I don’t really have anything for you today. Sorry.
Photo credit: Rex Fregosi
I don’t really have anything for you today. Sorry.
Photo credit: Rex Fregosi
Okay something I don’t understand re WAR.
Adell has 26HR and 76 RBI in 117 games. He has played a decent left field. So how can he only have 0.4 WAR? He seems much better this season than barely above replacement value.
Yay, we salvaged 1 game out of 3 against last place Oakland, while losing 2 of those games to rookie pitchers who’ve made just a few starts.
For today:
Singer has faced Angels 2 times, going 0-2, with ERA 2.61
For the season, he’s 10-9, ERA of 4.31
Mederos has never faced the Reds.
For the season, he’s 0-0, ERA of 5.63
Moncada, O’hoppe, Moore, and Teo are in the lineup today.
Moore and Teodosio should be in the lineup for the rest of the season. No rest day needed. Let them show what they can do, so the coaches have a better idea for 2026.
Trout has played 13 games against the Reds (.0308BA, 3 HRs, 4 RBIs, 11 runs)
I gave up on the season with the Saturday loss. By “the season” I mean getting to .500. The schedule doesn’t look good for us but hey, we swept the Dodgers. Maybe we’ll play well against teams with a winning record. Or maybe it doesn’t matter who we play. Our record vs teams >.500 is 30-32. Against teams worse than that, also 30-32.
Since we are opining this fine Monday morning:
Let’s extend Ward & Moncada. I believe Moncada could be signed for a reasonable amount for a couple of years..
My gut sarcastic reaction: Don’t we already have enough third baseman on the IL?
Moncada as a depth piece isn’t great as he’s not versatile enough, him as a starter only if you’re wanting a place holder until the team is realistically in the hunt.
I’d consider Ward for a three year extension but I think he’s is going to cost more than is desirable. He’s a poor defender having a career year and is on the backside of 30.
My question would be this: We are a losing team now and everyone is just getting older. What makes us think that we will be better if we just bring back the same players. We are not wining with the players we have so we need to make changes.
I understand your position but we’re talking about Ward after next year at 33. There were several trade scenarios proposed here that could have brought us a player to replace Ward who was much younger. He will be relatively expensive after next next year, and this will be his one opportunity to make money. He would be expensive and at least 3 years. If I thought there was any chance the Halos were actually going to be competitive next year or the year after, It would certainly be a consideration.
Trade proposals on a FAN board are great. But the other team has to want what you’re giving up for what they’re willing to give up. Just because the simulator says it’s worthwhile doesn’t mean it is in the eyes of the other team.
Same with FA’s. Everyone can suggest we sign this or that guy. However, the player has a choice as well, and with the perceived opinion of the Angels, based on some reasonably recent articles, not that great, it becomes much more difficult.
Cody Bellinger 🙂
No QO attached.
Left handed.
Can also play CF.
Faster than Ward.
Better defender.
Younger than Ward.
Splashier name for Arte.
There’s actually decent depth on the OF market this offseason, and even more available in the upper minors via trade, if M&M could get out of their own way and flip a year of Ward for six years of a controllable young OF bat. Orgs like the Dodgers have more than they can possibly accommodate in the MLB.
That’ll kick off my “I used to watch the Angels a lot but now I’m more into ____” phase. Cody annoys me. So will all the bitching after he gets his money from Arte and collapses again.
Your post needs to be plastered all over the walls of every office of every Angels executives.
As well as plastered all over the walls of their homes.
You CANNOT bring back these same players for 2026, except for:
— Neto, Adell, Schanuel, Ward, Detmers, Soriano.
Pray that Ward, Adell, Detmers, Soriano are hot in 1st half of 2026, so that you can trade them. If you can trade these 4 in the off-season, do so.
— Trout, Rendon, and Kikuchi come back, because of their contract. If you can trade them, do so.
— The rookies (Moore, Teodosio) come back.
— O’Hoppe comes back only if he agrees to the minimum contract ($790K salary in 2025) allowed for a player in 1st year of arbitration. We could always use a minimum wage backup catcher.
Under ZERO circumstances do you bring back Rengifo.
If he becomes an All-Star with another team, fine.
If he gets to the HOF with another team, fine.
NOT. WITH. THE. ANGELS.
I see Ward as being comparable to Max Muncy with the bat (but not the glove), so if the Angels could sign him for 2years/$24M with a team option I’d say go for it. More years and/or money and commenters here will be complaining about another anchor contract.
While I think Moncada can be had inexpensively and provide an average bat, do we really want another 3B that can’t stay in the lineup for even half a season?
Yes.
Peraza should be getting looks. The team is also playing Denzer Guzman at third quite a bit in AAA.
Should we see if Pereza can hit minor league pitching first? His NYY career hasn’t shown much promise so far.
Total slash line in the minors: .268/.347/.421
He has 1166 plate appearances in AAA with a slash line of .258/.340/.436
I don’t think sending him to high altitude will prove anything he hasn’t already shown.
The issue to me is that slash line is fine for a shortstop but really light for a third baseman. Perhaps he could be a second baseman and get away with that lack of real thump.
I feel like the Angels fanbase suffers from an acute form of what’s called survival bias.
Folks are so accustomed to disappointment and underperformance that they want to lock in any player who delivers even average or good-but-flawed results over any alternative, whether obvious or out of the box. Better the meh and the known than to risk the unknown, because the assumption is that the unknown can only be worse.
I do not agree with extending Ward, unless he agrees to a below-average salary for 2-3 years, or else sign him to an above-average salary ($17M, like what Michael Conforto of the Dodgers got for 2025) for 1 year.
Ward will be 32-y/o at the start of 2026 season.
As a reference, Trout is 34-y/o, and he’s a shell of himself. Think of how badly Ward will perform at 34.
I would like to see Moncada back, but only at the same $5M that he signed this year (for 2026, he’s an unrestricted free agent). With his knee problems, and his age (31-y/o), you do not want to have the situation in 2026 that you now have in 2025 (i.e. he plays only against right-handers, and his fielding range is limited due to the knee.
My son is a high school player and brought up interesting insight to Trouts horrific batting. He thinks Trout’s problem is his big leg kick, combined with his knee problems. Whether it’s pushing off or planting foot before he swings. He is not comfortable and can’t square up the ball swinging thru. He thinks maybe adjusting by ditching the leg kick for a smaller step?? Most of you remember Neto’s rookie season and his giant leg kick; he got rid of that and has become a solid hitter. Maybe Trout too? I’m hoping for anything knowing we are stuck with him.
Not a bad educated guess. He is consistently fouling off pitches that he appears to be right on. My guess would also be too much movement being created as he attempts to explode on the pitch. Incredibly small margins for error as the stuff everywhere is now elite. Baseball is hard, even for the most gifted.
This is a byproduct of the Angels electing to pitch Jansen in 9th inning tie game situations and since the Angels have a good record in extra inning games this season, the W has often gone to Jansen.
Sam Bachman now has a 0.55 ERA at SLC. In 16 innings, he has given up 1 run and has 17 strikeouts. I assume he will be back with the Angels in short order. I actually think we have some interesting bullpen pieces for 2026. I am most interested in whether the Angels keep Detmers in the pen or try to move him back to the rotation.
Using the eyeball test, I would say Detmers helps us win games more in the bullpen than as a starter.
That is where I am at also. But I can also see the Angels being tempted to move him back into the rotation.
Unless they intent for him to be the closer, I expect the team will give Detmers another shot at the rotation. Five innings of above average pitching makes more sense than 1 inning of shutdown relief.
IMHO it is harder to develop or even sign good 8th inning lockdown guys. Detmers is the real deal and we need to hold onto him.
Of course part of the reason why they are so rare is that when a closer role opens up, they usually fill it.
I think it’s far harder to develop an average or better starting pitcher than it is to develop a late reliever. I think most front office folks would agree with that, and that fact is reflected in both the comparative scarcity of each player type, and the market prices for each.
I’d try him in the rotation next year. If he can keep the one pitch at a time mindset and just attack hitters rather than nibble, he can be really effective.
To mitigate the risk he can’t handle being a starter, I’d sign a guy like Chris Getz who can also potentially start or relieve. One guy starts the year in the rotation, the other in the bullpen.
Jeff, can I make a suggestion for your Minasian piece. Suggest to him he fire himself, and hire someone with experience, who could stand up to the owner.
I want to try to get Detmers into the rotation. On the other hand, a bullpen of Jansen, Detmers, Burke, Bachman, Fermin and maybe useful Joyce/Stephens at some point isn’t the end of the world. We could get the best of both worlds. A pen like the Padres AND we can bitch about first round picks in the pen while we win.
Ok, for a discussion piece, here’s something. The future is becoming somewhat clearer. Neto and Adell are the two to build around. Keeping Ward another year or maybe extending him makes sense depending on the price. O’Hoppe has become a question mark. He went from Robin to Neto’s Batman to now being just one of the gang. Moore has flashes but when/if he puts it all together is in doubt. Schanuel looks like he won’t stink and can be ok. Otherwise, it’s Trout, waiting for Soler to heal (does he have another year?), hoping Teodosio isn’t a flash in the pan (but he likely is) and praying for solid pitching.
They need some hitting upgrades, and what I just noted above likely isn’t good enough to compete via batting. As to remedies, please don’t say blow it up and be the worst team in baseball for 2-3 years. That won’t happen so more constructive ideas are better. Best wishes all.
Off the top of my head, the team will need a 3B, a CF, a utility infielder, two starting pitchers and as many relievers as can be afforded. While Bregman and Suarez are the big names at 3B, I think Andujar might be a better fit with his age and lesser salary than the other two.
Despite the fact he can’t hit anymore, I’d consider bringing Charlie Taylor back in the utility role as he can play multiple positions and can field them competently.
For CF I don’t see any good choices so I’d roll with Teodosio to start the season and see who takes a step forward on the farm whether its Lugo, Rada or somebody else.
There seem to be a number of starters who are still young (29-32) so out of Civale, Marquez, Paddack, King, Mahle, Eflin, Cease, Gallen et al there should be a couple who can be signed to go with Soriano, Kikuchi and Detmers.
I wouldn’t expect that team to have more than an outside chance at the playoffs as I think the younger players and prospects more time to play offers the best chance to compete down the line.
Yep. We can’t really blow it up now and build the farm. The resources we had to do that with, Ohtani, Rengifo, Ward, Jansen, Anderson etc have had issues or an owner that kept them from being moved when they had trade value.
But we aren’t in a position where we should BUY BUY BUY. Honestly, I disagree with the idea some have that we are anywhere close to a play off team and I expect the A’s to maybe be better than we are next year if they get some pitching. We may be in a spot where we basically hope the team drafts college position players NEXT draft and then we wait until they come along and THEN we maybe sign a couple big FAs. The “don’t tell me we need to waste three years” guys on here will likely need to waste three years either way…. at which point guys like Koochi and Adell may be gone. New holes to fill.
But at least we never gave in and did a rebuild. Right? We are in actual danger of starting to hope and plan for when Trout is off the books, not just Rendon.
I think your FA ideas will have the best shot at helping and do the least harm as far as burying our payroll and hurting our ability to make moves when the time comes. Teodosio is here, he’s cheap, he’s fun, and the alternatives are thin on the ground with the players likely to be much better than him costing a lot. I actually like the idea of using Pereza at 3B next year. Your idea of Miguel Andujar fits with that. He can play 3B/LF and I’d force some bad innings at 2B on him in the spring too. That’d make him useful in a mix with Pereza, who I know all the sad donkeys hate, but I think has the potential to be a better Rengifo when we get a “real 3B” whenever that can happen.
Looking at our farm and the FAs down the line. When exactly can that happen?
Honestly, I’d be fine with just Andujar, 2 Civale/Paddack type pitchers and a pen arm this winter. I don’t see any way to upgrade what we have very much, so we have to hope the younger players get better. For example, if O”hoppe shows up next year having worked his ass off and is now Salvi Perez and Trout stops approaching ABs like a pussy our line up picture looks a lot different and having a solid but not spectacular pitching staff may make us semi-contenders for real.
Honestly, if I had a choice between signing Michael King to add to next years roster or spending the same money on a huge pile of coaching and development for hitters in our system I’d do the later right now. See if we can speed up the development of some of the A Ball/AZL/DSL position players.
I don’t understand the desire to build around Adell. Other than dingers, his defense is below average, his OBP is below average, and his batting average is low. His RAA is -10.
His HR production takes him to a OPS+ of 107.
He should be a DH, but we already have too many players that only add value as a DH….
Manfraud is at it again. The new breed of ownership of MLB franchises is very different than what most of us grew up with in that it is not a family run operation any longer that the Commissioner of Baseball works for, it is corporate now. Why does that matter; more now than ever it is about making money instead of making the team or the league better for the fans it is all about $. The new breed of ownership does not care about tradition and as one example, it’s about the 2 leagues becoming two leagues called East & West, geography cities closer together to save money on travel to supposedly save wear and tear on the players. Example given is the Mets and Yankees in the same league. Remember a few years ago 34 minor league teams were pulled out of cities that for long periods of time had teams and then they didn’t.
Minor league stadiums now look like miniature big-league stadiums with increased prices to match including paying for parking. It’s about the money, not the players or fans, it’s about the investment.
NFL merged the AFL and NFL together while keeping the NL & AL monikers and it worked; NBA has the East and West and it works out for them, of course just about every team goes to post season. Hockey is geographical in its divisions, and everybody darn near goes to the playoffs and playoffs means more money all around.
Manfraud said that once the Oakland A’s and Tampa Bay Rays issues were fixed the expansion would become a reality and each has new stadiums coming and the ownership will want to copy the NFL profit sharing and there will be a cap and a floor in regards the salaries and the league will let the players strike and they will outlast the players.
MLB wants to add 2 additional teams asap, because the current rate to come on in is going to be around 30 billion dollars and the ownership gets that money. So, all divisions currently have 5 teams and adding 2 more teams will upset the apple cart so to speak making things uneven and to fix that remove American and National branding and put half the teams in the MLB East and the other half in MLB West and of the 16 teams within each side let 12 go to the playoffs
It’s coming down the pike and there is no stopping it, it is a new day and tradition be dammed along with the fans because as Pink Floyd sang it’s about the Money.
I grew up a baseball purist during the Big Red Machine era, but that ship has sailed. Back then I loved that the AL and NL were totally separate. I always pulled for the NL in the All-Star Game and the World Series because these stars had never faced each other and the outcome was unpredictable. Of course, I also biasedly believed the NL was stronger and that the AL was weak. I thought the DH was a gimmick and pitchers hitting made the NL the “pure” league. All of that changed once I started going to Angel games around 2000 and fell in love with the team, the fans, and the stadium.
Now the separation is gone. I still enjoy the city rivalries that interleague play created (especially this year), but I really miss the days of the unbalanced schedule where September was packed with division battles. That’s how you built a playoff atmosphere in the regular season.
At the same time, I’m a practical person. Since the AL/NL divide has already been watered down, I’d be fine with realignment. Expansion feels unnecessary aside from padding the league’s wallet, but it’s probably inevitable. I’ll still enjoy the game when it comes, and if MLB ever goes back to an unbalanced schedule, it might even make things more interesting again.
And who knows, maybe realignment would even help the Angels. Finishing above the Doyers or Trashtros would be incredible.
Yup. Jigger the leagues all you want. The Angels fighting to get over .500 will be the same pile of meh no matter what. And if the Angels start to “win the west” some years? I still won’t care about alignment because we are winning.
Screw all this regional stuff and realign division so that the premier teams are in the same division while the bottom feeders are all grouped together and then institute a relegation system so that teams move up or down based on how well they did the previous system. Imagine the fun of watching the Angels struggle to move out of the rock bottom division and then try to keep out of it the next season. It’d more fun than some silly championship playoff.
If they expanded big time, say teams mix in Orlando, SLC, Portland, San Antonio, Charlotte, Nashville, Oakland, Austin, Montreal, Vancouver, Indianapolis, OKC and maybe a second team in DFW area…. THEN I’d be really into the idea of a Premier/Champions league split with relegation. That would be wild but fun as hell.
You’d need crazy salary restrictions, etc like in the EPL….
Anyone who hasn’t created a LLC or something of that nature when purchasing a baseball team is kind of an idiot.
I don’t have any qualms about realignment whether it is to lessen travel or whatever reason. If it can help keep the WS in October instead of November, cool. Gasp, maybe even bring back doubleheaders.
“Why does that matter; more now than ever it is about making money instead of making the team or the league better for the fans it is all about $.”
I’ll let Jackie Robinson, Curt Flood, and Andy Messersmith take that one. It’s never been about the dollar?
Yup. I don’t care if the MLB aligns up like the NBA. There is no difference between the NL/AL anymore, so why not?
Mike should not be in the 3 hole, he should be 6 to 8, except Monty won’t move him down in the order because he is Mike Trout, performance be damned.
I’m curious, who do you recommend to play in the three spot? I thought the idea was to put someone in who won’t make an out so that Ward can bat with runners on, but I’m willing to admit that I may be wrong in my assumption.
Someone who won’t make an out, Mike is a “K” master. Watching first pitch down the middle for a strike.
OBP last 28 days .379
OBP last 14 days .377
OBP last 7 days .429
Yes, he strikes out a ton but so do most of the players that can be moved into the 3 hole.
I would flip Trout and Neto. Trout has the highest OBA on the team and Neto never walks. Let Neto get his hits with men on base.
The ONLY problem with this scenario is Trout’s balky knee. He certainly won’t attempt to steal bases at this juncture but, he still has the speed to go 1st to 3rd on singles – even if he’s likely in some level of pain afterwards. Still, is OBP is in the .360+ range despite the lack of hitting and high K rate.
I’m surprised that he continues to draw this many walks whilst he’s continuing to struggle at the plate. I expect the walks to drop off markedly in the coming games as I think opponents will elect to attack him more aggressively.
I agree but his knee is going to be what it is no matter where he is in the line up and he sees a lot of pitches. Also, for all the excitement about Neto’s stolen bases, he gets thrown out 30% of the time, which according to analysts make his base stealing a negative as opposed to a positive. He costs the team more runs than he gets them. He needs to be more selective in his attempts.
Trout has never hit for a lot of doubles in his career like say a Freeman has or as Albert did. In his best years he was in the high thirties, not forties or fifties. Mike has always had a big launch angle, like golfing balls low and inside. When he came up he had a more traditional swing level, it evolved into what you see now, a HR swing. He is no longer the Mike Trout of old and I hope he retires very soon instead of hanging out to long like Mantle and Mays did.