LA Angels Thursday News Crash: Coach Of The Year

Mike Scioscia won the Rod Dedeaux Coach of the Year award. Does anyone here think Mike Scioscia is the best gift the Angels ever got?

Devan Fink of Fangraphs explored the benefit to the Angels of having Shohei Ohtani pitch and hit in the same game. Should we invent the new metric FAR, or Fun Above Replacement? Where to begin?

Happy Kwanzaa everybody! Happy New Year as well.

Kyle Seager just announced his retirement. Said Seager, “Now I’m effin’ ready.”

Here is the net worth of each primary owner of an MLB team. These appear to be arranged in alphabetical order of the team nicknames.

Byung-ho Park signed with the KT Wiz of the KBO. He’s getting on in years and kind of sucked lately so I don’t think we will be seeing him back in MLB.

Photo credit: Rex Fregosi

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2002heaven
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15 days ago

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Baseball managers only matter in the WS between two evenly matched teams.
Not a damm thing between two losing teams and even less between a badly overmatched team vs a playoff team!
No MLB manager is worth more than $2M a year. Even 75 yr old billionaires should know that by now……….
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Last edited 15 days ago by 2002heaven
Simba
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16 days ago

Best gift Angels ever received? It was Nolan Ryan. Then Vladi. Trout. Now Shohei, without a doubt.

red floyd
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16 days ago

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Designerguy
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Mia
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Mia
16 days ago
Reply to  Designerguy

I thought we all agreed that pants were staying in the pre-2020 timeline.

Designerguy
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16 days ago
Reply to  Mia

My lawyer advised me not to sign this document, so here we are.

Mia
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Mia
15 days ago
Reply to  Designerguy

We are all just floating heads in a zoom call at this point, pants are unnecessary 😂

halofansince1978
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16 days ago

Six AL West crowns and a World Series Championship.

Hell yes Scioscia is the best thing that has ever happened.

Especially after Blue gave him the shaft…Fuck the Dodgers.

GrandpaBaseball
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17 days ago

FAR has only one player to be #1, Shohei Ohtani. He hits, he pitches, he’s nice, he’s handsome, he has a sense of humor, faster than a speeding bullet, leap tall buildings in Orange County in a single bound (In LA and Tokyo the buildings are too tall), more powerful than a Locomotive (Electric power only) so make another award so TV execs can pat themselves on their backs for a new way to make more money. We need more awards!

GrandpaBaseball
Super Member
17 days ago

What difference does it make how much each owner is worth? Does that mean the team owners should lose money?…..Is Mike Scioscia the best manager the team has ever has? YEP, No doubt about it. Sosh had his weakness’ but even when the men that built his teams rosters knew he would win almost no matter who he was given. Mike Trout’s best seasons were with Sosh. Sosh just had issues in the playoff’s as if he should take the blame load. The big boys, the player’s, forgot how to play at the end of the season.

steelgolf
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17 days ago

Sosh gets the blame for crayoning in Hambone on the playoff starting line up. An inexcusable move. The guy hadn’t played in months, no rehab games in the minors, and he starts him. Hambone looked lost in the field and at the plate, yet he kept him in there. That and the reported Vernone Wells debacle where Sosh and Arte told Carlton to get Wells on the team or it would be his job. Those are just 2 of the Sosh blames. Otherwise he is a nice guy and a good, experienced baseball mind.

GrandpaBaseball
Super Member
17 days ago
Reply to  steelgolf

By the time 2014 rolled along the FO changed and pressure was to play Hambone as directed. Sosh took the sword. The game changed a lot around Sosh’s final years I’ll agree, but it was more of a roster challenge than an Old School/New School type of thing. Sosh will be in the HoF as a manager someday.

AnAngelsFan
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17 days ago
Reply to  steelgolf

Scioscia is, at worst, said to have “endorsed” the Vernon Wells deal. And while it was a boneheaded deal from a cost-benefit standpoint, from the perspective of someone (like the manager) who isn’t supposed to worry about the team salary, Vernon Wells would have appeared to be an above-average hitter coming off an all-star season that would improve the team’s outfield.

If Arte Moreno asked Scioscia’s opinion on Vernon Wells, which he almost certainly did, it was absolutely reasonable for Scioscia to indicate that Vernon Wells was a good player who would fill a position of need and would likely contribute more to the team than Napoli.

Again, the deal that was actually struck was terrible, but that’s on Moreno and to a lesser extent, Reagins.

steelgolf
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17 days ago
Reply to  AnAngelsFan

And yet, nobody but Scioscia, and Arte thought that was a good trade for The Angels at the time. Most people in baseball thought that the Wells contract was immovable, and then boom, bye, bye Rivera and Napoli, hello infield pop flies and Napoli crushing The Angels every chance he could.

AnAngelsFan
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16 days ago
Reply to  steelgolf

But that wasn’t because people expected Vernon Wells to be bad, it was because the Angels assumed all of his salary and traded 2 players for him, a clear case of overpaying. In other words, it was the price that Reagins/Moreno paid for Wells, not Scioscia’s endorsement of Wells as a player that was the problem with that deal.

Cowboy26
Super Member
16 days ago
Reply to  AnAngelsFan

Well I certainly did. Wells’ Home/road splits away from skydive were bad, REALLY bad. In his 2010 breakout season that compelled Arte to trade for him at his OPS split was .991 vs. .708. Furthermore his worst stadium careerwise by far was the Big A. So statistically he was damn near predestined to be bad. yet our sackless GM and egomaniac Owner couldn’t comprehend the reality we were condemned to suffer through.

Last edited 16 days ago by Cowboy26
steelgolf
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16 days ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

^ This^

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