The Mets finished off the Phillies and will go to the NLCS. The Dodgers won one against the Padres to force a game 5 in their NLDS. This will be back at Dodger Stadium, so they probably better call out the National Guard. Ken Rosenthal wrote an article critical of Manny Machado and the Padres after that game 2 mess, so the Padres boycotted in-game interviews with him.
The Yankees defeated the Royals to take a 2-1 advantage in their ALDS. Detroit won one to take the 2-1 advantage in their series against the Guardians.
Apparently, a “crazy offer” might be enough for Arte Moreno to consider selling the Angels.
MLB itself will produce and broadcast local games for the Twins, Brewers, and Guardians in 2025.
Major Astros mistake Jose Abreu will play winter ball in Puerto Rico in an attempt to get ready for a 2025 return to the big leagues. Any takers? Speaking of Astros, Mauricio Dubon will be having thumb surgery.
The Red Sox are cleaning house in the coaching department.
Hurricane Milton tore the roof off of Tropicana Field.
Luis Tiant passed away at the age of 83.
Photo credit: Rex Fregosi
With all the attention of teams in the big media markets and also those lovable WC teams, my hunch is it’s Cleveland that ends up on top.
Or maybe just ignore this post in an hour.
Want to know why we are not “the most victim fans always beaten on unfairly by owner so mean and cheap”? Look at today’s MLB news.
The Twins are finally being sold by a family that let them languish for most of 40 years while they collected revenue sharing. Then got a new stadium built, promising a payroll bump in their new home, but didn’t do it.
God Himself decided that Tropicana Field is a depressing hell hole and ripped its roof off to get a little light in there. The Rays still can’t even hope for a new home.
The Brewers had another great season. Plenty of sell outs. Another play off run. To celebrate, they announced they are totally willing to trade their awesome closer before he gets all expensive. Just like their staff ace last season. Fun times.
Angels fans must suffer through an owner who spends too much on free agents that are 29 years old and isn’t transparent enough. Oh and is Trumpy. Not since the Jews in ancient Egypt has a group of people suffered so.
All of those other teams are really good orgs that have very little hope most of the time and their situations just aren’t likely to change ever.
I get the feeling you like harassing fans because they’re fanatical. But you know, whatever you point out has no effect
Thank the Lord. Someone brought up the tired as fk “Fan IS short for fanatic…. shrug. smile.” trope again.
I’m just sayin, could be worse. If you want to enjoy focusing on how blistered and battered your own Angels fan backhole is I’m not expecting you to give up on that hobby at all just cause folks in Milwaukee have it worse. Wallow away my friend.
As for me, I may be a bit sore now, but I’m glad to be an Angels fan instead of a life long Twins fan as far as the future goes.
No offense and with all due respect but you’re exactly the guy I wouldn’t want to have a beer with. You’re, in your way, just like tootie
Nah bro. We’d have fun.
So, when the Diamondbacks move to Portland, the Angels move to Phoenix and the Rays move to Anaheim, the Twins can move to Tampa and everyone is happy, except for those malcontents in the Twin Cities.
No. No one can be happy…. just Dodgers, Yankees and sometimes Red Sox fans. Maybe, sometimes, Cubs and Phillies fans. everyone else must always be unhappy for some reason.
You’re such a downer Perry.
The Twin Cities will get an expansion team. The fans will vote. They will be called The Lemon Bars. Life will still suck there. Believe me. I know. I’m Perry.
Just because others suffer worse does not invalidate your own suffering.
And exactly how did the Rays, Twins suffer more than the Angels?!
Twins had a 101-win season in 2019. And since 2014, has been to the playoffs 4 times, most recently as 2023.
Rays? We all know how the Rays are one of the model franchises in MLB in not spending money but still churns out competitive teams every single year.
Pirates? Still made the playoffs more recently the the Angels.
Twins are up for sale – Arte will be watching that.
Do you truly think if you say it enough it will happen?
If he sells, he sells.
If he doesn’t, he doesn’t.
that statement is the kind you give when you don’t intend to sell. It’s an “I suppose it’s possible, theoretically, I guess” response
Yep. The way crazy Arte seems to work, he’ll make meh statements like this every now and again cause reporter needs words said and nothing will happen.
Then we’ll wake up some morning and a pending sale to Temu Corp will have been announced.
Brent Strom who was Enright’s boss was fired by Arizona. Maybe we should hire him to be Enright’s boss here. It would be nice to have a boss for once, Enright was pretty meh last year, in my opinion.
Huh? I thought Enright was one of the few bright spots on the season. Other than the implosion of Detmers, he did an incredible job with the staff he had.
Joyce and Soriano made huge improvements under him. Anderson had a bounce back year. Kochanowicz ended the year under 4 ERA. Estevez stumbled out of the gate but Enright quickly got him on track and he was absolutely lights out until we traded him.
Enright cobbled together a capable bullpen made of scrap pile cast offs.
Strickland – 3.3 ERA
Crouse – 2.8 ERA
Fulmer – 4.15 ERA, but was ~3.5 before he transitioned to a starter.
I would give the Nick Adenhart award to Enright if I could. Probably the best hire last year under Wash. Reid imploding when Barry was able to make something useful out of the likes of Strickland, Fulmer, Crouse, etc., and making legit starters out of Sori, Tyler and Jack, even if they’re not aces, tells me Reid is an anomaly more than the rule.
I’m more disappointed with Johnny Washington honestly. I thought our young hitters would take the next step with him at the helm, but it was a lot of “one step forward, two steps backward” with Jo, Nolan, Logan, Zach, Mickey, etc.
And Wash gotta clean up that defense. It was atrocious (eye test).
Bu bu but….. there were pitchers who were not good before who were still not good. BE ANGRY! Demand better! I real winner or whiner isn’t satisfied till every pitcher on the roster has a WHIP under 1.00! Enright is MEDIOCRE.
Is anybody using the MLB app to watch the playoffs, and if so how is it?
Yup.
It’s good. You won’t get the postgame recap, however.
You see the original broadcast? I bout it through MLB app years ago and I only got certain cameras. Can I purchase it through MLB app or do I need to have a subscription through a TV service?
you dont need a subscription with a TV service, just MLB TV
So I have the app on my tv but run it through a vpn to avoid blackouts. Just realized these games are all prob blacked out
You can get sling TV which is cheap af and get the option with FS1 … I’m sure they have a free trial period
ive had MLB TV for years, and the playoffs are fine also. same broadcasts as on TV, plus last night i chose NYY radio and listened to John and Susan instead of Bob & Ron.
Wait. I see now you can’t watch the games with MLB TV – you can, but have to have a TV subscription to TBS/TNT
Yeah. You can use their app… sure. Just don’t stop paying for cable ever.
the trick is unlocator dot com. F these cable companies.
Estevez was a key component in the Phillies bitter playoff loss, and to a lesser extent Marsh was as well. Minasian clearly won both trades. Let’s hope Minasian does not attempt to re-sign Carlos as a FA.
Why not? One outing and he’s unsignable?
I have no problem with him coming back. Good guy, good pitcher.
Maybe it makes him a better deal?
I doubt he will. I think the plan is for Joyce + 1 (Stephenson?) to get the bulk of the saves next year.
Come on Padres!
Padres got Diddy’ed last night…..without the Diddy Oil.
Go Friar Tuck!
From the interview with Fletcher:
“I can’t tell you about the future,” Moreno said (as relayed by Fletcher) “If someone makes some stupid, crazy offer, I’ve got to do what’s best for the family. I do the best I can to run it as a business.” While it seems unlikely that a sale will ultimately come together given the fact that Moreno seemingly set the bar at a “crazy offer” in order to get a deal done, the comments are still nonetheless a notable shift in tone from just eight months ago for the longtime owner.
This is great stuff on many fronts. Primarily the door is open to a sale. The marketing bullshit (Oct) “unfinished business’ is not mentioned.
Also – we get an admission that he is running the team as a ‘business’. That presumably means if he loses money, he will be motivated to sell. This, to me, confirms our best strategy is to go after his pocketbook and stay away from giving him any money. The TV rights deal is going to hurt his pocketbook so it is doubtful his “competitive’ comments were any more real than his ‘unfinished business’ comments when he took the team off the market.
Finally we get his mindset. He wants a “crazy” offer. In short he wants to personally win. He is that guy. So hopefully some quality ownership group comes along and offers $3.5B.
The problem I have with a strategy of hitting Arte in the pocketbook is it might convince a new owner that the OC won’t support a team and we’ll be watching the Portland Angels.
Understood. But (and it’s a BIG butt) no one is leaving a market like OC and LA for Portland. It will never happen. When the Rams left OC for St Louis, the market was minuscule compared to now. This and New York are the biggest markets. Portland is a small market.
So the Angels aren’t leaving So Cal. And any buyer knows that if a decent team is put on the field, the stands will be packed. Our only way to vote as fans (where we are heard) is with our pocketbook.
You had me at pocketbook.
Portland is no threat. It is an absolute mess at this point.
The only way any team leaves SoCal is if SoCal makes it impossible, or much much more expensive, to replace a stadium. IT WILL RUN LIKE A BUSINESS. The A’ss are leaving a larger market. Ownership will do the math. Teams are profitable, more so in SoCal, but if it costs an extra 1.5 Billion to get a stadium done here as apposed to Nashville, and the team would take 12 years to make back the difference from all the wonderfulness of being in LA, they will consider moving. It also matters that owning and running a team in California costs a lot more than in San Antonio.
You have to really frustrate an owner to get them to leave California. But Californians can do it. We’re THAT good.
Maricopa County doesn’t get their act together and Snakes move to Portland.
They scramble and go after the Angels.
Arte can chose Phoenix or Oakland.
So, the Los Angeles Angels of Phoenix or Oakland?
*sigh*
Will.Never.Happen
When the Rams (and the Raiders) left, LA/OC was the #2 media market in the nation. St. Louis was #21. It was all about MONEY. Lots of money from the taxpayers of St. Louis to line ownership pockets. Tossed in was a shiny new dome (not a hacked baseball park that was ruined by the construction) – oh, and more MONEY from things like “Personal Seat Licenses”.
Additionally, the Beloved Cowboy blocked the parking lot development deal the Rams were working on with the city. So, they went where the MONEY was. Had Anaheim bent over farther to subsidize the team with taxpayer dollars in the way they do for the mouse, it’s unlikely the St. Louis Rams would have ever existed.
georgia.wav – Willie Nelson singing: “Georgia had her husband killed…”
Nobody is paying SoCal prices to move a team to Portland. Whoever buys the Angels will be buying it as a glamour franchise probably with a desire to build a new stadium they get to design.
With the right ownership and management the Angels would be a major destination for players right where they are.
Fans boycotting bad owners is nothing new. It shows that they care, not that they’re apathetic.
Joe Lacob, what are you waiting for????
Yes!!
I would really love it if the new owner embrace the OC and return the name to Anaheim Angels. That’s the team that won the WS, and that’s really where the team is. F*ck LA and their “big market”. This team just needs to embrace who they are and return to their roots. Good fan juju will soon follow.
I mean, I agree in theory but It is highly doubtful the team will return to the “Anaheim Angels” because Anaheim is such a small city compared to Los Angeles. That impacts revenue streams which means it is not going to happen no matter how good it would feelz. Arte changed the name for a reason namely the additional advertising and television revenue he could generate as a Los Angeles team rather than an Anaheim team. If a new owner pays billions for the team he/she is not going with a small market moniker.
I get it, and obviously any new owner is going to want trucks of $$$$$$ on his ROI. But I wasn’t thinking of “Anaheim” as just the city of Anaheim. I’m thinking more of it as the team that represents the whole of OC, which has grown into a significant market over the decade. SoCal has clearly evolved into 3 distinct, separate parts – LA, OC and San Diego. The Angels would be that team to represent the second one, with its own distinct identity, rather than trying to cozy up to big brother’s market and end up being totally unwanted and mocked anyway.
The OC Angels?
Due to the links with a charter Pacific Coast League team, I’d rather they stuck with the Los Angeles moniker. Failing that, I wouldn’t mind going back to California Angels.
The name Los Angeles Angels has been in existence since 1906.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Los_Angeles_Angels
This is more likely because calling them the Tustin Angels or even OC Angels is lame. But I think there may be trouble with “California” if I remember right?
It’s unlikely the league will allow it, given that in 1966 there were only two other teams in the state, and the Angels were the sole AL team. Colorado, Arizona, Minnesota are all the only team in the state.
Eh. Maybe they’d allow it…. don’t see why the Saudi prince who buys the Angels would want anything other than LA though….
Saudi Prince? Wonder if we’ll get spring training games in the Persian Gulf?
Might be cheaper than current ST games…..
You remind me of the people I know in NJ who want the Jets to be the Hackensack Jets. If you don’t live in the superburbs like Anaheim it just sounds silly as fk.
NEWOWNERZTHEUNICORM is just as likely to try to move the team closer to LA if they are trying to “Glamourize”. Inglewood seems to really love letting team owners ride roughshod over them…. South LA? West LA?
I almost expect a new owner to pursue this if they have to go looking for land and have a huge pile of money.
Excuse me – it’s East Rutherford Jets, as well as East Rutherford Giants. Hackensack is nowhere near close. Fake NJ’ers.
I think they may have been talking about the river that goes through there? I dunno. North New Jersey sucks. I’d rather learn more about Yemen than that place.
I completely agree that this latest interview with Moreno signals a shift, even if subtle. It’s encouraging to hear the possibility of a sale, especially since he’s acknowledged running the Angels as a “business.” It seems clear that financial motivations could drive him to let go of the team if things go south, particularly with the TV rights mess looming large.
That said, we’ve seen this before with Moreno. He’s flip-flopped so many times on whether he’s committed to the franchise or how to build a team that it’s hard to take any of this at face value. The “unfinished business” talk last year, then taking the team off the market, now hinting at a possible sale again—he’s unpredictable. Moreno has run the Angels this way for more than a decade, making it difficult to pin down what he really wants. Part of me wonders if he’s holding out not because of a deep-rooted desire to keep look competent, or simply because he’s having a tough time letting go of control.
It could be that Moreno, at his age, is nearing the point where he’ll finally step away—perhaps only because he’s no longer capable of running the team. Frankly, one could argue that might have already happened ten years ago, considering the string of poor decisions during his ownership tenure.
If we’re lucky, a serious offer will come in and provide a real exit for him. Until then, fans will be stuck waiting for Moreno’s next change of heart.
Good points. I agree.
same old nothing. Arte’s not selling. At least there’s nothing here to indicate he is.
I agree. “Crazy Offer” has “Crazy” right in the name. He is saying “I will not sell unless some fool grossly overpays me.”
This is likely the case.
Team’s always been a business, and that’s fine. It’s pretty much always been about 9th in valuation. Also about 9th in payroll. Even it’s operating costs are pretty in line, cheapness and all.
This is why I just don’t buy the “New Owner Unicorm” theory. Who ever buys the team isn’t gonna buy it to lose money, so it will likely operate similarly. A new owner CAN do things to expand it’s value a little. Bigger markets allow for wider expansion than small ones and better sponsors, etc can help when the team’s good. But we’re never gonna be at the level of the Cubs or Red Sox.
NewOwnerzUnicormCorp may buy the team, but unless we get a Tigers/Padres situation where a guy wants to spend into a hole so he can win before he dies we aren’t gonna see a huge jump in payroll, etc.
That’s fine. Around 190M is currently a strong payroll. If we get new owners, hopefully they sign big contracts that work out better, or are just plain less stupid than signing Pujols, Hamilton and trading for Wells. We all know this. Plus we all would prefer having a 180M payroll and spending on the farm. If the Angels run right we are basically the Braves/Cardinals. They are in our same ballpark. It would be awesome if some folks put together 2.8 billion dollars and went into buying the Angels intending to run like those teams instead of trying to be “The Red Dodgers”.
But they will, indeed, run the team like a business. Only stupid people expect otherwise.
This is my logic and expectations when it comes to how a new owner will come in if they purchase the Angels. I want Arte to 100% sell the team because he simply refuses to invest in player development, minor league facilities, and has a front office staff that’s equal to the Ontario Reign’s. I’ve given up hope of Arte deciding to invest in the lower levels, where you truly see a big ROI.
Orange County has also proven to be a very solid fan base. Even this year as the Angels were the laughing stock of the league, people still went to the stadium and supported the team during the worst year in franchise history by all aspects. The market size is second to NY, and there’s a great opportunity for new ownership to buy the 150 acres from Anaheim and build their own stadium and surrounding development. With the Samueli’s already underway with their OC Vibe project, and the Angels can sell for $3 billion. Will Arte accept an offer of $3 billion? I guess that’s all gonna depend on how much Diamond Sports Group forks up in their decreased TV deal.
Yah. Arte’s not the worst owner ever, and new owners don’t change much automatically. But it’s like a manager or coach that’s done OK in the past but not fantastic. After a while it just gets old. It would be nice if he sold just for the sake of getting new brains around. Like when Jim Mora coached the Saints. Could be worse. Also won’t really hurt to roll the dice on something fresh.
New owners would have me at hello if they just ditched that lame ass Train song at the beginning of games and changed the uniforms.