LA Angels Weekend News Crash: Take A Look

We keep talking about 2022. Let’s start by taking a look at our opponents this home stand and realize we are currently chasing all 3 in the standings and will go into the offseason looking up at them. Perry and Co. don’t need to simply improve the team. They need to make the Angels better than three division rivals. Not easy.

Oakland really kicked the snot out of the Halos this year, taking the season series 15 games to 4. Our boys single handedly have kept Oakland in the Wild Card race as the A’s are only 67-66 against everybody else as I type this.

The Angels are 5-13 vs. the Asterisks this year as of this writing. Not that Houston needed help winning the division, but we gave it to them. And to the surprise of nobody, there’s now proof they cheated well beyond 2017 and into the 2019 playoffs.

We still have two series remaining against Seattle but sit a disappointing 5-8 against them heading into the weekend.

In case you are keeping score, that is a putrid 15-36 against the class of the division. Playing .500 ball against those three puts us right into the playoff chase.

Houston has a loaded free agent class and could lose some key pieces. But as a couple of guys leave payroll opens up and they’ve really hit well in the free agent market in recent years.

Oakland could fall back to the pack some as they have an enormous arbitration class and will almost certainly ship out some key pieces. However, they seem to do this all the time and keep on chugging, so we can’t count on that.

A division rivalry falls by the wayside when it comes to a scenario like Chris Bassit and it is great to see him back on the mound after taking a 100mph ball to the head last month.

Seattle is trending in the right direction with plenty of payroll flexibility and a farm system rated second in the game by Baseball America.

In short, Perry and Arte are going to have to go well beyond what we consider to be reasonable to compete next year. A division championship is truly against all odds.

If you want to really depress yourself, take a look at the 10 losses that defined the Angels season.

But onto 2022. Our current week of suck has bumped us to 12 in the 2022 draft, just ahead of the NY Angels, err Mets.

Of course 2022 will be better if we can take a failed outfielder and figure out how to make him hit 100 MPH out of the bullpen.

People sometimes ask why I pay for The Athletic. Easy. For articles like this. A truly incredible story about family, love, loss, and how baseball ties them all together. That is the longform for the weekend and I’ve read it more than once. Truly a great piece.

Conversely, Yahoo couldn’t have done much worse in their piece about 6 veterans who deserve a ring. First a cover photo of an Astro, then a confirmed roider in Nelson Cruz. I’ll root for Votto and McCutchen all day, but never the first two.

The Cardinals are scorching hot and not a moment too soon. They’ve soared into a Wild Card spot and these are the keys to that hot streak. One reason is that Jon Lester has been on fire as of late.

I might have to go back to school now that college students get MLB.TV for free. Let’s see, one free junior college class, ID, free baseball…

And while the Angels are out of it, the race in the NL West is simply amazing. Honestly I’ve been watching SF as much as the Halos lately because every game means so much and is so exciting. Hopefully Dodger killer Kole Calhoun can help relegate the boys in blue to the wild card game.

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gitchogritchoffmypettis
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I thought it was just a given that the Astros kept cheating until they were in hot water and guys were getting fired. Was that supposed to be some kind of mystery? Are people taken aback by this? I thought the whole theme of last season was that it was their first without “help”. Maybe if we could study why people are shocked by this we could come to understand politics, or why folks pay extra money to have vents that are not vents added to their car, or fried mayo. All mysteries.

Raise your hand if you would have been happy on April 1, 2021 with an off season pitching overhaul of Jon Lester, Wade LeBlanc, Adam Wainwright and JA Happ? Sure, Wainwright’s still good, but he’s old, and if we’d signed him (which we couldn’t, yet another arm who wouldn’t have come here) you would have complained. The rest of that pile?

I like Joey Votto. I hope he wins a WS.

GrandpaBaseball
Super Member
29 days ago

I really dislike the Asstros along with The Major League Baseball Commissioner Robert Manfred who’s hind tit “leadership” has embarrassed the sport. The Yankees and Red Sox got off way to easy in cheating sandal of sign stealing. All “Roid” users got off way too easy and from then on slowly the game of MLB eroded in paying fans and in TV ratings. Next on my list is the Angels owner and cronies for ruining the team to such a point even with superstars we hardly draw on the road because who really gives a darn except us the loyalist. (Sidebar; I loved Gene Autry even when we were a losing team for so long.). Last on my list is the Analytic folks who have helped take the game down a few pegs (Yes I am Aware they thought their input would help.). But when a strikeout is deemed to be better than hitting the ball when men are on base because there will be no DP. Anyway I still love the Angels and unlike most I do root for both NFL teams, and both SoCal Hockey and NBA teams, all the College teams and High School Baseball, Football and Basketball teams. But my second favorite sport after Baseball is Curling. lots of laughs but true.

DowningDude
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DowningDude
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29 days ago
Reply to  DowningDude

I thought we had banned rain in the latest election.

Designerguy
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29 days ago
Reply to  DowningDude

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Twebur
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29 days ago
Reply to  DowningDude

Where is Vince Coleman?

Eric_in_Portland
Super Member
29 days ago
Reply to  DowningDude

I bet he’s already the first in MLB history to 45/25/5/24

smithy610
Member
29 days ago
Reply to  DowningDude

Just keep taking those walks, Shohei, and then steal ‘em some bases.

steelgolf
Super Member
29 days ago
Reply to  DowningDude

Downing Dude, thanks for the tv screen grab from last night’s game. My wife says it really shows my son’s excitement and personality. She could practically hear him just looking at that photo. She was home with our daughter.

DowningDude
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29 days ago
Reply to  steelgolf

Gladly. Was multi-tasking while watching the game, turn my head and saw you guys …

Actual image of me when i saw you…

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steelgolf
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29 days ago
Reply to  DowningDude

😂

YOUknowulovetheIE
Trusted Member
1 month ago

I didn’t know the asstros scandal went so deep. Bunch of cheating mfs. Hinch and Cora should’ve been banned from the game for good and the players 50 game suspension a piece. What a crock of shit punishment from pathetic commissioner.

Angels2020Champs
Super Member
1 month ago

Always enjoy the weekend links, thank you.
Love Calhoun’s picture, been to a few west coast parks recently and have seen some great defense. When the good defense has been in RF its made me think of the long journey it’s been in RF for Angels baseball this year.
Actually flying out to east coast tonight to check out Worchester woo sox and some other sports.
Have a good weekend everyone. Go angels!

DowningDude
Super Member
1 month ago

That crap is pronounced WOO-stuh in the Chowd dialect, isn’t it? reading it in normal person speak, it’s WAR-Chester.

Have a righteous journey, A2020C.

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Angels2020Champs
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1 month ago
Reply to  DowningDude

I’ve made the pronunciation mistake (and now on purpose) to family/friends that live on the east coast for years now. You are correct on it btw.

Thanks, hope you have a good one as well!

Angels2020Champs
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29 days ago
Reply to  DowningDude

Check this out downingdude

https://youtu.be/bXyFy3d8QeI

DowningDude
Super Member
29 days ago

hahahahahahaha – nice!

Definitely NSFW but funny as hell.

steelgolf
Super Member
29 days ago

Enjoy your trip !!!

Designerguy
Super Member
1 month ago

The one key change the Angels need to make is the owner. I’ve given Arte the benefit of a doubt for years, but I’m tired of his antics. The front office is full of yes-men who don’t give two-shits about putting a winner on the field. They only want brand names to splash on billboards and sell merchandise.

Sell the team, Arte. You’ve proven incapable by having non-baseball people run the front office for years.

MLB is a small industry, and quality people (eg, GM) won’t work for the team as long as you meddle.

Sell the team and enjoy your billions.

red floyd
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1 month ago
Reply to  Designerguy

Killing the Stripling trade was the last straw. Did we ever find out WHY he did that?

DowningDude
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29 days ago
Reply to  Twebur

“If the player wants to be an Angel, he’s going to be an Angel.”

bradllee424
Trusted Member
29 days ago
Reply to  DowningDude

Okay we will find out if that is true or not with Cobb. Apparently he keeps stating he wants to be an Angel. He is a good #4 or #5 pitcher at least.

smithy610
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29 days ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

Thinking about it – who was Arte’s last big FA success?! I have to go all the way back to Vlad and Bartolo. And he was a new owner then who hit the jackpot.

Everything else was a big fat failure. Yes, I was excited when Pujols signed. I knew even then it would be bad towards the end. But I was expecting at least consistent playoff appearances throughout the first five years or so.

Cowboy26
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29 days ago
Reply to  smithy610

Uhh Torii Hunter says HELLO

DowningDude
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29 days ago
Reply to  Cowboy26

DEL NINJA, FTW!

ihearhowie3.0
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29 days ago
Reply to  smithy610

Does Ohtani qualify?

I thought Rendon was going to be an easy win but yikes.

GrandpaBaseball
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29 days ago
Reply to  ihearhowie3.0

I screamed bloody murder with signing an almost 30 year old player to 7 years after a career year and was taken to the wood shed. Dumb signing. So he has a couple of big years, it’s Albert 2.0.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Super Member

Have you ever actually looked at his B Ref? That red word there is called a link.

It’s not like the year he had before we signed him was some anomaly. Nor was he an injury risk unless you want to go back 4 years. Finally, how many good FAs can you find under 30 years old? Then, in 2020 he was on pace for another “career year” which was actually an average year for him.

That’s probably why you were taken to the woodshed. We needed a third baseman, the two pitchers we wanted both wanted to play on the East Coast. Signing Rendon made sense and still does. He’s just hurt this year…. like Trout.

MarineLayer
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1 month ago

While those 10 loses are surely bad, I bet I could find 10 others that are equally soul crushing, but I’m not a masochist.

Eric_in_Portland
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1 month ago
Reply to  MarineLayer

I’m not gonna look at that article, thank you

MarineLayer
Trusted Member
1 month ago

Having lived in the Bay Area for many years has turned me into preferring the Dodgers over SF. The locals hatred of all things LA can’t be overstated and gets tiring for this SoCal native. The only thing that keeps me here is my wife’s career. I would like nothing better than to return to my place of birth in SoCal. Meantime, I wish all Bay Area teams nothing but the worst. Beat SF!

DowningDude
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  MarineLayer

Hahahah! Nice. They are exceptionally douchey up there about their sports. I learned it day 1 in my dorms at college (halfway in-between LA and SF) when the lone TV in the building had to be showing the 49ers as opposed to the Rams – even though I had staked out the TV an hour before gametime and nobody was in the room.

These same sets of tools seriously complained that “you guys in LA steal our water” – while theoretically true, had nothing to do with TV rights on a Sunday morning.

MarineLayer
Trusted Member
1 month ago
Reply to  DowningDude

I learned it in a similar way in college up here too. I always suspected it watching Dodger/Giant TV games growing up in LA, but never understood it until I went away to school. Damn that cute girl I met up here who stole my heart and led me away from home.

The stealing water meme is also quite boring. They steal their water from Hetch Hetchy, which is right next to Yosemite, and was equally beautiful, before they flooded if for their own rapacious water needs. BTW, Mark McGwire was tagged as one of the biggest water wasters during one of the droughts when he played for Oakland.

DowningDude
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  MarineLayer

RE: Damn that cute girl I met up here who stole my heart and led me away from home.

I had one of those … but she broke my heart. Now I hate the Bay even more. 😛 But then I listen to Garth Brooks’ “Unanswered Prayers” and certainly it is clear now that I avoided a different life of misery.

MarineLayer
Trusted Member
29 days ago
Reply to  DowningDude

Crap, sorry to hear that.

MarineLayer
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1 month ago
Reply to  DowningDude

I’m guessing you went to Cal Poly?

DowningDude
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1 month ago
Reply to  MarineLayer

Yes. I am a SLO individual – best 6 years of my life.

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MarineLayer
Trusted Member
29 days ago
Reply to  DowningDude

Great school.

DowningDude
Super Member
29 days ago
Reply to  MarineLayer

Yeah pretty good. Great place to spend 6 years, too. 😍🎉

MarineLayer
Trusted Member
1 month ago
Reply to  MarineLayer

One last thing, it’s not as if I root for the Dodgers. They are my third least favorite team after SF And Oakland. Although I am envious over Oakland being so much smarter than Arte.

DaveChalk
Member
1 month ago
Reply to  MarineLayer

Watch one game with the dancing tree and the choice is pretty clear – USC and UCLA

DowningDude
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  DaveChalk

I hope nobody wants to “AXE” the dancing tree a question.

GrandpaBaseball
Super Member
29 days ago
Reply to  DowningDude

Funny Stuff.

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Super Member
Reply to  MarineLayer

No, I get it. Ever been in a Yankee bar after the Red Sox beat them? The tears… they are like Gatorade from God.

DowningDude
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

But being from middle and to the side a bit – where do you stand on the water issue? It is annoying when people like me get HOA notices telling me i must waste water to make my yard look like everyone else’s. When all I’m doing is trying not to steal too much of that NorCal water.

Designerguy
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  DowningDude

A few years back during the last drought period, our HOA posted notices to all homeowners that we must keep the lawns green or risk fines.

At the next HOA board meeting, we protested and said the directive violated state law.

One of the idiots on the board said “his” HOA had more legal standing than the state of California.

Three of the people at the meeting were lawyers, and they had a field day with that jackass regarding the legal process.

The board member was hoping the Earth would open and swallow him whole.

red floyd
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Designerguy

Every HOA has its share of assholes.

Designerguy
Super Member
29 days ago
Reply to  red floyd

I believe HOA is the abbreviation for House of Assholes.

red floyd
Super Member
29 days ago
Reply to  Designerguy

To be fair, I was on my condo HOA board for one year (One year only, Vashily, pleashe).

I took the job of rewriting the pool rules, because I was sick of people using the jacuzzi as a wading pool for their kids. What happens when you put your little kid in 100+ degree water? You’re in (Urine) trouble. Also, people were letting kids play in it and not paying attention. My four year old daughter had to get Mrs. red to rescue a kid from the jacuzzi.

So I was “That Guy” when it came to writing the pool rules and enforcing them. Other than that, I didn’t give a shit what people did.

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steelgolf
Super Member
29 days ago
Reply to  red floyd

And this is why I live in a home without an HOA. Been there, done that, and had to call some people some bad names and get angry.

Angels2020Champs
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

Angels, Kings (hockey), 49ers & Chargers for my main sports.

Long story growing up in Dodger 805 country but had much better experiences at Angel stadium to say the least. I live in Orange County now but remember staying up late to watch them play (never switching to ducks). Grew up 9ers fan and only added Chargers since working with/for them through the years.

TL:DR… always fun discussing sports teams and why you like them.
Ex. wore Padres gear when I went down there to see them play Giants and not all Giants fans like 49ers or Sharks for whatever reasons obviously. The beat LA chant got old in the 80s with Bahstun vs Lakers

MarineLayer
Trusted Member
29 days ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

What happened?

YOUknowulovetheIE
Trusted Member
1 month ago
Reply to  MarineLayer

I can’t wait to get out of this state for good.

Jim Atkins
Trusted Member
1 month ago

Got a feeling that Seattle is going to rise up to the top of the division. Houston is getting older, Oakland is going to lose quite a few players by not wanting to pay in arbitration, and Texas will be just starting to dig out of their teardown hole. Angels? Who freaking knows? Pitching, pitching and shortstop top the list, but we need to beef up the bench some, and the bullpen is a steaming heap aside from D-Cell.

nishiogawakun
Trusted Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Jim Atkins

Kinda wondering the same. I get there are a lot of folks here that just enjoy watching Angels baseball win or lose, and I admire that actually. I fall more in the camp of, if we’re not winning I need it to at least be competitive to hold my deep interest throughout a long season. Otherwise I’ll just stick to following the news. That being said, I don’t think anybody LIKES losing, and losing to Jerry here would be icing on the cake of Arte karma that I’m personally tired of experiencing.

Fleckstein
Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

Yeah, the article was dated June! Why haven’t other publications with national reach followed up?

Fleckstein
Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Fleckstein

Whoops, wrong spot

GrandpaBaseball
Super Member
29 days ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

SMFH, you mean we missed our chance in keep Jedi by keeping Sosh. lol

Fleckstein
Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Jim Atkins

I’m worried we will get an expensive SS instead of pitching. I’m even more concerned that SS will not live up to expectations and end up getting hurt. Damn Indian burial ground!

gitchogritchoffmypettis
Super Member
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

Barf.

GrandpaBaseball
Super Member
29 days ago
Reply to  Fleckstein

You’re right Siemen won’t want a bump.

toad2065
Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Jim Atkins

Seattle is definitely on the rise. But take a closer look at Houston. I am impressed with their ability to keep bringing up guys like Alvarez, Siri, Tucker, McCormick et al, not to mention their young pitching. And you know that Billy Beane will rebuild the A’s as he has so often in the past. Texas is the only AL West foe I am willing to discount for now. We have a tough road indeed.

BoyWithApple
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Trusted Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Jim Atkins

2023 is going to be a battle between the Mariners and Angels for the divisional pennant, even with the handicap of Moreno’s leadership.

red floyd
Super Member
29 days ago
Reply to  BoyWithApple

Without that handicap, there would be no contest?

BoyWithApple
Member
Trusted Member
29 days ago
Reply to  red floyd

That is correct.

BoyWithApple
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Trusted Member
29 days ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

The only worry I have is for the Angel fans who think the Halos are going to be contenders in 2022.

BoyWithApple
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Trusted Member
29 days ago
Reply to  BoyWithApple

The excitement in the 2022 season will lie in the development of the club’s young players, Trout and Ohtani heroics, and (hopefully) an extended 60th anniversary celebration of one of my favorite Angel teams, the utterly amazing 1962 LA Angels.

BoyWithApple
Member
Trusted Member
29 days ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

“Jerry Dipoto vs. the Angels” is going to be one of the great story lines of the 2023 season.

Fansince1971
Super Member
1 month ago

The cheating article is incredible. Shane on MLB for knowing all this and doing exactly nothing about it from a player standpoint.

The 10 losses article is rough. Amazing how a 162 game season can boil down to 10 games.

Fleckstein
Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

Yeah, the article was dated June! Why haven’t other publications with national reach followed up?

Fansince1971
Super Member
29 days ago
Reply to  Jeff Joiner

I totally agree. In fact I don’t understand it. In a social media world that is fascinated by scandal, I am surprised this has so little traction. Maybe MLB has something to do with that?

BoyWithApple
Member
Trusted Member
1 month ago

The Astros lose key pieces like Verlander, Gerrit Cole, and Springer and just keep on winning. Maybe next year will be different.

DowningDude
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  BoyWithApple

I think their era of dominance is coming to a close. I sure as hell HOPE SO. 😀

nishiogawakun
Trusted Member
1 month ago
Reply to  DowningDude

Me too. So tired of them.

Fleckstein
Member
1 month ago
Reply to  BoyWithApple

Not sure how much of a key piece Verlander was this year, but I get your point

DowningDude
Super Member
1 month ago
Reply to  Fleckstein

At least Verlander brings with him an Upton who can produce.

YOUknowulovetheIE
Trusted Member
1 month ago
Reply to  BoyWithApple

They’re still cheating, that’s why.

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