Angels lose pitching duel in Miami

The Angels are losing a ton lately, again. Being terrible will do that. It is especially true at the plate, meaning that any starting pitcher could have a great time vs this offense. Which means that when an ace faces the Angels, doom is likely.

Noah tried his best to keep up though. 5 innings of 2 run ball is decent enough, right? Only 5 hits allowed too, and hey, he had 8 strikeouts and no walks! Thor was decent again! And hey, 4 innings of shutout baseball by the bullpen! Amazing!

But yes, it didn’t matter as the Angels had 2 hits through 8 innings. Seriously, it was pathetic. The only good thing worth showing was that Trout made a good catch.

Yay defense…

And like, yeah, that was certainly a good catch. Something that is in the highlights since there was nothing else to show for the Angels.

Oh and Stefanic had a pinch hit hit in the 9th, the 3rd hit of the game. In fact, Trout walked too, putting 2 on for Shohei Ohtani. Despite sucking all game the Angels had a chance to take the lead.

HE walked. Bases loaded, one out in the 9th, down two. The Miami bullpen was blowing the excellent 8 inning shutout start by their starter, was this hope?!

Taylor Ward hit a sac fly. NOT SHUT OUT!

NOT SHUT OUT!

And Walsh flew out to end the game. Ugh.

The Angels lose, again, stuck in 4th place in the AL West. All on Ohtani’s birthday. Pain Dayo…

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Jessica DeLine
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2 months ago

Hey all, we banned a few people recently. We get people are frustrated but we aren’t going to tolerate personal attacks, racism, homobhobia, wishes of violence, etc. Be kind to each other!

Brent
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2 months ago
Reply to  Jessica DeLine

Straight to jail.

James
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2 months ago
Reply to  Brent

Love the fans but kinda don’t like the Angels currently.

Brent
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2 months ago
Reply to  Brent

Also, are they IP banned, by chance?

Charles Sutton
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2 months ago
Reply to  Brent

One is. We may still be able to work things out with others. We are trying to be reasonable in an unreasonable situation. The community guidelines are pretty clear.

James
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2 months ago
Reply to  Charles Sutton

That one unnamed person was getting pretty nasty and was a bit tiresome to read his/her posts so nice job there. It was definitely deserved

aces666high
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2 months ago
Reply to  Jessica DeLine

Who will we look to now for stale insults about boyfriends and such….

Seriously though, well done.

MikeSalmon
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2 months ago
Reply to  aces666high

In celebration, I will go to my favorite bar stool and sit on it and rotate.

No, but seriously: THANKS!, Jessica and all – to quote Gilligan’s Island – “the rest.”

Now: can you pitch? Can you put the ball in play? SOS

Cowboy26
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2 months ago
Reply to  MikeSalmon

You know I would have put up with a lot more grieve from the antagonists if it had led to more offense and a better bullpen. But, alas, it was not meant to be.

Last edited 2 months ago by Cowboy26
Jessica DeLine
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2 months ago
Reply to  MikeSalmon

I can strike out, which is better than double play!

nishiogawakun
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2 months ago
Reply to  Jessica DeLine

Thanks, Jessica, et al. I’d love for the site to continue to grow so bans are of course the other direction. However, I just didn’t get why some folks were getting so frustrated they’d insult one another. Solidarity through suffering!

VladimirTrout27
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2 months ago
Reply to  Jessica DeLine

Thanks Jessica! Some people just want to stir it up. Appreciate what you and the other Admins do.

steelgolf
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2 months ago
Reply to  Jessica DeLine

You have been extremely patient in wielding the ban hammer, so I’m guessing things really got out of hand in a game thread.

SScott
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2 months ago
Reply to  Jessica DeLine

I apologize for my part. I responded in a less than helpful way to a few people. I Certainly don’t want to make your admin work more difficult.

Fregosi66
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2 months ago
Reply to  Jessica DeLine

Thank you Jessica! This is not life or death, it’s supposed to be fun.

OMAHALOFAN
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2 months ago
Reply to  Jessica DeLine

Bravo, folks just need to chill…

tanana40
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2 months ago
Reply to  Jessica DeLine

On the old site when Rev ran it, I remember a guideline that said something like, “If you have a complaint about the team, make it, and then move on.” In addition to obvious guidelines about personal attacks, etc. I like the idea that we should not use every single post to complain, etc. That gets old (and yes, I complain about managerial moves, the front office, etc. because fans do that but at some point…..).

Rahul Setty
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2 months ago

I’d like to thank the Angels for helping out my fantasy team and clinching $3 tix for the remaining home games. Let’s get that 3 million attendance number, heck yeah! 😆

MH252525
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2 months ago
Reply to  Rahul Setty

Angels will always have 3 million attendance. Arte sells tickets insanely cheap to his charities. Charities give away the tickets. People that get free tickets still buy food that’s marked up a billion %. Arte gets that money and nice tax write offs to send to politicians to try and get favorable deals.

Jessica DeLine
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2 months ago
Reply to  MH252525

Not on track for 3 million this year so he’s gonna have to work some magic to hit that number.

jcstein
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2 months ago

Serious question: why is everyone understanding when Trout shows up his pitcher for tipping pitches, yet everyone gets fired up when Bauer launches a FB over center field out of frustration? I know he’s our wunderkind, but that behavior is cancerous to a clubhouse.

Charles Sutton
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2 months ago
Reply to  jcstein

That probably could have been handled better. Let’s just hope these guys don’t start brawling among themselves like the old Papelbaum chokehold.

Sportsdominator23
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2 months ago
Reply to  jcstein

This year Trout has been more expressive with how bad the club has been. I don’t think it was out of malice or anything, more like you’ve got to be kidding me, what are we doing out there? Like when Maddon intentionally walked Seager with the bases loaded vs Texas earlier in the season. Just a you got to be kidding me look on his face. It’s reputation too, Trout is known to be a good guy, Bauer not so much. So that’s why people react differently towards both of those guys. People also might be feeling bad that Trout is stuck on a team not going to the Playoffs anytime soon, so they took that with a grain of salt.

FungoAle
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2 months ago

I think this is certainly the case.

jcstein
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2 months ago

If your business was struggling and your best performer started berating his coworkers in front of everyone at the company, would you be okay with it?

Charles Sutton
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2 months ago
Reply to  jcstein

Airing dirty laundry in front of customers and the opponents was not ideal.

Sportsdominator23
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2 months ago
Reply to  jcstein

You took what Trout did as berating someone? Like someone said earlier it could have been handled differently. He should have mentioned what he saw when he went to the dugout. Trout was frustrated and was showing his dugout what he saw. I think Lorenzen was the one always asking Trout if he noticed him tipping pitches. Being in Centerfield Trout has a bird’s eye view of what the Pitcher is doing. To answer your question I’m okay with that if it doesn’t happen all the time. That’s happened to me before besides the struggling part.

Angels2020Champs
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2 months ago
Reply to  jcstein

I wrote a decent piece on how trout can improve as a leader about two weeks ago. Maybe that’s what he should work on in the off-season because he’s always working on something. Baseball is a tweener sport between individualized sports like golf, tennis or swimming and true team sports like rugby, football, or hockey. It’s just like my opinion, man. But I agree, leadership is trout’s least developed skill. Tori Hunter was our last good clubhouse leader if you all want a reference.

Angelz4ever
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2 months ago
Reply to  jcstein

Bauer has bigger problems than that, just sayin’……

jcstein
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2 months ago
Reply to  Angelz4ever

What are you even replying to?

Eric_in_Portland
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2 months ago
Reply to  jcstein

Trout letting the bench know Peguero is tipping pitches would not possibly bean a spectator. Additionally, there is a difference between frustration and an anger problem.

Eric_in_Portland
Legend
2 months ago

it appears we’ve got another “let’s see what we’ve got to look forward to” season. Reading Jeff’s “what I’d do if I were Perry – mid-season” reminds me that Perry will never do what we want because a) he doesn’t have the backings/funds and b) the various trades we suggest neglect to take into consideration that the other GM is looking for his best deal and not simply going by “trade value”. So it’s off to the Rocket City box scores for me!

jcstein
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2 months ago

We absolutely need a good clubhouse guy to try to get us out of this ridiculous funk. I’ve never seen the team so sluggish and with absolutely no morale. Either trade / cut the players who are causing it, bring in some veterans who will change the clubhouse dynamic, or both.

VladimirTrout27
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2 months ago
Reply to  jcstein

I was thinking… what if they brought in Bumgarner? Dude is fiery. He has salary, but shouldn’t cost much to trade for. And AZ could eat some salary

jcstein
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2 months ago

If we could get MadBum I’d be stoked. Why don’t we hire Pence as a consultant? I feel like those two together on the team in different capacities could actually make a massive difference.

Cowboy26
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2 months ago
Reply to  jcstein

Mike Pence? I know he’s looking for a job but no thank you.

Plus we need a President of baseball not a Vice President.

Charles Sutton
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2 months ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

I thought about saying it but, you know, the no politics rule. Still, as Mr.Chao would say, “It’s funny because it’s true.”

FungoAle
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2 months ago

I like Madison but do you think this year there is hope to make the playoffs which would push to acquire an additional arm like Bumgarner? I just think there are way too many underperformers in the lineup to overcome. The time to make acquistions was 4-5 weeks ago. I also think Perry wants to be known as the GM that built the farm back up and unwilling to part with better prospects to net the Angels proven roster additions. Hence the Villar types and feeding off of the suspect AAA roster. It’s been his style thus far too.

Last edited 2 months ago by FungoAle
VladimirTrout27
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2 months ago
Reply to  FungoAle

That’s why I’m watching less games. Perry is relying on dumpster diving and inferior minor league guys. Worst OPS in majors for July. And they added Villar….This was evident since May when Ks went up and BA went down. Also evident during the losing streak. I read comments looking for leadership and a voice. I look at MadBum since he’s available. It’s last ditch sure, but limited options

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aces666high
Trusted Member
2 months ago

Really disappointed that the halos only struck out 11 times. Thankfully Stassis (3 K’s!) march to the Mendoza line is right on schedule and Trout continues his run to 200 K’s. He’s only on pace for 180 or so right now but I have confidence he’ll get there.

I’m at the point now where I want the stench coming off this team to meet diaper mountain proportions. Their coaches are incompetent, stupid and liars (we are tipping on purpose 😂), the players are either going thru the motions or just plain bad, upper management is in over their heads and ownership is firmly in the realm of jack assery.

Major changes are needed and the only way this group of morons will do more than the band aid approach is for this team to completely fall off a cliff. I’m talking a 95-100 loss debacle. Only then will these fantasy baseball like fools realize they were lucky to just be a few games under .500 for the past few seasons. Check that, they might realize it. Might

Didn’t know there was an early game. Don’t care that I missed it. I used to care. Even when we were bad I used to look forward to games and hate off days. Not anymore.

VladimirTrout27
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2 months ago
Reply to  aces666high

No base runners. Today the Mariners played 6 guys with a OBP above .329. Angels had 3. If you can get guys on, hit for power, and or move runners, you put pressure on opposing SP and then get to work on relievers. This team doesn’t scare anyone. Plus if you can’t score it puts so much pressure on the SP and BP to make 0 mistakes. Which then could lead to over-managing due to playing scared

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MH252525
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2 months ago
Reply to  aces666high

wait wait wait….. I’m with you on barely watching the games anymore, but they actually said something about tipping pitches on purpose? wowzers.

Cowboy26
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2 months ago
Reply to  MH252525

Musselman insinuated a false flag operation. That was pretty astonishing.

Brent
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2 months ago

Could’ve been worse. One of these teams is doing all they can to get back over .500 while the other already has their October vacation plans set with no booking insurance to boot.

Twebur
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2 months ago
Reply to  Brent

on the bright side.
https://youtu.be/Jwx09n6Yuv4

h27kim
Trusted Member
2 months ago

I’ll just say that this is more depressing than the August and September of 1995. 🙁

Fleckstein
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2 months ago
Reply to  h27kim

2022 is bad after the great start, but one of the worst collapses is history in 1995 was still way worse for me.

James
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2 months ago

Stassi can’t hit like the other 6 usually in the line up andTrout needs to strike out less. 3 hits and 2 errors while scoring 1 lousy run will usually get you a loss. Just another wasted pitching performance due to lack of any offense basically. Good job Angels. 🔥

MH252525
Trusted Member
2 months ago
Reply to  James

but we have Loup, Tepera and Bradley making combined how much more than a decent MI would have cost us?

Eric_in_Portland
Legend
2 months ago

Stefanic hitting 1.000 since his 1st game.

I’m joking. I’m reacting to those who gave up on him Sunday.

Cowboy26
Legend
2 months ago

Why wasn’t Thor 2.0 pinch hitting for Walsh against the lefty in the ninth? Isn’t that one of the primary reasons hes still on the roster?

SScott
Super Member
2 months ago

I’m not sure how many more of these I can stomach. It’s becoming downright embarrassing, especially when I work with quite a few Astros fans.

nishiogawakun
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2 months ago
Reply to  SScott

Sadly, one of the perks of not working with any baseball fans or living in a baseball town.

VladimirTrout27
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2 months ago
Reply to  SScott

I’ve stayed away. I check updates online but the lack of offensive help being added has made me seek less frustrating activities

FungoAle
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2 months ago

Wait, what? Only one run? Must be conserving energy for tonight’s cow hide banana boat ride off of South Beach.

Jeff Joiner
Editor
Super Member
2 months ago

Trying the same things, getting the same results.

Let the plumber play. Give him second and let him sink or swim.

We know what we have in Squid and Rengifo.

Fansince1971
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2 months ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

Its been deja vu for a while now. At least 5 years.

rosstrade
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2 months ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

I agree, Jeff, but The Plumber wasn’t in your analysis in the previous post of what changes the Angels could make to be more competitive.

You had Rengifo and Fletch covering 2nd in your hypothetical.

I’d like to see what Stefanic could do for the rest of the season.

I hope he gets a real shot at making a difference.

MH252525
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2 months ago
Reply to  rosstrade

Rengifo has far more upside than Stefanic. He’s still in the age range where he could take a good step forward and is a toolshed compared to Stefanic. Rengifo has hit some absolute bombs for a MI and I’d be giving him the playing time with everyone they have. Velasquez and Wade are the ones we know what we have.

Senator_John_Blutarsky
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2 months ago

At least it was competitive

Chap24
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2 months ago

#pathetic tmmrw we lose 11-10.

DowningDude
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2 months ago

Not bad.