LA Angels Wednesday News Crash: Reid Detmers No Hit Rays

Good morning Angels fans, did you sleep last night? Yeah, me neither, have some links to sober up!

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Reid Detmers no hit the Tampa Bay Rays! On 2 strikeouts! Yes, that is the fewest strikeouts in a no hitter in years! Also the youngest since 2006. And also one of only 2 no hitters while only walking 1 and scoring at least 12 runs. The last time? Angels in 2019.

All 27 outs!

The 12th No hitter in Angels history.

It wasn’t the only cool thing about the game, for it was the Angels debut of CHAD Wallach! Like any CHAD, he hit a home run and MASHED the ball HARD all game! He’s the starting catcher now that Stassi is out too.

CHAD

Oh yeah and Anthony Rendon hit a home run off a position player, while batting lefty! The first time he ever hit left handed in the majors! He is not left handed!

“I am not left handed.” -Rendon

There was a lot of highlights last night I didn’t even get to, so, just watch a condensed game.

Brief game recap

Oh yeah, before the game even started, Ohtani received his numerous awards from last year. Arte Moreno was booed.

So many the game was delayed

I mean of course the Angels did well, it was a Gubi Tuesday, the Angels pitch VERY well on Gubi Tuesdays.

Angel Stadium land plans are available online now. Which one do you like?

Number 1 or number 2?

Around Baseball

Oh yeah, other teams played. Robbie Grossman made history by not making an error. 401 games is like, over 2 and a half seasons.

Verlander ALMOST threw a no hitter as well, but he is bush league, so he didn’t. Erik Aybar sends his regards.

Baltimore finally visited St. Louis for the first time in 19 years. What the hell, schedule makers?!

MLB has settled a lawsuit with the MiLB players about minimum wage violations. I’m keeping my eyes on you, Manfred.

Trade deadline this year is on August 2nd at 3pm Pacific. Angels may be buyers this time!

Are home runs being suppressed? Fangraphs says yes.

Anything I missed? Post below for upvotes!

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losangel
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5 days ago

Deal alert. For anyone looking to see the Angels in Oakland this weekend the A’s just dropped this flash sale. Tickets as low as ~$8. I just got 5 plaza seats for the family on Friday for $90. Not behind the Angels dugout like someone else got, but affordable for a family.

https://www.mlb.com/athletics/tickets/specials/flash-sale?partnerId=zh-20220511-600707-OAK-1-A&qid&utm_id=zh-20220511-600707-OAK-1-A&bt_ee=jLkTKB1hab%2BpuPJbGgKssSt3p9RA1eMHtoXYpdDmRJju%2BFjbvTcfAfn%2B%2Ba3uak7z&bt_ts=1652310353894

Deal is good for 16 more hours. Let’s make it red!!

Last edited 5 days ago by losangel
GrandpaBaseball
Super Member
5 days ago

Do you like inter-league play? I enjoy playing the Dodgers and winning, the Padres and Giants are fun too. But always being an American League fan and enjoying the All-Star Game and World Series pitting the leagues against each other seems that a little goes along way. Why would MLB think that going away from the 123 years way of doing things should change? Next year Manfred is really going to screw thing up, trying to win your division will not be easy as you will see us play Houston twice. Once there and once here in a 3 game or 4 game series, 8 games tops. We will be playing almost half our games against the National League. WTF. How was attendance against Miami working? Playing the National League is boring, rather play AL teams like NYY, BOS, Tor, Cleve, W/S, TB, Sea. Oak, Tex, etc. I really do not like to use the word hate, but Rob Manfred is trying his hardest to change MLB, for the worst imho.

BruinsAngelsKings
Trusted Member
5 days ago

The worst games to go to are when the skanks and chowds are in town because of the skank and masshole fans. So, less games that their fans are at the Big A, the better IMHO.

GrandpaBaseball
Super Member
5 days ago

I will agree with you that those teams’ fans come out, but the atmosphere is electric too. The Big A fills up and I enjoy when we beat them here at home. Through the years I enjoy when Seattle and Oakland show up. I have never seen the Dodgers show up and maybe someday I will. But I have no interest in seeing the other league show up.

red floyd
Super Member
4 days ago

Define “electric” atmosphere. You mean when it sounds like f***ing Yankee Stadium West?

JackFrost
Super Member
4 days ago
Reply to  red floyd

He is right in that there is more energy in the stadium. Even though a lot of those people are bandwagon Yankees fans, the more full the stadium the louder it is.

This helps the players. Typically we perform well with big crowds and good competition as you probably know red.

Twebur
Super Member
5 days ago

Doyer fans are bad…..even the children.

GrandpaBaseball
Super Member
5 days ago
Reply to  Twebur

The last time we were at Dodgers Stadium it was considered a safe venue, but now 28 years later we would never take the Grandkids there. But even Dodgers fans wouldn’t stab someone at the Big A I don’t think.

JackFrost
Super Member
4 days ago
Reply to  Twebur

😂

LanaBanana
Super Member
5 days ago

I absolutely agree.

GrandpaBaseball
Super Member
5 days ago
Reply to  LanaBanana

Thank you, playing the Astros and winning is a rush because we need to beat them to get to the top, so what do we care if the Pirates show up? It’s bad enough that we have to play the Orioles.

JackFrost
Super Member
4 days ago

I very much look forward to the next time we play the Asstros here.

I want so bad to be there in person when we beat their asses!

Cowboy26
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ihearhowie3.0
Trusted Member
5 days ago

The stadium plan should prioritize the stadium enhancement or decision on a new park as paramount, ahead of all else. It’s the only thing fans care about and without that, all this other stuff is really a huge negative during the Trout/Ohtani era.

You’re going to immediately destroy the parking and traffic flow for new office and retail space? Have fun selling that load of garbage without some kind of carrot that we’re getting a new stadium.

GrandpaBaseball
Super Member
5 days ago
Reply to  ihearhowie3.0

Either way that is chosen the stadium will be in first phase one.

angelslogic
Super Member
5 days ago

I know it was only one game, but I want to reiterate that Chad Wallach is a keeper. He showed great poise throughout the game. On the defense side he demonstrated decent pitch framing, made a couple nice throws on runners who were attempting to steal, and overall called a great game (no hitter). Offensively, he hit the ball hard three times, which included a home run. What more could you ask for? He better not be sent back to AAA any time soon.

Cowboy26
Super Member
5 days ago
Reply to  Twebur

Good thing you didn’t because last nite was Wallach’s 4th career HR

Twebur
Super Member
5 days ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Figured after everything else that happened last night, that was true too.

halofansince1978
Trusted Member
5 days ago

Lineups…no Trout or Ward.

https://www.baseballpress.com/teams/laa

Eric_in_Portland
Super Member
5 days ago

don’t like that….

fishfarm
Trusted Member
5 days ago

Bummer. IIRC Trout didn’t play in Ohtani’s last start either.

Twebur
Super Member
5 days ago
Reply to  fishfarm

Too many Super Hero’s on the field at once doing Super Hero things might become unfair to our opponents. Joe and the organization are just being polite.

fishfarm
Trusted Member
5 days ago
Reply to  Twebur

Maybe he feels bad about that 8th inning yesterday and wants to give his old ballclub a chance to squeak one out.

Cowboy26
Super Member
5 days ago

Carve out the pitcher/hitter, the power hitting lefty and the new found switch hitter, this looks a lot like a AAAA lineup .

BruinsAngelsKings
Trusted Member
5 days ago

Already winning this series combined with the off-day tomorrow it could be that Maddon is using it as an extra day off to ensure everyone is rested as much as possible for the double-header at Oakland this Saturday.

JackFrost
Super Member
5 days ago

I think you hit the nail on the head. The Angels are getting ready for their longest stretch of consecutive games all year.

Ward gets a few days off and now Mike gets one. It could help us over this stretch…

LanaBanana
Super Member
5 days ago

Trout came out of the game before the end last night. I hope he is okay.

Fansince1971
Super Member
5 days ago
Reply to  LanaBanana

Just getting him 2 days of rest for the price of 1

Mikeal1st
Member
5 days ago

I vote new stadium, if that is even an option?
The stadium is really good, but I think it would draw so many and be so awesome to get one of the best stadiums in the country. And, although Dodger Stadium doesn’t even compare right now it would be nice to increase the stadium inequality gap in So Cal.

rez2405
Trusted Member
5 days ago
Reply to  Mikeal1st

I just want the big A moved back behind the outfield so it looms over the field again.

Why is that such a big ask I’ll never know.. probably because it cuts into their precious budget but the real fans know that gives a tremendous value.

Mikeal1st
Member
5 days ago
Reply to  rez2405

That would be nice also.

Twebur
Super Member
5 days ago
Reply to  rez2405

I’d say that’s number one on my list….loom and intimidate opposing teams.

ihearhowie3.0
Trusted Member
5 days ago
Reply to  rez2405

Totally agree. Based on these plans I think it would need to be at a new stadium. They want the freeway ADs I’m sure and moving it to the outfield of current site would be blocked by new development from freeway visibility

Cowboy26
Super Member
5 days ago
Reply to  Mikeal1st

Parking which is still awesome, will absolutely forever suck once they start the new site development

Mikeal1st
Member
5 days ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

I noticed that there didn’t appear to be any parking.

Twebur
Super Member
5 days ago
Reply to  Mikeal1st

We won’t need any…by the time this gets built we will probably time travel, all of us will have one of those Star Trek Transporters.

red floyd
Super Member
5 days ago
Reply to  Mikeal1st

Same here.

GrandpaBaseball
Super Member
5 days ago
Reply to  red floyd

Parking will be in different levels, utilizing the space better. If the stadium is to be new there will little change to existing parking. Whichever way is chosen to build, the whole project is done in sections to have the least impact on the Angels games.

red floyd
Super Member
5 days ago

Which is a small fraction of the existing parking.

steelgolf
Super Member
5 days ago
Reply to  red floyd

Parking structures. Multiple ones.

rez2405
Trusted Member
5 days ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Maintaining the Big A’s easy in and out will be a priority as the site is developed

Suuuuuuureeeee……

Cowboy26
Super Member
5 days ago
Reply to  rez2405

😂😂😂😂😂

Twebur
Super Member
5 days ago

Who hits into the 57 first? Trout or Ohtani?

ihearhowie3.0
Trusted Member
5 days ago
Reply to  Twebur

Odds of either being here to open a new stadium are not great based on these timelines.

Arte seems more interested in monetizing this all than doing the only thing fans care about.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Super Member
Reply to  ihearhowie3.0

Awwww look. Arte’s still rich and you still can’t live with it. This whole stadium thing will give you a machine to rage against for sooooo long. You must be secretly stoked.

He most likely has to do a bunch of that evil money making stuff in order to fund building that big old stadium that he’s avoiding building because it’s the only thing the poors will enjoy.

If only there were a way to keep the team in SoCal, renovate the old stadium, build a new stadium without much in the way of public funding, and do it all without anyone who has more money than us making any money…. then a joyful utopia would be had by all.

GrandpaBaseball
Super Member
5 days ago
Reply to  Twebur

If they broke ground on the new stadium next year, it will take 3 years to complete, similar to the Rams stadium. While construction goes forward the Big A stays. If Big A is remodeled time is based on how much they want to remodel.

halofansince1978
Trusted Member
5 days ago

Not sure if anybody else noticed but Detmers gave up the walk almost immediately after the “Perfect Game” icon came up in the score box at the top of the page in the 5th…JINX!!!

h27kim
Trusted Member
5 days ago

I sort of did–I didn’t realize that icon showed up (listening to radio and all), but I will confess to thinking at that moment, wow, Detmers is throwing a Perfecto just as the walk happened….

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Super Member
Reply to  h27kim

JIIIINNNNXXXXX! It was your fault! Turabull!

AnAngelsFan
Trusted Member
5 days ago

Not only did Detmers pitch a no-no, he did it as a rookie with only 2 strikeouts. Surprisingly, there are 24 (er, 25 now) rookies that have thrown a no hitter and 3 no hitters with 0 Ks.

Eric_in_Portland
Super Member
5 days ago

all morning long I wondered about Walsh’s error, since I hadn’t seen it. I knew there was a delay in the scoring decision so maybe, I thought, maybe it was a hit. But now, having seen it I feel much better. The ball’s hit to Walsh, he drops it, tries to pick it up, drops it again. He probably would have gotten the guy if he hadn’t dropped it a second time. That’s the real error. So congrats, Reid!

tanana40
Trusted Member
5 days ago

Yes, I thought it was an error from the beginning as did Mark Langston. He was in front of the ball and dropped it twice and like you say even with the first drop, he could have gotten the out without the second drop. Good scoring.

Cowboy26
Super Member
5 days ago
Reply to  tanana40

The ball cuffed Walsh and rolled up his sleeve even before he had an opportunity to drop it. I know I can be pretty harsh, but I would still consider that an error even in little league.

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tanana40
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5 days ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Agree.

MarineLayer
Trusted Member
5 days ago
Reply to  tanana40

The TV team called it a hit immediately, then backpedaled when we got the favorable ruling. I agree with the ruling.

admkir
Trusted Member
5 days ago

I am on my second pitcher of Kool-Aid

AnAngelsFan
Trusted Member
5 days ago

I wonder how Madden, with his penchant for the unwritten rules, feels about last night?

The Angels padding an 8-0 lead in the bottom of the 8th with 2x, almost 3x HRs off an eephus pitch position player probably didn’t sit well with him, especially Rendon hitting from the left side. He did seem annoyed in the interview, but at least he kept his mouth shut.

Personally, I think if a team is going to try to save their bullpen by sending in a non-pitcher then the opposing team should do exactly what the Angels did.That’s two great, fun games in a row.

fishfarm
Trusted Member
5 days ago
Reply to  AnAngelsFan

My Dad said it all felt wrong to him, but if you’re putting in a position guy to pitch then the unwritten rules are kind of already out the window, like you said.

AnAngelsFan
Trusted Member
5 days ago
Reply to  fishfarm

Rendon’s act is one of those you can argue both ways, too. On the one hand, it was mocking the other team to bat lefty and violates the unwritten rules. On the other hand, he was acknowledging the guy on the mound wasn’t a pitcher and was following the unwritten rules to even the scales by hitting from the wrong side, rather than trying his best.

Eric_in_Portland
Super Member
5 days ago
Reply to  AnAngelsFan

yes! Trout’s HR was more pouring it on than Rendon’s but what are they supposed to do? Strikeout on purpose?

Biggiswrth
Trusted Member
5 days ago

All I had was Ricky Bobby in my head! If you ain’t first your last! Can’t help it if the Angels are pissing excellence right now. LOL

ScoopleDoople
Trusted Member
5 days ago

Really, thats what I was thinking too, what were they supposed to do just stand there as he throws meatballs?

steelgolf
Super Member
5 days ago
Reply to  AnAngelsFan

I think Rendon was surprised that he hit the home run. Probably wasn’t what he was trying to do.

JackFrost
Super Member
5 days ago
Reply to  AnAngelsFan

I don’t know why Maddon would be upset. He is not the one who told the Rays to bring in a position player to pitch. They could have used others but probably did not want to hurt their chances for today’s game. That was their choice. What were the Angels supposed to do? Stop trying? Strikeout intentionally ?

As for Rendon, one could argue that his batting left-handed was not an attempt to show up the Rays but instead a way to “level the playing field” by hitting left-handed against a non-pitcher. It could be viewed as admirable.

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toad2065
Member
5 days ago
Reply to  AnAngelsFan

I couldn’t help but notice that Rendon’s stance from the left side looked much better than we see daily. He actually appeared ready to hit instead of relaxing in his rocking chair. Maybe he learned something?

Mikeal1st
Member
5 days ago
Reply to  toad2065

I noticed that also. He looked like a real player while batting left.

tanana40
Trusted Member
5 days ago
Reply to  AnAngelsFan

In Trout’s previous at-bat (before the homer in the 8th), he was brushed back by a pitch that almost hit his hand while the Angels were leading 8-0. He was angry and yelled at the pitcher (see the game thread for this discussion). Thus, his next at-bat against the outfielder he hit a homer. You can see that as a statement but I think he just hit a homer against a pitcher throwing 52 MPH. There is no unwritten rule that you should not try to hit a homer.

Then again, I read that the TB pitcher has been cool about all of this on social media. Rendon batting left handed can be seen as fun or showing up the other team. But I think it was all in good fun and baseball can be fun.

All teams know that you can lose 12-0 one day and win the next day. That is baseball.

AnAngelsFan
Trusted Member
5 days ago
Reply to  tanana40

I’d forgotten about that. Trout’s been beaned a lot by pitchers trying to go inside and I think he’s had enough of it. I wonder if we’ll see some Angels throw at guys. As much as I hate that, intentional bean balls might be the only way to convince opposing pitchers not to throw dangerous pitches inside to Trout.

BruinsAngelsKings
Trusted Member
5 days ago
Reply to  AnAngelsFan

The next time Trout is hit on an inside pitch, that teams first batter the next inning needs to get plunked in the leg or the back, nothing up by the head. But a message definitely needs to be sent.

Charles Sutton
Editor
Super Member
5 days ago

Ahh! At last a good reason to keep Elvis around. We’ll actually be kind of relieved if the umpire tosses him.

VictoriousVIC
Trusted Member
5 days ago
Reply to  AnAngelsFan

The unwritten rules in general are dumb. Correct me if I’m wrong but isn’t run differential now a potential tie breaker after head-to-head matchups to determine seeding since the tie breaking game is out now? Because if so then unwritten rules be damned. Score as many runs as you can every single game.

AnAngelsFan
Trusted Member
5 days ago
Reply to  VictoriousVIC

I agree the unwritten rules are dumb, but I understand Maddon is a fan of them.

tanana40
Trusted Member
5 days ago

At work today, I had to write out the 12 Angels no-hitters from memory. Belinsky and Wright were before my time but they are both well known no-hitters in Angels’ history. Then, of course, you have Ryan’s four Angel no-hitters and from there it is fairly easy. The one that took me the longest to recall was the Langston-Witt no-hitter in 1990 (though I think that I watched that one on ESPN).

It’s been awhile since the Angels distracted me at work this much. We are less than 5 hours from today’s opening pitch! When are line ups going to be posted?

ScoopleDoople
Trusted Member
5 days ago
Reply to  tanana40

At work today, I had to write out the 12 Angels no-hitters from memory.

Wow where do you work? Sign me up!  😀  Oh “had to” maybe means like I had to watch the condensed game over and over and over again…

red floyd
Super Member
5 days ago
Reply to  ScoopleDoople

No, he had to write it on the chalkboard, 100 times.
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red floyd
Super Member
5 days ago
Reply to  red floyd

Dammit that’s 12. Stupid Bart.

fishfarm
Trusted Member
5 days ago

Totally neutral observation that is neither sunshine pumping or pooping in the punch bowl.

Angels in the #1 spot in the hitting balls rankings

https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=all&stats=bat&lg=all&qual=0&type=8&season=2022&month=0&season1=2022&ind=0&team=0,ts&rost=&age=&filter=&players=0

Twebur
Super Member
5 days ago
Reply to  fishfarm

Still think this offense has another level (11), room for improvement, room for hotness and consistency, heavier Grit and Grind factor.

fishfarm
Trusted Member
5 days ago
Reply to  Twebur

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ScoopleDoople
Trusted Member
5 days ago
Reply to  fishfarm

Good one!  😂 

Mikeal1st
Member
5 days ago
Reply to  Twebur

If Rendon and Ohtani get hot… !!!!

rez2405
Trusted Member
5 days ago
Reply to  Twebur

See the thing is …. the probability that everyone is hot at the same time is very low and if they do get hot at the same time.. it will last only a couple games or so.

steelgolf
Super Member
5 days ago
Reply to  rez2405

And you hope those games are during the World Series.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Super Member
Reply to  fishfarm

There’s no such thing as numbers flavored Kool-Aid my friend. As it stands now, the Angels are very good. That could be different down the line, but for now it’s a fact.

Eric_in_Portland
Super Member
5 days ago

A short note on being excited…

A. We’re already 1/5th of the way through the season

B. If this is as good as it gets then we better be loving this moment

smithy610
Member
5 days ago

Yes, it’s still early in the season, but what gives me hope, aside from the obvious healthy Trout and Rendon was that the starting pitching has been a lot better this season. It’s only mid-May and we’ve already seen great starting pitching:

Patrick Sandoval’s first 3 games
Shohei’s 5-inning perfect game against the Trashcans
Shohei’s 11K game against Boston w/ 81% strikes thrown
Reid Detmers’s no-hitter last night
Michael Lorenzen’s almost complete game almost shutout.

When the Angels started getting hot, what was preventing me from being all in is the confidence in the starting pitching. Truly elite teams have top-tier starting pitching, have a couple of aces, and the rest of their rotation above average. I wasn’t sure the Angels have those after Ohtani, and sometimes Sandoval.

I’m still cautiosly optimistic but feeling more confident now in this team! Last night is something Reid can build on, and hopefully get to continue doing.

red floyd
Super Member
5 days ago
Reply to  smithy610

No Thor on your list?

smithy610
Member
5 days ago
Reply to  red floyd

Admittedly, I haven’t watched games he’s started. I was mostly going off on dominant starting pitching, but Thor has been great. IMO, he just hasn’t had that dominant one game yet.

toad2065
Member
5 days ago
Reply to  smithy610

Only yesterday, some of you guys were claiming Detmers didn’t belong in the rotation?

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Super Member
Reply to  toad2065

Intenexperts.

smithy610
Member
5 days ago
Reply to  toad2065

I wasn’t one of them. So does that mean I can celebrate his no-hitter guilt-free?

nishiogawakun
Trusted Member
5 days ago

Wow, what a treat this series has been! Seriously, can’t help but just enjoy it!

GrandpaBaseball
Super Member
5 days ago

This team right now is a like Santa Claus. It makes a big difference if you Believe or not.
Santa Claus is really just a feeling of the good in giving and for the young, the receiving.

That is the same with this season’s Angels team, believing. In both Santa and the Halos there is the good and the bad (losing, bad pitching, bad hitting and fielding). But through it all, you and I this season feel it, the excitement within ourselves that we just know that the player’s feel it too, and that is we will win.

Hey, we’ve ourselves almost been no hit a couple of times, we don’t win every night either. But a big reason for believing isn’t that GPB thinks we will win, it’s because the Player’s think we should win. Want proof? Bottom of the ninth, 2 outs, 2 strikes and we win with a walk off. In past season’s you would have to agree there was not a flicker in anyone’s eyes that we’d have a chance. How about comeback wins. How about a Bullpen that does not torch us? I saw the potential in the starting staff, and the lineup, and now you see it too.

If we get lucky and Christmas arrives early and make the Playoffs, do you think you will believe then? I know Ido and I will.

Tolbs
Member
5 days ago

It would be rad if this greatest hits package from Dipoto, Eppler, and Minasian (D.E.M. G-Emz) coalesced into a chart-topping championship club. I’ve bitched about front-office moves over the past 10 years, but all three of those guys contributed to what we are now seeing.

Extra kudos to Minasian, though, for getting rid of the already-paid, self-satisfied, no-energy deadweight. He rightly understood that this team needed a younger, hungrier, more energetic attitude to get to the next level. It’s early still but things definitely feel different this year…

Fansince1971
Super Member
5 days ago
Reply to  Tolbs

Agree. Upton would not fit in with this team’s chemistry.

GrandpaBaseball
Super Member
5 days ago

(O’Jays Love Train  🎧  🎸  🎷 ) que the music please,

People all over the world – Everybody
Join the ride,
Start of the Halos Win Train,
Join the ride,
Start of the Win Train, Fun Train,

Next stop we make will be Oakland,
Tell all our fans in Washington and Oregon too,
Don’t you know that it is time to get on board?
And let this Train keep on riding, rolling on through,

People all over these United States jump on,
The Win Train, come on, Jump on the Win Train – You need,
The Win Train – take it, come on,
People all over the Baseball seen,
Jump on the Win Train – Oh ride this Train,
Jump on the Halos Win Train, Win Train,

All you fans over in Florida,
Tell all the fans in Georgia and Texas too,
Please don’t miss this Train at the station,
’cause if you do I feel sorry, sorry for you,

People all over the Midwest and New York,
Jump on the Win Train,
Jump on the Angels Win Train,
Angels Win Train, come on the fun Train,

People who are our fans, don’t need no tickets,
Jump on board, Jump on the Win Train,
Angels Fun Train, don’t be late,
For the Angels Win Train, Fun Train.

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