Angels get 90th loss in Bawston

Angels starting pitching has been the only good thing this month. It is not just me saying it, but the broadcast and ESPN. Look at it!

Maybe I overreacted to the Maddux firing…

Which makes it really embarrassing when G-Rod goes out there and gets blasted. He went 4 innings giving up 5 runs on 6 hits striking out 3 and walking 4. That is the opposite of a good start!

What are you doin?!

Not that the offense helped, per usual. Striking out left and right, being unclutch and overall bad. I mean they did score 2 late. Too late to matter though.

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I am tired of losing. G-Rod did not have it and he got shelled.

Solo Home run allowed in the 2nd

Oh and a 3 run home run allowed as well, 4-0 Sux

A single through INF in the 3rd, 5-0 Sux

Here, have a Paris giving catch to prevent the game from being worse in the 5th.

It is something

Oh wow, Angels do not get shut out as BALL hits a solo home run in the 6th!

Not shut out!

Angels scored a 2nd run in the 8th on a groundout.

5-2 SUX

Oh and here is this throw and tag that somehow got a Sux runner stretching a bloop single into a double in the 8th.

Neto barely got him

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2 more in Bawston and then off to DC. Literally need to go .500 the rest of the way to avoid 100 losses.

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Eric_in_Portland
Legend
4 hours ago

so if my math skills are working, we were today eliminated from the postseason. We cannot win the West because it is now mathematically impossible to catch Houston. And we cannot get the last wild card spot because we can’t catch Cleveland (or whoever might pass the Guardians). I mean, we all knew long ago that the season was over but now it’s official.

HalosFanForLife
Super Member
3 hours ago

I thought it would be 3 weeks ago. The West was crazy this year.

DowningDude
Legend
53 minutes ago

Yes, there were announcements on social media that the Angels were the first team to be mathematically eliminated. Winning!

Turk's Teeth
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Legend
4 hours ago

https://twitter.com/RhettBollinger/status/2097044859458637968

Maybe it’s just a superficial body type comp, but anyone get a Molina vibe (if Bengie were a lefty) on this tater?

Note that catching prospects are typically a couple years behind other positional prospects. Moises is only 22, and Bengie didn’t put up as many plate appearances as Ballesteros has this year until his age 25 season.

YOUknowulovetheIE
Super Member
4 hours ago
Reply to  Turk's Teeth

Yup. And the the kid can play 1st which helps him out even more.

FungoAle
Legend
3 hours ago

Can he play 1st? Sure, one of those positions where teams can hide the non-athletic guys. But at 5’8″, that would limit the target size for throws across the diamond and ability to stretch. I would not do it but it’s the Angels.

Last edited 3 hours ago by FungoAle
YOUknowulovetheIE
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12 minutes ago
Reply to  FungoAle

He looked good the other day, but that’s all I’ve seen of him at 1st.

Turk's Teeth
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4 hours ago
Reply to  Turk's Teeth

Not saying these are direct performance comps, but Dalton Rushing, Adley Rutschman, Drake Baldwin? All made their MLB debuts at age 24.

Rushing entered this season as the #30 prospect in the game, and like Ballesteros is only catching part of the time. His age 24 season? .204/.258/.324

Ballesteros’ current slash at age 22? .216/.278/.342

Just worth keeping in mind when assessing the Cubs exchange, and when one might be tempted to be impatient with the progress. Moises is ahead of the curve, and has plenty of time to ripen relative to his peers.

FungoAle
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4 hours ago
Reply to  Turk's Teeth

I want to see the bat come around more on a consistent level. He should be catching everyday, thrown him out there and let him get all the reps. I am not sure Ballesteros can overcome the defensive challenges for the catching job. Last year at Triple-A, Ballesteros was credited with throwing out just 14 of the 106 attempted base stealers against him (13.2 percent). Like you said, there is time.

Personally, my eyes are on the Cozart / Flores tandem.

Turk's Teeth
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3 hours ago
Reply to  FungoAle

He might not have the defensive chops to be an everyday catcher, but scouts have been mixed on that assessment for some time. Much will depend on his lower half conditioning, and how the body evolves over the next 1-2 years. Despite the CS%, it’s still above-average arm strength – it’s transfers and throwing accuracy that are more the issue.

The hit tool is really advanced though, and power tends to follow with barrel control and batted ball data that looks like his, all throughout AA and AAA.

Last edited 3 hours ago by Turk's Teeth
FungoAle
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3 hours ago
Reply to  Turk's Teeth

Yeah, I recognize throwing out runners has a lot of things that need to come together, pop-time, footwork and arm strength. Nothing he cannot work on and improve with right instruction. I’d send him to the minors next year and let him have consistent reps.

I hope to start seeing results of the often spoken about hitting skills this year

HalosFanForLife
Super Member
4 hours ago
Reply to  Turk's Teeth

Let’s hope it’s not my comp – if Danny “Burgers” Vogelbach was a carcher.

steelgolf
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4 hours ago

15 strike outs? Good gawd!

CAoldskoll
Trusted Member
5 hours ago

Trout’s power is still there but HR total is down for his standards because he just can’t square up the ball that much anymore. Wondering if we are looking at a guy hitting 230-with 15hr-who can’t field, for the next few yrs. If he gets increasingly worse will new ownership just buyout/defer the remaining contract before it’s up like Rendon.

Eric_in_Portland
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5 hours ago
Reply to  CAoldskoll

at least Mike wants to play, unlike you know who and that other guy, the drug addict.

Marcotor
Trusted Member
3 hours ago

Ah, the Laker defense. “He sucks, but sucks less than those other guys”.

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
3 hours ago
Reply to  Marcotor

He doesn’t suck. He may not be an MVP but he currently has the 3rd highest OPS for CFs in all of baseball and is 1st in the AL. One of the two guys in front of him is only 10 points higher and the other is going to be the NL MVP. He’s also 11/11 stealing bases and is a very good base runner.

If he was a DH, he would be 7th in MLB and 5th in AL 4 points out of 4th. he is still a very valuable player.

GonFishin
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5 hours ago
Reply to  CAoldskoll

Why? We have no top CF prospects being blocked and have no contracts on the books in 2 years except Trout. Buying him out is just a cheap stake move.

GonFishin
Trusted Member
5 hours ago
Reply to  GonFishin

No more deferrals either unless it’s on a FA. That makes absolutely no sense. Who knows how long Arte spread Rendon’s contract out.

Marcotor
Trusted Member
3 hours ago
Reply to  GonFishin

While there are no details, I would expect anyone smart would have funded an annuity that paid out over XX years as not to saddle future years with a revenue drain. All MLB deferrals are this way, it’s in the Basic Agreement. No team will be writing checks off the current account for a player in 5-20 years.

YOUknowulovetheIE
Super Member
4 hours ago
Reply to  GonFishin

Hayden Alvarez will be here sooner rather than later.

GonFishin
Trusted Member
4 hours ago

Yeah…in 3 years maybe. He’s 19 playing A ball as of today.

YOUknowulovetheIE
Super Member
9 minutes ago
Reply to  GonFishin

It might be sooner, who knows.

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
3 hours ago
Reply to  CAoldskoll

As long as he continues to have a wRC+ of 130 or better, he still has good value as a hitter, even if he’s the DH. Even 120 or better is is at least 20% better than average. He is currently the most valuable hitter on the team and still an excellent baserunner. His defense is not good though.

HalosFanForLife
Super Member
40 minutes ago
Reply to  CAoldskoll

He’s still got a great sprint speed and that’s often the first thing to go. I think he might settle in about this range honestly. If he gets some protection – he’ll maybe get a boost from here. Of course, he could slide too, but physically he’s still got some tools. Truthfully, I think they figured out how to pitch him.

FungoAle
Legend
5 hours ago

9 is the magic number, W-L combo with KC and Halos for the 2027 MLB draft

Eric_in_Portland
Legend
5 hours ago

pretty funny to have Neto challenge that last pitch.

So….. Paris didn’t look so hot today, at the plate or in the field. But Trout got a hit! It’s sad that I’m now hoping he can finish over .240. Detmers tomorrow. I still can’t believe Candelaria got shelled in Game 7 (speaking of lefties in Fenway)

Turk's Teeth
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Legend
5 hours ago

Fwiw, the AL league batting average this season is .241. So you’re just hoping that Trout will be average when it comes to average.

Makes sense.

Eric_in_Portland
Legend
5 hours ago
Reply to  Turk's Teeth

that’s right. I’ve noticed that. Last 25 games, 1 HR. Over 162 games that’d be a season of 6 or maybe 7 HRs.

GonFishin
Trusted Member
5 hours ago

Hitching coaches are not exactly doing their best to save their jobs. I understand some of these guys are not ready or not mlb regulars, but the strikeout rates are unacceptable and not sustainable for success.

DowningDude
Legend
5 hours ago

100 losses is a guarantee. Woot woot!

Eric_in_Portland
Legend
5 hours ago
Reply to  DowningDude

need to play .500 ball to avoid losing 100, so yeah.

DowningDude
Legend
5 hours ago

and 2 losses coming vs the Red Sox. We actually have to go 9W-7L in the last 16.

angelslogic
Legend
5 hours ago

10 more to go. We can do it!!!

DowningDude
Legend
5 hours ago
Reply to  angelslogic

I’m printing up my “100” T-Shirts to wear to Seattle. Jerry will hand out Turd Trophies to the entire team.

Fansince1971
Legend
5 hours ago
Reply to  DowningDude

How about this:

“Arte’s Golden Sombrero
100 Losses”

DowningDude
Legend
5 hours ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

I like it! 😀

VictoriousVIC
Trusted Member
13 minutes ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

Would be a fitting end to the Arte Moreno tenure. Sets the franchise record in loses in his last season as owner!

FungoAle
Legend
5 hours ago
Reply to  angelslogic

Not that it has not stopped the Angels from losing but only 2-games against teams with winning records remain. Need to Paris, Lowe, Heinman, and Moore in the line-up every game to help make it happen.

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