LA Angels Wednesday News Crash: With the 11th overall pick…

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Angels News

The Draft Lottery happened Tuesday evening. Yes, Baseball has a draft lottery now, and the Angels are in it this time. All non playoff teams have a shot. So, how did the Angels do? They got 11th. Bruh.

Not that Arte will be around by the 2023 Draft, hopefully, as the Angels will be sold by opening day. Maybe.

All I want for Christmas…

Ohtani is still here and will pitch every 6th day. Not like in 2022 which was sometimes every 7th day.

Phil Nevin admits that Adell was rushed. What gave that away, his K rate or his bad defensive plays?

Around Baseball

Arson Judge to the Giants! Wait, what? Yeah it was not only a misspell, but not actually true, which meant hours of Arson Judge memes.

Will he be worth it though? Evidence points to Yankee home game balls being juiced. Conspiracy theorists are onto something!

Ohtani is the REAL MVP

Cody Bellinger is going to the Cubs. Just one year, 17.5M. Also Jameson Taillon for 4/68.

Josh Bell going to Cleveland, 2/33M. Guess they are buyers after all?

Mitch Haniger to SF. So wait are they not getting Judge?

Phillies just don’t stop, add T. Walker for 4/71M and Matt Strahm for 2/15M.

Manfred is mad at how slow the A’s stadium is going. Baltimore is fine though.

Good news everyone! MLB is the 15th fastest growing brand of 2022.

The next Japanese Star to come to America has officially been posted. 30 days to sign this Outfielder.

Anything I missed? Post below for upvotes!

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2GA2Join
Super Member
1 year ago

So now we’ll sign Correa next.

13 years $400MM. No problem, the next owner is good for it….

Mia
Legend
Mia
1 year ago
Reply to  2GA2Join

It’s not my money, and it’s not yours either, Arte. Doooo ittttt.

h27kim
Trusted Member
1 year ago
Reply to  Mia

It’s (mostly) not Arte’s money either….

Mia
Legend
Mia
1 year ago

11 years for Bogaerts. Wow

steelgolf
Legend
1 year ago
Reply to  Mia

Crazy wow! Maybe Tatis and his shenanigans has worn out his welcome?

Mia
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Mia
1 year ago
Reply to  steelgolf

Dad?

My father literally just texted me the same thing word for word lmao

steelgolf
Legend
1 year ago
Reply to  Mia

🤣🤣🤣

2GA2Join
Super Member
1 year ago
Reply to  Mia

Yowzers.

So does this setup a possible trade with us and the Padres?

FungoAle
Legend
1 year ago
Reply to  2GA2Join

I like Ha-Seong Kim. 2 more years at $7M AAV. Padres want to win now.

VictoriousVIC
Trusted Member
1 year ago
Reply to  FungoAle

Sign me up for this. Or Jake Cronenworth. That would be even better. But I doubt the Dads want to deal Jake. Kim could be a possibility

Cowboy26
Legend
1 year ago
Reply to  VictoriousVIC

The Trade simulator puts a high value on him though.

VictoriousVIC
Trusted Member
1 year ago
Reply to  Mia

And it seems like Preller outbid himself. Saw a tweet that the Red Sox offered him $200 million. I can’t believe Preller thought giving Xander an 11 year contract is a good idea. I don’t see how that contract will age well.

VictoriousVIC
Trusted Member
1 year ago
Reply to  MarineLayer

This I would love. I know it’s pure speculation from Alden, but I don’t think he’s too far off. Perry was a finalist for Wilson so there is clear evidence we still have money to spend. I’d offer Dansby 6 years $150 million and if he takes it great. If someone else offers him more then see ya. But signing Dansby would be a very welcome addition.

Mia
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Mia
1 year ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Wow. Got the team right, and spelled the players name right.

That’s a big win for Heyman.

2GA2Join
Super Member
1 year ago

Wow, just saw a report that we were one of the final bidders on Contreras?
If true, what on earth was Perry up to there?

Cowboy26
Legend
1 year ago
Reply to  2GA2Join

More than a Check in ? WOW

HalosFanForLife
Trusted Member
1 year ago

Can anyone tell me how Velazquez had a positive oWAR with a .236 OBP and .304SLG? It makes no sense to me. I’m sure 17/18 SB helps, but I really saw him as negative WAR everytime he was in the lineup.

Jeff Joiner
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Legend
1 year ago

He played an incredible shortstop.

WAR has an adjustment for position played. So a guy with the same line playing first base would be negative.

So between getting love for playing shortstop and playing it very well, Squid is positive. Think of it as defense + 5, offense -3, overall = 2.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  Jeff Joiner

No! Unpossible! Squid’s the worst player ever to wear shoes! Dad, I mean Arte, sucks!

Cowboy26
Legend
1 year ago

The Fielding Bible really likes him. He was 4th in the MLB in Defensive Runs Saved in less than 1000 innings so thats pretty damn good out of 22 qualifying shortstops.

But ironically it appears that the same Bible hates Chuches , since over the last 2 years Jose is dead last in all of Baseball producing -26 Defensive Runs scored.

So No Gracias on Iglesias . We should be happy we exorcised him after 2022.

HalosFanForLife
Trusted Member
1 year ago

Is it just me or would it be nice to know the potential buyers? C’mon, someone has to leak it.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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I think, when it narrows down, it probably will leak.

ChillRIL
Member
1 year ago

My money’s on Disney.

h27kim
Trusted Member
1 year ago

Bosox signed Yoshida, not Senga. Wrong Japanese player.

Angelz4ever
Super Member
1 year ago
Reply to  h27kim

That’s what i said (Looks around room slyly).

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend

Are Heymaning us? I see nothing about Senga out there.

DowningDude
Legend
1 year ago

Arte and Perry are playing JENGA, nothing in relation to Senga

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend

OK. I say either sign Jose Iglesias or ask the Marlins what it will take to get Wendle. Wendle’s an FA in two seasons and can play SS or not…. perfect for bringing along you prospects. He has added value for us this way, so I say give those fish what they want.

Or go the AAA rout and ask…

The WhtSox what they want for Jose Rodriquez, the Padres what they want for Eguy Rosario, the Royals what they want for Maikel Garcia, the Tigers want for Ryan Kreidler, what the Brewers will take for Brice Turang, what the Os will take for Joey Ortiz etc. Try n get a solid AAA rookie at SS who has basically been passed by shiny prospects.

Then just sign Trevor Williams and Jesus Aguilar, be done with it, and let the bitching about limp needles begin.

Jeff Joiner
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Legend
1 year ago

Nice list. One of the SS, Wil Meyers, and I’m good.

That’d give us actual depth all over the diamond.

Don’t look past the MLB level for reinforcements, though.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  Jeff Joiner

Yah, Myer’d be even better, Jesus would give us the money to sign Williams as swing man, that’s the only reason I picked him. I’m actually not as hung up on OF as everyone. Rengifo, Walsh, Fletcher and Urshela can all do time in LF if we NEED it. Trades can happen, but most of the MLB FAs are either too much or too crap.

RexFregosi
Super Member
1 year ago

if the Angels don’t sign a SS4$, just go with the Conquistadores there
(Velasquez, Soto)

Jeff Joiner
Editor
Legend
1 year ago
Reply to  RexFregosi

Squid should be a pinch runner and occasional late defensive replacement. No more.

FungoAle
Legend
1 year ago
Reply to  RexFregosi

I don’t think Perry can afford to roll with those guys as starters to begin season. 2022 all over again. He is going to bring someone in. I just hope it is a natural SS.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  FungoAle

I think he plans to roll with Fletch if he doesn’t get someone.

ihearhowie3.0
Super Member
1 year ago

The Padres being so aggressive with Turner and Judge makes me think they either a.) had some confidence they could move Tatis or b.) have some confidence Machado is leaning toward opting out next year.

Either way it’s surprising to see historic offers made when they already have 2 historic contracts on the payroll.

There is a universe though where Machado leaves, Soto leaves and they are a very mediocre big league team with no prospects left.

FungoAle
Legend
1 year ago
Reply to  ihearhowie3.0

Manny will likely opt out to reset his AAV but he likes it in San Diego

steelgolf
Legend
1 year ago

The Dodgers stating that they have no interest whatsoever in Correa is not good news to his agent.

ihearhowie3.0
Super Member
1 year ago
Reply to  steelgolf

Dodgers offseason certainly feels like they intend to sign Ohtani and/or Soto in the 23-24 offseasons.

Fansince1971
Legend
1 year ago
Reply to  ihearhowie3.0

Yes. They are likely going to reset and then go big.

red floyd
Legend
1 year ago
Reply to  ihearhowie3.0

I’m seeing the Dodgers fans expect Shohei vibe on some private boards.

GrandpaBaseball
Legend
1 year ago

So long as MLB owns Rawlings, we will never know what MLB will come up with and what teams are using what type of wound ball. No wonder Manfraud didn’t punish cheating teams in the sign stealing debacle, he loves taking gambles. While Selig had no backbone, Manfraud is just as delusional as Pete Rose.

GrandpaBaseball
Legend
1 year ago

No one asked me, but: Baseball players will soon be given 500-million-dollar contracts for 8 years, good grief…..Is anyone surprised at the allegation that the Yankees fixed it so Judge would have a chance at what we all thought was real. The real loser in this fiasco are the fans. Since the used car dealer ran things who really knows what is true in MLB anymore…..I truly find it hard to believe that Shohei will leave California in the future…..I bet Arte is going to be paying off lawyers and lawsuits for years to come…..PTP called and asked for the biggest shovel that Home Depot sells…..Arte cleared out his desk using a U-Haul van. Copies of old contract he signed not only weigh a lot but take up a lot of space and in California you can’t burn them…..Did anyone expect a better slot in the draft than 11th?…..The 3 contracts that pay over 40 million a year reside in NYC, they deserve them….. 😂 

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Oh mah girth! Perry passed in the rule 5 draft because he’s so stupid and Arte is so cheap and evil!

WallyChuckChili
Legend
1 year ago

Didn’t pass on the minor league faze

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend

So cheap.

2GA2Join
Super Member
1 year ago

Lugo? Lorenzen part 2?

Senator_John_Blutarsky
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Reply to  2GA2Join

Luigi.

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ihearhowie3.0
Super Member
1 year ago

The Jeremy Giambi of the Mario Bros. Plumbing duo

WallyChuckChili
Legend
1 year ago
Reply to  2GA2Join

Is he at least a lefty?

Fansince1971
Legend
1 year ago

I see no reason why Ohtani would sign an extension with the Angels and not test free agency. He could be looking at upwards of seven years and 500 million. If I were advising him, I would tell him to test free agency. His only risk is injury, and/or, a poor 2023. If he feels both are unlikely, why not test free agency particularly with the contracts we have seen recently.

2GA2Join
Super Member
1 year ago

Perry is sure teasing us with the “Santa hasn’t come yet” and the “I think there’s a possibility of <exceeding the luxury tax>” and “Shohei’s not going anywhere” bits….

Mia
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Mia
1 year ago
Reply to  2GA2Join

Maybe they’ll announce his extension soon. Imagine.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend
Reply to  Mia

Is it OK if I imagine a three year extension.

Mia
Legend
Mia
1 year ago

3yr/300 million take it or leave it

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend
Reply to  Mia

Yarrr!

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend
Reply to  2GA2Join

Get ready. Elvis Andrus. Tootie Tube will be stoked.

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Legend

We need an Elvis since our last one was traded. Without an Elvi, we are doomed.

Cowboy26
Legend
1 year ago

But dont we need to hire a Colonel to properly manage him so he doesn’t eat too many banana fired peanut butter sandwiches and then die while taking a crap on the John?

red floyd
Legend
1 year ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Is Hokie Joe available?

FungoAle
Legend
1 year ago
Reply to  2GA2Join

Go BIG or go HOME

MarineLayer
Super Member
1 year ago

I think Judge ‘s contract gives us a baseline of what Shohei will cost.

Mia
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Mia
1 year ago
Reply to  MarineLayer

10y/400 million is the starting point I would imagine.

Mikeal1st
Trusted Member
1 year ago
Reply to  Mia

Sounds worth it, and I usually hate mega contracts.

Cowboy26
Legend
1 year ago
Reply to  Mikeal1st

10 year $450 million to $475 million Dont forget all the parasitic leaches that are lying in wait to sign him.

FungoAle
Legend
1 year ago
Reply to  MarineLayer

$45M AAV to start

Jeff Joiner
Editor
Legend
1 year ago

Combining what we know and don’t know:

The Angels sale is close enough that Arte is likely only covering a month or so of payroll. And he got an extra influx in cash from the MLBAM sale.

Payroll for luxury tax purposes currently sits at a record $212 million, which leaves $21 million until the luxury tax threshold.

I think Cowboy26 is right in saying Arte won’t want to saddle the future owners with going over the tax threshold this year because it will impact their bottom line next year.

So, I think Perry might have another $10 million or so to spend. This would hit a nice sweet spot of Arte giving himself a shot of going out a winner, Arte not having to pay the increased payroll, but the increase not really affecting the bottom line of the sale or having any long lasting repercussions.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

So Correa then.

This is, after all, a must win season. We need to get Ohtani’s milk to come in so that we can pay him for past production the way we never complain about here.

Cowboy26
Legend
1 year ago

But then today there was this comment : https://twitter.com/JeffFletcherOCR/status/1600582645431250944

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend
Reply to  Cowboy26

Wow… no mandate…. things are possible… amazballs. Correa it is then.

FungoAle
Legend
1 year ago

Xander is the Angel sleeper

Cowboy26
Legend
1 year ago
Reply to  FungoAle

Does Xander know this ?

red floyd
Legend
1 year ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Somebody Bogaerted the letter PTP was going to send him. Probably Evil Arte.

Jeff Joiner
Editor
Legend
1 year ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Pretty sure we’ve heard this from 3 GM’s and Arte in some form or another.

Then again, it looks like at this point Arte is figuring he’s spending other people’s money.

ihearhowie3.0
Super Member
1 year ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

Yeah I feel the most simple explanation is that Arte is about to make billions and he won’t even be the one responsible for paying the majority of this year’s payroll. There has never been more incentive for him to go a little over the usual internal budget.