LA Angels Wednesday News Crash: Angels and A’s Battle for 4th place

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Angels News

Angels beat the A’s again. Jansen got his 10th save as an Angel and the Angels have won 5 in a row!

Christian Moore is being sent to AAA. That is very unusual, as the PCL really messes with hitters and pitchers due to altitude and the like. Maybe it is a confidence boost for him? He has been struggling this year in AA.

Around Baseball

Rain has pushed a Twins Guards game til SEPTEMBER as they play a doubleheader today. Cowards should play all 3 today. When was the last triple header anyway?

You know how old the best baseball players are now when 4 Kyle’s have 10 home runs this year. Logan and Taylor are on here at least.

Poor Pirates last scored 5 runs when they faced the Angels on April 22nd. They wish they were in the AL West the way Angels fans long for the AL Central.

At least no one expected Pitt to be good, Baltimore is bad AND had expectations. Why are they so bad? Well, apparently they did not get any pitchers, not even Sean Manaea.

Is that better or worse to be a Rockies fan though? And how did they get so bad? CBS investigates.

Scorigami is a Jon Bois invention on unique Football scoring. It has taken almost 9 years but someone has finally figured out a Baseball version. Is it any good?

Anything I missed? Post below for upvotes!

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milehigh
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2 hours ago

Ouch

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FungoAle
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8 minutes ago
Reply to  milehigh

Looks more like Willy Adames

Angelz4ever
Super Member
2 hours ago

BTW-Not one, but TWO Angel OFers have had balls roll between their legs in the last two games. I still don’t think Ward ever saw the ball go behind him through the wickets.

FungoAle
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7 minutes ago
Reply to  Angelz4ever

Props for Lugo to being right there when it went thru Wards legs, runner would have easily taken the extra base

Angelz4ever
Super Member
4 minutes ago
Reply to  FungoAle

Indeed.

Twebur
Legend
3 hours ago

Dino’s son also at Corona HS.

Corona HS (CA) SS/3B Brady Ebel remains one of better prep bats in the nation who doesn’t turn 18 until two weeks after draft; advanced in all aspects compliments of father’s pedigree and Mike Trout as support/mentorship; walked so much this year I barely got many swings on video

https://x.com/TaylorBlakeWard/status/1925240940765254141

JackFrost
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3 hours ago
Reply to  Twebur

Hopefully his eyesight is better than his father ; Dino “See No” Ebel.

Cowboy26
Legend
4 hours ago

“I was pissed at that at-bat,” Moncada said through an interpreter. “When I hit that (home run), I feel I had my soul back.”

Maybe Moncada should get pissed more often.

Twebur
Legend
3 hours ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Hope the Umps continue to F us if that is going to be the result.

JackFrost
Legend
3 hours ago
Reply to  Twebur

Paris got fooked by the HP Umpire who robbed him of a three walk game.

Angelz4ever
Super Member
2 hours ago
Reply to  JackFrost

The fluent strike zone this season is terrible for players, especially those like Trout & Schanny who lay off (For the most part) bad pitches. Now, if it is close (Within a foot of being a strike) you can’t let it go past you.

Twebur
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5 hours ago

Make the “Corona Kid” one of our Kids!!

Corona HS (CA) Seth Hernandez had a lot working today, including this sequence where he went 98 mph on his 86th pitch to finish his outing; CH only used on LHH while slider was real swing-and-miss weapon

https://x.com/TaylorBlakeWard/status/1925045364090142749

I did not know he’s Shohei

Corona HS (CA) Seth Hernandez, the hitter, has two three-run home runs today, no doubters, not bad for a dude who hit 97 on his final pitch of the sixth

https://x.com/TaylorBlakeWard/status/1924995209697624399

DMAGZ13
Trusted Member
5 hours ago
Reply to  Twebur

You can watch the CIF games on Hudl app for free if you have an account. Now that my young son plays somewhat competitive baseball I understand the game a lot more. I mean I’m a sports junky since 5 years old and coach sports and play too … but watching baseball now from the ground level is a different look. Watching the Corona team was fascinating, lots of hits right back up the middle. Pitching strikes.

Pineapple12
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4 hours ago
Reply to  Twebur

Angel

Mikeal1st
Trusted Member
6 hours ago

Reading the article on the Rockies and wondered if it was written by Sam Blum.

Twebur
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6 hours ago
Reply to  Mikeal1st

He seems to do stories on other teams too. He did a right up about PNC Park and the Pirates earlier this year, nothing related to the Angels. Probably out snooping around trying to dig up dirt on Art.

Senator_John_Blutarsky
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Damning indictment of the Rockies…..

“…..but the overarching point should be obvious by now. This Rockies organization seems untethered to results. A normal franchise would’ve made wholesale changes to its process and personnel. These Rockies don’t seem to know or don’t seem to care how far behind everyone else they’ve become. Which is worse? “

Angelz4ever
Super Member
7 hours ago

Why does this approach sound eerily familiar….?

Twebur
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6 hours ago
Reply to  Angelz4ever

Times have changed A4ever. We got new pitching and hitting tunnels in AZ. New food court and an ice cream machine. Above ground pool, super fast WiFi, place to do your laundry. Those extra big, extra thick shower towels, everyone gets a silk robe with their number on it, covered parking, one of those $25,000 high tech Toto toilets, takes a picture of your poop, emails it to Perry and Dr Nick.

NEW trAditions!

toad2065
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4 hours ago
Reply to  Twebur

 😱 

Angelz4ever
Super Member
2 hours ago
Reply to  Twebur

..and now we finally have a zero gravity treadmill…

Kevin
Member
6 hours ago

The Rockies columnists can cry foul if they want. I may be wrong, but I have thought for some time that the Rockies organization has had a fairly solid history posting records with a bunch of overachievers, has beens, and other “talent” they have strung together. Recently, it seems they stopped paying guys, and thus haven’t filled in various holes. I haven’t followed their draft history closely, but I think since 2000 they have developed a lot of players and done better than one might expect given their situation, a funky ballpark, and being a place it is likely hard to get free agents and other players in. Maybe I’m totally missing things. It’s unclear what fans expect, and the division with the Dodgers, what the Padres have done the last couple years, Giants and DBacks is basically a no-hoper each year for Colorado.

milehigh
Member
4 hours ago
Reply to  Kevin

Not sure what you mean. Including the 2011 season the Rockies have posted two seasons over .500. Those were 2017 and 2018. Yes they have been a bad org wrt to signing their own players, but just my opinion, I wouldn’t say they have had a fairly solid history posting records. Imho, there is no GM that can fix the Rockies or Angels.

FungoAle
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6 hours ago

Send Petty over to fix them. Promote Condon to 3rd, Zac Veen in CF, insert Dollander and Brecht as a No 3 and No. 4. starter. Come on Rockies, so lame.

Angelz4ever
Super Member
8 hours ago

There are unconfirmed reports that the Halos have employed the Three Stooges as defensive coaches.

MarineLayer
Super Member
7 hours ago
Reply to  Angelz4ever

And hitting too.

Twebur
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6 hours ago
Reply to  MarineLayer

Base running for sure.

Angelz4ever
Super Member
8 hours ago

Despite our defense’s best efforts, we won our fifth in a row.

Go Halos!!

Pineapple12
Super Member
8 hours ago

I’m sitting on the dock of the bay,
Watching the wins come our way.

What a fun stretch of baseball!
Yoan Moncada has been that dude. We are 12-7 in games he starts (excluding the game he got hurt after 1 AB vs TB).

83 PA
.229 / .349 / .486
134 OPS+
4 HRs
4 doubles
1 triple
26.5% K rate
13.3% BB rate
0.7 WAR

Moncada has been sensational. I’m interested in exploring what both a trade and extension would look like. He turns 30 on May 27.

Last edited 8 hours ago by Pineapple12
ErSTAN
Trusted Member
8 hours ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

Mea culpa—I wasn’t impressed by the Moncada signing at first. It felt like another typical PTP ‘washed dude’ deal. But he’s been awesome—2025’s Kevin Pillar. I’m in love! 😍

MarineLayer
Super Member
7 hours ago
Reply to  ErSTAN

It’s Minasian throwing crap against the wall and something actual stuck, at least for now. yay.

Twebur
Legend
6 hours ago
Reply to  MarineLayer

Perry will extend him for 2 years (definitely need a cheap 3rd baseman)
So, the crap that’s sticking now, will have time to dry and sluff off.

FungoAle
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6 hours ago
Reply to  MarineLayer

He’ll likely wash out and only be here a year, the shrapnel from the 430 foot blast will land by then

ErSTAN
Trusted Member
5 hours ago
Reply to  MarineLayer

A broken cock is hard twice a day.

BannedInLA
Super Member
3 hours ago
Reply to  ErSTAN

Comment of the day.

Jeff Joiner
Editor
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4 hours ago
Reply to  ErSTAN

Moncada was a good lottery ticket. Health has been his big concern and that is still an issue, but I was happy with the signing and would be fine with a reasonably priced extension.

FungoAle
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2 hours ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

Jorge Polanco, promoted by a few of you on the site, looking like a better fit.

smithy610
Super Member
7 hours ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

I haven’t really paid close attention to Moncada’s career, except I know he was a top prospect for awhile. So I don’t know the knock on him. Is it really just the injuries?

If he stays healthy and plays well enough, I wouldn’t be opposed to a 2-yr extension. It’s not like we have an exciting young prospect waiting at the hot corner.

JackFrost
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2 hours ago
Reply to  smithy610

He was part of the Chris Sale trade between the White Sox and Red Sox, which Boston cleary won as Sale was a key component in winning a World Championship, while Moncada fizzled in Chicago…

Pineapple12
Super Member
2 hours ago
Reply to  JackFrost

Moncada put up 5.1 WAR in 2019 and 4.1 WAR in 2021.

Injuries derailed his production the last several years, but it wasn’t like he was some bum that fizzled out of the league because he sucks.

Tim Anderson fizzled.

JackFrost
Legend
1 hour ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

Hmmm… I had not remembered him having WAR like that..Looking back just now it seems 2019 was his only good season. He had only one other year where he hit over .270, most others being around .230 to .260 with years of .212 and .225 sprinkled in.

Other than 2019 he didn’t light the world on fire. In 2021 he only hit .263 with 14 HR and SLG of .412. The only reason he had decent WAR that year was that he walked alot.

Last edited 1 hour ago by JackFrost
Pineapple12
Super Member
1 hour ago
Reply to  JackFrost

He hasn’t been able to live up to the lofty expectations set on him as a prospect, but he’s been pretty good. Really about health. Saying that, I would be nervous extending/re-signing him.

Last edited 1 hour ago by Pineapple12
Roy Hobbs
Super Member
5 hours ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

We should trade everybody. You can still re-sign them over the winter.

Pineapple12
Super Member
2 hours ago
Reply to  Roy Hobbs

I lean this way too. However, if we are in the divisional race, I’d prefer to try and win it (no, doesn’t mean be a buyer like 2023 lol)

Pineapple12
Super Member
8 hours ago

5/20 Top Prospect Performance:
Christian Moore in his AAA debut.

3/4 (all singles)
2 RBIs
1 walk
1 strikeout

👑 Luis’ reign at 2nd base is nearing its end. I firmly believe that the motivation behind calling CMo up to AAA is to get him hot to then justify bringing him up to the majors.

Last edited 8 hours ago by Pineapple12
FungoAle
Legend
6 hours ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

Sure. Rush him to the big leagues. Expose his weakness. Break confidence. Demote (or leave him on the roster to avoid looking like a mistake was made). Minassian 4-yr philosophy in a nutshell.

RexFregosi
Super Member
6 hours ago
Reply to  FungoAle

ah, but tickets they will sell!

yes, think of the tickets and Moore jerseys that will get sold.

Pineapple12
Super Member
5 hours ago
Reply to  FungoAle

I actually don’t agree with what they’re doing with CMo, but that’s my read on the situation.

I do think that Wash is the coach within the org that can help him the most. We’ll see what happens.

grichmanpoorman
Trusted Member
5 hours ago
Reply to  FungoAle

Yes, Perry really broke Neto. And Schanny. And Joyce (elbows don’t count).

Senator_John_Blutarsky
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Which MLB teams are actually trying? Charting a divided league’s haves and have-nots
Andy McCullough

May 21, 2025 10:00 am UTC

In the eyes of Major League Baseball executives, money alone cannot guarantee you the World Series. To capture a title requires execution, determination and, perhaps most of all, good fortune. The baseball postseason can be a crapshoot, especially in its recently expanded format.

What money does provide, executives on both sides of MLB’s payroll divide will tell you, is more opportunities to win it all. If October is a lottery, spending helps produce more tickets. The correlation between spending and winning is obvious. A team with a top-10 payroll has won five of the past six championships. The outcome last October made the sport’s disparity appear even starker.

The most recent World Series pitted the team with the sport’s largest competitive-balance tax payroll, the Los Angeles Dodgers, against the team ranked third on that list, the New York Yankees. (The second-place club, the New York Mets, lost to the Dodgers in the National League Championship Series.) The Dodgers have paid for a top-five CBT payroll in every season since Mark Walter’s Guggenheim group purchased the club midway through 2012. The team has not missed the postseason since 2013. The Yankees have appeared in the postseason in seven of the past eight years; their payroll has ranked in the top six each season.

The conversation about baseball’s haves and have-nots bled into the offseason, as the Dodgers, Yankees and Mets tossed around hundreds of millions while nine teams declined to sign any player to a multiyear contract. All of this has occurred as the sport’s collective bargaining agreement approaches its expiration date. A labor stoppage is expected to occur as the owners and the Major League Baseball Players Association negotiate a new agreement after the 2026 season. The duration and severity of that stoppage may depend on the willingness of ownership to push for a salary cap.

For fans caught between the coasts, rooting for teams who lack the revenue-producing force of Dodgers two-way star Shohei Ohtani or the deep pockets of Mets owner Steve Cohen, a common complaint is “The owner isn’t trying to win.” The simplest, most public way for any owner to demonstrate a commitment to winning is through spending, either on free agents, by trading for high-salaried players or by inking top prospects to extensions.
With another work stoppage on the horizon, we thought it would be worthwhile to create a visual representation of that principle, at least as it has occurred during the life cycle of this current CBA, which began in 2022. On the X-axis, we plotted regular-season winning percentage during that period. On the Y-axis, we plotted CBT payroll, as compiled by Baseball Prospectus. The scatterplot revealed four distinct groups, one clear anomaly — and insight into the current competitive landscape.

Powerhouses

NYY, NYM, LAD, ATL, SD, PHI, HOU: They shouldn’t be hard to identify. The Dodgers have set the standard for the sport in recent years. The Mets have actually out-spent the Dodgers during this period, although the most expensive Mets team, the 2023 version, missed the postseason. Both clubs have surpassed the Yankees as the sport’s preeminent spenders.

For fans wondering why their owners have declined to pursue big-name free agents, the presence of the San Diego Padres and the Philadelphia Phillies in this quadrant will be galling. Not long ago, both clubs were doormats. The two clubs have joined the sport’s upper crust in recent years, thanks to an infusion of spending. Peter Seidler, the late Padres owner, financed the club’s renaissance, which has led to packed houses at Petco Park. The same phenomenon is on display at Citizens Bank Park, where the Phillies have become a regular postseason entrant.

Overachievers
BAL, TB, SEA, CLE, TOR: There is a small cluster of franchises capable of contending while avoiding high-priced free agents. Tampa Bay has set the standard for this group — there’s a reason why teams in markets both big and small have been poaching their executives for the past decade. The success of some clubs stems from geographical advantage: the Cleveland Guardians, for example, have been able to capitalize on playing in the once-weak American League Central.

The problem with this space is that it can be hard to stay there forever. The Baltimore Orioles fired manager Brandon Hyde last week after a wretched start to the season, which followed a winter in which general manager Mike Elias could not land an upper-tier arm to improve the pitching staff. Last October the Rays missed the postseason for the first time since 2018, and look bound for another losing record this year. In Milwaukee, where the Brewers have reached the postseason in six of the past seven seasons, a recent run at the top of the National League Central could be upended by the resurgent, big-market Chicago Cubs.

Stuck In The Middle
CIN, DET, MIN, AZ, STL, SF, CHC, TOR, BOS, TEX: Herein reside some of the sport’s most frustrated fanbases. This group contains some of baseball’s more venerated franchises: the Cubs, the Boston Red Sox, the St. Louis Cardinals and the San Francisco Giants. They aren’t rebuilding but they aren’t exactly operating, as Boston chairman Tom Werner infamously declared heading into 2024, at “full throttle.” These teams are good enough to avoid last-place finishes, but haven’t developed talent like the overachievers have and don’t spend as the powerhouses do. Still, sometimes this group buys just enough lottery tickets: the Texas Rangers won the World Series in 2023, and the Detroit Tigers are off to a rip-roaring start in 2025.

The Basement
PIT, MIA, KC, WSH, ATH, CWS, COL: The basement can be a place for despair. In pitcher Paul Skenes, the Pittsburgh Pirates were gifted through the draft a generational talent. The club has done little to build around him in the present, leading to a last-place standing in the National League Central and a losing record for Skenes. What a bummer.

The good news: Life in the basement isn’t permanent. After seven losing seasons in a row, the Kansas City Royals were aggressive in the free-agent market heading into 2024, signing a pair of pitchers, Seth Lugo and Michael Wacha, who helped the club return to the postseason. The club is contending again in 2025; it helps to have superstar shortstop Bobby Witt Jr. signed to a $288.8 million contract that could keep him in Kansas City for the entirety of his career. The Athletics also added salary this past winter after several years without spending.

The bad news: The depths of the basement have never been lower. The Chicago White Sox lost 121 games in 2024, besting the benchmark for futility set by the 1962 Mets. The White Sox aren’t much better this year — but they are far better than the current edition of the Colorado Rockies, who entered Tuesday’s games on pace for 134 losses. Given the hyper-competitive nature of the National League West, Colorado might set a new record with ease.

The Anomaly: the Angels
It may be unfair to single out the Angels. But, well, look at the plot (i.e. in the “Basement”, but has spent the most to reside in the basement). The franchise stands alone. No team in recent memory has spent more and achieved less. The team’s last postseason appearance came in 2014. The club wasted the prime of Mike Trout and let Ohtani depart in free agency. And its own expenditures have proved disastrous: Anthony Rendon has 3.9 wins above replacement, according to Baseball-Reference, during the first five seasons of his seven-year, $245 million deal, and he may not take another at-bat for the club.

Owner Arte Moreno regularly permits his executives to spend, although the club tends to avoid going over the luxury tax. That relative largesse has led to little winning, which makes the club an anomaly in this era.

RexFregosi
Super Member
8 hours ago

The chart that came with this was the Chart of the Day!

we are indeed special.

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Legend
Reply to  RexFregosi

Agree. We are alone on an island…..spending a lot of money to reside in what the author defined as the “basement”.

We do have the fallback that “at least we’re not the Rockies“.

Last edited 8 hours ago by Senator_John_Blutarsky
MarineLayer
Super Member
6 hours ago

I’d call it the RenDone plus now Trout category. Spending a ton of long term money for nothing, as an excuse to not do anything..

Mikeal1st
Trusted Member
6 hours ago

‘ve won about as many playoff games.

CAoldskoll
Trusted Member
6 hours ago
Reply to  RexFregosi

Not the good definition of ‘special’ more like Jerry’s kids, and special Olympics

TrojanBoiler
Super Member
44 minutes ago
Reply to  RexFregosi

Just saw the chart lol it sure is something

JackFrost
Legend
8 hours ago

Well, the idea of separating teams into tiers based upon spending makes sense on the surface, but it is ultimately misleading and shortsighted. I mean, to call a team like the Tigers “stuck in the middle” is way off. Anybody who has seen them play knows they are for real and have a legitimate shot to win it all in the postseason.

Look at what they did last year in ther run to the playoffs and especially in sweeping the perennial powerhouse Houston Astros in the Wild Card series.

As for this season they are leading the highly competitive AL Central by an impressive 5 games and have won series’ against the Yankees, Padres, Twins, and Mariners. They also have the best run differential in MLB at + 64.

“Stuck in the Middle” they are NOT.

So yes, while payroll is a big factor in ultimate success, it is not everything, and there are other recent examples like the Kansas City Royals to support that.

Last edited 8 hours ago by JackFrost
steelgolf
Legend
6 hours ago

The Los Angeles Anomalies!

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Legend
Reply to  steelgolf

Anomalies, Amenities, Anemones…it’s all the same

RexFregosi
Super Member
6 hours ago

Anonymouses of Anaheim

steelgolf
Legend
4 hours ago

Well, me I got a bottle in front of me, Adell is a Los Angeles Anomaly.

Mikeal1st
Trusted Member
5 hours ago
Reply to  steelgolf

That sounds like it could be a thing.

toad2065
Trusted Member
4 hours ago
Reply to  steelgolf

Don’t you mean the Los Angeles Anomalies of Anaheim?

smithy610
Super Member
9 hours ago

As Troy Glaus is my all-time favorite Angel, it’s nice to see a mid-tier imitation of him, like 20+ years later. Even if it’s most likely only going to be for a short while.

Mikeal1st
Trusted Member
5 hours ago
Reply to  smithy610

It would be interesting to find out everybody’s favorite Angel. I think I’d have to go with Trout, but I think Ryan may be the greatest.

2pints
Trusted Member
5 hours ago
Reply to  Mikeal1st

Robb Quinlan

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Legend
Reply to  2pints

The “gut” Paul Mcanulty

red floyd
Legend
3 hours ago
Reply to  2pints

I liked Q.

My fave is probably Fregosi, though.

Eric_in_Portland
Legend
5 hours ago
Reply to  Mikeal1st

Hilly Hathaway

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
4 hours ago
Reply to  Mikeal1st

Mickey Rivers  🙂 

toad2065
Trusted Member
4 hours ago
Reply to  Roy Hobbs

Garrett Anderson in a landslide!

Twebur
Legend
1 hour ago
Reply to  Mikeal1st

Zack Cozart

toad2065
Trusted Member
4 hours ago
Reply to  smithy610

Disagree. Moncada looks like the best third baseman we’ve had since Glaus. He also appears to fit in well and to be enjoying himself. I’m going for a long, happy marriage!

2pints
Trusted Member
4 hours ago
Reply to  toad2065

Figgins had some solid seasons at 3B

red floyd
Legend
3 hours ago
Reply to  2pints

Figgy worked his ass off to become an All Star quality 3B.

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