Angels lose to Rays 4-2

Jose Soriano got the chance to start and he looked electric. Electric in the sense that it was fascinating and terrifying at the same time. His stuff looked great, but his command did not. Like a jagged line, his pitches were all over the place. All in all, he went 4 innings, giving up 4 runs on 6 hits, striking out 6 and walking none. Not the most ideal first start, but it could have been worse.

6k!

Unfortunately, the Angels bats couldn’t capitalize on the opposing pitcher’s bad pitching. Like Soriano, he also had trouble with command, even walking the bases loaded. Yet somehow, he went through 4 and a third only allowing 1. Blowing golden opportunities, that’s Angels baseball.

That’s a Series Loss and it stings since it could have very well gone the other way.

Highlighted Recap

Soriano blew it with a wild pitch in the first. That was a bit unfair, as Logan could have maybe kept that from getting by him.

2-0 Rays

A sac fly makes it worse.

3-0 Rays in the first

solo shot in the 2nd makes it a big 4-0 hole for the Angels early.

4-0 Rays in the 2nd

But the Angels do score, getting their first in the 4th with a Neto RBI single.

4-1 Rays

Things get closer in the 6th when Jo Adell hits a home run!

4-2 Rays

With 1 on in the 8th, there was a chance to tie the gam-WHAT ARE YOU DOING JO!?

Bruh

Angels lose 4-2.

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No game tomorrow, but guess who the Angels face this weekend? Yes, the Red Sox. AGAIN. At least it will be over with soon.

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DowningDude
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1 month ago
Reply to  Mia

All part of falling on the sword for Ohtani

😂

Angels2020Champs
Legend
1 month ago
Reply to  DowningDude

The danger of believing in single stories…. Ménage a toris for me, good! For you, shame!! Gamble for me, good! For you, bhhhaaaad! Unicorn horn falleth off, I don’t see I’ll super glue it back on!

#FREEIPPEI April 27th!!

Simba
Trusted Member
1 month ago

Is a Ménage a tori a Ménage a trois with Tori as the third?

Mia
Legend
Mia
1 month ago
Reply to  DowningDude

And the feds are just playing along. That MLB deep state.

FungoAle
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Mia

Ohtani lost me when he said he knew nothing about it in March while in Korea when ESPN knew about the money transfers 2-3 months earlier. I read where CBS is in contact with Ippei’s reps for a up and coming TV mystery series remake, The Fall Guy.

AngelsFanInHell
Trusted Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Mia

#FreeIppei

I have a hard time believing anything that says that it is 100% on Ippei. Neither Ippei nor Oswald acted alone.

Last edited 1 month ago by AngelsFanInHell
Mia
Legend
Mia
1 month ago

I mean, if you refuse to believe sourcing from some of the biggest publications in the country idk what to tell you.

I guess if you try hard enough you can find a conspiracy under any rock. God knows it’s en vogue to go against the narrative these days. People like feeling like they see the truth while everyone else just mindlessly believes.

Believe what you will, just sharing the reporting that cites multiple sources.

Charles Sutton
Editor
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Mia

I rarely believe the feds, but it’s not because of this.

Angels2020Champs
Legend
1 month ago
Reply to  Charles Sutton

If it doesn’t come from homeland security, I just don’t believe it!

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clover_black
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Mia

Trust the feds is … something.

Mia
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Mia
1 month ago
Reply to  clover_black

It’s funny to me that the same users who will argue until they are blue in the face that we should sign Bauer because he was cleared, are the same ones that refuse to believe it when it’s Ohtani being cleared.

They’d have me believe the authorites in one case, but not the other.

Quite curious.

clover_black
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Mia

When the video drops of ippei with a shit eating grin stuffing a duffle bag full of cash while ohtani is sound asleep, I’ll gladly change my stance.

Mia
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Mia
1 month ago
Reply to  clover_black

Does the bag say ACME on the side? 😂

bobblanton
Trusted Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Mia

There are millions of reasons for zipper to fall on the sword. MLB and the Dodgers are not going to let their golden child get any bad press if they can help it Too much money involved for Shohei’s perceived perfectness to be discredited by natural human failings. Remember nobody is perfect and that is okay. What is not ok is letting your friend take the fall so the lie can continue so MLB and the Dodgers can make their Asian money.

Mia
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Mia
1 month ago
Reply to  bobblanton

What I find funny is the idea that the feds just go along with it.

Guest
1 month ago
Reply to  Mia

You’re one of the few people here who always gave Shohei the benefit of the doubt, despite being put down by almost everyone else. Maybe men (I assume) are more susceptible to conspiracy theories. Anyway, much less of a fan of the Angels now. I sympathize with you (and Trout) in your loyalty.

Mia
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Mia
1 month ago
Reply to 

I think a lot of people here are more hurt over him leaving than they’d care to admit. And believing he is a villain now is easier on their minds.

DowningDude
Legend
1 month ago
Reply to  Mia

I think we just enjoy seeing the Dodgers squirming for once.

smithy610
Super Member
1 month ago

Sam Blum
@SamBlum

It’s pretty hard to get Mike Trout out right now.

He’s on a 12-for-33 stretch that includes 5 homers and 5 walks, as well. Perhaps most notable, he has just 3 strikeouts in his last 39 plate appearances.

Maybe he really relishes being THE MAN again.

Last edited 1 month ago by smithy610
matthiasstephan
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  smithy610

Maybe he was always the Man, he was just hurt. This is Trout without a freak calf injury, or a hurt hamete bone.

CAoldskoll
Trusted Member
1 month ago

Nice day at the stadium, what a horrid way to start the game, instant buzz kill. Sano batting 5th hurt, guy is so washed. We need Drury to hit. Continuous problem to hit with men on really hurt a winnable game today. We’ll see what happens in Boston but I’m concerned since we showed last week we can’t hit any of their starting pitchers while they blast HRs off almost all of ours.

Halo71
Trusted Member
1 month ago

Just saw the highlights. I don’t think Angel stadium has been that empty since the days of Von Hayes and Damion Easley.

bigviz
Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Halo71

Since the days of Luis Polonia’s Jheri curl roaming the outfield and the football press box in the upper level third base upper deck blocking the view of that one seat in the corner.

FungoAle
Super Member
1 month ago

I think it has been said by someone on here but I’d be happy with a .500 record deep in the month of July.

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  FungoAle

I would as will but I don’t see that happening.

FungoAle
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Roy Hobbs

Come on Roy Hobbs, they said that about the Knights too.

AngelsFanInHell
Trusted Member
1 month ago

It wasn’t a win, but I did have fun today at the game. I didn’t like being right that Soriano was going to be bad. Moore, Adell, Trout and Estevez were solid. I will probably be going to more games this year than the last five combined.

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BannedInLA
Super Member
1 month ago

A mid-week day game is Nirvana on so many levels.

Angels2020Champs
Legend
1 month ago

On the flip side of you in 322 today. We had fun!

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AngelsFanInHell
Trusted Member
1 month ago

I was in in 331. Such a great day for baseball.

Last edited 1 month ago by AngelsFanInHell
Angels2020Champs
Legend
1 month ago

A few foul balls landed your way!! We’ll be back 4/24, maybe 26th and 27th (CtPG rise up!!). Nothing beats a day/night at the Big A. We enjoy trying to find it on the 22 on our way in, getting a treat (sundae helmet, cotton candy, etc) and just having fun. JoJo (DJ) is right there and played 3 of our song requests!

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Pineapple12
Super Member
1 month ago

After that shaky (and extremely flukey) 1st inning, Soriano looked good.

Adell looked good. Rengifo had some awesome ABs. Bullpen looked good.

A lot of positives, and most importantly this is the best baseball Trout has played in years.

10 games in 10 straight days on the road — @ BOS, TB, CIN will be an indicator to evaluate how serious we will be this season. Anything over .500 deserves a moderate celebration.

Last edited 1 month ago by Pineapple12
BannedInLA
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

Adell looked mixed. Some terrible at bats and a dumb base running gaffe to go with a solid single and an Oppo Jack. He should play more, for sure.

Pineapple12
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

The SB gaffe was pretty funny lol. The natural abilities he has are simply too electric to keep benched.

Not that Jo *deserves* anything, but 186 games over 5 years isn’t necessarily fair to his development.

BannedInLA
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

I fall somewhere between your high ceiling optimism and his basement level detractors. The only way to find out is to see him get at a minimum of 400 AB’s over the course of this season. Who is “blocking” Hicks? Sano? GTFOH

AngelsFanInHell
Trusted Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

You and I will always disagree on Rengifo. He gives me great pain. Soriano was horrible. You and I must have watched a different game.

BannedInLA
Super Member
1 month ago

Let me guess, David Fletcher stan?

AngelsFanInHell
Trusted Member
1 month ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

I was a Fletcher fan because he played solid defense. Rengifo is obviously a better hitter, but if he can up his defense, you won’t hear negative comments from me again.

Pineapple12
Super Member
1 month ago

Sans the 1st inning, Soriano was good.

I see how Rengifo can frustrate you but stats don’t lie — he’s good !

FungoAle
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

Like a Erick Aybar knock-off, not quite as good

BannedInLA
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  FungoAle

And yet he’s a better baseball player than half our squad. Hating on Rengifo is so tired when the issue is on the franchise failing to draft-develop better players.

FungoAle
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

Back when the Halos picked him up, he was an Fangraphs sleeper selection along with fellow Angel, Fletcher. Looks like Luis outlasted him. Agree, I am hoping he ends up playing full time. Thinking the Wash-effect will raise his level of focus.

FungoAle
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

I liked the Soriano appearance after that inning, love that life on his pitches. I’m digging it.

2GA2Join
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Roy Hobbs
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  2GA2Join

The teams need to start sending game video to the commissioner’s office.

Mia
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Mia
1 month ago

We always find our way to .500, don’t we?

BannedInLA
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Mia

Tampa is consistently good. We are “this close” to being solid ourselves.

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

I agree that we have some good pieces, but we are incomplete. We need two good starting pitchers and some multi-inning relief in the bull pen. We need a run producing 1B, a real 2B, a run producing 3B, and a solid Right Fielder. It’s possible that some of those holes can be filled by players currently on the roster, but not all. I am not a fan of Sano or Hicks taking playing time away from Moniak, Adell, or Rengifo. I would prefer a Moniak/Adell platoon in right and Renjifo and Drury covering 2B and DH with our current roster. Hicks and Sano can play once a week.

Mia
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Mia
1 month ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

It’s amazing to think what a DH and a starter could have done for this team.

steelgolf
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Mia

Until the last month of the season, then they climb up 2 feet, and drop down 3 feet.

Mia
Legend
Mia
1 month ago
Reply to  steelgolf

Yep. We’ll be full of hope at the deadline and then be truly buttercupped.

Eric_in_Portland
Legend
1 month ago
Reply to  Mia

if we’re lucky

RexFregosi
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Mia

Hoping to be there again all time-wise. I think we were above it briefly in the Scioscia years

smithy610
Super Member
1 month ago

Being 6-6/.500 after 4 series with 2023 playoff contenders – I say it’s much more than what I expected from this team. I honestly expected 2-10 (swept by Baltimore and Rays, and one win each from the Miami and Sox series).

Oh, and Adell hit a HR today.

So….silver linings?

BannedInLA
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  smithy610

Definitely silver linings.

Fansince1971
Legend
1 month ago
Reply to  smithy610

I mean they are really 3-6 against good teams.

And 3-0 against a bad team that was playing very poorly.

smithy610
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

I mean they are really 3-6 against good teams.

So? I don’t see anything wrong with that. I mean, weren’t there basically zero expectations of this team doing anything good anyway?!

Did people suddenly have playoff aspirations????

And 3-0 against a bad team that was playing very poorly.

Again, so what though? They beat a team they were supposed to beat. Isn’t that a good thing?

If this team loses to teams better than they are, but they beat the teams worse than them, that’s really an 81-81 record right there, .500, or maybe 80-82, 79-83, which is where a lot of people expected them anyway (putting aside the, IMO, extreme predictions they will end up with <70 wins.)

BannedInLA
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  smithy610

Rational take. Thanks.

DowningDude
Legend
1 month ago
Reply to  smithy610

Imagine – if the Halos were undefeated all these same teams would all of a sudden be all bad teams. They’re only good because they beat us and only suck because we beat them. Logics is coo!

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  DowningDude

Not quite. They beat us because they are good. Their not good because they beat us. All three of those teams will finish the season 15-20 games better than us.

Fansince1971
Legend
1 month ago
Reply to  smithy610

I mean sure. But realistically they aren’t going to always sweep bad teams. And they will be swept by some good teams. And I really don’t think the RedSox and Rays are elite.

4-6 is is what I expect out of every 10 games (approximately).

What I have seen from the first 12 games does not alter my opinion that this is a 68 win team.

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

I agree. There are some players who are currently exceeding my expectations like Trout, Ward, O’Hoppe, Detmers, and Anderson. At the same time, there are some who are failing to meet expectations, in some cases by a lot. That’s the rub, we kind of need everyone meeting and exceeding for us to have the team we hope for. Just having everyone’s average performance on this team is not enough because we are deficient in talent. Also,the performances of the guys who are exceeding are not sustainable.

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  smithy610

Except it’s not 81-81 because there are not very many teams that are worse than us. Most are at least equal or better but generally as Banned said, it’s a rational take and I agree with your thinking. I just don’t think that 65-70 wins is extreme. There aren’t many Marlins. Right now, our starting pitching and hitting are not consistent enough to play .500 across 162 games. The bigger issue is that Perry and Arte don’t seem committed at all to even trying to win. Under the circumstance, I’m happy with the effort of the staff and players.

Eric_in_Portland
Legend
1 month ago
Reply to  smithy610

I’m looking at it in starting pitching terms.

Detmers and Anderson, 4-0
all others 2-6

smithy610
Super Member
1 month ago

That’s actually a really good way of putting it. And that 4-0 from Detmers and Anderson were really great, masterful pitching, not just “lucky” wins.

I expected Detmers to improve from last season. He clearly has ace potential, just needs to be more consistent.

Anderson has been a pleasant surprise. Hope he keeps this up.

The rest is just about what I expected from them.

All in all, it’s what we expected as fans – mediocre starting pitching staff.

BannedInLA
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  smithy610

Trevor Bauer is like:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=StKVS0eI85I&pp=ygUPYmxvbmRpZSBjYWxsIG1l

What a stylish broad BTW.

DowningDude
Legend
1 month ago

19 years later and Doug Eddings is still a jackass

steelgolf
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  DowningDude

Some things never change.

willtheangelswin
Member
1 month ago

When do we play the Marlins again?

BannedInLA
Super Member
1 month ago

Fuck it, UFC 300 is nearly here….

DowningDude
Legend
1 month ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

It’s been around for 300 years? WOW!

Angels2020Champs
Legend
1 month ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

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BannedInLA
Super Member
1 month ago

Dude. It’s going to be a beautiful symphony of violence over all 13 fights…

BannedInLA
Super Member
1 month ago

The Rays, Rayed all over us. Frustrating game.

Brent
Super Member
1 month ago

Good thing we only have 49 hours to think this one over.

Eric_in_Portland
Legend
1 month ago
Reply to  Brent

we’ll be at least a .500 club til then

DowningDude
Legend
1 month ago

We still have a shot at 6-and-14.

WS dreams survive!

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