LA Angels Wednesday News Crash: Flap your Wings if you Believe

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Angels News

The Angels won 3 in a row for the first time since that sweep vs the Red Sox in June. The Shufflebot needs to be dusted…

It is the trade season, so everyone is anxious and makes mistakes. Especially ESPN. Hey, what would that trade take anyway?

Oh yeah, and the Angels meet up is this Saturday at 6:30 PM in section 305. I will send you your tickets.

Around Baseball

The Trade Deadline makes for some funny scenarios. Like being traded in a double header to the other team. He pitched that game 2.

And be careful about speculation. Just because players are hugging does not mean a trade happened. People just like hugs. At least in North America.

Remember, it can always be worse, you could be an A’s fan. At least this one is able to vent his frustrations on live TV.

Dick Mountain has been DFA-ed. Someone sign him, he NEEDS to break the record for most teams played for!

TV is desperate for anything. So much so that it will make a TV series about Ippei’s Gambling Scandal STARS? STARS.

Who is overshown on Sunday Night Baseball? The MFY of course.

I bet all 8 of the Angels appearances had Ohtani

Anything I missed? Post below for Upvotes!

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bobblanton
Trusted Member
1 day ago

No Abel for us

Twebur
Legend
1 day ago

The Guardians are “trying to move” both Steven Kwan and Shane Bieber, per source. Bieber made his fourth rehab start on Tuesday, striking out seven with no walks in four innings. He’s returning from April 2024 Tommy John surgery and has a $16M player option ($4M buyout) for 2026.

https://x.com/Feinsand/status/1950604562672271676

Marcotor
Trusted Member
1 day ago

Ya’all crack me up with your East Coast envy.

ESPN/Disney loves only one thing: MONEY. If the Angels v. A’s/Rangers/M’s/Astros could draw a 6 share in the ratings they would be at the top instead of Yankees/Red Sox. Who ever said the mix was to be “fair”?

Jeff Joiner
Editor
Legend
1 day ago
Reply to  Marcotor

ESPN went for the short money on Sunday Night Baseball. Yes, the YankSux bring immediate eyeballs but they failed to grow the sport otherwise.

Guys like Prime Trout rarely saw the screen. Young phenoms like Elly De La Cruz have never been on ESPN.

They gave fans 3 teams to watch then wondered why they couldn’t get good ratings for playoff series that didn’t involve those three teams.

Phil
Trusted Member
1 day ago

Good game yesterday. Good series, so far. I’d thought we would get swept by Texas.

Today:
Eovaldi has faced the Angels 14 times, going 6-3, ERA 3.20
For the season, he’s 8-3, with a ludicrous 1.50 ERA. Holy cow!!
In early July, he beat the Angels, going 6 innings, 1 unearned run allowed

Soriano has faced the Rangers 10 times, going 1-2, ERA 4.19
For the season, Soriano is 7-7, ERA 3.79

This is going to be a tough game. Then again, I thought Monday’s game was going to be a loss (with deGrom pitching, and Kochanowicz back from the minors).

To possibly win today, Angels need to get that pitch count up to get Eovaldi out of the game (the most pitches he’s thrown in 2025 is 102 pitches) ASAP
So, if an Angel’s player is up 1-0 (or 2-0, etc), take a few pitches. Even if you strike out, he’s still has to throw 3 strikes (vs. swinging at the first pitch and making an out).

And, yes, SELL, if possible, by the trading deadline.

RexFregosi
Super Member
1 day ago
Reply to  Phil

It’d be a nice night for Trout to hit #400 and send Jansen out with one last save.

Born_in_59
Trusted Member
1 day ago
Reply to  RexFregosi

I second this.

Born_in_59
Trusted Member
1 day ago
Reply to  Born_in_59

Of course, this will probably be three homeruns with nobody on, but if the last is a walk off it will be okay.

PedroCerrano
Super Member
1 day ago
Reply to  Twebur

Kenny F***ing Powers!

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Legend

Well, the Rally Monkey has been found…..

A GANG of mischievous monkeys has been stealing tourists’ phones at a popular cliff-side temple in Bali.

https://www.the-sun.com/tech/14867738/monkey-scam-gang-targeting-tourists/

Twebur
Legend
1 day ago

TV is desperate for anything. So much so that it will make a TV series about Ippei’s Gambling Scandal STARS? STARS.

If I were in charge of this made for TV production:
*I’d have Netflix do a 6 part documentary
*Producer/writer, a biased hater of the Doyers
*At the end of episode 6, hint that there will be a season 2 about all the cheating they do
*Cast “Shohei Fill-In Team Picture Guy” in the leading role in all re-enactments
*Cast Shohei’s dog with one of my dogs
*Cast Shohei’s tiger mom, with Shohei’s REAL mom.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  Twebur

They need to find a 6ft 5 Asian actor who can wander around with an ignorant look on his face passing out money to his translator without asking questions for about three hours of screen time.

RexFregosi
Super Member
1 day ago

Linsanity

RexFregosi
Super Member
1 day ago
Reply to  Twebur

theres really nothing to see in Anaheim, sounds boring.
Well besides :
the mayor taking bribes
evil inept owner
pr department dealing drugs
star pitcher ODs
the 3b who is the highest paid player but doesn’t speak English and beats up fans
clubbie selling good mud to the other team
surrounded by the greatest defensive player of 20th Century
and the players of the decade for the entire century?

no one would believe it but it does sound like a wild ride.

RexFregosi
Super Member
1 day ago
Reply to  RexFregosi

are lawyers and/or courtroom series popular these days?

That angle would work.

Twebur
Legend
1 day ago

I bet if the Angels were a playoff team, our players would be burgled too.

3 people attempted to break into Yoshinobu Yamamoto’s home in Los Angeles close to 5 AM this morning, per TMZ.

Several of Yamamoto’s windows and his glass door were shattered.

Thankfully, the Dodgers star’s private security called 911 and nobody got inside.

https://x.com/DodgersNation/status/1950601390814081263

BannedInLA
Super Member
1 day ago
Reply to  Twebur

Dirt naps. These people need dirt naps. As the slow motion societal collapse continues apace, this will become normal.

AngelsFanInHell
Trusted Member
1 day ago

Next link is already up.

Twebur
Legend
1 day ago

The cheese quesadilla is off the menu.

The Angels DFA’d JosĂ© Quijada to create the 2nd 40-man roster spot for Garcia/Chafin.

They don’t need to do the 26-man spots until the new guys report. (Quijada opens 26-man spot too.)

https://x.com/JeffFletcherOCR/status/1950620858520842360

GrandpaBaseball
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1 day ago

If this trade with Washington is the best that PTP can do in the last hours until time runs out, then we are looking at best a GM told to hold the phone so no other team can temp us (Per Arturo) or PTP is incompetent at the worst. Either way the team is doing nothing to improve itself. Arturo has never once been able to look and see the real future and how to build. The team from 2003 to 2009 changed very little and just left us for very little return. Ohtani left with very little in return. Now we are to get it would seem nothing in return for guys that will walk. This is a pattern as I see it and I do not see how doing nothing will help the future. Does it make a big difference if we make the PO’s with a weak team. This is not rebuilding for the future with what you are seeing right now. Very frustrating for many here who would like to see some change of direction.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend

We are buyers boys! We are RIGHT THERE. Almost almost the worst of the good teams!

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Roy Hobbs
Super Member
1 day ago

Or best of the bad teams.

Twebur
Legend
1 day ago
Reply to  Roy Hobbs

We are a really good’er at being bad.

milehigh
Trusted Member
1 day ago
Reply to  Roy Hobbs

Cream of the crap.

PedroCerrano
Super Member
1 day ago

An old boss of mine: “You’re the best mediocre employee I ever hired”. It stung because it was true and now I remember it 40 years later.

Twebur
Legend
1 day ago
Reply to  PedroCerrano

A.500 employee? Imagine how good things would for the Angels, for this Country, if everyone was at least .500. Meh is good when we’re sounded by significantly less than meh……. .500/Meh our new trAdition

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Legend
Reply to  Twebur

We clearly have a meh owner, meh GM, meh front office, meh fans, meh salty nuts guy….

It is our density destiny

Born_in_59
Trusted Member
1 day ago

I think the salty nuts guy is more than meh, at least a little.

PedroCerrano
Super Member
1 day ago
Reply to  Twebur

I’m fortunate that I outlasted those overachieving early 1950s boomers to become exceptional. Not lying to people, showing up daily and calling people back even when I don’t want to are the new exceptional.

red floyd
Legend
1 day ago

Please, use proper spelling and grammar. It’s “Worsiest”

Last edited 1 day ago by red floyd
RexFregosi
Super Member
1 day ago

just a Eugenio and a lots of luck away.

bobblanton
Trusted Member
1 day ago

3b Hayes to reds

Pineapple12
Legend
1 day ago
Reply to  bobblanton

I wanted him, damn

Brent
Super Member
1 day ago

8 years ago today was probably one of, if not the biggest meltdowns of all time when they let the Blue Jays come back down by 7 in the 9th inning to blow that game. Hoping for a better outcome tonight.

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Legend

The Chapin/Garcia trade does little – if anything – to strengthen the Angels playoff odds. If Perry is going to buy, then really buy. This feels like the type of trade to tell the fans and players that “we’re doing something”.

MLBTRADERUMORS got it right:

The Angels have acquired left-hander Andrew Chafin and right-hander Luis GarcĂ­a from the Nationals, per announcements from both clubs. The Nats receive left-hander Jake Eder and minor league first baseman Sam Brown in return. The Halos designated left-hander Jose Quijada for assignment to open a 40-man spot. Eder was on the 40-man, so his departure opened another.

Chafin, 35, started the year with the Tigers on a minor league deal. He opted out of that deal and signed a major league pact with the Nats at the start of May. He was been with the Nats since then, apart from a brief IL stint for a hamstring strain. He has thrown 20 big league innings this year, allowing 2.70 earned runs per nine, though with less impressive metrics under the hood. His 42.1% ground ball rate is around league average but his 20.5% strikeout rate and 13.6% walk rate are both subpar.

His longer track record is more impressive. He has 528 1/3 big league innings with a 3.39 ERA, 25.7% strikeout rate, 10.2% walk rate and 47.8% ground ball rate. As recently as last year with the Tigers and Rangers, he was able to post a 3.51 ERA with a 28.5% strikeout rate, though also a high walk rate of 12.6%.

García, 38, signed a minor league deal with the Dodgers in the offseason. He made that club’s Opening Day roster but was released in early July and landed with the Nats. Between the two clubs, he has a 4.10 ERA, 19.5% strikeout rate, 11.3% walk rate and 54.6% ground ball rate.

Like Chafin, he has a long major league track record. García has thrown 565 1/3 innings in his career with a 4.14 ERA, 21.3% strikeout rate, 10% walk rate and 54.5% ground ball rate. He’s been with the Angels before, having pitched for them in 2019 and the first half of 2024.

Neither pitcher is likely to be a huge difference maker. Both of them were available as free agents during the season. Still, it perhaps suggests the Angels are at least doing a soft buy. The Halos are four games out of a playoff spot, which is a tough spot to be in terms of making a buy/sell decision. But the club generally prefers to go for it when they are close and they haven’t made the playoffs since 2014. Franchise icon Mike Trout is about to turn 34 years old and increasingly injury prone. He’s hitting well this year but mostly limited to designated hitter duties.

It’s somewhat understandable that the club may want to do right by Trout and make an effort to get him back to the postseason for the first time in over a decade. The odds are against them, however. FanGraphs currently gives them just a 5.3% chance of making it in. Baseball Prospectus is even more pessimistic, putting the Halos at 2.4%.

Adding Chafin and García won’t increase those odds very much but the club does have a poor bullpen. Overall, the club’s relievers have a 4.96 ERA, which is better than just three other major league clubs.

It’s also theoretically possible that the Angels are going to flip other players, such as Kenley Jansen or Reid Detmers, with Chafin and García having been brought in to backfill the bullpen with veteran arms. Though the most straightforward read on the Angels right now is that they are looking to make some buy-side moves without really harming themselves in the long run.

Neither Eder nor Brown is a massive price to pay. Eder was once a notable prospect but his stock has fallen in recent years. He underwent Tommy John surgery in August of 2021 and hasn’t really been able to get on track since then. He has 20 1/3 big league innings with a 4.87 ERA, 18.4% strikeout rate and 11.5% walk rate. He has a 6.41 ERA in 229 minor league innings since the start of 2023. The Angels got him in a cash deal earlier this year after he had been designated for assignment by the White Sox.

Brown was a 12th-round pick in 2023, who is about to turn 24 years old. In 92 Double-A games this year, he has a .244/.350/.358 batting line and 117 wRC+. He’s not listed among the club’s top 30 prospects at Baseball America or MLB Pipeline.

It’s a perfectly sensible move for the Nats. Chafin and García were midseason pickups who are impending free agents. It makes sense to cash them in for whatever they can get. There’s no harm in taking fliers on Eder and Brown to see what happens.

For the Angels, they are apparently attempting to bolster the club. Perhaps more moves will follow before tomorrow’s deadline. For now, they haven’t given up anything of significance. In a sense, that won’t really hurt them if they fall short of the playoffs again. On the other hand, they could be passing up an opportunity to add talent to the system.

In the past, they turned down opportunities to sell notable players. Shohei Ohtani was the most notable example. Instead of trading him for a prospect haul in 2023, they held and also added players. They flipped Edgar Quero and Ky Bush for Lucas Giolito and Reynaldo López. The club then faded and put Giolito and López on waivers in August. This move doesn’t rise to that level but it’s possible the Angels are yet again betting on a team that’s not quite good enough.

They have reportedly drawn trade interest in Taylor Ward and Jo Adell. They could have shopped Jansen, Detmers, Tyler Anderson, Yoán Moncada and others. It seems unlikely that they are taking that path. Time will tell what their full deadline approach is.

Roy Hobbs
Super Member
1 day ago

I have no issue with the actual trade, but if it means not really doing anything then that is harming themselves in the long run.

AngelsFanInHell
Trusted Member
1 day ago
Reply to  Roy Hobbs

I can’t say that actually expected Perry to do anything that would help the team down the road and make them better in the long run.

steelgolf
Legend
1 day ago

Bringing Garcia back is not helping the team.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend

All I can say is Perry did a good job of giving up very little

Senator_John_Blutarsky
Legend

I hope he tried to include Rendon in the deal….

bobblanton
Trusted Member
1 day ago

Maybe we get chafin because Detmers goes back to starting because we trade TA

RexFregosi
Super Member
1 day ago
Reply to  bobblanton

things are afoot in the pen, this isn’t the end of it.

red floyd
Legend
1 day ago
Reply to  RexFregosi

But are strange things afoot at the Circle-K?

Born_in_59
Trusted Member
1 day ago
Reply to  bobblanton

Or Jansen gets traded.

smithy610
Super Member
1 day ago
Reply to  bobblanton

Not sure how realistic that is because all season long they haven’t built Reid up to be a starter. They haven’t allowed him to do multi-inning stints when his pitch count is low

bobblanton
Trusted Member
1 day ago
Reply to  smithy610

True maybe Jansen is gone or quesadilla is gone

BannedInLA
Super Member
1 day ago
Reply to  smithy610

I concur. I think the ship has sailed on Detmers being a starter – at least for 2025. I suspect they’ll attempt to stretch him out in the offseason and give it one more go as a starter in 2026.

RexFregosi
Super Member
1 day ago
Reply to  BannedInLA

^Yes^

AngelsFanInHell
Trusted Member
1 day ago

At least Perry didn’t trade for Suarez (yet).

steelgolf
Legend
1 day ago

Not yet, but he got his matching bookend Garcia!

bobblanton
Trusted Member
1 day ago

Is that the same Garcia they traded to Boston and the dodgers let go

Born_in_59
Trusted Member
1 day ago
Reply to  bobblanton

Yes.

smithy610
Super Member
1 day ago

Jared Tims
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6m
Full trade

#Angels receive: Luis Garcia and Andrew Chafin

#Nationals receive: Jake Eder and Sam Brown

Born_in_59
Trusted Member
1 day ago
Reply to  smithy610

A good trade overall. Garcia and Chafin improve a bottom-ranked bullpen and neither Eder nor Brown were viewed as part of the future. I’m interested in seeing if Perry has another incremental upgrade or two to pull out of his hat.

2pints
Trusted Member
1 day ago

this team is so f’n stupid

AngelsFanInHell
Trusted Member
1 day ago
Reply to  2pints

Not the whole team. Just the ArteChrist, Perry, Monty and Rengifo.

Get ride of those guys and we’ve kind of got something brewing.

And no, we don’t need Wash back. The game has passed him by. He was not teaching the guys how to play the right way. Ask Wally Joyner. He said it multiple times during his interview last week and he’s 100% correct.

2pints
Trusted Member
1 day ago

my comment was about them buying instead of selling. Washington was the least of this team’s problems, but since it seems he won’t be back, not sure we need to pile on him.

AngelsFanInHell
Trusted Member
1 day ago
Reply to  2pints

It was nice to hear a Halo legend continue to reiterate that the team needs to learn to play the right way. So far, there has been no definitive word that Wash won’t be back. I say we grab Martinez, who was with the Nationals.

Last edited 1 day ago by AngelsFanInHell
YOUknowulovetheIE
Super Member
1 day ago

I don’t think wash is returning. If he can’t coach due to health issues. not sure what a year older will do for him to make it happen.

Last edited 1 day ago by YOUknowulovetheIE
gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend

Yah. The health thing sounds like done to me.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend

Please, share where I can hear these hardcore facts about Wash from Wally. Can’t wait to actually hear him say that with his mouth and stuff.

AngelsFanInHell
Trusted Member
1 day ago

Wally made it clear that they were taught the right way at least three times. My friend and I had a conversation about it the next day. Even he agreed that it was a complete slight on the current regime.

milehigh
Trusted Member
1 day ago

I took that as old vet shaking fist at clouds.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend

Cool. He made it clear. I’d like to hear him clearly say that Wash doesn’t teach these guys the right way. Please tell me when, in the interview that I heard as well, he said that.

MarineLayer
Legend
1 day ago
Reply to  2pints

Not the worst problem, but still a problem. I think he should enjoy his time at rehab hanging out with RenDone.

2pints
Trusted Member
1 day ago
Reply to  MarineLayer

To his credit, the team is better this season than last. We can’t give him all the credit, just like we can’t give him all the blame when the team is poor. But the team being better is positive.

I don’t see him coming back next season though, so don’t really get why he’d be of any focus when grading the team today.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend

Please. Send me the time stamp of when Wally said Wash isn’t teaching the players to play the game the right way. I’d very much like to see/hear that. Please let us know.

AngelsFanInHell
Trusted Member
1 day ago

In whatever half inning they invited Wally to talk during the game, he clearly stated that they were taught the right way. He said it at least three times during the half inning. I don’t have access to the game anymore, but it was clearly a dig at the current management.

If you couldn’t read between the lines on that, you need glasses.

Last edited 1 day ago by AngelsFanInHell
2pints
Trusted Member
1 day ago

so he stated something so clearly that you have to read between the lines? mmmkay

Born_in_59
Trusted Member
1 day ago

https://www.mlb.com/video/wally-joyner-on-his-first-pitch-angels-career?msockid=24a679ce6021636700016ff76154628a about the 3:48 mark. For what it’s worth, it didn’t sound like a dig at the current team to me.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend
Reply to  Born_in_59

I didn’t hear “Wash doesn’t teach these guys the right” way at all. I am missing how he’s talking about Wash…. or even a guy on our team….

Born_in_59
Trusted Member
1 day ago

Wally doesn’t say “Wash doesn’t teach these guys the right way”, he said he was taught the right way and somebody interpreted that as a dig against current management.

2pints
Trusted Member
1 day ago
Reply to  Born_in_59

to be fair, someone, and their friend, interpreted it that way.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Legend
Reply to  Born_in_59

I know. wow. An old player finally gets a little attention on Old Man Day and says “kids tuh day!”. That must mean the guy I like to complain about is what I like to complain about.

Lame. Dumb. Pissy. JuJu.

Born_in_59
Trusted Member
1 day ago

To be fair, learning how to “play the right way” would be easier in a club house with Jackson, Downing, Grich, DeCinces and Boone. Maybe Washington’s problem was he didn’t bring enough crusty veterans to teach those youngsters right.

Last edited 1 day ago by Born_in_59
GrandpaBaseball
Legend
1 day ago

Wow, I missed that interview myself, but just maybe he may have been referring to how baseball in general is taught in the minor leagues, don’t you think.

AngelsFanInHell
Trusted Member
1 day ago

I hope you can find it. I will see if anything is on YouTube. My friend and I thought it was glaring shot at the current Angels’ management.

SchofieldsWalkoff
Trusted Member
1 day ago
Reply to  2pints

Because they traded Eder & Brown and decided not to trade for organization fillers?

Pineapple12
Legend
1 day ago

at least 80% of this board has no clue who Sam Brown is lol

Twebur
Legend
1 day ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

Who?

Born_in_59
Trusted Member
1 day ago
Reply to  Twebur

First Baseman for the Trash Pandas these past 2 seasons. Has shown as much power as Nolan and can walk at a good clip, but strikeouts about 22% of the time.

red floyd
Legend
1 day ago
Reply to  Twebur

Who’s on first.

RexFregosi
Super Member
1 day ago
Reply to  red floyd

Schauny is on first, but for sure, 3B is I Don’t Know.

PedroCerrano
Super Member
1 day ago
Reply to  Pineapple12

Shhhheeeh. Ran the Underground Railroad in the Civil War, don’t trifle and question my grasp of history.

2pints
Trusted Member
1 day ago

yes, call me crazy but I’m not sure they should be trading for guys born before 1991. Doesn’t really jive with a strategy to get younger and build for long term success. But what do I know?

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