LA Angels Thursday News Crash- Rule 5 Day

Hi everybody! It’s Rule 5 day. Here is the date time and format of the draft. This article explains the Rule 5 draft. The Angels are still in contention for James McCann.

 Awards Links

Al Michaels won the Ford C. Frick Award.  Dick Kaegel, long time writer covering the Cardinals and Royals, won the J.G. Taylor Spink Award for meritorious contributions to baseball writing. 

Non-Awards Links

Eleven full season teams did not get invited to be affiliated with a Major League ball club, including the Burlington Bees.  Wow!  Thom Brennaman got an announcer job in the Roberto Clemente League a five team winter league in Puerto Rico.  The Mariners hired Chris Flexen to a two year $4.75 Million dollar contract.  He apparently sucked as a Met but pitched well with the Doosan Bears.  The Giants just signed a bunch of pitchers I never heard of to minor league deals.  Meanwhile, the Mets signed Trevor “Not Bauer” Hildenberger for their bullpen and Jared Robinson got a minor league deal.  Unfortunately, we have missed out on catcher Chadwick Tromp.  Just think of all the Tromper Stompers we could have sold at the team store. 

Brian O’Nora pleaded not guilty to charges in his sex sting case. 

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2002heaven
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3 years ago

I think just maybe Arturo is making for that one desperate push to get into the post season ( especially in lieu of the Doyers having won it all, or risk having to move to Siberia. ). 2014 all over again…….don’t count on Bauer coming here however. His big anti pitching angle still stands! We’ll probably overpay for one at the summer trading deadline instead and let him walk at the end of the season ( expect Reid Detmers to be traded. ) Wundir if Gitcho agreez with mee, or thinks I’m typying with my noze again? 😂 

Last edited 3 years ago by 2002heaven
Guest
3 years ago

I think the proof is in the pudding re: working for Arte:

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2020/12/phillies-close-to-hiring-dave-dombrowski.html

Eric_in_Portland
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3 years ago
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so the Nashville thing wasn’t set in stone?

Guest
3 years ago

Depends on who’s asking.

Fansince1971
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3 years ago

Come on….really?! It’s pretty clear, Dumbo wanted an Organization where he was in charge of baseball ops. That is not the case in Anaheim.

FungoAle
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3 years ago
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We dodged a bullet. If it was due to Arte’s reputation, I thank you Mr. Moreno. How is Carole doing?

Guest
3 years ago
Reply to  FungoAle

Scouting pitchers (we all multitask in the LAA FO), thanks.

eyespy
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3 years ago
Reply to  FungoAle

Suck up

Jeff Joiner
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3 years ago

A signing of McCann would almost certainly mean a trade for a good pitcher. Marsh/Musgrove or Adell/Plescac type deal. Unless Arte is truly blowing up the budget OR Minasian is truly looking 2022, which he might be considering he’s only added one year pieces at this time.

The Iglesias twins have added about $12 million in payroll. McCann would add another $10ish per reports. That leaves about $10 million, max, for 2 starters and bullpen depth and, preferably outfield depth.

Guest
3 years ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

Likely McCann has the offers and is mulling it over. NYM will outbid LAA but he may have other considerations. I’m on the Casali bandwagon; it would be similar to the Jose Iglesias trade: a solid, balanced player at a good price. Need to remain focused on pitching, quality and depth. For LAA, the McCann decision is holding up the subsequent moves, budgetwise.

Jeff Joiner
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3 years ago
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Great minds, ha ha. I’d take Casali and use the rest of the money on pitching.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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It’s not like Minasian can’t talk to Caseli’s agent at the same time. In fact, he probably should, you can gauge Caseli’s value against what McCann is asking for.

Guest
3 years ago

They could and should be in touch already, agreed. Seems like they prefer McCann, otherwise why not sign Casali now?

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Why do you think Caseli wants to sign right now? He’s probably got some good options that may open up in the non-Realmuto/McCann markets. I mean think about it, most GMs are going to him before Yadi Molina. I doubt he’s just jumping at the first solid offers he gets and he may even wait until after McCann signs then try to get a 2 year deal at 1/2 the money, etc. It’s not as though we’ve figured out his value but his agent hasn’t.

FungoAle
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3 years ago

Agree with all that. I too would nit expect to see him come off the board before the top three catchers sign.

Nick_LA96
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3 years ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

I don’t mean any disrespect, I see a lot of people mention outfield depth but didn’t we sign schebler for that?

Guest
3 years ago
Reply to  Nick_LA96

I think so, if he’s healthy (PM would have done his due diligence) at the least there will be a little competition in ST. A no risk minor league deal. In RF, more of that and not Schwarber, even if Maddon likes him.

Jeff Joiner
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3 years ago
Reply to  Nick_LA96

I’d he our fourth outfielder or starting right fielder? I’d prefer the former and for Adell to get some development time.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  Jeff Joiner

There are some solid non-tenders that will make fine 4th OF to mix with Schebler/Ward/Walsh. Probably a defensive guy like ex-number one prospect in baseball Delino DeShields…. or just bring Goody back.

But given that we have 3-4 guys not named Adell who can play the third OF spot my guess is that the new OF will be a last move.

FungoAle
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3 years ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

Wilson Contreras is available for the taking. Best stick of all. My guess is, Maddon is not a fan and we will not pursue.

FungoAle
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3 years ago

McCann makes me a bit hesitant if it required a 4-yr $40M commitment as it is being reported wrt the Mets offer.

Turk's Teeth
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3 years ago
Reply to  FungoAle

That’s way too much commitment when guys like Casali are still available.

FungoAle
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3 years ago
Reply to  Turk's Teeth

I think if Casali had regular at bats, his offense could be on par with McCann. I know he may not be popular on CTPG due to his age, but Molina on a 2-yr deal would not piss me off. He’s fierce.

Turk's Teeth
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3 years ago
Reply to  FungoAle

I just like Casali as a solid balance of bat and glove. His framing has improved, and he always has a good eye at the plate. Just needs to control the running game better.

Jeff Joiner
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3 years ago
Reply to  FungoAle

The difference between Casali and McCann will likely be $8-$10 million per year. The difference in play won’t be much.

I’d rather take Casali and another piece or two.

FungoAle
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3 years ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

Casali can take some reps at 1B as well.

JackFrost
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3 years ago
Reply to  FungoAle

Agree. I’d pass on McCann; just not feeling it.

HalosFanForLife
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3 years ago

Love the Rivera pick up.

GrandpaBaseball
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3 years ago

Today starts out with High Heat’s Chris Mad Dog Russo expounding on New York and the Mets diatribe. “F” the Mets!

Jim Atkins
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3 years ago

In general, I really like MLB radio on SiriusXM, but I can’t listen to Russo. Hate opinionated yellers like Jim Rome and Skip Bayless. Life is too short to waste any of it on Bayless.

Jeff Joiner
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3 years ago
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Bayless is the absolute worst. I don’t think even he believes the sewage he spews.

Rome was ok back in the day. Haven’t listened to him in years. Did meet him a while back and he was incredibly nice.

Eric_in_Portland
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3 years ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

I’d also nominate Colin Cowherd. He used to be based in Portland. Up close, when you look in his eyes you do NOT see the look of intelligence.

Jim Atkins
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3 years ago

I had forgotten Colin Cowherd. I had to take a long course of medication and endless therapy sessions. Thanks for reminding me.  😁 

FungoAle
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3 years ago

Cowherd refuses to discuss baseball. Hard Pass.

JackFrost
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3 years ago

Don’t like Cowherd. Guy thinks he’s a sociologist when his job is to talk sports.

FungoAle
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3 years ago
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I remember Rome when we first started out on XTRA 690 (the mighty 690), lived in south OC. He was pretty fresh and entertaining back then then but as he got more publicity, the harder it was to listen to him. XTRA 690 was pretty good back then. For local sports (live in San Diego), big fan of John Kentera, 97.3FM, The Coach. While he is a diehard Padre fan, loves talking baseball and has good beat writers join the show. Easy voice to listen to for me.

JackFrost
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3 years ago
Reply to  FungoAle

Yep, I rembember those days. I particularly liked Lee “Hacksaw” Hamilton.

He was entertaining, had a unique delivery and was never boring. He is also still the most knowledgeable person (all sports combined, including Nascar, hockey, horse racing etc) I have ever heard on sports.

Jeff Joiner
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3 years ago
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Hacksaw was awesome. I’d sometimes get 690 when I drove tractors outside Bakersfield.

2002heaven
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3 years ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

The High Speed Sports Wire……”That’s right knucklehead”
Lol statement to those he disagreed with! 😆 
Sports talk radio in the 1990’s rocked!!

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Cowboy26
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3 years ago
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Chargers Play by Play as well.

Everyone into the pattern!!

FungoAle
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3 years ago
Reply to  JackFrost

Best 15-min of sports was his intro spiel rattling off story lines. really enjoyed him as well. Broadcasting from the 100,000 watt flamethrower from Baja. to

JackFrost
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3 years ago
Reply to  FungoAle

Totally. And I loved the way he delivered the police blotter stuff. His tone was so dramatic and serious.

2002heaven
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3 years ago
Reply to  FungoAle

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Big Nasty Joe McDonnell…….died in March, 2015

Cowboy26
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3 years ago
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McDonnell Douglas was pretty entertaining for awhile too

GrandpaBaseball
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3 years ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

I never, not 30 years ago, not 20 or even year ago liked Jim Rome, he’s not funny at all and I can stand his delivery, makes for a crappy Quarterback just ask Jim Everett.

eyespy
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3 years ago
Reply to  Jim Atkins

I would just keep running into those guys a yelling, and their emulators Can’t listen to sports radio ant more.

GrandpaBaseball
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3 years ago

Matt Vasgersian said today that the Angels need to sign Bauer as he believes that would put them (Angels) over the top and put the Angels at least into the playoffs. Harold and Costas Jr. agreed.

Mia
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Mia
3 years ago

Imagine getting paid to make obvious observations like that.

JackFrost
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3 years ago
Reply to  Mia

Ha. Good one Mia. And very true.

GrandpaBaseball
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3 years ago

Soriano = Rivera? I do no know, but the Pirates seem to think Soriano is even better. Did we outsmart ourselves?

ryanfea
Super Member
3 years ago

Pirates take Angels prospect Jose Soriano #1 in rule five draft

ryanfea
Super Member
3 years ago
Reply to  ryanfea

Angels take Astros pitching prospect Jose Rivera

ryanfea
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3 years ago
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Turk's Teeth
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3 years ago
Reply to  ryanfea

He’s a nice pick-up. Hardest thrower on the board. Needs to clean up his slider, but his FB and change are good tools.

Would have been a solid Rule 5 draft had Soriano not been selected with the first pick.

Turk's Teeth
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3 years ago
Reply to  ryanfea

It’s very surprising that the Pirates were willing to harbor Soriano on their active roster given he’s still recovering from TJ.

Jessica reminds me that I gave the front office a pass on not protecting Soriano for this reason, thinking no one would pick up a prospect who got TJ in 2020 and has never pitched above low-A.

That said, with 6 open spots on the 40-man, and Soriano being probably the third-best pitching prospect in the organization in terms of stuff (he was touching 100mph in 2019 and projects as a mid-rotation starter in 2+ years if it all comes together), Jose Soriano is not the type of prospect that the Angels can afford to just let go for free.

Here’s hoping the Pirates return him by summer.

Last edited 3 years ago by Turk's Teeth
ryanfea
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3 years ago
Reply to  Turk's Teeth

Pirates gotta be hoping they can stash him away on the IL and a rehab assignment most of the season right?

Turk's Teeth
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3 years ago
Reply to  ryanfea

I think some creative manipulation of the IL is in store, yeah.

AnAngelsFan
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3 years ago
Reply to  Turk's Teeth

According to this: http://m.mlb.com/glossary/transactions/rule-5-draft#:~:text=A%20Rule%205%20Draft%20pick,restrictions%20in%20the%20next%20campaign.

They only need him to be off the IL for 90 days. Even if they keep him on the IL all year long the only penalty is they have to put him on the active roster in 2022 instead of 2021.

hockey_duckie
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3 years ago
Reply to  Turk's Teeth

So you’re saying there’s a possibility of Soriano becoming like a similar scenario version of Clevinger?

h27kim
Trusted Member
3 years ago
Reply to  hockey_duckie

Without a Vinnie Pestano in return, apparently. If that’s what MLB rules allow, this is a terrible mistake by the new FO team. 🙁

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Ben Charington is obviously a stupid head. There is no way Soriano is any good, he’s from the Angels farm system so it is scientifically impossible for him to be good.

eyespy
Super Member
3 years ago

Until he faces us. Are we on Pittsburgh’s schedule in 2022?

Jim Atkins
Super Member
3 years ago

Just saw on The Athletic, Eno Sarris is predicting Halos sign Trevor Bauer to a one-year, $36 million contract.

Fansince1971
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3 years ago
Reply to  Jim Atkins

That seems highly unlikely to me unless budgetary constraints are n/a.

GrandpaBaseball
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3 years ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

Artie is not going to do that, a one year deal at Trouty money is not in the cards is my guess.

WallyChuckChili
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3 years ago
Reply to  Jim Atkins

36m and we lose a Pick? Pass

steelgolf
Super Member
3 years ago

Here is an article I stumbled upon regarding Victor Rojas
https://www.yahoo.com/news/voice-angels-sells-dodgers-championship-140045739.html

GrandpaBaseball
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3 years ago
Reply to  steelgolf

I am liking this read. Victor is just a good guy and is working close with his children in something successful and that is special and smart.

eyespy
Super Member
3 years ago
Reply to  steelgolf

No Skanks or Sux gear, there is that

Jeff Joiner
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3 years ago
Reply to  eyespy

A Maris and Mantle tribute is coming out soon.

HalosFanForLife
Trusted Member
3 years ago

I was a huge Clemente fan as a kid. Had no idea he was a Rule 5 Selection and that it’s been around that long.

GrandpaBaseball
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3 years ago

Seriously, the Dodgers for years put out that Roberto would play at all with any discomfort trying to justify such a bonehead decision. I thought about having him in RF for years as my Dad and I went to see the Pirates more than any other team. I saw Stargell hit not one but two balls out of Dodger Stadium. Once was 1968 and the other was in 1973. The one in ’73 never touched the RF Pavilion roof.

Designerguy
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3 years ago

I believe Stargell is the only one to hit a ball out of Chavez Latrine during a game. I saw Hank Aaron hit one out during batting practice, although it bounced off the roof in left field.

FungoAle
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3 years ago
Reply to  Designerguy

The only one to do it without steroids. McGwire hit one that bounced off the pavilion roof in 1999. Stargell’s shot cleared the roof and part of the parking lot. Stud.

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gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Stargell was like a folk hero… just a big and strong dude with personality to boot. Just get him a blue ox and let the stories begin.

eyespy
Super Member
3 years ago
Reply to  Designerguy

I thought Dave Kingman did it.

Designerguy
Super Member
3 years ago
Reply to  eyespy

Let’s check in with Tommy Lasorda and listen to what he has to say about Dave Kingman:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIwrYH6Urbs

eyespy
Super Member
3 years ago
Reply to  Designerguy

Before I click on your link, I know it needs a NSFW tag. Fucking (the last for 2020) Tommy.

Last edited 3 years ago by eyespy
Designerguy
Super Member
3 years ago
Reply to  eyespy

I listened to that game on the radio. The first two homers were called by Vin Scully. The last was called by Jerry Doggett (the ultimate Doyer homer), and when it when out, he was so depressed you’d swear that someone just shot Doggett’s dog.

eyespy
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3 years ago
Reply to  Designerguy

Sweet

GrandpaBaseball
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3 years ago

Thom Brennaman is deserving of a second chance imho, as by now his views on things have changed as well as those views for those he was working with.

GrandpaBaseball
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3 years ago

Good Morning to all and a Big Congratulations to Al Michaels for his well deserved entrance to the Baseball Hall of Fame. I first recall listening to Al Michaels calling U.C.L.A basketball and replacing another legend in Dick Enberg in I believe 1969 or 1970 and he never missed a beat and superb job for a few years before moving on being replaced by Fred Hessler. Here we are now 50 years later and Al is still going strong calling Sunday Night Football and every three years the Super Bowl!

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FungoAle
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3 years ago

I was pulling for Dave “Soup” Campbell but happy it was not Buck.

Last edited 3 years ago by FungoAle
Cowboy26
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3 years ago

Al Michaels is truly deserving and in watching the MLB network tribute it was great to hear how important baseball has been to his career. Unfortunately it was really rough for me when MLB network showed Al Michael’s greatest highlights and I had to Watch his calls on Game 5 over and over again.

eyespy
Super Member
3 years ago

Started he career over here doing AAA games for the PCL Islanders

Cowboy26
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3 years ago
Reply to  eyespy

Does that make him an Angels alumni?

red floyd
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3 years ago

I guess Al believed in miracles! Yes!