LA Angels Thursday News Crash: Mount Rushmore

Who would you place on the Angels Mount Rushmore of stupendous individual seasons? Shohei Ohtani made the list. One of the things he did well in 2021 is dial up the heat in two strike counts. Meanwhile, I wonder if I should do a Mount Rushmore of stupidity article.

The brinksmanship continues. MLB apparently said they are going to postpone some regular season games. Here comes the economic pain that is supposed to get people serious about the negotiations.

In news I’m sure everybody has been waiting for, Edubray Ramos signed with the Kentucky Wild Health Genomes of the Atlantic League.

Bunting Contest? What’s bunting, Precious?

I think the acronym would have been funnier if they just called it the “Fans Union.

Long time Seattle Mariners Spanish language broadcaster Julio Cruz passed away at the age of 67. He was a nice guy, although apparently reading comprehension was not his strong suit.

Photo credit: Rex Fregosi

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2002heaven
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2 years ago

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Not resigning Zack and not drafting Shane.
Pretty stupid, incompetent and CHEAP!!!

red floyd
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2 years ago
Reply to  2002heaven

Greinke wanted way to much money. He was very up front that it was all about the Benjamins.

2002heaven
Super Member
2 years ago
Reply to  red floyd

Yes, as opposed to Anthony Rendon, Josh Hamilton, and Justin Upton, who were all very low cost one yr deals like we always do for SP’s.
 😫  😠  😟  👎  👈 ……..Good Gawd!!!
I’m done for today……

matthiasstephan
Super Member
2 years ago
Reply to  2002heaven

Not drafting Shane Beiber, who was drafted in the 4th round, was cheap? Everyone passed on him multiple times – what kind of time machine do you think Arte is supposed to have?

cookmeister
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2 years ago

don’t worry. This guy complains about ever guy the angels didn’t draft or sign that happened to turn out good. Bryan Reynolds was the latest one I think

2002heaven
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2 years ago
Reply to  cookmeister

I think Bieber was born in the Anaheim Stadium parking lot and our scouts still missed him. 💩  💩  💩 

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  2002heaven

Ohhhhhhh Oh Ohhhh…. Tootytwo!

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gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Well, here’s the latest MLBPA proposal for a draft lottery. It’s convoluted. Maybe that’s why a bear of only average intelligence like myself doesn’t understand how this is supposed to address competitive balance issues.

Yes. I understand how draft lotteries work. But when I look at this whole mess it seems like teams like the Brewers, Twins, Pirates, Reds, Indians, Royals and especially those damn pesky Rays and A’s who keep f***ing up and winning instead of letting big coastal teams into the post season, are all one or two bad drafts away from pretty much always sucking, never having money, and always picking 10th. I mean, is this supposed to motivate these teams to bid up the contract that Dallas Keuchel eventually signs?

I do however look forward to the day that LeBraun James’ son represents the Angels at the lottery after Arte does the right thing, gives up, sells the team to an ownership group made up primarily of Russian human traffickers and South East Asian organ dealers, fronted by a winner of color in Le Braun (owner of 6% of the team!) who “knows how to win” and “speaks to the COMMUNITY”, but still loses 90 a year because of budget. But at least LeBlonde will probably hire a POBO cause that move’s got zazz.

Also, this new draft will solve the problem where the Yankees and Red Sox never seem to have 20 of the top 30 prospects, which is bad for baseball…. and is also a major cause of global warming and dangerous infections.

So yeah, this is probably a good idea. Or you could skip all of this bullshit and make every dollar of Comp Balance money go to player payroll. Or hell, even 85%. what ever.

Jeff Joiner
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2 years ago

Loved the story about Julio and the gift certificate.

Jeff Joiner
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2 years ago

Rushmore of Stupidity: Jepsen throwing an intentional walk pitch to the backstop in extra innings and costing us the game. Was the Not Top 10 #1 play for a while.

Rushmore of Individual Seasons: Frankie setting the all time saves record.

Cowboy26
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2 years ago

Is it possible to be too slow even for a pace car?

https://twitter.com/TaylorBlakeWard/status/1496911630260588555

MarineLayer
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2 years ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Maybe they’ll let him use his electric golf cart, the one for seniors.

red floyd
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2 years ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

[COMIC BOOK GUY VOICE]

Slowest. Lap. Ever.

Fansince1971
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2 years ago

Mount Rushmore- Nolan Ryan’s 1973 season with 388 strikeouts.

On the CBA negotiations- it’s funny to me every time I hear that the owners could just end the lockout and allow baseball camps to open. Why the heck would they do that from a leverage standpoint?! The owners’ leverage truly starts when games are not played and players are not earning money. The longer that goes – the bigger advantage to the owners.

If owners just ended the lockout, they would have to start paying players come the regular season. That would shift the leverage to the players who could collect their paychecks and be in no rush re a new CBA.

From a purely negotiations standpoint- unless the Union accepts the Owner’s offer, it is in the Owners’’ interest to have the season delayed putting the monetary screws to the players’ thumbs. That may not be best for the fans or baseball, but it is the best strategy to advance the owners’ economic interests. So why would we expect them to do anything else?

Last edited 2 years ago by Fansince1971
Jeff Joiner
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2 years ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

If the owners lift the lockout then the story every day will switch to “is today the day the players strike?”

You are dead on right. It won’t happen for all those reasons.

And even if it did, I wouldn’t renew my tickets under that scenario.

Fansince1971
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2 years ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

Jeff – I am giving up my 28 years of season tickets once the credited season I am owed (from 2020 and then 2021) is done.. I had thought that would be 2022 but now am not so sure. It is paid in full and they will not reimburse. So, I’ll use the credit and then say sayonara.

I’ll go to 6-10 games a year at some point when I am over my frustration with both the owners and the players. But my interest in making a season ticket investment in baseball is gone.

Jeff Joiner
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2 years ago
Reply to  Fansince1971

I’ve never done full season. Generally the 20 game flex plan. For a couple of years there I did the premium e vouchers.

My favorite games are Sunday afternoon and they are rarely full so I’ve been considering not renewing anyway. But with the vouchers I could take a couple nephews, get good seats, and save some $.

For the first time in a long time, I’m probably going without a ticket package this year. I’ll get face value or below at StubHub, maybe splurge for Opening Night or an LA game.

red floyd
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2 years ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

When I go, I tend to do the Sunday day games, because I can take the train and be sure I can get back to the Valley after the game.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
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Reply to  Fansince1971

But the owners are rich. Once you have enough money you’re supposed to do stupid shit to make me feel like I’m winning.

Mas_Angeles
Member
2 years ago

The Angels’ Mount Rushmore of Stupidity would have to include Premium, if only for The Throw.

steelgolf
Super Member
2 years ago
Reply to  Mas_Angeles

The top of the mount Rushmore of Stupidity would have to be both the Hamilton signing, and the Vernone Wells trade.

WallyChuckChili
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2 years ago
Reply to  steelgolf

Vinnie Pestano trade?

red floyd
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2 years ago

Two 8-7 pitchers.

Last edited 2 years ago by red floyd
Cowboy26
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2 years ago
Reply to  red floyd

Dumb & Dumber as a rock; Gene Mauchiavellian edition:

  • Skipping Ken Forsch in the 1982 ALCS rotation
  • Bringing Donnie Moore into pitch after getting a cortisone shot in his rib cage before game 5
Twebur
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2 years ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

I never heard about the Moore cortisone shot….

sad story…..trAdition.
https://stowens.medium.com/unbalanced-5a4147f0b18d

Cowboy26
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2 years ago
Reply to  Twebur

There was also a great book about the 1986 post season called one pitch away. It spends a ton of time on that series including the players reactions to bringing Donnie Moore in and the game 5 meltdown. I highly recommend it if you enjoy reliving train wrecks.

https://www.abebooks.com/Pitch-Away-Players-Stories-1986-League/30953508637/bd?cm_mmc=ggl-_-US_Shopp_Trade50up-_-product_id=COM9780028608464NEW-_-keyword=&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIrrKX0aWZ9gIVYA2tBh1MGwbjEAQYAyABEgIIOPD_BwE

RexFregosi
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2 years ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

tragic day

Eric_in_Portland
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2 years ago
Reply to  RexFregosi

I’d have left Witt in.

max
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max
2 years ago
Reply to  red floyd

we’re going to need a bigger mount

red floyd
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2 years ago

At least he had a good nickname (on the old site if nowhere else) that made him sound like a mafioso. Vinnie the Pest.

steelgolf
Super Member
2 years ago

Ugggghhh.

Eric_in_Portland
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2 years ago
Reply to  Charles Sutton

Nothing happens when I click new option. I want to add “no pinch runner for Morales”

Eric_in_Portland
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2 years ago
Reply to  Charles Sutton

thanks! voted!

red floyd
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2 years ago
Reply to  Charles Sutton

I voted for Buzzie, but no pinch runner for KMo is right up there.

Cowboy26
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2 years ago
Reply to  red floyd

Buzzie should get a bonus votes for other boneheaded comments and moves. In fact there is a tie in to the game 5 meltdown . Emil Bavasi’s insults and dissing of Don Baylor led to extra motivation for Groove to hit .346/.469/.577 in the 1986 ALCS including a 2 HR in the top of the ninth to set up the infamous pitching change and Hendu’s go ahead homer.

https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1986-10-06-sp-4422-story.html

Mas_Angeles
Member
2 years ago
Reply to  Charles Sutton

Had to vote for something other than Premium. You guys mentioning these other cases — yeah, I have to agree: there’s a difference between short term brain farts and stupid decisions that hamstring the team for years.

This does bring up an interesting question: what is arguably stupider?

  • Panic trading (Wells)
  • Cheaping out on your best player (Ryan)
  • Believing the hype in a prospect, to the point it disallows other options (Baldoquin)
  • Overpaying an older player to the point it hampers your ability to build out a full roster (Pujols)

I don’t have an answer, I’m just curious to know what you guys think.

RexFregosi
Super Member
2 years ago
Reply to  Mas_Angeles

i like Arte. Comparitvely speaking, he’s way ahead of most owners and he spends on players.

but the problem is, Arte almost sweeps the podium for this Mt. Rushmore of Stupidity

The “two 8-7 pitchers” comment is tops.

Then the 1986 Game 5 could have it’s own Mt. Rushmore but i always hate to revisit the darkest day of my life.

Cowboy26
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2 years ago
Reply to  RexFregosi

So Buzzie gets the Golden Buttercup?

Mia
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Mia
2 years ago

War breaking out, it’s 5 degrees outside, and no baseball in sight.

Dark days, folks.

steelgolf
Super Member
2 years ago
Reply to  Mia

actually it is 45 degrees with a high of 64 degrees today, and sunny.

Mia
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Mia
2 years ago
Reply to  steelgolf

We get it, you live in SoCal 😂

steelgolf
Super Member
2 years ago
Reply to  Mia

And I don’t ever, want to even think about having to shovel snow, just to be able to drive somewhere. 😬

Mia
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Mia
2 years ago
Reply to  steelgolf

It truly is awful.

Eric_in_Portland
Legend
2 years ago
Reply to  steelgolf

It snowed in portland last night. It’s already melted so no shovel for me. Meanwhile….if the world blows up, how will the Angels play road games?

Fansince1971
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2 years ago

When the going gets tough, the tough turns pro.

Cowboy26
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2 years ago
Reply to  Mia

War breaking out? MLB and the players have been fighting for years.

red floyd
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2 years ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

Ukraine, dude.

RexFregosi
Super Member
2 years ago
Reply to  Mia

then it got much more darker when 1985 Game 5 was brought up.

red floyd
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2 years ago
Reply to  RexFregosi

I think you mean 1986. Unless you mean WS game 5 and you’re a Cards fan.