LA Angels Wednesday News Crash: 4 in a row?

26 days ago

Reply to Twebur

Fuck it – I’ve seen the light. They said it could never happen, but it has: we have another unicorn.

I’m now worshipping at the altar of Kyren Paris.

It’s time to admit that Kyren Paris is Ohtani v2.0, and Wash is the “Michael Scott” of baseball managers for not having him pitch every fifth day and playing in the field when he’s not pitching. He has developed elite bat speed and power over the last few months, and he’s faster on the basepaths than Ricky Henderson.

Hey! If any of you are looking for any last-minute gift ideas for me, I have one. I’d like Ron Washington, right here tonight. I want him brought from his happy holiday slumber over there on Gene Autry Way with all the other rich people, and I want him brought right here! With a big ribbon on his head! And I want to look him straight in the eye, and I want to tell him what a cheap, lying, no-good, rotten, four-flushing, low-life, snake-licking, dirt-eating, inbred, overstuffed, ignorant, blood-sucking, dog-kissing, brainless, dickless, hopeless, heartless, fat-ass, bug-eyed, stiff-legged, spotty-lipped, worm-headed sack of monkey shit he is for not playing Kyren every inning of every game! Hallelujah! Holy shit! Where’s the Tylenol.

We’re all in this together. This is a full-blown, four-alarm early season emergency here. We’re gonna press on, and we’re gonna have the hap, hap, happiest season since Bing Crosby tap-danced with Danny fucking Kaye. And when Trout squeezes his fat white ass into his uniform today, he’s gonna find the jolliest bunch of assholes this side of the nuthouse cheering Kyren on.

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PedroCerrano

26 days ago

Reply to Senator_John_Blutarsky

LOL!

BTW: I’m claiming the inspiration for that rant due to my earlier Cousin Eddie comment.

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steelgolf

26 days ago

Reply to Senator_John_Blutarsky

Senator, I wouldn’t be more surprised at this revelation you are having than if I woke up in the morning with my head sewn to the carpet.

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RexFregosi

26 days ago

Reply to Twebur

At this rate, Rendon will be back in the lineup before Paris.

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Angelz4ever

26 days ago

No Moniak sightings?

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26 days ago

Reply to Angelz4ever

Yes

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Jeff Joiner

26 days ago

“I’m not worried about who’s off to a great start offensively” is the worst thing a manager could say.

If you care about winning, play the hot hand.

If you care about creating a competitive culture in which results are rewarded, you care.

When a guy starts to feel like he’s not going to get a shot no matter what he does, that sucks. Conversely, when other guys realize they will get the nod regardless of their play, they can relax.

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Jimmuscomp

26 days ago

Reply to Jeff Joiner

Wash sounds like a clown here. Just indefensible.

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26 days ago

Reply to Jimmuscomp

It’s pretty defensible. But keep on clutching those pearls.

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26 days ago

Reply to Jeff Joiner

I actually thought his entire statement made sense. I’m also assuming he’s talked to Paris about all this. It also sounds like Paris will play some more games.

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Twebur

26 days ago

Reply to gitchogritchoffmypettis

If coach would have started me at shooting guard in hgh school, I’m pretty sure we would have gone to state.

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Roy Hobbs

26 days ago

Reply to Twebur

I believe that!

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ErSTAN

26 days ago

Reply to Twebur

Soaking it up in a hottub with your soul mate.

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grichmanpoorman

26 days ago

Reply to Jeff Joiner

Were those his exact words? If so, he could’ve put them differently. But the point is sound. Regression to the mean is a thing and so is progression to the mean. If you expect or hope for a player to get untracked and start hitting, you don’t take them out of the lineup. Should he bench Trout because he’s batting .200? If Kyren is legit, he’ll get his at bats.

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26 days ago

Reply to grichmanpoorman

Also, it’s the 5th game of the season and stuff.
5th
Game
People

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MH252525

26 days ago

I’ll never forget the time Soth watched Wood hit two homers in a game and then promptly sat him the very next day. Wash needs to play Paris while he’s hot. End of story, him not doing so is all about him and not the team.

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26 days ago

Reply to MH252525

Just think… we could have had Brandon Wood.

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Roy Hobbs

26 days ago

Reply to gitchogritchoffmypettis

No, we could have traded him for a future HOFer.

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26 days ago

The team is winning. Second-guessing the lineup at this point in time is funny.

Let’s wait for the inevitable losing streak before we get unhinged, there’s still plenty of time for our yearly expressions of fear and loathing.

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HatcherIsMyHomeBoy

26 days ago

Reply to Senator_John_Blutarsky

This would make sense if we couldn’t attribute 3 wins almost entirely to the bat of the player in question.

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26 days ago

Reply to HatcherIsMyHomeBoy

We’ve played 5 games, winning four of them. So the argument is the team would be undefeated if the player in question had more at bats?

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Roy Hobbs

26 days ago

Reply to Senator_John_Blutarsky

No the argument is that the team would be 2-3 without him.

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26 days ago

Reply to Roy Hobbs

This thread feels like I’m having a circular conversation with one of my kids, and I’ve now forgotten what we’re discussing.

Carry on. All is well.

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PedroCerrano

26 days ago

Reply to Senator_John_Blutarsky

Adult children who know everything is like the jelly of the month club…the gift that just keeps on giving.

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25 days ago

Reply to PedroCerrano

I know that, when ever I have had a problem I can’t solve right away or am being threatened in some way, I wish i had a thirteen year old girl around to sort shit out for me… maybe even kick some ass with those karate skills they all seem to have picked up in their sleep.

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Twebur

26 days ago

Reply to Senator_John_Blutarsky

Might be smart to keep it going, same usage, rinse repeat.

Can’t win more when you’re 4-0 in your last 4, can you? 😀

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Roy Hobbs

26 days ago

Reply to Twebur

Except in my opinion, they are winning in spite of Washington, not because of him right now. I think he actually summed it up best at the end of the interview “So I’ve got a challenge on my hands, and I’m gonna figure it out before it’s over.””

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26 days ago

Reply to Roy Hobbs

I love how we all bitch about managers and not being transparent and blah blah…. and then a guy is pretty strait forward about what he’s doing and we shit our Kirkland jeans over it.

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Roy Hobbs

26 days ago

Reply to gitchogritchoffmypettis

So because he is transparent we’re not allowed to disagree with him. I haven’t heard anyone complain about his lack of transparancy.

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PedroCerrano

26 days ago

Reply to Roy Hobbs

I looked up the Angels Managers list wiki. There were some really good baseball people that you and I collectively found reasons to hate for reasons that now don’t seem so clear to me.

Many of them were around before social media so we second guessed them at the water cooler. Most of us could never reasonably hope to sniff a field as a player but we assume that we could be a GM or Manger because we watched on TV or played JV ball in high school. I think the second guessing is fun and as old as the game itself, but I also smirk at my own hubris.

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Roy Hobbs

26 days ago

Reply to PedroCerrano

I agree Pedro, although, in most cases you’re just second guessing individual decisions, which as you state is always part of life as a sports fan, And it doesn’t mean you’re not sometimes or often right.

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PedroCerrano

26 days ago

Reply to Roy Hobbs

I remember being a back up outfielder on a stacked team that was winning a lot while making 10s of dollars playing unaffiliated ball. I had started off the season 7 for 7 with a couple of bombs but only had 7 at bats after 4 or 5 games. I went and complained to the Manager that he should play me more because I was hot and everything looked like a beachball. He told me that I had been successful because he understood my strengths which was mainly hitting hard stuff and that he had used me wisely in critical situations. I remember hating that answer because it felt like a chicken & egg dynamic where I’d never get an opportunity.

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BruinsAngelsKings

26 days ago

Reply to PedroCerrano

In hindsight, was the assessment correct?

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PedroCerrano

26 days ago

Reply to BruinsAngelsKings

A grudgingly given yes. I ended up playing a lot that season and while I had a nice year, I didn’t sustain that level of hitting. My weaknesses were also exposed versus guys that threw puss.

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PedroCerrano

26 days ago

Reply to HatcherIsMyHomeBoy

Paris looks really good in a still very small sample size but I also thought Chase Silseth was going to be great when they first called him up before he flamed out. The point is that let’s see how the league and he both adjust. I don’t agree with Wash but i get his reasoning.

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Hatcher_Is_My_Homeboy

26 days ago

Reply to PedroCerrano

Not willing to SSS this arch because this is clearly different from the trained eye. He’s a new player. He is now not only on time but consistently early and ready to hit. With his strength gains he now has elite bat speed and the perfect flamingo drill approach for a fast twitch hitter that allows him to be in the zone forever and drill balls the opposite way. He’s in the process of figuring out the two things that are the hardest adjustment when you level up to elite pitching, timing and pitch recognition. Just hope Wash doesn’t thaw him out.

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25 days ago

Reply to Hatcher_Is_My_Homeboy

And if getting sat two games breaks him he surely would have been fine against Max Fried and Garret Crochet otherwise. If only Wash hadn’t broken him.
And yes, I know, hurr durr rythm hurr durr playing time….

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26 days ago

Reply to HatcherIsMyHomeBoy

You are missing the point here. WE ARE ATTRIBUTING 3 WINS TO KYREN FKING PARIS. That is A PROBLEM. It needs to be solved by actually having all of the other players on the roster play games too. It’s not like Wash is benching Paris. He said he’s gonna play him.

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Roy Hobbs

26 days ago

Reply to Senator_John_Blutarsky

No one is second guessing the line up. they are second guessing not playing the best hitter on the team right now, one of the few who is actually hitting, on a team that is barely hitting .200.

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Hatcher_Is_My_Homeboy

26 days ago

Reply to Roy Hobbs

Bingo.. and add to that playing random ass journeymen like Newman, TA, Lopez and Moncada in his place. This is a home grown, cost controlled stud we are F’ing around with. It’s absurd.

Perry needs to do the trick I use with 2 of our grumpy CEO’s.. You can’t tell old stubborn dudes shit about something they think they are an expert on. You have to make it seem like its their idea. If he can make Wash think starting KP everyday is his idea it will land.

Last edited 26 days ago by Hatcher_Is_My_Homeboy

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26 days ago

Reply to Hatcher_Is_My_Homeboy

I’m digging your definition of journeymen.

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TrojanBoiler

26 days ago

Reply to Senator_John_Blutarsky

The team has a -2 run differential so far this season.

It’s funny to pretend this team doesn’t have room for improvement just because they are 4-1

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SchofieldsWalkoff

26 days ago

Reply to TrojanBoiler

Easy to explain & doesn’t really warrant any reaction.
3-0 in 1 run games
1-0 in close games (2-3 run game)
0-1 in blow out games (5+ run games)

The blow out game was the result of a bad 1/3 inning in the game.

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26 days ago

Reply to Senator_John_Blutarsky

You make too much sense. Let’s tie this guy to a log and roll it down a hill.

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RexFregosi

26 days ago

Reply to Senator_John_Blutarsky

I’m glad nobody at CtPG is making the lineup each day and glad no here is the manager 😂
😁

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JackFrost

26 days ago

Reply to Senator_John_Blutarsky

True. We are winning. But winning streaks can very easily turn into losing streaks if they are not protected and fought for. Winning is a daily task that requires focus, commitment and discipline. Without those it wont be maintained and built upon. And all of that starts with the manager.

So, no, questioning the lineup is not unusual.

Just saying.

Last edited 26 days ago by JackFrost

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26 days ago

Reply to JackFrost

At some point this winning streak will turn into a losing streak with or without Paris. Just sayin.

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Angelz4ever

26 days ago

How about that Rafael Devers?

Wow, he looks quite unhappy.

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26 days ago

Reply to Angelz4ever

Straight up: Paris for Devers. Do it. Do it now.

/s

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PedroCerrano

26 days ago

Reply to Senator_John_Blutarsky

Is that you Tony Reagins?

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26 days ago

Reply to PedroCerrano

No, it’s JeDi.

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PedroCerrano

26 days ago

Reply to Senator_John_Blutarsky

In that case, trade anybody and everybody for pitching prospects and completely ignore everything else.

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26 days ago

Reply to PedroCerrano

Thanks, my minions will get to work on it immediately.

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Angelz4ever

26 days ago

Reply to Senator_John_Blutarsky

NO SOUP FOR YOU!!

Last edited 26 days ago by Angelz4ever

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CAoldskoll

26 days ago

Reply to Angelz4ever

The next super drop off like the Orioles star Chris Davis?

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Angelz4ever

26 days ago

Reply to CAoldskoll

I disagree, he’ll do better once free of F/T DH duty. Bergman better watch out for freak locker room accidents, check his car’s brakes and not go down a flight of stairs in front of Devers.

Some players just cannot do well DHing (Trout), some master it.

I expect a high-level trade to happen relatively soon, but the buyer will pay for what he has done last year and not what he is doing now.

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HatcherIsMyHomeBoy

26 days ago

So beyond the strategic absurdity of not playing your hottest player for going on 3 months now.. having seen the direct results of performance based playing time, the moral message you send when you bench top producing players can be a real culture killer. The guys know KP deserves to play everyday so Washington being stubborn to spite Perry or reporters could easily tank morale if it lingers on.

What’s happening now is classic coach / manager playing politics. I’ll never forget a tongue lashing we got at OSU where dudes were complaining about where they were hitting in the lineup and Case famously said.. I don’t make the lineup… you do!! If you want to hit higher or play more then play better!

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26 days ago

Reply to HatcherIsMyHomeBoy

“hottest player for going on 3 months now…”

I can tell a person’s launching into a long rope of overplayed bullshit when they kick off with a much inflated fact.

Paris will play again. Paris is not gonna have a 1.000 OPS this year no matter what. The team will still be ungood. It’s gonna be OK.

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TrojanBoiler

26 days ago

Looking at the weather radar in the STL area, I think we will play after a delay.

Neither team has a game tomorrow, and the weather should pass by ~4:00 local time. I’ve got to imagine the teams and the league would prefer to get this game in today rather than try to make it up later.

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Mikeal1st

26 days ago

if he gets hurt too much

Wish we did that with Redon/Pujols/Hamilton/Wells…

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26 days ago

Reply to Mikeal1st

If who gets hurt too much?

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26 days ago

I can’t be the only one who hopes the game gets rained out, right? I like the realignment of the rotation to have Kikuchi, Soriano, and Silent C against the guys the Guardians have lined up.

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26 days ago

Reply to Rick Souddress

Otherwise, Anderson pitches. 🫠

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JackFrost

26 days ago

Reply to Rick Souddress

I want Soriano pitching Friday for the home Opener, not Kukuchi. That said, I dont like the matchup today vs Gray who is their best starter. In that sense a rainout might help us avoid a loss…. If we still kept Soriano for Friday I’d go for the rainout.

Last edited 26 days ago by JackFrost

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Pineapple12

26 days ago

Reply to Rick Souddress

If they push back the game to 5pm PST, they should be able to get it in cleanly without a weather stoppage

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TrojanBoiler

26 days ago

Reply to Pineapple12

I just posted the same thing above. Both teams are off tomorrow so I’ll be really surprised if the game is cancelled given that the weather should clear up later this afternoon.

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bobblanton

26 days ago

Thunderstorms at 9 and 11

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DowningDude

26 days ago

Meh – Washington is smartly saving Paris for some late game PH heroics. Chill and stuff.

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Mikeal1st

26 days ago

Reply to DowningDude

Like a closer but for hitting.

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TrojanBoiler

26 days ago

Reply to Mikeal1st

Sounds like a golden at-bat candidate!

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26 days ago

Reply to DowningDude

I think yesterday was just standard “managering” in a good way. The season is just starting. He has a lot of hitters that need to “get going”. He has an Adell who sometimes has confidence issues. He has a hot Paris. He starts said “get going hitters” and Adell since benching them for any long period before five games goes by is stupid. Soler looks like crap and we are actually in a position to hold on and win a game. He takes Soler out and has his hot hitter play the rest of the game. We win.

Paris likely plays some other games.

None of this is a big deal.

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bobblanton

26 days ago

Now I hope the game is cancelled instead of watching Nicky Lopez bat while Paris sits in the bench. Let’s try and make Paris cold. Let’s test his maturity and game planning. Yeah that’s the reason. He is trying to make Paris a stronger player. So why didn’t he do that with Adell and Moniak. He kept putting them out there while they failed. But Paris he is succeeding and we sit him in the bench because wash wasn’t allowed to send him to the minors

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MLB Gameday: Angels at Cardinals, Probable Pitchers, Lineups, and more

26 days ago

Reply to bobblanton

Sounds good. Man, we are really overthinking the whole Paris thing here aren’t we?

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bobblanton

26 days ago

Reply to gitchogritchoffmypettis

Haha bored I guess

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JackFrost

26 days ago

Again no Paris in starting lineup ….

🙄

Wash = the new Sosh ?

Last edited 26 days ago by JackFrost

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Roy Hobbs

26 days ago

Reply to JackFrost

You can’t fix stupid.

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bobblanton

26 days ago

Reply to JackFrost

No comment today just shaking my head

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bobblanton

26 days ago

Reply to JackFrost

Ok one comment. Nicky f’n Lopez. Are you fricking kidding me. Wash is so stubborn. Everyone says you have to play the hot hand and he says nope I am the manager I will play who I want

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MarineLayer

26 days ago

Reply to JackFrost

Great too see RP Nicki Lopez in the starting lineup instead of Kyren.

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FungoAle

26 days ago

Reply to MarineLayer

The guys are tired, need load management. #FREE _NICKI

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TrojanBoiler

26 days ago

Reply to JackFrost

Fire Wash, this is just stubborn and/or stupid at this point.

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Pineapple12

26 days ago

Reply to TrojanBoiler

5 games in, we’re 4-1, and you want to fire the manager. Come on lol.

I like Paris too! He’s the 4th OFer right now. Like it or not, that’s the situation.

Doth protest too much.

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TrojanBoiler

26 days ago

Reply to Pineapple12

I was joking about firing Wash

Not joking about this being stubborn and stupid though. A player with a game-altering hit 3 games in a row should not be riding the bench for Nicky freaking Lopez.

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Pineapple12

26 days ago

Reply to TrojanBoiler

Paris isn’t an infielder right now, he’s strictly playing the outfield. That’s the rub.

From the OCR yesterday ..

Just as he suggested a day earlier, Washington made a lineup on Tuesday with Jo Adell back in center field and Kyren Paris on the bench.

Paris was 3 for 8, including a go-ahead home run in the eighth on Sunday and a game-tying triple in the seventh on Monday. After retooling his swing in the winter, he was one of the Angels’ best hitters throughout spring training.
Washington acknowledged that Paris has been swinging a hot bat, but he said he didn’t want Adell to sit out too long. He had been out since leaving Saturday’s game with hip tightness.

“Of course, it is (difficult to bench Paris), the way he’s been playing, but Adell is ready to go, so he’s back in center field,” Washington said. “We’ve got to get him going too. If I don’t put Adell back out there, he’s just gonna rot. We can’t afford to have him rot, and I’m not gonna let Paris rot. So I’ve got a challenge on my hands, and I’m gonna figure it out before it’s over.”

Paris is a natural infielder, so one option would have been to put Paris at second base or shortstop. Washington rejected that idea, partly because they want him to “focus on center field” and partly because the Angels haven’t played enough games to determine that any of his other infielders deserve to sit.

He also likes their defense. Luis Rengifo, Tim Anderson and Yoán Moncada all made exceptional plays late in games to secure victories on Sunday and Monday.

“We’ve played four ball games,” Washington said. “I’m not worried about who’s off to a good start offensively. We’re finding ways to win ball games, and if we can continue to find ways to win ball games with our offense not clicking, that means that we are headed in the right direction, and I want to stay in the direction we are going in. It may not be supplying us with offense right now, but they are catching that rock.”

https://www.ocregister.com/2025/04/01/angels-zach-neto-starts-rehab-assignment-as-dh-at-triple-a/

Last edited 26 days ago by Pineapple12

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Roy Hobbs

26 days ago

Reply to Pineapple12

The problem is that it’s not about the last 4 games, it’s about the fact that out hit every other player on the team for the spring by a significant margin and has continued to do so when the regular season started. It’s not about 8 ABs. If it was, it would not be a big deal.

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26 days ago

Reply to Roy Hobbs

Hurray for Spring Training. Did you enjoy watching your first Spring Training?

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Roy Hobbs

26 days ago

Reply to gitchogritchoffmypettis

What are you even talking about?

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26 days ago

Reply to Roy Hobbs

I’m saying that it was Spring Training. We don’t usually buy into hot springs, like when Rendon had his, or Chad Curtis, or about 100 other guys. But NOW, when you have to be right about something, we aren’t just talking about 5 games, we’re talking about spring training like it’s all important.

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Roy Hobbs

26 days ago

Reply to gitchogritchoffmypettis

Keep telling me how you’re not yelling. I don’t have to be right, I am right for now. You have to look at the whole picture. Most of the rest of the team didn’t hit in the spring and have continued to not do so in the regular season but if you think we should sit the hottest bat on the team when almost no one else is hitting, even if it doesn’t last, then good for you. And it isn’t just that he’s getting hits, he’s been instrumental in our winning our last 3 games. Scoring and driving in winning runs, stealing bases. In two weeks, he may not be, but let’s stick with the guys who are not hitting and not take advantage of the guy who is. If Jo Adell had done what Paris has done all spring and the first 5 games of the season after everyone was talking about his leg kick adjustment, and Washington said he had to sit him so Paris didn’t get stale, you would be jumping up and down.

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25 days ago

Reply to Roy Hobbs

So…. NOW spring training matters? Or 5 games is worth abandoning all other plans? Is this yelling?

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Roy Hobbs

26 days ago

Reply to gitchogritchoffmypettis

So when you disagree or have no argument you just ridicule people?

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TrojanBoiler

26 days ago

Reply to Pineapple12

Washington rejected that idea, partly because they want him to “focus on center field”

The best way to have him learn center field is from the bench and subbing into games as a DH. Got it.

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TrojanBoiler

26 days ago

Reply to TrojanBoiler

I do appreciate Wash’s transparency in discussing his thought process though. He always gives a great interview.

In all honesty, I understand what he’s trying to do and his goal of trying to get enough of his guys some ABs. We just all like a success story and want to see Paris on the field more.

If Paris keeps hitting, consistent playing time will come.

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26 days ago

Reply to TrojanBoiler

Yah. We’ll see him again soon enough. The only issue I actually have with all of this is Wash having to say he isn’t gonna play Paris in the IF. I’m not gonna be a shrill twat about it twenty times a day but if this is true, it’s dumb. He doesn’t have to start him there all the time. He doesn’t have to play him there now. I understand that the defense has to gel some and it’s actually playing well. But I’m about 85% sure Paris will actually appear in the IF at some point this year if he still hits. So why say that?

What I love about all this is it’s pure Halo fan bullshit. Anyone with a brain knows Paris isn’t Bobby Witt Jr and he’s not gonna sustain this. My hope is he is pretty good even after 300 AB (.750 OPS?), but he’s likely gonna have a swoon sooner or later. When it happens these idiots are gonna blame mismanagement rather than baseball being hard and Paris not actually being Ted Williams. They will rail against everything because nothing can just be what it is. This is what shitty fans do. And this is why we have shit fan Ju Ju and can’t have nice things.

Do we want to trade Anderson for prospects? I do. Well, we’ll probably have to let him play some games for that to have a chance at happening. Do we want Adell to be good? Well, he’ll probably need to play too. Do we want to trade Ward? I do. Then we need Adell and we also need Ward to play. And this ignores all of the personality bullshit Washington has to balance with a suddenly hot kid in the mix because he’s an actual manager and not a fartbag on the interwebs.

There’s more to all this than just demanding candy for dinner every night. In the end, if Paris is actually any good, we’re gonna see plenty of him, especially if other guys are truly bad. But I’ll probably give it more than five games for all this to sort out before I start screaming like a cheerleader on fire.

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Roy Hobbs

26 days ago

Reply to gitchogritchoffmypettis

And you know this How? No one knows.

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26 days ago

Reply to Roy Hobbs

Which of those statements I made are you asking about?

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Roy Hobbs

26 days ago

Reply to gitchogritchoffmypettis

That Paris isn’t going to be good going forward. He may not be, and likely may not but no one knows this now. No one said Paris should do anything accept probably play while he’s hot.

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26 days ago

Reply to Roy Hobbs

When did I say Paris will not be good going forward? Or are you reading that out of saying he’s not gonna be Bobby Witt, which he isn’t.

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Roy Hobbs

26 days ago

Reply to gitchogritchoffmypettis

You use a lot of hyperbole. Paris actually could become Bobby Witt, although it is highly unlikely. He might also eventually go back to being the old Paris that we know and love. Regardless, When almost no one else on the team is hitting, It makes no sense not to play the hot bat and see how long it lasts. Also If we’re all about playing the kids, let’s err on that side instead of worrying about whether our infield defense is great. We had no issue messing up our OF defense by moving Adell after he became a plus fielder in right. We’ re not consistent.

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Roy Hobbs

26 days ago

Reply to gitchogritchoffmypettis

No one is screaming except you. They just have a differing opinion which seems to be something you struggle with.

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26 days ago

Reply to Roy Hobbs

I’m not screaming. I’m calming saying your over reaction to this whole thing is stupid.

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Roy Hobbs

26 days ago

Reply to gitchogritchoffmypettis

So that’s your opinion and I’m overreacting simply because I said we should be playing the guy who is currently swinging the hottest bat on a team that isn’t hitting. Ok. I think you are overreacting to people who have a different view and no one feels the need to call your opinion stupid because they disagree.

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26 days ago

Reply to Roy Hobbs

My opinion is that the level to which you and others have climbed, the “This manager is XYZ, you NEVER do XYZ, this is an inexcusable affront to baseball wisdom!” is a little lame.

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Roy Hobbs

26 days ago

Reply to gitchogritchoffmypettis

So be it. No one says that to you when you sometimes sound ridiculous.

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25 days ago

Reply to Roy Hobbs

Nope. No one ever complains at me or says I’m out my ass. Never happens.

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HalosFanForLife

26 days ago

What do y’all see us doing when Neto comes back? Who goes? Trade ideas?

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Angelz4ever

26 days ago

Reply to HalosFanForLife

One of the surplus IFers.

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MarineLayer

26 days ago

Reply to HalosFanForLife

Anderson

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toad2065

26 days ago

Reply to MarineLayer

Newman. Anderson looks like he might hit. Newman, not a lick!

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bobblanton

26 days ago

Tornado watch today. I wonder if they will let them play with the tornado watch

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26 days ago

Reply to bobblanton

It’s the sharknados that will be a problem.

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TrojanBoiler

26 days ago

Padres signed Merrill for 9/$135M, through his age 30 season

I know we say it all the time on here, but I would love to see some similar moves from Perry & Co. Neto may be the only one that has proven he is worth an early extension but let’s get it done guys!

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Roy Hobbs

26 days ago

Reply to TrojanBoiler

None of them have proven you should give them an extension. Let’s see at least two consecutive high performing years with no injuries before we start thinking about offering long term deals to players under club control.

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TrojanBoiler

26 days ago

Reply to Roy Hobbs

Maybe, but isn’t the point of these early extensions to invest in the potential that has been shown? If we wait until he has back to back 5+ WAR seasons then the contract will only get more expensive.

For example – Merrill has only played 1 year. Granted, he was second in ROY voting but they locked him up really quickly.

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Mikeal1st

26 days ago

Reply to Roy Hobbs

I’d agree but it seems that it would be easy for any organization not run by Arte to do the math on when to sign a player to an extension. Hmmm… Maybe Arte is just bad at math?

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JackFrost

26 days ago

Reply to TrojanBoiler

The Padres are smart. They lock up their young studs (Tatis, Merrill) while they are young and thus save themselves tons of money…

Imagine if Arte had done that with Ohtani ….

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26 days ago

Reply to JackFrost

If that had happened, we wouldn’t have had the ability to sign Anthony Rendon. That’d be a huge blow to our veteran leadership presence 😌

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Pineapple12

26 days ago

Reply to JackFrost

Sho was never signing an extension here lol. Neto, O’Hoppe, Schanuel, Joyce, Soriano, etc we have a chance with

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26 days ago

Reply to Pineapple12

I know, I was being tongue in cheek anyway

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26 days ago

Reply to Rick Souddress

Can’t miss an opportunity to poke fun at a rich underperformer after all

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Pineapple12

26 days ago

Reply to Rick Souddress

I know haha, it was a response to Frosty. Maybe he was being sarcastic too and I didn’t catch it

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26 days ago

Reply to Pineapple12

Oop, the formatting of replies on here confuses me yet again.

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JackFrost

26 days ago

Reply to Pineapple12

No sarcasm. Arte could have had Ohtani for 7-8 yrs at 20-25 mill AAV Imagine the bargain that would be now !!

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Pineapple12

26 days ago

Reply to JackFrost

That’s assuming Ohtani and his agent would have been dumb enough to do that. Highly highly skeptical Ohtani and his representation would have negotiated a pre-FA extension. They were determined to hit the open market

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JackFrost

26 days ago

Reply to Pineapple12

I am talking about in the very beginning. Knowledgeable baseball people knew what Ohtani was. Arte didn’t, or didn’t care.

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BruinsAngelsKings

26 days ago

Reply to JackFrost

Ohtani only signed with the Angels because the DH in the AL at the time. Otherwise, he would have signed with the doyers.

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JackFrost

26 days ago

Reply to BruinsAngelsKings

Not true. His idol Ichiro recommended he sign with the Angels. That was a big part of it… I mean, there were other AL teams he could have gone to but didnt.

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KingsHalos10

26 days ago

Reply to JackFrost

He knew and didn’t care. He didn’t do anything to better the situation on the field while ohtani was here. He knew they were sinking and when the uni DH came he was gone. Milk it for what it’s worth till the end. Until Moreno sells or changes his business/baseball views, this is the product us fans get. At least this years team looks more scrappy and ready for the season than the last few years of bandaids
He had an opportunity to grow the Angels name and marketability, but he let that flounder over lux tax and limitations where other owners and groups adapted and made smart business investments within the leagues rules.

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26 days ago

Reply to JackFrost

Source?

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Roy Hobbs

26 days ago

Reply to JackFrost

Just my opinion, but I do not believe he would have signed for that.

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2pints

26 days ago

Reply to JackFrost

nonsense

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JackFrost

26 days ago

Reply to Pineapple12

Disagree. If Arte had offered 250 million right away (10 yrs at 25 mi) Shohei would have jumped at it. I am talking when he first came to Anaheim.. But you let him get a couple MVPs under his belt and it changes everything…. That’s why what SD did with Tatis was so damn smart. And what KC did with Witt Jr as well …

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FungoAle

26 days ago

Reply to JackFrost

no chance, paltry for a unicorn and world wide sensation

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CAoldskoll

26 days ago

Reply to JackFrost

I don’t think he personally would not have signed any extension after year 2 or 3. First he doesn’t care about money, his endorsements in Japan make him ultra wealthy. Two, all he cares about is winning, and by that time he realized Angels were losing organization. As soon as the DH rule changed, he already was looking at the successful cross town enemy in Blue. Remember then began the comments about winning, and being on a ‘winning team’. We were silly and bought into that his last season and emptied out our prospects to try to make a push, when that jerk already knew he was going to LA. Yes he knew, and at WBC took Darvish’s plan to get the best Japan players on one team; not SD but his preferred team LA. I enjoyed his time as an Angel, but never trusted him as caring or dedicated to us. I was right.

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FungoAle

26 days ago

Reply to Pineapple12

100% Shohei came to the States wanting to build up his resume and hit the open market. He was so confident in himself, like no other player I have seen before.

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FungoAle

26 days ago

Reply to JackFrost

I’m sure the Padres regret Tatis in the same vain as the Rays and Wander Franco. I’d avoid giving these types of deals to any player from a 3rd world country. Temptation is too strong to go astray.

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JackFrost

26 days ago

Reply to FungoAle

Why would SD be regretting Tatis ? Have you seen his performance the last year plus? No reason for regrets there… And if we had Shohei locked up for the next 4-5 years at 25-30 mil per we wouldn’t have them either…

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26 days ago

Reply to TrojanBoiler

I love this contract and hope we do the same with some core guys. I hope that some of these guys who come up together want to stay together and will settle for a pretty large contract early to do it.

Merrill’s is big, and none of our kids are Merill as of yet. But what I like is all of the “you get paid more like a star if you are a star” escalators. I wish we’d do that with like six guys. Pay them like they are important even pre-arb, pay them extra if they are VERY good, and pay them a solid amount no matter what once they would have been an FA. But lock em up for a decade now and avoid having to sign 32 year olds for ten years. PLUS keep fan favorites.

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26 days ago

Reply to gitchogritchoffmypettis

I support this philosophy assuming the team is making wise decisions. We don’t want to end up with a group of guys we wanted to keep together and get stuck with big contracts and it turns out they weren’t really very good or had chronic injury issues that we should have seen.

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Pineapple12

26 days ago

Our three best hitters at the moment are Schanuel, Paris, and Adell. Neto will join the party soon. It would be great to get O’Hoppe going.

Soriano and Silent C’s outings were excellent. Joyce is as electric as ever.

It’s baffling how our perpetually ranked 30th farm system continues to produce talent, isn’t it?

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