LA Angels Monday News Crash:

The Angels had pretty good luck this season on the injury front, but that luck seems to have run out now. With Zach Neto’s wrist acting up, the Angels called up Denzer Guzman and Christian Moore. With both d”Arnaud and O’Hoppe on the concussion IL, Chad Wallach is back with the big club. Here is an article about the Angels prospects at the Arizona Fall League. Ryan Goins got a chance to manage a couple of Angels games over the weekend. The Angels lost them but I don’t really think Goins can be blamed for that. The Angels set a new record for how many times a team struck out in a four game series.

The Brewers clinched a playoff spot.

Will Smith is now on the injured list. Frequent flyer Chuckie Robinson got called back up. Jose Quintana will have an MRI on his calf injury. The Cubs placed outfielder Owen Caissie on the 7 day concussion IL.

Photo credit: Rex Fregosi

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DMAGZ13
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1 month ago

1) Trade Ward and Soler together for a prospect and cap space.

2) leave Adell at RF

3) Rada to CF

4) move Neto to 2B (too injury prone at SS, would make many All Star teams at 2B)

5) promote Guzman to SS

6) Move Moore to LF (top big and injury prone at IF position) let him hit everyday.

7) Teo is 4th OF and Peraza is 4th IF.

Phil
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1 month ago
Reply to  DMAGZ13

I like your proposals.

However, if the Angels are going to use Rada in 2026, why not let him play in these meaningless games in September (while stay allowing him to maintain his ROY-eligibility status)?
It would be great to evaluate him over a 15-game span in the majors, for instance.

Don’t just put Rada in the starting lineup this coming March-July 2026, when there’s a chance we’re not yet eliminated from playoff contention.

The last thing we need is for a rookie to make rookie mistakes and lose a game here and there. Let the rookie do that in meaningless games.

FungoAle
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1 month ago

The Greek God of K’s has been out-righted off the 40-man. A no brainer. However, the Angels decided to keep him in the organization.

Kavadas has slashed just .168/.271/.292 with a 39.5 percent strikeout rate in 40 games at the big-league level. He should have been sent outward for a change of scenery with a new organization.

Turk's Teeth
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1 month ago

Figured Rex might post this one, but Baseball America posted a nice healthy steak-sized portion of Rada-worship today. Headlined this week’s Statcast Standouts feature, even nabbing the cover photo:

https://www.baseballamerica.com/stories/nelson-rada-joe-mack-headline-10-statcast-standouts-sept-15/

It’s Eli Ben-Porat again. There are too many charts to post in toto, but the framing is great, as it proposes Rada as the polar opposite of what made the Angels’ offense so frustrating this season.

The Brewers have been the best team in baseball this year, with the most wins and second most runs scored. They’ve accomplished this by building an offense that focuses more on batting average than home runs. They have only one player (Jackson Chourio) who has an isolated slugging percentage above .200 and only one player (Christian Yelich) with a chance at a 30 home run season.

Almost a generation ago in 2002, the Angels won the World Series with largely the same offensive formula. Which brings us around to Rada, who is a potential rookie of the year candidate to watch next year

Rada is the archetypal example of how to succeed with limited bat speed. If you don’t have the bat speed necessary to generate top-end exit velocities, the best way to be a successful hitter is to maximize your batting average and on-base skills. This means having a short swing, which allows the batter to wait longer and see more of each pitch.

Per Baseball Savant, the four players with the lowest bat speed in the majors this season among qualified hitters are Luis Arraez, Steven Kwan, Jacob Wilson and Nick Allen.

Ben-Porat evidences multiple heat maps to show how Rada has almost no holes against fastballs and sliders (though is still vulnerable to some changeups).

We also see evidence of potentially elite pitch recognition and decisions against sliders. The only in-zone sliders he takes are hangers at the top of the zone. It’s quite striking how empty the zone box is for takes against sliders.

Rada may never hit double-digit home runs in a season, but he looks very much like Steven Kwan, who has been 13% better than league average through 2,500 plate appearances and accumulated almost 15 wins. Samuel Basallo figures to be the popular pick for AL rookie of the year next year, but it wouldn’t surprise me if Rada makes a case for himself, as well.

Last edited 1 month ago by Turk's Teeth
RexFregosi
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1 month ago
Reply to  Turk's Teeth

busy reflecting on the 2025 season today
https://youtu.be/VKcAYMb5uk4

Phil
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1 month ago
Reply to  RexFregosi

The Horror!
The Horror!!

Eric_in_Portland
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1 month ago
Reply to  Turk's Teeth

Rod Carew had 2 seasons of 10+ HRs. I’d be happy if an Angel put up an .822 OPS and a 131 OPS+ without the long ball.

milehigh
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1 month ago

I remember the Cardinals winning the WS with Jack Clark as the only home run guy.

FungoAle
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1 month ago
Reply to  milehigh

One should go back and learn from the SF Giants tripe championship teams. 2010, 2012 and 2014. The Giants were not a prolific home run hitting team

Phil
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1 month ago
Reply to  milehigh

Heck, the 1988 Dodgers had Mickey Hatcher (who hit 1 home run in 1988) as the cleanup batter in the World Series. He went on to hit 2 home runs in the 1988 World Series

It’s about the RBIs, more than about homers.

There’s just a few times when you really need home run hitter:
— such as when you’re down by 1, bottom of 9th, 2 outs
— or, like when Mike Scioscia (who hit 3 HRs in 1988), in that 1988 playoff game against the Mets, hit a game tying 2-run HR, on 0-2 count, off Dwight Gooden.

Angels need hitters who can make contact with man on 3rd and 0 outs to drive in the run, more than they need hitters who either hit homers, or strike out, while hitting 0.240 or less.

RexFregosi
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1 month ago
Reply to  Turk's Teeth

Rada will is pretty much #1 on CF depth chart going forward.

Optimistic me see plenty of upside for Moore, Rada, Oswaldo and Guzman too and where this is headed for the roster. Practical me says that means starting multiple rookies (2B/3B/CF) in 2026 – umm…

Shores will my pick for AL ROY 😉 he is the chosen one – yes I am chasing the upside of 6’8″ throwing 102+ mph and has the cajones to close out Omaha. this could work out nicely. Him and DJ are my two favorite prospects

Turk's Teeth
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1 month ago
Reply to  RexFregosi

You may be out on a (cough) island with your Shores prediction – I believe I’m at the antipode of that distant land mass of Hopium – but I’ll offer some laurel and incense to the baseball gods to make your wish come true.

Roy Hobbs
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1 month ago
Reply to  RexFregosi

I do not understand the optimism for Moore at this point. And you’re forgetting Paris who accumulated almost a full 1WAR more than Moore in the same number of plate appearances. Paris is the best defensive player on the team other than Neto and Teodosio. He and Teo are the two best baserunners on the team.

FungoAle
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1 month ago
Reply to  Roy Hobbs

Paris cannot hit water if he fell out of a boat. That will hang over him for the rest of his career. And that is too bad, could use his athleticism as an everyday player.

Phil
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1 month ago
Reply to  Roy Hobbs

The optimism for Moore is that I won’t have to watch Rengifo at 2B.
And hopefully, not see Rengifo at any other position.

But, seriously, I want to see how he does in MLB. If he’s truly not ready, then fine, he’s back to the minors for 1-2 (or more years).

When you draft a player high, try him out in the majors. What’s the worse thing that happens – the rookie gets so rattled and scared during his brief 10-20 games in MLB that he becomes too terrified to ever play baseball again?

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  Turk's Teeth

How can a player have any value if he doesn’t hit balls as hard as humanly possible?

WallyChuckChili
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1 month ago

Bring back Jabari Blash!

Angels2020Champs
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1 month ago

The longest/slowest swing I’ve ever seen up close.

FungoAle
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1 month ago

As a coach?

grichmanpoorman
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1 month ago
Reply to  Turk's Teeth

I just hope they don’t package him with one of the young arms in some kind of bid to “make a last stand” for Trout… i.e go after a veteran… Acuna or somebody.

Turk's Teeth
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1 month ago

When Arte winds the hair of Rada and all of the prep arms Perry acquired in the draft around his magic stick, runs his withered hands across his thorny wand, breaks that stick and rings his sinister bell, all good prospects fly like the schoolkids in Weapons into the arms of Anthopoulos for Matt Olson.

FungoAle
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1 month ago
Reply to  Turk's Teeth

Good post to read, particularly the note about the Brewers and their approach as an organization. Rada is the polar opposite and would be a welcome sight to see. However, I’m worried that the Angels baseball operations will tinker with his hitting approach. I’d keep Washington’s and Laker away.

steelgolf
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1 month ago
Reply to  FungoAle

The Angels hitting coaches should be gone by Oct 1st

FungoAle
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1 month ago
Reply to  steelgolf

I’ll buy you two beers when that happens.

Brent
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1 month ago

Not the Angels, but surprised it’s not the Angels. Actually crazy stats.

https://x.com/JayCuda/status/1967632063122886687

Terry
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1 month ago
Reply to  Brent

That is crazy.

Turk's Teeth
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1 month ago
Reply to  Brent

The Angels wish this was the Angels.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  Brent

That “.500” complaint is so 2015.

FungoAle
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1 month ago
Reply to  Brent

Farhan Zahidi’s MIT blueprint

MarineLayer
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1 month ago

10 earned runs, six innings, 3Ks in two starts previous. Then 14Ks and zero walks and two runs in his next start. Guess the mystery pitcher and the team he got well against.

Eric_in_Portland
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1 month ago
Reply to  MarineLayer

I got half of the answer

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Are these games still meaningful? We still have Ward and Jansen right? Why do I get the sense we aren’t making the play offs? Wahappen?

Tear it all down. Just get it over with.

AnAngelsFan
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1 month ago

I can’t stand to imagine how bad things would be if Ward and Jansen had been traded. Sure, the Angels might have netted a few minor prospects, but they’d probably be in last place behind the A’s with no chance at making the playoffs instead of . . . oh.

MarineLayer
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1 month ago

The good thing about all the crap Minasian brings up to fill out the 26, is yhat they are so completely forgettable alive forgotten them by the following. There area few exceptions due to nicknames like Captain Jack and Squid, and I think one of them looking like Noah Snydergaard.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  MarineLayer

Arrow chew OKC?

MarineLayer
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1 month ago
Reply to  MarineLayer

Man, I sure had a lot of typos in that post. I guess that shows I’ve given up too, just like the team.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  MarineLayer

I just figured you’d watched that entire Mariners series and it’d given you mud brain…. you can’t watch 12 hours of what’s basically a snuff film and not come out unscathed.

MarineLayer
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1 month ago

It’s true. I didn’t watch the entire series but I had mud brain going in. 😀 

GonFishin
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1 month ago

11th season in a row missing the playoffs. 10th season in a row failing to have a winning record.

Generational incompetence from ownership and baseball operations.

Roy Hobbs
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1 month ago
Reply to  GonFishin

While having Mike Trout on your team the whole time and Ohtani for 6 of the years.

AnAngelsFan
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1 month ago
Reply to  Roy Hobbs

Given Ohtani’s inability to pitch for much of that time and Trout’s inability to stay healthy, only 2 of the years (2018 and 2022) stand out as years the Angels really should have made the playoffs.

The 2022 record of 73-89 is particularly embarrassing. It was Sandoval’s best year and Detmers and Suarez both looked like they might actually be good. Rendon was actually average that year but continued to be unable to play even 50 games; the Syndergaard, Loup and Tepera experiments didn’t work out; Fletcher had lost his promise the year before and couldn’t recover; Stassi had a wash-out year after a promising one; and none of the prospects (Marsh, Adell, Moniak, Thaiss) stepped up to fill the gaps.

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MarineLayer
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1 month ago
Reply to  GonFishin

Yup. That says it all.

FungoAle
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1 month ago
Reply to  GonFishin

Looking at the success of the GMs during that time, I’ve focused on results, Wins and Losses.

Jerry Dipoto (2012-2015) averaged ~ 86 to 87 wins during his tenor. Granted he had less ominous contracts he inherited and his team was only 2-years out from 3-straight 1st place finishes. JeDi hd some good tailwind to aide his success. Only 1-year under .500 during his time.

Eppler (2016-2019) averaged 76.5 wins. Never finished about .500 but had a couple of 80-82 seasons.

Minasian – 72 wins each season. This year is not over but I’ll give him the benefit of the Angels will equal Perry’s best season, 2011 at 77 total wins. During the shortened COVID year, the Halos were playing at horrible clip, .433 W-L %. I will be generous and extrapolate out to 73 wins. Obviously, never came close to .500 in any year overseeing the club. This dude is just struggling in his position. Fundamentally a very poor club.

Time for change.

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gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Here’s a fun one. Who are the GM/POBO/POPP/PEEBOPs that fella’s of your ilk are willing to say are good? I’m not talking about guys who can just spend their way to success. Or guys who were good for a couple years in one spot then not so good in a new spot.

Guys who, where ever they go, they have made you happy. Or guys who have done a good job no matter the regime change or situational change in the ownership offices. I have a couple in mind, but who do guys like you actually like for longer than a three year stretch?

For example, id Freidman still good? I can’t tell, he has too much cash to play with and no other GM is gonna be in his situation. Stern with the Mets? Not very good if you ask Mets fans. Chiam Bloom was supposed to be good till he got a dose of the Nutting. Falvy with the Twins?

WallyChuckChili
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1 month ago
Reply to  FungoAle

Looks like the trend is going down. Maybe the next GM can avg under 70 games.

YOUknowulovetheIE
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1 month ago
Reply to  GonFishin

I blame pooholes

DowningDude
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1 month ago

Ah but poo holes are usually needed for expelling waste.

PedroCerrano
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1 month ago

Ueck “God called me up to his team, albeit as a third string catcher”

https://x.com/Brewers/status/1967085173578887609

Last edited 1 month ago by PedroCerrano
Jeff Joiner
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1 month ago
Reply to  PedroCerrano

That is incredible.

toad2065
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1 month ago
Reply to  PedroCerrano

Loved Ueck, and really appreciate Pat Murphy! I didn’t think the Brewers could do better than Counsel, but maybe they have.

clover_black
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1 month ago
Reply to  PedroCerrano

no idea he passed in january. damn.

PedroCerrano
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1 month ago
Reply to  clover_black

I can hear his voice and the trademark pause for effect in that quote. RIP Ueck, making friends with the first row fans in heaven while retrieving passed balls.

Angelz4ever
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1 month ago

The dark specter of a strike looms over MLB next season. I’d hate to miss out on the 2026 hopium then the withdrawals during May and June to which I have grown accustomed.

Roy Hobbs
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1 month ago
Reply to  Angelz4ever

They’re both shooting themselves in the foot by not working things out now while they have time.

toad2065
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1 month ago
Reply to  Roy Hobbs

No, they are both continuing to play the fans for suckers! Been doing it so long it just feels natural.

MarineLayer
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1 month ago
Reply to  Angelz4ever

If the strike washes out a season, does that shorten a Trout’s contract by a year? That would be a silver lining. Plus he gets more time to recover from all his jogging to a base injuries.

Terry
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1 month ago

Actually to our boys, when there is talk of a strike in baseball they think it means Trout taking one down the middle.

Angelz4ever
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1 month ago
Reply to  Terry

I think this time a strike will impact baseball negatively long-term:

It will probably be a protracted strike due to owners wanting a hard salary cap. The players will dig in WWI trench warfare style over that issue.

A strike will expedite MLB baseballs slow cruise to irrelevance was we all know there is a two or three year fan lull after strikes and MLB is already well behind the NFL and NBA in popularity.

It took me a couple of years to get back to going to the stadium after the last strike fiasco.

Last edited 1 month ago by Angelz4ever
gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  Angelz4ever

This could actually be a perfect time for a strike for me.

The team blows. Neto, Adell, Soriano etc should be traded to rebuild but we won’t cause they are “young and controlled” ignoring the fact that you need that WHEN YOU ARE COMPETATIVE and it means almost nothing when you suck. They will all be a year older. Maybe it will be a little easier to see them as trade assets after the strike.

Nothing is being built in the Heim. No Team. No Farm. No stadium. No giant TV deal. The only thing to hold out for is that at some point within the next few years there may be some expansion payment coming. Arte will be a year older after the strike. Maybe it’s time to cash in those chips. What business could possibly be left to do?

On the flip side, Arte has got to be one of the most anti-Doyers buy a post season guys out there. He’s got to hate FAs, he’s pissed away about a billion dollars on injured free agents. Having him around for the strike, I’m down.

The Angels suck more dick than the state prison system. I want a salary cap. And a salary floor. Hell, I want things to get so bad that the govt steps in and MLB teams have to show us their books. I want the stink. I am hungry for the stink. And I am not currently rooting for a team that will lose golden opportunity seasons while the stink happens. Our farm is even set up to be hurt least by a lost development year. Let the dramatic statements about fairness and fair shares amongst very rich people begin and drag on forever! Just make it actually change stuff for the better in the end.

We will never catch the NFL in America. The NFL is set up for fans to actually enjoy the sport in all but a few markets every year and even a hapless team like the Saints can be right back in it quickly. Their popularity isn’t a worry for us.

The NBA? They were growing like crazy. Not any more. Hell, Andrew Silver just came out and said “If you’re too poor to watch games on multiple streaming services you can always catch the highlights from games on the freeweb.”. Not sure the NBA is gonna replace baseball, even if it goes away for a whole year.

If it does, good. The owners and MLBPA need a good punch in the nuts. Much like the Angels org and fans, they all need some real pain in order to get their shit together and avoid decades of ache.

I get a CBA with a salary cap, salary floor, Arte puts the team up for sale and it can’t really hurt my devastated team much more than it is already hurt? Hell, sign me up for this long strike. I’m ready. I have hockey to turn to after the NFL season. Plus combat sports. Plus I have social skills and artistic stuff to fall back on. Let’s do this MLB owners. Be strong lionesses on your journey to the true north and guiding star of handwaggle balance and blessed vibes prosperity.

Jeff Joiner
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1 month ago

Let’s chill on the sucking things language, please.

MarineLayer
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1 month ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

Your caveat aside, what he says makes sense. Not locking Neto into a long term contract makes sense unless it is very team friendly, which I don’t think Minasian is able to do given his five year track record. A bad contract lowers his trade value unless the Giants are in the market for another bad shortstop contract. Hey Buster Posey, two bad shortstop contracts are better than one.

Jeff Joiner
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1 month ago
Reply to  MarineLayer

Every year Neto gets closer to free agency also reduces his trade value. The fact his salary will go up once he hits arbitration will also hurt his trade value.

Perry has this year and perhaps next to see if Neto is an extension guy or a trade chip.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  Jeff Joiner

10 4

nishiogawakun
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1 month ago

This is where I am at. Ready to watch it burn if there is a chance something better comes from the ashes. The fact that we as Angels fans have nothing to lose makes it all the easier.

Jeff Joiner
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1 month ago
Reply to  Angelz4ever

It is actually a multi fronted battle.

You have some owners who want a salary cap. But then there’s another group of owners who are tired of paying welfare to the Pirates and A’s only to have those owners pocket the money. Guys like Arte should want both.

Adding a salary floor is pretty easy. I suggested years ago to set it at a 2 year average of the MLB money plus the revenue sharing split.

But a cap? How do you enforce a cap when the Dodgers have contracts set up the way they do? What about teams that are already well above what a reasonable cap would be?

Ultimately, the owners are going to have to have a battle amongst themselves before they can even propose anything to MLBPA, who has benefitted a ton from the current fissure inside the ownership group.

Yes, I also believe this will be a long strike. At least one full season.

MarineLayer
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1 month ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

I think you take the total value of the contact and divide it by the number of years. 700 million for ten years is a 70 million per year cap hit regardless of when it’s paid, so no locking up guys cheap on the front end or the Ohtani contract where you never pay them while they’re playing. It levels the playing field.

toad2065
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1 month ago
Reply to  MarineLayer

As an old boss used to tell me, “Make the deal, the rest is just bookkeeping!”

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  MarineLayer

Teams like the Mets and Doyers…. set the cap below what they currently pay by A LOT. Include all money that will be payed to a player against the cap. During an “adjustment” period the teams that are obligated to pay contracts above the cap have harsh penalties.

They can not add any more salary.

They lose their first three draft picks and 50% of their Intl Bonus Pool every year they are over the cap.

They pay a very high Luxury tax while they are over.

MLB will subsidize direct payroll additions via that Luxury Tax and short term revenue sharing increases for teams that are under the payroll Floor. All post season profits other than player win shares go into the pool for non-tax busting teams to share as well.

Teams over the tax after a certain number of years can’t qualify for the post season.

You can basically make it so that teams that over payed a ton of players for short term gains are stuck with those guys and can’t buy their way out and it hurts them dearly until they get out from under a set of cap penalties.

You can even make it so that the poor/cheap teams get over the Floor faster at the same time. Then, after that adjustment period, the Floor teams have to stay over the floor or they get NO REVENUE SHARING at all the next year.

It can be done…. likely at gunpoint.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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It would all be worth it if the owners actually had to battle…. and they showed it on Netflix. Cohen Vs Doner….. it would be great…. Of course the Gugenheims would just pay some broke ass Mexican or Welshman to fight for them and then bury them in an unmarked grave in the desert then purchase some art…. but the rest of the owner battles? Bob Nutting Vs Steinbrenner? With sticks? Fantastic.

Terry
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1 month ago

The Angels have used 41 pitchers this season. A couple of months more in season at this rate, the players would have triple digits on back of jerseys.

GrandpaBaseball
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1 month ago
Reply to  Terry

 😆 

Angelz4ever
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1 month ago

“Now pitching…..#109 Javier Bautista….”

Terry
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1 month ago

Jim Bouton had his 1970 book: Ball Four.

The Angels have their 2025 book: Strike Three.

WallyChuckChili
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1 month ago
Reply to  Terry

And the 2nd book: Watching Strike Three Right Down the Middle.

GrandpaBaseball
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1 month ago

Right down the pike, fitting for a team put together by pikers, wouldn’t you agree.

Angelz4ever
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1 month ago
Reply to  Terry

“The art of striking out”?

“The art of (Not) hitting .200”?

Terry
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1 month ago
Reply to  Angelz4ever

You got art in the title, I see what you did there, you were actually referring to the actual Big A – Arte.

Clever, very clever.

steelgolf
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1 month ago
Reply to  Terry

How about “Baseball Plate Approach, Always Watch The First Meatball Down The Middle!” By Mike Trout

MarineLayer
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1 month ago
Reply to  steelgolf

So true. And the subheading, “Swing Late at Every Pitch You Chose to Swing At.”

Angelz4ever
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1 month ago

Isn’t our magic number -14?

RexFregosi
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1 month ago
Reply to  Angelz4ever

There’s an “E” next to our name in the standings now.

Watching all year, I think it shorthand for Egregious.

Terry
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1 month ago
Reply to  RexFregosi

I thought it stood for EWWWWW.

Angelz4ever
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1 month ago
Reply to  RexFregosi

I don’t know much fancy word talk, but thankee much.

steelgolf
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1 month ago

Your teams in the record books, Arte!!! Congratulations are in order!!!! 🍾🍾🍾🍾🍾🍾

WallyChuckChili
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1 month ago
Reply to  steelgolf

And they said the Angels aren’t must watch TV.

Fansince1971
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1 month ago

Kikuchi seems to be the first Angels free agent in a while to produce value for his salary. The numbers bear that out almost exactly.

Kikuchi has produced almost 3 WAR and the Angels are paying him $21.225 million. With each 1 WAR in production being valued at approximately $8m, Kikuchi has been a good value this season.

The worst value on the team in 2025? Well we all know it but might as well list it. Rendon’s 0 WAR for $38.571 m and Trout’s 1 WAR for $37.116M combine to result in 1 WAR of production for approximately $76m in salary. If the Angels got fair value for that $76m, they would be 10 games better to .500 – at 79-71 they would be the in the playoff hunt.

Fansince1971
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1 month ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

Incidentally from a WAR perspective it’s hard to be too angry with Trout who has produced 87 WAR which has a value of approximately $700m. The Angels have paid him less than half of what that production is worth – $319m. Even if Trout were to end his career now and still be paid the approximately $200m left on his contract, that 87 WAR in production would still be a value.

Fansince1971
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1 month ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

By comparison, Rendon has been paid approximately $204m for the 3.9 WAR he has produced in total as an Angel – approximately $52m per 1 WAR or 7x of the market value.

AnAngelsFan
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1 month ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

Josh Hamilton was 2.7 WAR for $125m, about $46m per WAR, so it looks like Rendon’s contract will take the cake as the worst ever.

WallyChuckChili
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1 month ago
Reply to  AnAngelsFan

Well… we haven’t seen who Arte will sign next.

steelgolf
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1 month ago

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣, Wally, don’t challenge him!

WallyChuckChili
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1 month ago
Reply to  steelgolf

Arte!!!!

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AnAngelsFan
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1 month ago

It won’t be pitcher to a long-term contract, that’s for sure.

Angelz4ever
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1 month ago
Reply to  AnAngelsFan

Good thing we don’t need any pitching…… 😒 

steelgolf
Legend
1 month ago
Reply to  Angelz4ever

We just need moar relievers! Next draft will be all relievers!

Angelz4ever
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  steelgolf

I think an all DH-1B draft would be darkly hilarious.

MarineLayer
Legend
1 month ago
Reply to  Angelz4ever

And most of them would never reach the majors, anyway, especially when you’ve got Logan Davidson on the roster.

Angelz4ever
Super Member
1 month ago

…and the gauntlet has been thrown…

Jeff Joiner
Editor
Legend
1 month ago
Reply to  AnAngelsFan

Life was a little less expensive in Hamilton’s era so the cost per WAR is probably pretty even.

MarineLayer
Legend
1 month ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

I think he is literally the worst contract in the history of contracts.

MarineLayer
Legend
1 month ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

Hey, we still have him on the roster for many years clogging up the DH slot, producing nothing besides walks.

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