LA Angels Wednesday News Crash: Yarr

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21 minutes ago

Maybe we should give Carter Kieboom a chance at 3B. Through 14 games, he’s slashing .375/.407/.643 with four home runs and three stolen bases.

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Twebur

4 minutes ago

Reply to MarineLayer

Perry loves his recycled #1 draft picks…. How much longer is Paris’s leash? Lots of K’ing and not much hitting

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Turk's Teeth

28 seconds ago

Reply to MarineLayer

He seems to be a little banged up. He went 0-for-8 with three Ks in the last two games he played, and then he hasn’t been seen in action in a full week.

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Twebur

1 hour ago

Note to Washington…… Let a Bullpen arm start the 1st for JacKo?

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Anderson16

1 hour ago

I’m happy with LogO but would any of you rather have had max meyer p. from Miami in a trade?

What rumored angel trade do you wish would have happened might be a fun topic for travel mondays.

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gitchogritchoffmypettis

1 hour ago

Reply to Anderson16

Miami was gonna trade Meyer? I remember when he got hurt and was gonna be out for a while but I don’t recall the Marlins saying “screw this #1 pitching prospect let’s trade him for an average player.”

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Anderson16

1 hour ago

Reply to gitchogritchoffmypettis

Yea allegedly the angels walked away from the table.

https://amp.miamiherald.com/sports/mlb/miami-marlins/article252345073.html

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Hatcher_Is_My_Homeboy

2 hours ago

Well we wanted Ward out of the leadoff spot… but we got Soler there instead? Wash is definitely a man of the people.

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Twebur

1 hour ago

Reply to Hatcher_Is_My_Homeboy

This collection of hitters is not very good…. None of which are a good candidate to bat leadoff.

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gitchogritchoffmypettis

1 hour ago

Reply to Hatcher_Is_My_Homeboy

You see my friend. We have to use data and optimize the hot stick…. or something.

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tanana40

2 hours ago

I assume this is tonight’s lineup and Soler is leading off?

https://www.mlb.com/gameday/pirates-vs-angels/2025/04/23/778202/preview

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Twebur

2 hours ago

Reply to tanana40

And I assume Paris will have 3 K’s.

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TrojanBoiler

2 hours ago

Reply to tanana40

This batting order is an absolute disaster. Can someone make sure Wash is ok?

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TrojanBoiler

2 hours ago

Reply to TrojanBoiler

Ice cold Ward moved to clean-up and somehow d’Arnaud is making his like 8th consecutive start in the 5 spot. WTF is he thinking?

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gitchogritchoffmypettis

1 hour ago

Reply to tanana40

I am enraged. This shit’s gonna cost us a shot at the Super Bowl.

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steelgolf

29 minutes ago

Reply to tanana40

Soler at lead off? 😲😲🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

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AngelsFanInHell

4 hours ago

As per the post game information yesterday:

“It was just the third time in his (Soriano) career that he’s allowed five or more runs in fewer than five innings.”

After last night, I have now been at two of them. Lucky me.

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red floyd

3 hours ago

Reply to AngelsFanInHell

The moral of the story: “AngelsFanInHell should avoid going to any games that Soriano pitches”

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JackFrost

5 hours ago

Old friend Andrew Heaney faces the Angels tonight. And he is actually having a pretty good season so far; 2.13 ERA, 0.91 WHIP. I predict that he shuts down our bats tonight and yes, the Pirates beat us again.

Not only that, I think they will pull out a close 5-4 win on Thursday and complete a sweep of the series. At that point we’ll again be saying “when do pitchers and catchers report for Spring Training?”

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WallyChuckChili

1 hour ago

Reply to JackFrost

Shut down our bats.

Doesn’t that imply that they were working?

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Jeff Joiner

5 hours ago

By coincidence, my 5 to 7 year old Angels squad is playing the 5 to 7 year old Pirates squad tonight.

So far we’ve beaten them twice and I do expect another W tonight. Most of that team should be in Tee Ball, though, and the parents are cool.

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red floyd

6 hours ago

Well, I guess the part from the first four series is over.

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red floyd

3 hours ago

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s/part/party/g

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Eric_in_Portland

6 hours ago

I just read that Nico I-am-a-leaving’s brother Madden is also a-leaving, telling Arkansas he’s going into the transfer portal after cashing his NIL check and having never played a game for the Hogs or whatever they’re called.

What a family!

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Angels2020Champs

6 hours ago

Reply to Eric_in_Portland

I remember writing an essay in college on how absurd it was that Jeremy Bloom couldn’t receive money to help his Olympic ski career because he played college football at Colorado (how has he NOT had his jersey retired yet?!). Odd considering MiLB players get paid and can play college ball plus all the other nonsense through the years. Anyway, I don’t necessarily like the college football landscape as mush as I did a yout, but at the same time I’m ok with these kids getting paid.

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Jeff Joiner

6 hours ago

Reply to Angels2020Champs

I’ve long been on the “pay the kids” wagon as the money in college football is just insane.

The issue is that being a college player is a better deal than being a pro. It is unlimited free agency every single year.

Ideally the revenue creating sports would give stipends to players. But then you’d run into Title IX issues because outside of a handful of women’s basketball programs all the revenue creators are men.

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Angels2020Champs

5 hours ago

Reply to Jeff Joiner

Agreed. Nico got more money from Tennessee than Brock Purdy’s NFL contract has paid thus far and he’s been to two conference championship and a Super Bowl in 4 years 🤷🏼‍♂️

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TrojanBoiler

7 hours ago

That article on ZJ was fun. His stuff definitely passes the eye test. Still pleasantly surprised with what Perry was able to get at the trade deadline last year.

That’s why we need to trade for MOAR YUTES later this summer.

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gitchogritchoffmypettis

7 hours ago

Reply to TrojanBoiler

YUETS & KIDZ…. our firm

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Jeff Joiner

6 hours ago

Reply to TrojanBoiler

Great piece. FanGraphs writers are consistently great.

Perry has really nailed the trades when he’s been allowed to target talent rather than just dump salary. Hopefully he is allowed to do that again this deadline.

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Turk's Teeth

5 hours ago

Reply to Jeff Joiner

I actually think Minasian’s trade history has been very meh until Estevez/Garcia.

Hell, just look at the Braves trades alone, and it’s years of empty gestures.

https://housethathankbuilt.com/here-is-every-trade-braves-have-made-with-angels-since-perry-minasian-left

But July 30, 2024 was a good day, yes.

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TrojanBoiler

5 hours ago

Reply to Turk's Teeth

These are all bottom-of-the-barrel trades though. Almost every single one was for cash or as a salary dump.

Last year was probably the first time we really saw him operate and truly sell some assets, other than when he acquired O’Hoppe and Moniak

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Turk's Teeth

4 hours ago

Reply to TrojanBoiler

But that’s kind of the point – he doesn’t make impact trades unless his hand is forced. In the case of Estevez and Garcia, they were on quickly expiring contracts. What he got in return surprised everyone, because his trading history alternated between meh and terrible before that.

If a GM only makes impact trades every 3-5 years, is that evidence of an executive who is an ace trader, or an executive who is deeply reluctant to trade unless it’s to shed salary? In Minasian’s case we have tens of non-impact trades, many with the Braves, a disastrous prospect and salary dump in Ohtani’s last year, and a recent flip of two relievers for some solid pitching prospects.

In the past decade, we actually saw more substantial and more frequent trades – like Simmons for Aybar/Newcomb, Kendrick-for-Heaney, Trumbo-for-Skaggs/Santiago. July 2024 is unusual in that it’s the exception to the rule under Minasian.

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TrojanBoiler

3 hours ago

Reply to Turk's Teeth

I mean he has only been the GM for 4 full seasons. And in that time he made 1 impact trade for O’Hoppe in 2022 and the two from last year that look good so far. It’s more frequent than every 3-5 years.

2023 was gross for sure, but I can’t help but think some of that was Arte’s influence and the desperate need to try to seduce Ohtani.

This summer should be telling. If he has a fire sale again this year, especially if we are near .500, I’ll find it encouraging.

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WallyChuckChili

1 hour ago

Reply to Turk's Teeth

It’s also helpful to have the players on expiring contracts Healthy and playing well at the trade deadline. As we all know, Perry hasn’t had that luxury in abundance.

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gitchogritchoffmypettis

7 hours ago

Full on bored day balls out what if….

The Cubs have a legit shot at a WS. They need to really enthrall Tucker and sign him. They are in full on go for it mode. Their pen is meh and they lost Steele in their rotation.

What if Perry went at them early and offered Jansen and Tyler Anderson for something like Kevin Alcantera, Christian Hernandez and Ben Cowels? Or even tried to get Brandon Birdsell with Alcantera?

It would surely dampen our 2025 early…. but it may get us some pretty solid return for what we all thought of as a meh burger on March 15th AND it could screw the Doyers too.

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Eric_in_Portland

7 hours ago

Reply to gitchogritchoffmypettis

The sooner we trade the easier it’ll be to blame the trades for our decline

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gitchogritchoffmypettis

7 hours ago

Reply to Eric_in_Portland

My plan issszzz comb pleeeeet.

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PedroCerrano

4 hours ago

Reply to gitchogritchoffmypettis

MLB channel was saying that the same guys who accurate estimated Vlad’s contract are saying 12 years and mid $500’s for Tucker. Seems crazy to me but teams keep doing it.

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Eric_in_Portland

3 hours ago

Reply to gitchogritchoffmypettis

by the way, I saw you don’t like Arquette at #2. Any reason, other than you think he’s more like a #10 to 15?

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gitchogritchoffmypettis

3 hours ago

Reply to Eric_in_Portland

Yeah. I just don’t like him at #2. I think he’s gonna strike out a lot and won’t stay at SS… which is fine for a later pick. But if we passed on Hernandez or arnold for him…. gross.

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Eric_in_Portland

1 hour ago

Reply to gitchogritchoffmypettis

I think with a #2 pick, which won’t come around often…and we don’t want it to, we don’t want to go under slot. We have to take either the best hitter available or the best pitcher available. Who that might be, I couldn’t tell you. I see Laviolette has picked it up. I have no idea what Holliday is doing.

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gitchogritchoffmypettis

1 hour ago

Reply to Eric_in_Portland

Yeah. I say dream big. Shoot for the stars. Be the best you. Shit from cheap wooden signs that yuppy wives buy and put up everywhere…..

BPA all the way.

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Jeff Joiner

7 hours ago

George Klassen is looking really good early. K’s are still high but the walks are down from last year.

https://twitter.com/MLBPipeline/status/1914862320183845351

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Jeff Joiner

7 hours ago

Caden Dana threw a gem last night:

https://twitter.com/SaltLakeBees/status/1914729688578306089

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FungoAle

7 hours ago

Reply to Jeff Joiner

Happy for Klassen, my favorite of the two. Angels would be wise to give these arms plenty of action in the minors before promoting them. Especially Dana, he has yet to show he knows how to get big leagues out. Teams are hitting a robust .300 off of him. It’s not like he has lights out stuff.

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gitchogritchoffmypettis

7 hours ago

Reply to FungoAle

Yah. Not to be a fatalist, but when REALITY has really sunk in with the 2025 Angels I am hoping to have Dana/Aldegeri/Klassen etc to look forward to watching in August.

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Roy Hobbs

6 hours ago

Reply to gitchogritchoffmypettis

I’m fine if we have those 3 plus Detmers all competing for spots next year. It’s way early and there are already things making the future look hopeful.

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Jeff Joiner

5 hours ago

Reply to Roy Hobbs

And there’s a chance to add Jaime Arnold in the draft to have yet another stud coming up behind them.

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Jeff Joiner

6 hours ago

Reply to gitchogritchoffmypettis

Same here. My hopiest of hopium scenarios is that Dana is pitching so well we are excited to trade Tyler Anderson and promote Caden.

I’d also like Detmers to earn Hendricks rotation spot by the end of the year.

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grichmanpoorman

6 hours ago

Reply to FungoAle

Re: Dana. That’s circular logic, broham. There’s no way for Dana to “show he knows how to get big leagues out” until you give him big league innings. And he seemingly has little left to prove in AAA. Teams are batting .207 off him.

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Turk's Teeth

5 hours ago

Reply to grichmanpoorman

Well…he’s pitched 16 innings total in AAA, at a time when pitchers are a little ahead of hitters.

I’d still give him 60+ IP in AAA before making too many categorical statements, given an otherwise tough spring and first cup of coffee for a guy in his age 21 season.

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grichmanpoorman

5 hours ago

Reply to Turk's Teeth

True enough… but the season thus far could hardly be going better for him.

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Turk's Teeth

5 hours ago

Reply to FungoAle

Aldegheri has also been pitching better than his ERA suggests.

He was carrying a one-run ballgame into the sixth over the weekend, and things unraveled with some uneven defense and a patchy strikezone, and the bullpen didn’t help matters when he left. Half of the runs he’s given up in the first three games came in that one inning – he went from a sub-2 ERA to a 5 ERA in five min flat.

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toad2065

7 hours ago

Reply to Jeff Joiner

Really important to stay the course with these young pitchers. Give them the time and the rope to fully develop, lest we end up with more demoralized young guys like Detmers, etc.

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Turk's Teeth

6 hours ago

Reply to Jeff Joiner

That video clip is actually from Thursday last week. Caden pitches later tonight for the Bees.

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Jeff Joiner

6 hours ago

Reply to Turk's Teeth

Dang it. The kid is on fire early this season.

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gitchogritchoffmypettis

7 hours ago

I love the Sneks and their twenty different hats and uniforms. Swimming pool in the stadium. Cougars. Great fun to watch roster. Most of their uniforms look stupid to me but at least they try stuff out. Those Serpentes unis from a while ago are great. But they just don’t understand how rad it is having the same boring ass uniforms for 25 years.

In Portland. That spot they are talking about? Is it by the Life Sciences building, by the Ross Bridge? or on the other side of the bridge by the train thing? Or they will tear down shit like that TRD motors place or something? None of it really looks big enough for a stadium to me? Does it matter? If they declare they will tax jocks then those fkin hippies will demand the money go to fund statues of gay dolphins or something…. likely not realizing that they jocks actually have to play there to get taxed.

I think it would be great for Portland to get a team. I just don’t think the population of the place will ever really go for it.

I’m bored. I wish Arte would sell the team today. That would be fun. Might get new uniforms.

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Angelz4ever

7 hours ago

Reply to gitchogritchoffmypettis

The Snakes dark grey unis are the bomb.com. I watched their first game with them and the Dodgers announcers were just so obsessed all d@mn game with how ugly they thought they were.

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gitchogritchoffmypettis

7 hours ago

Reply to Angelz4ever

Yep. The gray ones aren’t bad. None of them are BAD… they just have a team brand that’s a little out there.

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Angelz4ever

7 hours ago

Reply to gitchogritchoffmypettis

I disagree with Portland as a baseball city-After they lost a home game, all the millennials would hang at the park after the game saying, “No, we didn’t lose, explain this to me!”

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Eric_in_Portland

7 hours ago

Reply to Angelz4ever

I know of only one group of people who are still whining that they didn’t lose, and this is from a contest years ago, and those people aren’t millennials

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Eric_in_Portland

7 hours ago

Reply to gitchogritchoffmypettis

The proposed Portland site is near the Ross Island Bridge but before that it was a few miles north and before that it was the Lloyd Center mall and before that it was slightly out of town where there’s a golf course. That these people have actually bought a piece of property is a big “so what?”

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PedroCerrano

4 hours ago

Reply to Eric_in_Portland

In other Portland news, the f***ing hippy group with the gay dolphin show is gaining traction. I spent last weekend moving my daughter into an apartment in the Pearl District. Nice building, good restaurants with lots of unhinged people.

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gitchogritchoffmypettis

3 hours ago

Reply to PedroCerrano

I’m from Santa Barbara area…. no one’s dolphins will ever outgay our dolphins. But Portland will try.

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Eric_in_Portland

8 hours ago

Enthusiasm is low in Portland because there’s no visible big money backer. Some fairly anonymous people have purchased a lot and hired an architectural firm to come up with drawings.

It’s not taken too seriously by the general public

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Kevin

7 hours ago

Reply to Eric_in_Portland

They’ll need a retractable roof also.

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Turk's Teeth

5 hours ago

Reply to Kevin

The proposal and renderings all include a retractable roof, yes.

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Turk's Teeth

5 hours ago

Reply to Eric_in_Portland

But is the “not taken seriously” largely due to years of failed or (very) hypothetical efforts? The fact that the mayor, governor and all major state-level electeds are behind the project feels like more momentum than I’ve personally seen in Portland in a couple decades. You rarely see bipartisan support for a stadium project, let alone 800M in bonds authorized through the legislature in a matter of weeks.

That’s quite a departure from previous proposals, where there was no obvious funding mechanism, and the proposed sites didn’t even have a settled ownership group.

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Eric_in_Portland

3 hours ago

Reply to Turk's Teeth

yes to the years of hypothetical efforts but with no owner in sight, no guiding hand, it feels like this effort is also not much of anything. There’s no real vision other than let’s build a stadium. And then what?

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