LA Angels Monday News Crash: Bye Angel

MLB Gameday: Angels at Cardinals, Probable Pitchers, Lineups, and more

27 days ago

Reply to Mia

If Arte was really committed to winz…. we’d have this guy

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Jim Atkins

27 days ago

Reply to Mia

He stated ” never knowingly use a banned substance”. Just how do you get chorionic gonadotrophin in your Starbucks latte anyway?

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Twebur

27 days ago

Trout gets on track this series, starting tonight.

Fan Duel announcing Trout’s demise?
https://x.com/FDSportsbook/status/1906081866039324828

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Jeff Joiner

27 days ago

Reply to Twebur

Trout doesn’t look lost up there. He’s made some good contact.

I think he gets a hit today.

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angelsown3417

27 days ago

Reply to Twebur

Clickbait/rage farming. Complete nonsense.

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RexFregosi

27 days ago

Reply to angelsown3417

he had a hit yesterday so this is already dated.

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Roy Hobbs

27 days ago

Reply to Twebur

Let’s see how things are by the end of April. Unfortunately he still plays on a bad.

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Born_in_59

27 days ago

Royals leading the Brewers 8-0. It wasn’t just the bats then.

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JackFrost

27 days ago

Paris is in there !!!

Batting 8th in CF !

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Cowboy26

27 days ago

Reply to JackFrost

So Its The old ” I know you’re feeling better but We’re going to give you one more day of rest Kid just to make sure” speech

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Twebur

27 days ago

Reply to Cowboy26

Another 8 days, then off to the IL.

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27 days ago

Reply to Cowboy26

But! You can feel a lot better about trading Ward for…..

MOOOAAARRRRRRR KIIIIIIDDDZ!

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bobblanton

27 days ago

Reply to JackFrost

Whoopie

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27 days ago

Reply to JackFrost

MOOAAARR KIDDDZZZZ!

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Jeff Joiner

27 days ago

Former Angels top pick Sean Newcomb is on the hill for bahstun today. Gave up 4 in the first.

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27 days ago

Reply to Jeff Joiner

Surprised he got a chance this early in the season

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Jeff Joiner

27 days ago

Reply to YOUknowulovetheIE

Pretty sure he made the squad partially due to injuries in their rotation.

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https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/p/petermi01.shtml?utm_medium=linker&utm_source=www.mlbtraderumors.com&utm_campaign=2025-02-11_br

27 days ago

Reply to Jeff Joiner

I haven’t been following his career the last few years. I had high hopes for him watching him a few times in san berdo.

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DowningDude

27 days ago

Reply to Jeff Joiner

I was just remarking to myself that Andrelton Simmons is our #24 in WAR for the Angels franchise.

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Simba

27 days ago

Reply to DowningDude

Not too bad for 4.x seasons.

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Jim Atkins

27 days ago

Reply to Jeff Joiner

Listened to that game on my way down to Palm Desert. Boston got lit up real good, came back in the 8th but Orioles held on to win. Yay!

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RexFregosi

27 days ago

ChiSox have 8 runs in first two innings against the Twins
– apparent they are glad to be rid of the Halo staff.

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bobblanton

27 days ago

Reply to RexFregosi

Good for the white Sox twins just got swept by the cards who we play today. Maybe a good sign for us.

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Twebur

27 days ago

Reply to bobblanton

Too bad the Twins weren’t after the Red Birds.

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Pineapple12

27 days ago

Reply to RexFregosi

That has to mean something lol! Lending more credence to our pitching staff being good, perhaps?

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Simba

27 days ago

Reply to Pineapple12

Or the winless Twins are very, very bad.

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Jeff Joiner

27 days ago

Perry acquired another lefty. Mr. Eder, welcome aboard.

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Cowboy26

27 days ago

Reply to Jeff Joiner

Stoopid Perry loves the lefties but hates the Limeys.

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bobblanton

27 days ago

Reply to Jeff Joiner

Great pitcher from a great club. Not even good enough for the white Sox

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RexFregosi

27 days ago

Reply to bobblanton

why do we keep getting players off a 121-loss team?

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bobblanton

27 days ago

Reply to RexFregosi

Tradition

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cookmeister

27 days ago

Reply to RexFregosi

he pitched a grand total of 2 innings for the White Sox

He was a top 100 prospect in all of baseball for the Marlins not too long ago

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Cowboy26

27 days ago

Reply to cookmeister

Hes got good K/9 numbers but his walk rate is mega scary.

I’m sure we can fix him

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cookmeister

27 days ago

Reply to Cowboy26

eh, his walk rate isn’t atrocious, considering coming back from TJ surgery (and fwiw the ’24 rate is better than the ’23 rate)

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Cowboy26

27 days ago

Reply to cookmeister

good point.

Was it worth buying 40 man spot for him? Time will tell.

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bobblanton

27 days ago

Reply to Jeff Joiner

I think Perry is great at the draft but not so great on the vets. Unless he asks wash want he wants and goes and get him

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Jeff Joiner

27 days ago

Reply to bobblanton

I’ve liked his trade acquisitions as well.

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bobblanton

27 days ago

Reply to Jeff Joiner

For rookies yes

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TrojanBoiler

27 days ago

Reply to bobblanton

It’s not all bad. He did pretty well with Carlos Estevez and Luis Garcia. Drury was great when he was healthy. Tyler Anderson has at least been in line with expectations.

Most of his ‘bad signings’ were bargain bin types that were low risk. I think you really have to go back to Aaron Loup and Ryan Tepera to find some bad vet signings. Maybe Stephenson if you want to knock Perry for his being injured.

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Pineapple12

27 days ago

Reply to TrojanBoiler

Every time I salivate over our bullpen I forget about Stephenson. Imagine he comes back from TJS in good form 🤤

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steelgolf

27 days ago

Reply to Pineapple12

Who?

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MarineLayer

27 days ago

Reply to bobblanton

Yes, I love the Sam Bachman pick. Or that entire all pitcher draft which was a complete bust.

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27 days ago

Reply to MarineLayer

Complete bust? Nope
2 have made MLB & full value TBD
3 had value derived from being used as trade fodder.

5 of 20 (25%) have provided value to the MLB club.

4 are currently injured & future value TBD

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Jeff Joiner

27 days ago

It is still super early, but Paris is looking like a stud. A completely unexpected development from the farm.

For the rebuild to happen we need one or three of those.

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Twebur

27 days ago

Reply to Jeff Joiner

Let’s not forget another completely unexpected possible stud….Jack Kochanowicz spent most of his minor league career floating around with a 5+ ERA.

Might have 2? Let’s uncover a 3rd… Fingers crossed.

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Pineapple12

27 days ago

Reply to Twebur

Billy drafted em, Perry develops em!

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Jeff Joiner

27 days ago

Reply to Pineapple12

Perry did get Arte to invest more in the development program. Considering Eppler’s strategy was to draft raw athletes and develop them, this very well could be true.

Also makes me wonder what might have been with other Eppler draftees had the team spent on better video, coaching, and nutrition a decade ago.

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bobblanton

27 days ago

Paris needs to play if not cf ss or 2b

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JackFrost

27 days ago

It looks like Jo may play today…. Angels Manager Provides Massive Update on Injured Angels Outfielder

Somebody else mentioned it prior, but seeing the kid below you hit a game winning HR playing your position is a good motivator for overcoming those minor aches and pains and getting back on the field…

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Cowboy26

27 days ago

Reply to JackFrost

Ha! Just someone Frosty?

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JackFrost

27 days ago

Reply to Cowboy26

This was before the Paris HR I think…. Just said that Kyren is pushing him so he would want to come back quickly…. Was it you ?

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Cowboy26

27 days ago

Reply to JackFrost

Sorry too G.A. to link it but In Yesterday’s postgame, 55yearsangelfan rightfully pointed out:

After the Paris HR, typically he’d get the next two days off. TrAdition. With Adell hurt, our OPS leader should remain in the line up!

So of course I responded:

Or Adell makes a miraculous recovery tonite.

Its good that Wash shut that scenario down for at least one more day.

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MarineLayer

27 days ago

Reply to JackFrost

There’s a spot for him in the lineup. Tim Anderson is better used as a back up.

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27 days ago

The baseball world is a sadder place without Dick Lovelady in the MLB.

Those Yankee bats are…. fine. Any player who wants one can get one and could have had one for months. Sounds like some Yankees put the work in, figured out how to make them work well, and are benefiting. The only bummer is that the Tigers or Reds didn’t all do this. Or our sad ass offense.

Max Scherzer is a true CtPG Guy. Well, accept he’s actually been really good at baseball stuff. But read his comments on this injury. It sounds like it was almost likely that planes would have fallen from the sky and children would have been attacked by pets if he’d thrown one more pitch with that thumb. The way he talks about things like the pitch clock, robo umps, new tooth brushes…. could anybody be so expert and so drama club at the same time? You are just cooked Max. It’s OK. And yet, this is how a “true man of baseball” should talk….. 1000 words of feelz to explain why you took 14M dollars when you know you can’t really throw a baseball right now and how furrowed your brow is about it all.

He’s giving a shit so hard he’s having trouble pushing it out. Some of you guys must love that. And I actually like him. He just gets a little ridiculous sometimes.

Well. Our pitching sure didn’t fall apart post Tempe. Expert minds have told me the St Louis Cardinals will tear our pitchers a new one. Could it be that our incredibly stupid manager put Hendricks in a spot to pitch to the Cardinals because he’s seen those guys a ton? It may be. It may not matter because he throws 62 MPH.

I’m tentatively hopeful we can be A’s good if our pitching is kinda good and our offense picks up…. which it will. Almost all our guys are underperforming for three whole games. I’m still fairly sure we’ll break that 70 win barrier.

There was a lot of crying about how we won two games and how we will lose some games. I’m glad we didn’t lose two to the White Sox. A bunch of middle aged men downing a bottle of Tylenol and a box of Costco wine with repeating James Taylor on Pandora is not the way to kick off a season. Messy and gross.

Onward to the middle yee Halos!

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Twebur

27 days ago

Reply to gitchogritchoffmypettis

Perry apologies to Dick for in rough treatment in Canada, saves from Blue Jay scrape-heap, signs to SL AAA contract to team up with Touki Toussaint to fight crime and win ballgames?
Free Dick!

lovely.wav – PTP: “She is a lovely lady and my apologies to her.”

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MarineLayer

27 days ago

Glad we got the two wins, but the infield coach Washington made a series of baffling moves, including lifting the starting pitchers too early in games two and three, weird bullpen moves including using the position player in game one, going a second inning with Ryan Johnson, and hitting Schnauel at two and Anderson at three. Once again, we’ve got a manager who doesn’t know how to manage. Still glad we got the wins despite his lack on competence.

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toad2065

27 days ago

Reply to MarineLayer

And where exactly did you get your MLB managing experience?

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27 days ago

Reply to toad2065

C’mon man, those are questionable moves made by a coach, don’t deflect from them.

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Pineapple12

27 days ago

Reply to YOUknowulovetheIE

I’ll bite. Soriano and Silent C are two of the most important arms in the organization. Why is managing their first outing of the year such a terrible idea, especially when you trust your bullpen?

I don’t think Schanuel should be batting 2nd either; however, you look up and he’s third on the team in batting average. Optimal in the second hole? Maybe not, but Wash has been on record several times stating that Schanuel a placeholder until Rengifo is moved up to 2nd.

Sending Ryan Johnson out for a second inning and batting TA fifth were both awful decisions. TA was immediately and correctly pushed down to eighth in his second start.

We can sit here and scrutinize every managerial decision. Whether you hate Wash with a burning passion like ML or greatly appreciate Wash like me, trying to prove a narrative correct after every series will be exhausting and fruitless.

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bobblanton

27 days ago

Reply to Pineapple12

I agree micromanaging is never any good. But we can all agree that he has made questionable decisions but it’s a long season. Hopefully their bats come alive, like paris did in the 8 th inning yesterday. The only spark the Angels have had from their hitters so far. To not play that spark would be a huge mistake in my opinion. For fun here are the mistakes I have seen from wash so far
1. Batting Order
2. Not playing Paris when others are struggling
3. Putting a non pitcher in the first game of the season with a day off the next day.
4. Sending Ryan Johnson out for a second inning with a full bullpen available.
Of course this is my opininion and you know what opinions are like.

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27 days ago

Reply to bobblanton

I think that we can all agree that a guy who starts listing all the questionable shit you’ve done, some of which isn’t even all that questionable, through THREE GAMES is kind of a dick. The fact that the guy doing all the listing is talking about a guy who has succeeded in baseball, while the guy doing the talking has succeeded in watching baseball without choking on his food, makes the Big Talker a bit of a turd.

Let’s not deflect from the serious tendencies towards being a bunch of hot fragrant hard blowing turds around here. We’ve had 1000 at bats and the scouting report is in. I’m not sure CtPG will ever not be a soft warm collapsing turd… it is what it is… it gets the team it deserves…. it’s juju is poo… tear it down, or rather march it to death in the desert.

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MarineLayer

27 days ago

Reply to gitchogritchoffmypettis

It’s so great to be called a dick because I have an opinion. I wonder what that makes you.

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27 days ago

Reply to MarineLayer

Awesome? a dick? Awesome dick?

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Cowboy26

27 days ago

Reply to MarineLayer

Technically he called you a bit of turd too. Not sure thats much better.

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27 days ago

Reply to Cowboy26

small turds always better

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Jeff Joiner

27 days ago

Reply to gitchogritchoffmypettis

Let’s end this now. Calling a poster a dick is a clear personal attack and well outside of community guidelines.

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MarineLayer

27 days ago

Reply to Jeff Joiner

Thank you, Jeff, I’m trying to post my opinions in a reasonable way. I would love to stick to opinions and away from personal attacks.

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27 days ago

Reply to Jeff Joiner

Sorry

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27 days ago

Reply to gitchogritchoffmypettis

His moves were criticized by former players, not just people on this blog.

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27 days ago

Reply to gitchogritchoffmypettis

Yeah, we’re all turds here except for you man. Great thinking there.

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27 days ago

Reply to YOUknowulovetheIE

Who says I’m not a turd?

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27 days ago

Reply to gitchogritchoffmypettis

Do you include yourself in your cptg rants? I haven’t noticed

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27 days ago

Reply to YOUknowulovetheIE

I’m part of the blob am I not?

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MarineLayer

27 days ago

Reply to Pineapple12

I don’t care about Washington one way or the other. I just want us to have a good manager who makes good decisions. Based on what I have seen so far, I don’t feel he is that guy. I appreciate your optimism and I hope you are right about being optimistic, I see things slightly differently, and I think there is room for both of our opinions on this board.

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Pineapple12

27 days ago

Reply to MarineLayer

100%!

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Cowboy26

27 days ago

Reply to MarineLayer

Yes but as important in game strategy is, at this point in the franchise’s life, Player development is way more crucial. If Wash and his coaches continue to have a positive effect on the development of O’Hoppe, Paris, Adell, Schanuel, Moore, Neto and the young pitching staff I can put up with some boneheaded pitching moves and starting lineup decisions. Because in the long run the team’s potential and success will benefit more.

(Of course I will be the first here to completely ignore this extremely rational comment the next time MoRon pulls our starting pitcher too early or sits El Fuego Paris’ down on the bench in lieu of Tim Anderson or Newman flailing at the plate.)

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27 days ago

Reply to Cowboy26

Watch Anderson start over Paris today.. lol

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JackFrost

27 days ago

Reply to YOUknowulovetheIE

That would be a total Scioscia move.

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Cowboy26

27 days ago

Reply to YOUknowulovetheIE

He will because Wash had already promised TA 2 starts at shortstop before he would evaluate the shortstop position. Yesterday was the first.

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TrojanBoiler

27 days ago

Reply to Pineapple12

I agree with your first take entirely. Our bullpen is probably the strength of the roster. Pulling the starters in their first game of the season after 6+ innings was a long term preservation decision that I can live with.

Every team juggles batting order decisions through the first few weeks of the season so I’ve got no issues there either.

The Ryan Johnson decision definitely makes no sense to me. A rookie pitcher who just got through his first inning clean should get an atta boy and a pat on the butt. With a fully rested bullpen and a day off the next day this was perplexing.

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27 days ago

Reply to TrojanBoiler

Why should he have gotten a good job when it looked like he had plenty left in the tank?

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27 days ago

Reply to SchofieldsWalkoff

Just seems silly to have a bullpen arm go multiple innings when literally every other arm is fresh and you have a day off the next day. He isn’t a long reliever as far as I am aware.

If nothing else, let him pitch a scoreless frame and hit the bench with a 0.00 ERA through his first appearance rather than risk damaging his confidence by sending him back out there with a chance to get fatigued and get knocked around.

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27 days ago

Reply to TrojanBoiler

I can’t give credence to outsiders pointing to the confidence argument.

Baseball players deal with failure their whole playing “career”. If this is the outing that causes him to go Ankiel, better to do it now than when you’re relying on him in high leverage situations.

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TrojanBoiler

27 days ago

Reply to SchofieldsWalkoff

Of course they do, but virtually none of them are in the unique situation of pitching in the majors for the first time after also never pitching in the minors. That’s a different kind of failure that could make you second guess if you are ready for the big show.

Regardless, that was my secondary reason. It mainly just seemed silly to ask a non long reliever to go multiple innings with an entirely rested pen and an off day to follow.

Clearly Wash trusts his bullpen after pulling Soriano and Silent C as early as he did. Why not give RJ the same treatment, especially with an off day? Just seems weird and inconsistent.

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Cowboy26

27 days ago

Reply to SchofieldsWalkoff

A rookie who had never pitched an inning above mid major College ball?

Wash should have taken the gimme and moved on.

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27 days ago

Reply to Cowboy26

and dude pitched like a grizzled vet getting 3 easy outs.

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27 days ago

Reply to Pineapple12

He’s doing the same mistakes he did last year and we’re only 3 games in. That’s alarming.

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MarineLayer

27 days ago

Reply to toad2065

Huh, this is a message board where people with no managing experience express their opinions. If you don’t like my opinion, go ahead and express yours I won’t comment about your lack of managing experience either.

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https://youtu.be/tEVsRLhet2k?feature=shared

27 days ago

Reply to MarineLayer

That manager who just drunkenly stumbled into a couple World Series with the stank of whores all over him.

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MarineLayer

27 days ago

Reply to gitchogritchoffmypettis

That’s a great take. I have no idea what it has to do with what I just said.

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DowningDude

27 days ago

Love that image of Figgy, @RexFregosi! Classic!

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Roy Hobbs

27 days ago

We’re heavy dogs for today’s game.

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DowningDude

27 days ago

Reply to Roy Hobbs

under or over variety?

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Cowboy26

27 days ago

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Roy Hobbs

27 days ago

Reply to DowningDude

Yes

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Pineapple12

27 days ago

Remember the days when the Angels didn’t have pitching? Those days are now in the past. 3 quality starts to begin the season!

Tyler Anderson has a plan for us today.

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Biggiswrth

27 days ago

Reply to Pineapple12

Keeping us in balls games longer might make us the scrappy team that can pull off some late inning antics! It’s better baseball to watch too.

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JackFrost

27 days ago

Reply to Pineapple12

Well, Soriano and Silent C appear to be up to the task. As far as I am concerned, those are our #1 and # 2 guys. I was especially impressed with the mental makeup of Silent C in that after giving up those two in the first he did not fall apart. He got right back on the horse, righted the ship, or whatever metaphor you want to use. The mental part of the game is so big for pitchers…. in the past some of our talented young guys didn’t have it. But it appears Silent C does…. And Soriano just has purely awesome stuff.

But let’s see about 3-5. Kikuchi I think can be at least average. I feel he will keep us in games on most nights. But I have concerns about Anderson and Hendricks because of the way they pitch. They rely on expert control and deception. Very little room for error with those guys…

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Cowboy26

27 days ago

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Better give credit where credit is due Frostie. Having backup catcher Travis D’Arnaud behind the plate yesterday was huuge. When it became apparent that the Pale Hose were sitting on his sinker and she wasn’t sinking very well, D’Arnaud had Silent C implement a revised the game plan and went to a heavy diet of 4 seamers. As result C kept us in the game while being near the leader board yesterday for swings & misses

I doubt we had this resource available to us last year to make meaningful in game changes. Good for Perry to make this change as well as Wash to start him yesterday. Last year O’Hoppe would have got the day game start after a day game.

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27 days ago

Reply to Cowboy26

IF you believe the articles written about the D’Arnaud signing, this is precisely what he was signed for; the in-game adjustments based on what he sees. This is exactly what O’Hoppe is learning. That’s not a knock on O’Hoppe, as he says he has much to learn. Now he’s got someone to teach it to him.

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Twebur

27 days ago

Reply to BruinsAngelsKings

That will be the most important aspect of D’Arnaud signing, teaching O’Hoppe.

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JackFrost

27 days ago

Reply to Cowboy26

Very true. Travis is a big plus for us at backup catcher; especially on the defensive side. D’Arnaud > Thaiss. And there is no question about that. It was probably Perry’s best off-season move.

And Travis (as well as Barry Enright of course) may have played a role in keeping Silent C calm (both things can be true and valid; the change in approach AND keeping the mental/emotional balance).

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27 days ago

Reply to Cowboy26

Best part, you KNOW he and O’Hoppe talked through that too.

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FungoAle

27 days ago

Reply to Pineapple12

Would like to see a larger body of work before I gain confidence. Certainly a good showing.

I also look at a pitcher/staff to determine if their stuff is post-season material, i.e. swing and miss stuff with 1-2 out pitches. Soriano can get there, Kikuchi can be if he sticks to his Astro pitch-mix but I would not trust Anderson or Hendricks. I have to see Kochanowicz go into NY, Boston and Baltimore before I allow my head to swell..

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Biggiswrth

27 days ago

Reply to FungoAle

It’s also crazy to think we still have Detmers and Dana waiting in the wings

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Roy Hobbs

27 days ago

Reply to Biggiswrth

It’s certainly a step forward. We have some work to so on the position player side of things.

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RexFregosi

27 days ago

Reply to Biggiswrth

my favorite in the wings is Jamie Arnold 🙂

BA has a new mock draft this morning, with Hernandez to the Nats and we get Jamie Arnold.

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Pineapple12

27 days ago

Reply to RexFregosi

We have a lot of baseball to be played. As of today, Holliday and Hernandez are my top 2

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DowningDude

27 days ago

Reply to Pineapple12

“We have a lot of baseball to be played” is the new “it’s early.”

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