 🤪

Born_in_59
Trusted Member
6 hours ago

Odd statistic for the day, currently the Angels have 4 starters with 2 or more WAR on Baseball Reference. The last time the team finished a season with 4 starters worth 2 or more WAR was in 2010: Weaver, Santana, Pineiro and Haren (in only 94 innings with the Angels).

steelgolf
Legend
6 hours ago
Reply to  Born_in_59

How did Piñata get 2 WAR in 1 season? My memory of him is that he wasn’t very good.

Born_in_59
Trusted Member
5 hours ago
Reply to  steelgolf

You’re probably recalling his last season with the Angels when he went 7-7 with an ERA over 5, but he was a serviceable to good pitcher most years. Though he never made an all-star game or received a Cy Young vote, Pineiro averaged better than 1 WAR a season for his career.

red floyd
Legend
4 hours ago
Reply to  Born_in_59

Is Goose aware of this?

GrandpaBaseball
Legend
7 hours ago

Last night was as good as you can get with Bullpen pitching until it wasn’t.

GrandpaBaseball
Legend
7 hours ago

There is no doubt,
That Mr. Trout,
is out of his HR drought!
 👋  😃  🎉  💥 

steelgolf
Legend
8 hours ago

Apple TV game today? 🤮🤮🤮🤮

GrandpaBaseball
Legend
7 hours ago
Reply to  steelgolf

 🍎 Bad Apple Day 🍎  🙁 

red floyd
Legend
4 hours ago

One bad apple ruins the whole game.

YOUknowulovetheIE
Super Member
4 hours ago
Reply to  steelgolf

Mobile meth stream today

Marcotor
Trusted Member
3 hours ago
Reply to  steelgolf

At least it spares us the stylings of Paddy McHomer.

Angels2020Champs
Legend
2 hours ago
Reply to  steelgolf

Against the grain here… I like Apple TV shows/movies/sports

red floyd
Legend
2 hours ago

I’m down with their shows and movies, but they do NOT know how to broadcast a ball game.

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