Angels Lose, Again. 3-2 This Time

Here is a little soundtrack music brought to you by the Astros pitching and the Angels offense.

It was Reid Detmers versus Framber Valdez. The Astros started off this game in typical fashion by scoring two runs in the first inning. The Angels started off this game in typical fashion by scoring zero runs in the first inning. The difference is that in the third and fourth innings the Astros gifted the Angels back those two runs with an assortment of wild pitches, errors, and passed balls. (See soundtrack)

We get to the bottom of the eighth tied at two all and Stefanic walked. Ohtani worked his count and eventually the Astros gave him the IBB to get at Ward of all people. Ward, for his part, was working a great walk until he was called out on strikes. Oh well. So now we go to the ninth inning tied at two.

Raisel Iglesias retired Jake Meyers on a fly out, Chas McCormick on a strikeout (Chas? Seriously?), and Martin Maldonado on a strikeout.

The mighty Luis Rengifo came up and hit the first pitch on the ground to Yuli Gurriel for out number one. Jo Adell then struck out swinging. Jonathan Villar popped out to the shortstop. It’s 2-2 after nine.

Uh Oh! Aaron Loup came in to replace Iglesias. Of course some rando (Korey Lee) is standing out there at second base so it’s not a clean inning. Mauricio Dubon hit a fly ball out which advanced Lee to third base. Jeremy Pena then singled to drive Lee in. It’s 3-2 Astros. Bregman grounded into a force out. Kyle Tucker was mercifully out on a grounder to Luis Rengifo.

Now Jared Walsh came up against right handed pitcher Ryan Pressly who basically gave him everything possible low and out of the strike zone. Walsh swung at a couple of those pitches nevertheless and managed to strike out. Max Stassi lined out softly to second. The Astros seemed to be handing a walk to Brandon Marsh, but he couldn’t help but swing at ball three way out of the zone. A couple more consecutive strikes and it was game over.

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benjiface
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2 months ago

Can we just stop and admire how the Manfred Comedy hour 10th inning rules have ruined baseball?

We appreciate your moment of silence

Brent
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2 months ago
Reply to  benjiface

It feels completely lopsided for the Angels. I’m sure the stats are not good when it comes to wins vs losses in extras since that was implemented.

Brent
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2 months ago
Reply to  Brent

Looking over the stats… the Angels are 9-15 in extra inning games since that rule was implemented.

MarineLayer
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2 months ago
Reply to  Brent

And their record in games it’s not?

Brent
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2 months ago
Reply to  MarineLayer

You can figure that one out on your own.

MarineLayer
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2 months ago
Reply to  Brent

I was an English major. No math skills.

MarineLayer
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2 months ago
Reply to  Brent

Good teams like the one we played last night are easily able to advance a runner from second, the Angels are not. The Manfred rule is an abomination but is unlikely to have affected the final outcome. I loathe Loup. Thanks Minasian.

Last edited 2 months ago by MarineLayer
JackFrost
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2 months ago
Reply to  MarineLayer

Well, I do agree with one point you made here; namely, that the extra innings rules favor, and if fact require teams to be able to play or execute fundamental baseball. By that I mean moving a runner over with productive outs etc, and especially getting him in from 3rd with less than two outs.

The Angels are horrible at both of those things. Last night was a perfect example as we could not even move the automatic baserunner from 2nd to 3rd. All Walsh had to do is make contact to medium OF or either side of the IF and it would have been done. But no.

Again, alot of this blame goes to Jeremy Reed. The Angels are clearly guessing just about all the time. Problem is, they are guessing wrong at the plate. It would be much better (especially when not in a hitter’s count) to shorten up their swings and look to just make contact back up the middle instead of trying to pull the ball in the air. Even as a non-professional I understand this, and yet Jeremy Reed somehow cannot convey this basic information to our troops?

Sorry, he needs to go..

Last edited 2 months ago by JackFrost
anewfoundthrice
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2 months ago

Bobby abreu for new hitting coach! And if I can have my wishlist totally filled, bring back scioscia as he might be the only one who remembers Ward played third base. Keep adell in right, have the stadium speakers and broadcast play the Benny hill theme song anytime it is hit near those two. Mickey k also known as Thor Jr man’s 1b. We put Walsh in the bullpen because he can’t be much worse than loup and tepera. A time out to make him think about what he’s done until he wants to hit baseballs again

Angelz4ever
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2 months ago

FIRE SOSH….ERR…..too late?

DowningDude
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2 months ago
Reply to  Angelz4ever

I have it on good authority that once we fire Jerry Reed we go from 3.0 runs per game to 20.0 runs per game. Guaranteed. It’s ENTIRELY on the hitting coach.

/s (end sarcasm)

MarineLayer
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2 months ago
Reply to  DowningDude

I blame the pitching coach for the bad hitting, inadvertently teaching them to strike out at a record pace, while failing to instruct the pitchers instead.

JackFrost
Super Member
2 months ago
Reply to  DowningDude

Ummm, no need to mock the position through exaggeration etc..

How bout going from 3.0 runs per game to 4.0 runs ! I would take that in a heartbeat. Did you know the Angels on the road are third to last in OPS only behind the Tigers and Reds? And we are second to last in road AVG. with an embarrassing mark of .214 !!! Only the Tigers are worse in all of MLB.

May I remind you this team has Trout and Ohtani. This is pathetic and unforgivable. Time for Reed to go.

DowningDude
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2 months ago
Reply to  JackFrost

agreed! fire him already … what’s taking you so long to get rid of him?

MarineLayer
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2 months ago
Reply to  JackFrost

I was trying to be funny.

jcstein
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2 months ago

🙁

DowningDude
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2 months ago

Should be on the clubhouse monitors 24/7. Rod Carew making contact all day all night.

Cowboy26
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2 months ago
Reply to  DowningDude

*except with the tying run on second during the 9th inning of Game 5 of the 1982 ALCS

Eric_in_Portland
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2 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

but he did hit it hard, just right at Yount, as I recall

MarineLayer
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2 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Ouch.

JakeTaylor
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2 months ago

Been a long while since I heard his voice but is that Al Conin doing the play-by-play?

Marcotor
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2 months ago
Reply to  JakeTaylor

No, that is the voice Conin WISHED he had. The Voice of The Angels, Dick Enberg. He did 40 or so games in 85. Radio only.

MarineLayer
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2 months ago
Reply to  Marcotor

I so miss Dick Enberg. He made so many unpalatable years bearable.

JakeTaylor
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2 months ago
Reply to  Marcotor

Ahh, my bad. I thought Al Conin did a great job doing the play-by-play. Then again I was just a young teenager back then and he was the first play-by-play guy I ever listened to on the radio so I had no one else to compare him to.

tanana40
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2 months ago

I ended up with Yakety Sax and the Enberg call playing at the same time. That did not equate so I turned off the Sax song and listened to Enberg over and over. Notice how Carew kinda bails out and just lobs the ball to left field. What a concept!

MarineLayer
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2 months ago
Reply to  tanana40

Ohtani too when he goes the other way.

DowningDude
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2 months ago

Jeff Fletcher
Nevin said Trout was not available. They said they’d check with him tomorrow to see about playing tomorrow.
8:48 PM · Jul 14, 2022

max
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max
2 months ago
Reply to  DowningDude

Every single fucking time. Available to PH, Day to Day, out for 2 weeks

Chap24
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2 months ago

Just baffles me that they didn’t want to destroy Adells confidence yet they’re letting Marsh obliterate his at the plate before sending him down. I get it his D is legit but he’s gotta get right. As for the other head case Walsh he needs to be sent down as well. McKinnon isn’t a sexy name at 1B but the dude makes solid contact most times at the plate. It’s all about building players up for next year now. Get them right already dammit and FIRE JEREMY REED!!! I gave him credit for Ward but even he’s looking mediocre again. Smdh.

Last edited 2 months ago by Chap24
Cowboy26
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2 months ago
Reply to  Chap24

Plus I got a hunch the coaching might be better at the Salt Lake. After watching Detmers last 2 starts we know the pitching coach down there is better.

MarineLayer
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2 months ago
Reply to  Chap24

I agree. But with Trout out for the year, errr, day to day, who mans the third OF position after Ward and Adell? The batboy?

WallyChuckChili
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2 months ago
Reply to  MarineLayer

Dillon Thomas

DowningDude
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2 months ago

This had me rolling from the gamethread

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MarineLayer
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2 months ago
Reply to  DowningDude

Grandpa is on it!

James
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2 months ago

The Angels don’t know how to win close games. Simple as that. 🤷‍♂️

Rallymanatee
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2 months ago

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DowningDude
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2 months ago

The karma for cheering altuve HBP struck swiftly. His replacement DuPont or whatever made an amazing catch in the 10th and made a key PRODUCTIVE OUT in the 10th.

Hope it was Dodger fanatics cheering his injury and not any of our awesome fans.

Cowboy26
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2 months ago
Reply to  DowningDude

Look, this team has a lot of issues but getting bad karma from cheering the Trash elf’s HBP is not one of them.

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DowningDude
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2 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

that DOES look like the gnome.

MarineLayer
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2 months ago
Reply to  DowningDude

What’s the worst that could happen, a 14 game losing streak?

Angel_in_the_Outhouse
Member
2 months ago

Shohei not pitching …. and it’s back to Sucksville.

GonFishin
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2 months ago

It’s always a different vibe when he’s on the mound.

GonFishin
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2 months ago

Total strikeouts from the hitters this series:

G1: 12Ks
G2: 17Ks
G3: 13Ks

Before that in the O’s series:
G1: 8Ks
G2: 9Ks
G3: 12Ks
G4: 10Ks

The strikeout problem has progressively gotten worse and doesn’t show signs of being fixed internally. Perry said in his last interview that he can still see a path to victory with Ohtani and Trout. Either bolstering the lineup or the coaching staff would be a good start.

Sell the team Arte.

Cowboy26
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2 months ago
Reply to  GonFishin

Actually they’ve gotten better if you compare the Angels K totals this series to the series in Houston 2 weeks ago.

G1 16 Ks
G2 12 Ks
G3 20 Ks

DowningDude
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2 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

😂😂😂😂😂

………

😥😥😥😥😥

………

😭😭😭😭😭

GonFishin
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2 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

My eyes were already hurting, I didn’t go back further to avoid blindness.

Cowboy26
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2 months ago
Reply to  GonFishin

Well then you better stop that.

FungoAle
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2 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Whew, that looks so damn pitiful

JackFrost
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2 months ago
Reply to  GonFishin

Yeah, and people like gitch don’t see a problem with Jeremy Reed. Others have defended him too.

I mean, what has this guy done to earn your (general for all those saying he is not a problem) support and loyalty???

Last edited 2 months ago by JackFrost
DowningDude
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2 months ago
Reply to  JackFrost

Let’s avoid direct confrontations mmmkay?

Cowboy26
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2 months ago
Reply to  JackFrost

Gitch or Jeremy Reed?

MarineLayer
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2 months ago
Reply to  JackFrost

He needs to be fired for the symbolism alone. Toronto fired Charlie Montoya for a winning record. Competence aside, sometimes you just have to shake things up.

HatcherIsMyHomeBoy
Member
2 months ago

Once the Stros scored the ghost runner it was over. These sorry ass fools are terrible at situational hitting. All of them. They score runs when gifted to them … and when they hit mistakes for dingers and knocks . That’s it. If a guy executes his pitch plan they don’t know how to generate hits or even productive outs.

DowningDude
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2 months ago

I thought Trout might PH so I still had some hope.

MarineLayer
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2 months ago
Reply to  DowningDude

You know he would’ve struck out, reinjured his whatever, and missed the rest of the year?

DowningDude
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2 months ago
Reply to  MarineLayer

True! 😀

LA_Seitz
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2 months ago

The Angels really have to be the worst team in baseball at advancing the runner from second in the first extra innings at bat. They just have absolutely no situational awareness whatsoever. It’s not even about being clutch, it’s just about knowing what you’re supposed to try to do at a given time. Apparently none of them have ever heard of the phrase “too close to take”.

MarineLayer
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2 months ago
Reply to  LA_Seitz

I would revise your first sentence to omit the part after, “The Angels really have to be the worst team in baseball,”

DowningDude
Legend
2 months ago

Kudos to Reid Detmers Ryan Tepera and Raisel Iglesias.

If I never see Walsh or Marsh batting for the halos ever again – I certainly won’t mind. They blow.

FungoAle
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2 months ago
Reply to  DowningDude

Put a 1st first baseman on the off-season shopping list. Angels won’t be a player in the off-season until they get consistency from an offensive position.

DowningDude
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2 months ago
Reply to  FungoAle

Put Walsh to the bullpen then DFA Erring Poop. 😂👌

MarineLayer
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2 months ago
Reply to  FungoAle

How did Walsh go from being an All Star to the shell of a player we’re seeing now?

El_Duderino
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2 months ago

I love you Jared Walsh but that was one of the worst situational AB’s I’ve ever seen. Your job there is to literally swing the bat and 90% of anything you put in play is a job well done. Somethings wrong with him and somethings wrong with Marsh.

Two of my more favorite players just suck and here we are left with Rengifo hitting cleanup and nothing to really complain about there what the heck man.

FungoAle
Super Member
2 months ago
Reply to  El_Duderino

Rengifo in the clean-up hole….says it all. We are headed to the 2023 draft lottery.

Cowboy26
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2 months ago
Reply to  FungoAle

With our luck we’ll finish with the worst record but get the worst seed.

DowningDude
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2 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

And then select McKay Christensen

Cowboy26
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2 months ago
Reply to  DowningDude

Doesn’t he return from his mission trip soon? You know, someday that pick is really going to pay off for us.

Last edited 2 months ago by Cowboy26
MarineLayer
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2 months ago
Reply to  FungoAle

Draft more relief pitchers, Minasian!

nishiogawakun
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2 months ago
Reply to  El_Duderino

This is what’s potentially most frustrating. Coaching and development are totally real things!

red floyd
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2 months ago

I’m afraid to ask, but how was Adell’s defense in right?

DowningDude
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2 months ago
Reply to  red floyd

One really good play going back and 3 odd catches that were not that hard – he made the plays but either overran or misjudged all three. He’s horrible out there and I seriously can’t breathe when the ball is hit in his direction.

Last edited 2 months ago by DowningDude
DowningDude
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2 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Mr Adell’ s Wild Ride. Love it!

MarineLayer
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2 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

This is awesome!

MarineLayer
Super Member
2 months ago
Reply to  red floyd

See Yakkety Sak video. Every routine catch is an adventure, arms and legs moving at cross purposes in every direction at once. But he did catch everything hit in his immediate area. I’d call it an unqualified success.

WallyChuckChili
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2 months ago

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DowningDude
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2 months ago

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JakeTaylor
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2 months ago
Reply to  DowningDude

This one is better.

DowningDude
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2 months ago
Reply to  JakeTaylor

just more accurate.

WallyChuckChili
Super Member
2 months ago
Reply to  DowningDude

We didn’t suck when
Ohtani pitched.

DowningDude
Legend
2 months ago

man, 24 hours and I already forgot! 😀

Fansince1971
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2 months ago

All you losses belong to us!

Angelz4ever
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2 months ago

IMHO, it’s time to send Marsh down (Ala H. Kendrick) to cut down on his strike outs. He was touted as a “Contact hitter” when he came up. No reason to focus on it while he’s on the 25/26. Adell can get his reps, Marsh isn’t helping at this point. Four Ks? D@mn

Last edited 2 months ago by Angelz4ever
Fansince1971
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2 months ago
Reply to  Angelz4ever

His D is too good for that imo. He can learn at the MLB level

JackFrost
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2 months ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

He might need a day or two off. All Star break is coming. I bet that will help him..

YOUknowulovetheIE
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2 months ago
Reply to  JackFrost

He’s had plenty of those already.

DowningDude
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2 months ago

I think Jack was being sarcastic. Well-played you funny dude. 😎👍

DowningDude
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2 months ago
Reply to  JackFrost

$20 bet?

JackFrost
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2 months ago
Reply to  DowningDude

On what ?

DowningDude
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2 months ago
Reply to  JackFrost

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JackFrost
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2 months ago
Reply to  DowningDude

Ah, okay. Good humor DD.

DowningDude
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2 months ago
Reply to  JackFrost

Thanks. Check is in the mail. 😀

LA_Seitz
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2 months ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

On the one hand, I don’t think the Angels currently have a lineup where they can afford to sacrifice offense for defense at all, and they’re doing it at 2 positions at least. On the other hand, this season is meaningless anyway, so who really cares where they play him at this point.

FungoAle
Super Member
2 months ago
Reply to  Angelz4ever

Yeah, he looks terrible. He needs full time ABs with the Bees. Honestly, there is a strong possibility forming that he is bust. He had contact issues in the minors. Not sure where “contact hitter” was derived but it has not been the case with the Halos organization.

DowningDude
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2 months ago
Reply to  Angelz4ever

Send the ENTIRE TEAM down … 30 k’s in 2 games. Id rather have the Trash Pandas instead of the Trash Angels.

JackFrost
Super Member
2 months ago
Reply to  DowningDude

Ummmm. And how bout firing Jeremy Reed already??

DowningDude
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2 months ago
Reply to  JackFrost

I agree – but it won’t help these losers at all. Look what the Maddon firing did. Really lit one underneath their backsides, eh?

benjiface
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2 months ago
Reply to  DowningDude

Or how about the hurrrrrr durrrrr narrative about the brawl with the Mariners lighting a fire under the team? We’ve won like five games since then, probably all Ohtani starts.

FungoAle
Super Member
2 months ago
Reply to  DowningDude

That would be cool to watch a Panda weekend series at the Big A

Cowboy26
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2 months ago
Reply to  Angelz4ever

Walsh needs to carpool with him to the great Salt Lake . They both have options left.

DowningDude
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2 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Hopefully they turn left toward Rachel and get swallowed up by Area 51

benjiface
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2 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

There is no Great Salt Lake at this point